I live in the uk and was diagnosed with psychosis about 4 years ago which was when i was sectioned after a mental breakdown whilst in extended police custody after a case of mistaken identity. I spent about 8 months in hospital where i was given medication such as a clopixol depot of 1000mg every 4 weeks as well as various benzos, zopiclone as well as sodium valporate throughout my stay. I was about 63kg at the time of my section and now its been about 18 months since being completely off any medication, but prior to weaning off and stopping, it left me at about 40kg heavier with a complete apathy to life, as well as diminished cognitive ability, and some parkinson adjacent side effects. I honestly dont know what to do and I feel betrayed as even when I raised these issues in the early stages, i was dismissed as being "paranoid". I just wish medication just was not the first port off call and advertised as a quick fix for these kind of issues.
My psychotherapist said that I most likely have paranoid schizophrenia because I have voices (I don't hear them, but we communicate) and paranoia. She insisted that I start taking medication, saying that without it, the symptoms would only worsen. When I argued that the diagnosis has not yet been confirmed by a psychiatrist, and that the medication has side effects, she replied that this is all untrue (and i'm just being paranoid) and that everything would be fine with me. She also mentioned that "when a person has a heart problem, they take medication, and since schizophrenia is an illness, the mechanism should be the same." I left my psychotherapist, started engaging in moderate exercise, changed my diet to be as healthy as possible, and I feel very well.However, my acquaintance with the same diagnosis, while undergoing treatment, now almost has a disability status - due to the schizophrenia medication, she has gained a lot of weight, has diabetes, hormonal imbalances, disrupted metabolism, hasn't had her period for 2 years, and has other issues. The most terrible thing is that her schizophrenia symptoms have worsened!Thanks to your channel, I made the right choice. Thank you so much for your work!
The weight gain is metabolic syndrome which comes from the brain damage. This, the turning of the bowels, and the hyperprolactenemia cause so many issues. All go back to the brain damage. These drugs even cause autoimmune disease and cancer from damaging the gut. These drugs make you chronically.
I have done partial hospitalization 6 times and one of the things they mention in it, really push home, is that psychotropic meds only work about 30% of the time.
When I was younger, I happened to read a paper that came with my antidepressant, and I was shocked to find out that according to that paper included with the anti-depressant, that it only helps about 20% better than placebo. (I don't remember the exact percentage as it was a long time ago.) I realized even back then that things weren't adding up, but It still took me quite a while to figure everything out and to figure out a way to make do without the anti-depressants.
I take the very minimum of Rexalti (0.25 mg). I also take other meds. Unfortunately without them I am very anxious and they work very well. I am a little paranoid without the Rexalti. I used to be anti psychotropic medication until I saw how much they helped me. Fortunately, other than some somnelescence I am good.
I'm 70 and have been off these drugs for 4 years. I use Kratom for pain and excellent mood boost. I urge folks to engage life, go to school, keep busy and know that it gets better. Trust me.
How do you balance being a psych nurse with knowing you're distributing medication you don't like? Asking because I agree with you, and had the opportunity for leave to become a psych LVN at a hospital I was an aide at. I was passionate about the people I cared for but couldn't stand to see how many of them were doped up for what seemed like arbitrary reasons. But hey, I'm not the psychiatrist! Lol. Thank you for the video. :) Your son is adorable btw
thanks for the comment and compliment :). I have another video addressing this question (can't remember which one lol!), but the TLDR is: if I'm not the one administering the med, probably someone else w/ less compassion will be. Not the best justification, but better than nothing. . .=/ I also try and discuss side effects and make sure they know to taper off once they leave the hospital. Who knows if it makes a difference but at least I tried!
I am not a schizohrenic. I know if I hadn't abused antipsychotics and alcohol. I probably would be into every single street drug today. I had Hellish withdrawls, but it saved me in a way. I love them and hate it in a way.
A lot of 'antipsychiatry' people are just traumatized. I am too. I was 14 years old and just had anxiety, then I received Abilify almost immediately along with a SSRI from a psychiatrist who hated me (it was obvious (she faked tests, lied, intimidated me, said that I had low intelligence and severe autism while I was in a gifted class before and she wanted to put me in special education as fast as possible, said that I didn't have empathy while knowing from interaction that the opposite was true and hearing things from my parents that indicated a lot of empathy, being angry with me when I told something I did (after she asked) that I could only do when I had empathy, she knew I was very sensitive and that I could easily feel when somebody didn't like me (she basically wrote that in the documentation) and used that against me (after a while I dissociated in her office because of sheer panic and she used that moment to take an 'emotions' test so I would fail because I couldn't answer), she was very angry when I couldn't go to school (even just for one day) while on the antipsychotic, said that I had severe pedagogical issues and that my parents had to be harder while I never did something wrong and at the same time asking for a softer management of aggressive and criminal youth in the media, she gave me a piece of paper with a test that I had to fill in with in the title the age range 6-12 years old which I didn't understand and which made me hesitant (abnormal!), she talked about me as if I was 3 years old and asked things you would ask a 3 year old, etc) for a lot of reasons, my problem is not that every psychiatrist is evil, they are not, but that people don't believe that someone that is a doctor can do bad things on purpose). Suddenly I wanted to die, I was hopeless every day, all day. I was anhedonic, had no motivation and couldn't concentrate. I developed akathisia and severe depression. I had parkinsonism and was very tired. I had cognitive problems (today I often think I cannot do something because of this). I had tardive oculogyric crises (chronic and severe, several times a week for more than 6 hours with paranoia, extreme tiredness and no concentration at all (even worse than normal), obsessive thoughts, etc and I had to do homework while having these + the doctor told me it was psychosomatic when my mom told this doctor (psychiatrist) about these episodes, I never had one again after a week (when I had one last episode) after stopping Abilify) , hypoglycemic episodes (those didn't go away) and insulin resistance + higher cholesterol with (too) low body weight, severe gastrointestinal problems, etc. Nobody told me that I even could get any side effects, let alone wanting to stop living. I was not told that Abilify was an antipsychotic. I thought it was me, these side effects, and everybody said it was me. I never knew, till the moment I was put off Abilify and onto other meds (also bad but a lot lighter for me, a while later I stopped everything but antidepressants (and I felt even better), which I'm now withdrawing from because they never helped me either and made me tired and anxious; I now feel better than in a long time (since 14, I'm 23 now)) for reasons unrelated to side effects. It's sad I had to suffer for a long time just because I didn't know. I would have stopped immediately. At the time I had to go in resedential treatment (because of the severe neuroleptic induced depression, that they saw as just severe depression) and afterwards a 1 day a week treatment program at the same place where they too thought (eventually) that I maybe had autism (which made the first psychiatrist not abusive, she was right!, I was gaslighted), because of the parkinsonism induced by the pills they gave me (mask like face, bradyphrenia, being slow, etc). They also blamed me for not having enough motivation and not taking responsibility to get better. They wanted to send a crisis team to my home because they thought I might be agressive, while I never once was (even a bit) in my whole life, just because I sometimes yelled that I was too tired and depressed when my parents yelled I had to go to school and were pulling me out of my bed. At the end they gave me Wellbutrin and I was slightly better as a consequence. Now it was the medication that made me (a little bit) better, while Wellbutrin just seemed to counteract Abilify a little bit (dopamine level increased). Medication harmed me, I was tortured, it didn't help me, but that was the story now. The irony. I took antipsychotic medications for 3.5 years. I only live because I was scared to die. I feel a lot better now, I can't fanthom feeling that hopeless, wanting to escape, so desperate, all the time, at all anymore. I have medical problems, but I can enjoy reading a book, writing, studying, exercising, being with my partner, etc. I will not say that antipsychotics can help nobody in no situation at all, but I don't want to be a person who just says that it was not okay to give it to me, off-label argumenting, but for somebody with psychosis it's totally fine. I know that a lot of people with psychosis endured the same horror I did. But if somebody has truly informed (!) consented with taking an antipsychotic, who am I to say they can't. But it is dangerous, it's not just any medication. I have to hear a lot that it was okay I had to suffer because some people are helped by it. That every medication has side effects. But this was true torture for me. That's not the same as just some constipation. These same people that say it was okay, that I was treated correctly, think and claim that alcohol and illegal drugs are something totally different. That's my problem. You have to see antipsychotics for what they are and you have to be very cautious, in the same way that you won't give everyone illegal drugs without looking for danger signs just because someone can be helped by it. First do no harm.
thank you so much for sharing your story, I am 20 years old and a student nurse hoping to go into psychiatric nursing and I definitely agree with you that some mental health staff do more harm than good. There have been instances where I was on training placements and have seen medications given to patients against their wishes but when I question it I always get the same "You are just a student you do not understand enough to critique us". Instances of mental health staff shouting at patients for no reason and treating them as if they have done something wrong and getting yelled at myself when I question anything. There is a hierarchy culture is the only way I can describe it where if you are at the top and are seen as important in psychiatry nobody can question it and this causes lots of malpractice to go ignored. It is an awful culture in the psychiatric healthcare sector unfortunately but I aim to do everything I can to change it. My father was abusive and my mum had to be sectioned when I was a baby because of what he did to her mentally. Up until 15 years old he was very abusive to us and I had some mental health troubles and got expelled from secondary school because nobody understood my cries for help, it was seen as intentional misbehaving. Always remember that what happened to you is not at all your fault, but these experiences will give you strength and could possibly be used to change the psychiatric sector for the better. Have you considered a career in psychiatry?
@@NurseEvie force feeding brain damaging substances. that is your job now. you people destroyed my life, castrated me. i pray to god, i can't tell here, they would ban my account.
My doctor said some people need to smoke and I was one of them😂 also don't ever put nobody on lithium the regular side effects aren't that bad but it's those rare side effects can cripple you up for years I've been off all those meds for 10 years or more and I'm doing better than I've ever done my doctors made me feel like a human Pez dispenser I'll tell you what they can do they can cause you to have hyperthyroidism and Hashimoto's in legal blindness and a four arrhythmia rare heart condition😢 The only reason I went is because I couldn't quit crying after my divorce and then turned around and ended up in the system for 25 years it stole my life
yeah it's rather quite common =/. I guess if someone needed to sleep THAT badly, if I were a prescriber, I might consider it. . .but I feel like it would be for very specific circumstances.
One antipsychotic side effect is the heart organ and breast area feels cold and hypothermia in a normal climate temperature, and people sit in front of the heater everyday for a year just to reverse that cold feeling
Is there any way to inquire directly with you about something? Just so difficult for me to find reliable resources but your outlook feels a bit more genuine than most by far
Im on 20 mgs of zyprexa and i gained 50 pounds in 1 yr. I worked with my dr to get on a really low dose and i was on a really small amount and i felt fine so i decided to stop it on my own. Biggest mistake of my life. I eventually ended up in the hospital. Now im back on 20mgs of it. Im trying to switch to abilify. I heard that abilify has less side effects.
I appreciate your video's. My daughter had psychosis in 2022 and we are now in the process to reduce the anti psychotic. I wish I can just tell her to stop the meds. We are now on 100mg Amulsipelride. I hope that you will give your opinion and experience. It is a very complicated issue.
Be careful take somme time off and away from everything to get back to yourself, tapering off is your best strategie still. Slowly lowering the dosage. I am personally on Multimeditation treatment tapering off meds over a longer period of time. If things don't work out well go back to a certain working dose slowly lowering it over a period of time...
What you said at 17 minutes and 13 seconds goes for benzodiazepines nowadays the whole Holocaust against them is just ridiculous because there are people that do need them and some long-term
So my aunts ex husband used to play the tackle monster "gmae" with us I realised is abuse but I get gas lit by everyone except my writing group they all say he was just trying to bond but I think since he would go way past the point where is was so be I'd urinate and could not hardly breath . Is this abuse be cause it made it harder for me to set firm bounderis
My brother got an ativan prescription that he really didn't need. The psychologist could have told him to exercise, eat right, join a club, cultivate hobbies, slow acclimatization to work. Nah. That's work. Give him ativan, that's easy, plus the psych gets a commission. My brother is burnt out now. He'll never get off it. Never Ever. Imagine that
Mentioned I was occasionaly anxious . Immediately she prescribed an antipsychotic ! Im bioolar two on 400g lithium . I just lost 8 kilos which surprised her . Im totally together . Fully functioning . It seems she wants to sabotage all my hard work . I laughed when I read the side effects . Crazy to give such a dangerous drug to a relatively well person . One has to double check every thing with doctors . Had she given me xanax it would be more appropriate . She wants me to return in two months to tell her how I am . Really ! What does she want to check . See how fat, twitchy , zombie and constipated Ive become .
I’d still like to know what I should take instead of antipsychotics? I haven’t had side affects yet, but if it’s as bad as you say I don’t want to take them.
It's always a cost benefit analysis my friend. I think anyone who takes these medications has to experience at least one side effect. It's pretty much impossible not to feel at least a dated by taking them. But! If you feel like it's having a positive impact on your psychosis then perhaps it's worth it. :)
First, do no harm. I really want to watch the video of you taking 5 mg of olanzapine but that's a special kind of destructive essay. Yesterday I bought 28 5 mg ones, they're a last resource
I work with mentally challenged and uneven individuals. My guess: Antipsychotics may be temporarily necessary, based on our limited knowledge of healing. Antipsychotics are not an advancement, but they are a stop-gap until society has healing as its goal. And as an aside - human structures struggle with the fact that they applies "degree of guilt" to certain individual groups, and not to others. Once healing becomes the goal for all of us, then the use of drugs can fade - maybe - long after I'm on the flipside.
Nicotine is a stimulant. As someone with ADHD (Dx at 5). When I became an adult I smoked for many years and it helped so much and I did not need to be prescribed a med or get a controlled substance. 1 cigarette an hour and I could focus and concentrate so well. Then I quit smoking. I ended up on Ritalin again to try and help and that does not work as well as cigarettes did.
My Great Grandfather was an Old Money Doctor from New England. The Hospitals have taken my best friend, and my Mother WHO THEY WERE from me! Neuroleptic drugs make patients like Micheal J Foxx, did Doctors make Micheal J Foxx like he is too ALL BECAUSE IN REAL LIFE HE WASNT AS PERFECT AS THE CHARECTERS HE PLAYED IN THE MOVIES HE ACTED IN?
Word you were seeking is ANALEPTICS Opiates have Antipsychotic properties, they work incredibly well! In fact they work with 100% efficacy & they work immediately especially for psychotic symptoms. Opiates also arrest Severe Manic states, paranoid schizophrenia and “melancholia”so I disagree that all Antipsychotics are bad
Zyprexa ain't that worse especially not if taken once if you want bad effects take it for a longer period. Try haloperidol in high dosage than you know how hell feels on the inside. Just lowering your dopamine reward system level without anything to cover side effects. The way zyprexa effects you it is covering its own side effects by the way it clings on to the receptors it masks its own side effects try getting of off it after long term use that is worse. Also long time usage effects are quite nasty. 5 mg is for wussy's try 20 in one go....
Hi Psych nurse I do a podcast about relationships but doing a month where I review movies I love to watch. I like your episodes. I watched coo coos nest movie and I worked at a hospital where they had a psych department. Could I have you on my show as a special guest and review the movie?
Instead of so-called "antipsychotics", maybe psychiatrists should prescribe a course of Minocin, which actually WORKS to kill off psychosis. But then again, administering that particular antibiotic would also serve to kill off the psychiatrists' job security
This is the perfect example of someone "highly educated" equals highly indoctrinated nowadays, who is talking from a professional perspective, no common sense. He truly thinks smoking is good for someone and bad for others, that is just so out of touch with reality. Cigarettes er poison, period. You should listen to the real people who suffers from the very bad effects of this DRUGS!
I understand this position, at the same time I'd appreciate it if you addressed the analogy I brought up in the video, as I think all drugs have pros and cons--e.g. if smoking takes 5 years off my life but it reduces my anxiety and makes me feel better, that might be worth it to me, right? What are your thoughts?
@@A_Psych_NurseIt’s not worth it because there’s healthier ways to decrease anxiety. With mental conditions, it is a little bit different since some can’t function without it
Antidepressants are so 10 years ago. Yawn. Now adjunctive MDD uses of antipsychotics are all the rage. Just read the annual report of Intracellular Therapies about their ambitions to get Caplyta approved for the huge addressable 20 million patient MDD market.
CBD has been proven to be an effective antipsychotic without all the horrible side effects, rather being kinda healthy. There are better alternatives than psychiatric medication peddled by people without a soul or conscience... Also, if you are experiencing psychosis consider changing your environment, like switching jobs or education. Also running or walking has a tremendous ability to heal you. Furthermore you should really consider going to a church or something similar for a supportive community
I use both. Antipsychotics with CBD get a super boost. Some times it gets really tough but there is no other way for some of us. I have tried a lot of stuff and it is good that I have because all these exercises, cold showers,...offset the effects of the pills. What is important is the mindset. If you believe in them and fight the good fight with the help of them you can win a lot of battles and they become just a necessary evil but if you just wallow there in misery then antipsychotics can be the end of you.
Talking about it and using phrases like 'using antipsychotics' 'antipsychotics' is just silly, you can not talk like this, also saying street drugs have benefits in my opinion is utter rubbish. Please when you go public think twice before you do something or say something. Generalisations like this lead to confusion, just read 'Medication madness' by Peter Breggin, also educate yourself on the work of A Hoffer. Mrn scans also should be done and often diagnosis is made based on riddiculos tests and some people may actually have a brain tumor. I am curious what benefits u would find if they wanted to give these poisons to e.g. zyprexa to your son on a daily bases if he became bipolar or psychotic at age 13. You asked so I have answered.
you mention a lot here Izabela. All the street drugs I'm aware of have 'some' form of medicinal purpose or are prescribed medicinally (even drugs like meth & heroin have medicinal uses, same w/ cocaine, LSD, etc.). Big fan of Breggin and Moncrief :). Moncrief, imho, seems a little more realistic on her view of medication, as Breggin is categorically against antipsychotics in seemingly all circumstances. I'm curious about Hoffer as I've never read his work.
Hoffer’s “Orthomolecular treatments” were proven ineffective. In fact he was severely criticized for that treatment protocol. Linus Pauling (here at OSU) his use of Vitamin C with Rose Hips was involved in Hoffer’s protocol. It didn’t work.
Abe Hoffer’s Orthomolecular treatments for Schizophrenia was no more effective than say hot baths, or Forest Bathing…it certainly didn’t cure schizophrenia.. Hoffer’s medical reputation in Canada & in Medicine was nearly destroyed by this idea. Linus Pauling inspired the protocol since Linus won a Nobel prize for his study with vitamin C using grams of it for all sorts of issues.
@BushyHairedStranger proven by whom? Big pharma? Patiens had a different view. However, surely schizophrenia is just a label and fake construct, there are many reasons one can get psychotic e.g., from the very drugs supposed to treat schizophrenia despite the fact the chemical imbalance in the brain is a big pile of bs, and their only function to restrain and cause array of side effects and with time atrophy of the brain!
I live in the uk and was diagnosed with psychosis about 4 years ago which was when i was sectioned after a mental breakdown whilst in extended police custody after a case of mistaken identity. I spent about 8 months in hospital where i was given medication such as a clopixol depot of 1000mg every 4 weeks as well as various benzos, zopiclone as well as sodium valporate throughout my stay. I was about 63kg at the time of my section and now its been about 18 months since being completely off any medication, but prior to weaning off and stopping, it left me at about 40kg heavier with a complete apathy to life, as well as diminished cognitive ability, and some parkinson adjacent side effects. I honestly dont know what to do and I feel betrayed as even when I raised these issues in the early stages, i was dismissed as being "paranoid". I just wish medication just was not the first port off call and advertised as a quick fix for these kind of issues.
I agree mate, short term use only
My psychotherapist said that I most likely have paranoid schizophrenia because I have voices (I don't hear them, but we communicate) and paranoia. She insisted that I start taking medication, saying that without it, the symptoms would only worsen. When I argued that the diagnosis has not yet been confirmed by a psychiatrist, and that the medication has side effects, she replied that this is all untrue (and i'm just being paranoid) and that everything would be fine with me. She also mentioned that "when a person has a heart problem, they take medication, and since schizophrenia is an illness, the mechanism should be the same."
I left my psychotherapist, started engaging in moderate exercise, changed my diet to be as healthy as possible, and I feel very well.However, my acquaintance with the same diagnosis, while undergoing treatment, now almost has a disability status - due to the schizophrenia medication, she has gained a lot of weight, has diabetes, hormonal imbalances, disrupted metabolism, hasn't had her period for 2 years, and has other issues. The most terrible thing is that her schizophrenia symptoms have worsened!Thanks to your channel, I made the right choice. Thank you so much for your work!
The weight gain is metabolic syndrome which comes from the brain damage. This, the turning of the bowels, and the hyperprolactenemia cause so many issues. All go back to the brain damage. These drugs even cause autoimmune disease and cancer from damaging the gut. These drugs make you chronically.
LOL the straight face you had when your son comes behind you interrupting the video that was gold😅😅😅
I had a therapist who told me to quit my meds. He got in trouble
You should quit them
I just love that a little jumped into the picture and you were able continue without effect. ❤
I have done partial hospitalization 6 times and one of the things they mention in it, really push home, is that psychotropic meds only work about 30% of the time.
When I was younger, I happened to read a paper that came with my antidepressant, and I was shocked to find out that according to that paper included with the anti-depressant, that it only helps about 20% better than placebo. (I don't remember the exact percentage as it was a long time ago.) I realized even back then that things weren't adding up, but It still took me quite a while to figure everything out and to figure out a way to make do without the anti-depressants.
They are evil.
I take the very minimum of Rexalti (0.25 mg). I also take other meds. Unfortunately without them I am very anxious and they work very well. I am a little paranoid without the Rexalti. I used to be anti psychotropic medication until I saw how much they helped me. Fortunately, other than some somnelescence I am good.
I'm 70 and have been off these drugs for 4 years. I use Kratom for pain and excellent mood boost. I urge folks to engage life, go to school, keep busy and know that it gets better. Trust me.
How do you balance being a psych nurse with knowing you're distributing medication you don't like? Asking because I agree with you, and had the opportunity for leave to become a psych LVN at a hospital I was an aide at. I was passionate about the people I cared for but couldn't stand to see how many of them were doped up for what seemed like arbitrary reasons. But hey, I'm not the psychiatrist! Lol. Thank you for the video. :) Your son is adorable btw
thanks for the comment and compliment :). I have another video addressing this question (can't remember which one lol!), but the TLDR is: if I'm not the one administering the med, probably someone else w/ less compassion will be. Not the best justification, but better than nothing. . .=/
I also try and discuss side effects and make sure they know to taper off once they leave the hospital. Who knows if it makes a difference but at least I tried!
I am not a schizohrenic. I know if I hadn't abused antipsychotics and alcohol. I probably would be into every single street drug today. I had Hellish withdrawls, but it saved me in a way. I love them and hate it in a way.
In UK we are forced to take meds all our lives. Their horrible
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A lot of 'antipsychiatry' people are just traumatized. I am too. I was 14 years old and just had anxiety, then I received Abilify almost immediately along with a SSRI from a psychiatrist who hated me (it was obvious (she faked tests, lied, intimidated me, said that I had low intelligence and severe autism while I was in a gifted class before and she wanted to put me in special education as fast as possible, said that I didn't have empathy while knowing from interaction that the opposite was true and hearing things from my parents that indicated a lot of empathy, being angry with me when I told something I did (after she asked) that I could only do when I had empathy, she knew I was very sensitive and that I could easily feel when somebody didn't like me (she basically wrote that in the documentation) and used that against me (after a while I dissociated in her office because of sheer panic and she used that moment to take an 'emotions' test so I would fail because I couldn't answer), she was very angry when I couldn't go to school (even just for one day) while on the antipsychotic, said that I had severe pedagogical issues and that my parents had to be harder while I never did something wrong and at the same time asking for a softer management of aggressive and criminal youth in the media, she gave me a piece of paper with a test that I had to fill in with in the title the age range 6-12 years old which I didn't understand and which made me hesitant (abnormal!), she talked about me as if I was 3 years old and asked things you would ask a 3 year old, etc) for a lot of reasons, my problem is not that every psychiatrist is evil, they are not, but that people don't believe that someone that is a doctor can do bad things on purpose).
Suddenly I wanted to die, I was hopeless every day, all day. I was anhedonic, had no motivation and couldn't concentrate. I developed akathisia and severe depression. I had parkinsonism and was very tired. I had cognitive problems (today I often think I cannot do something because of this). I had tardive oculogyric crises (chronic and severe, several times a week for more than 6 hours with paranoia, extreme tiredness and no concentration at all (even worse than normal), obsessive thoughts, etc and I had to do homework while having these + the doctor told me it was psychosomatic when my mom told this doctor (psychiatrist) about these episodes, I never had one again after a week (when I had one last episode) after stopping Abilify) , hypoglycemic episodes (those didn't go away) and insulin resistance + higher cholesterol with (too) low body weight, severe gastrointestinal problems, etc. Nobody told me that I even could get any side effects, let alone wanting to stop living. I was not told that Abilify was an antipsychotic. I thought it was me, these side effects, and everybody said it was me. I never knew, till the moment I was put off Abilify and onto other meds (also bad but a lot lighter for me, a while later I stopped everything but antidepressants (and I felt even better), which I'm now withdrawing from because they never helped me either and made me tired and anxious; I now feel better than in a long time (since 14, I'm 23 now)) for reasons unrelated to side effects. It's sad I had to suffer for a long time just because I didn't know. I would have stopped immediately.
At the time I had to go in resedential treatment (because of the severe neuroleptic induced depression, that they saw as just severe depression) and afterwards a 1 day a week treatment program at the same place where they too thought (eventually) that I maybe had autism (which made the first psychiatrist not abusive, she was right!, I was gaslighted), because of the parkinsonism induced by the pills they gave me (mask like face, bradyphrenia, being slow, etc). They also blamed me for not having enough motivation and not taking responsibility to get better. They wanted to send a crisis team to my home because they thought I might be agressive, while I never once was (even a bit) in my whole life, just because I sometimes yelled that I was too tired and depressed when my parents yelled I had to go to school and were pulling me out of my bed. At the end they gave me Wellbutrin and I was slightly better as a consequence. Now it was the medication that made me (a little bit) better, while Wellbutrin just seemed to counteract Abilify a little bit (dopamine level increased). Medication harmed me, I was tortured, it didn't help me, but that was the story now. The irony. I took antipsychotic medications for 3.5 years. I only live because I was scared to die. I feel a lot better now, I can't fanthom feeling that hopeless, wanting to escape, so desperate, all the time, at all anymore. I have medical problems, but I can enjoy reading a book, writing, studying, exercising, being with my partner, etc. I will not say that antipsychotics can help nobody in no situation at all, but I don't want to be a person who just says that it was not okay to give it to me, off-label argumenting, but for somebody with psychosis it's totally fine. I know that a lot of people with psychosis endured the same horror I did. But if somebody has truly informed (!) consented with taking an antipsychotic, who am I to say they can't. But it is dangerous, it's not just any medication. I have to hear a lot that it was okay I had to suffer because some people are helped by it. That every medication has side effects. But this was true torture for me. That's not the same as just some constipation. These same people that say it was okay, that I was treated correctly, think and claim that alcohol and illegal drugs are something totally different. That's my problem. You have to see antipsychotics for what they are and you have to be very cautious, in the same way that you won't give everyone illegal drugs without looking for danger signs just because someone can be helped by it. First do no harm.
thank you so much for sharing your story, I am 20 years old and a student nurse hoping to go into psychiatric nursing and I definitely agree with you that some mental health staff do more harm than good. There have been instances where I was on training placements and have seen medications given to patients against their wishes but when I question it I always get the same "You are just a student you do not understand enough to critique us". Instances of mental health staff shouting at patients for no reason and treating them as if they have done something wrong and getting yelled at myself when I question anything. There is a hierarchy culture is the only way I can describe it where if you are at the top and are seen as important in psychiatry nobody can question it and this causes lots of malpractice to go ignored. It is an awful culture in the psychiatric healthcare sector unfortunately but I aim to do everything I can to change it. My father was abusive and my mum had to be sectioned when I was a baby because of what he did to her mentally. Up until 15 years old he was very abusive to us and I had some mental health troubles and got expelled from secondary school because nobody understood my cries for help, it was seen as intentional misbehaving. Always remember that what happened to you is not at all your fault, but these experiences will give you strength and could possibly be used to change the psychiatric sector for the better. Have you considered a career in psychiatry?
Then that psychiatrist has problems and needs help
@@NurseEvie force feeding brain damaging substances. that is your job now. you people destroyed my life, castrated me. i pray to god, i can't tell here, they would ban my account.
According to the description of psychosis, I can't remember not remembering most times I have been accused of being psychotic.
the topic and them faces your son was making just made my day . Merry chritsmass to you all. 🤣🤣🤣
haha thanks! as i was editing the video all i could think was, "Damn he's really going to town w/ those faces xD"
My doctor said some people need to smoke and I was one of them😂 also don't ever put nobody on lithium the regular side effects aren't that bad but it's those rare side effects can cripple you up for years I've been off all those meds for 10 years or more and I'm doing better than I've ever done my doctors made me feel like a human Pez dispenser
I'll tell you what they can do they can cause you to have hyperthyroidism and Hashimoto's in legal blindness and a four arrhythmia rare heart condition😢
The only reason I went is because I couldn't quit crying after my divorce and then turned around and ended up in the system for 25 years it stole my life
What did you mean Hyperthyroidism from taking these pills?
@@sebastianliwinski222my dad's thyroid gland busted from this and he gained a lot of weight
That being said find an Integrative Provider who will evaluate the roots of your concerns before prescribing psych meds..🌿🌿🌿
Is there anything you can take to get off of Seroquel?
They destroy life
End of story
How so?
@@stefchris2067 read the insert for invega sustenna.... They tested it on rats..... Every one of them died
Have you taken them? 😂
@@GGavo-uv7kg I did and here I am 18 y/o, never been to college and unemployed.
@@HolyShitThatSucksMan420 sounds like a personal problem
A General practitioner I never met before in a walk-in clinic prescribed me Saroquill for insomnia once... 😑 😒
yeah it's rather quite common =/. I guess if someone needed to sleep THAT badly, if I were a prescriber, I might consider it. . .but I feel like it would be for very specific circumstances.
One antipsychotic side effect is the heart organ and breast area feels cold and hypothermia in a normal climate temperature, and people sit in front of the heater everyday for a year just to reverse that cold feeling
Is there any way to inquire directly with you about something? Just so difficult for me to find reliable resources but your outlook feels a bit more genuine than most by far
you can always shoot me an email at: psychnursecoaching@gmail.com. :)
It comes down to quality of life, ie side effects vs symptoms
❤ Merry Christmas to you and your family 😊
Your child is adorable
thanks, and same to you!
Im on 20 mgs of zyprexa and i gained 50 pounds in 1 yr. I worked with my dr to get on a really low dose and i was on a really small amount and i felt fine so i decided to stop it on my own. Biggest mistake of my life. I eventually ended up in the hospital. Now im back on 20mgs of it. Im trying to switch to abilify. I heard that abilify has less side effects.
Bro I actually love your videos
thx big dawg :)
I haven’t been psychotic since I started taking them. Explain that.
I appreciate your video's.
My daughter had psychosis in 2022 and we are now in the process to reduce the anti psychotic.
I wish I can just tell her to stop the meds.
We are now on 100mg Amulsipelride.
I hope that you will give your opinion and experience.
It is a very complicated issue.
definitely talk w/ the prescriiber about safely coming off the medication if that's what you guys decide :).
She’ll just get psychosis again
Amisulpride is one of the best, but not available in the US
If it were an actual antipsychotic it would be a cure😅 love your video and Channel brother❤❤
Truth!
I was never shown the leaflets, made the mistake of trusting what they told me, now i am trying to come off two poisons at once - cold turkey
Be careful take somme time off and away from everything to get back to yourself, tapering off is your best strategie still. Slowly lowering the dosage. I am personally on Multimeditation treatment tapering off meds over a longer period of time. If things don't work out well go back to a certain working dose slowly lowering it over a period of time...
I read all the side effects I just feel slowed down and have put on same wight
How do I safely wean myself off of them?
What you said at 17 minutes and 13 seconds goes for benzodiazepines nowadays the whole Holocaust against them is just ridiculous because there are people that do need them and some long-term
So my aunts ex husband used to play the tackle monster "gmae" with us I realised is abuse but I get gas lit by everyone except my writing group they all say he was just trying to bond but I think since he would go way past the point where is was so be I'd urinate and could not hardly breath . Is this abuse be cause it made it harder for me to set firm bounderis
My brother got an ativan prescription that he really didn't need. The psychologist could have told him to exercise, eat right, join a club, cultivate hobbies, slow acclimatization to work. Nah. That's work. Give him ativan, that's easy, plus the psych gets a commission. My brother is burnt out now. He'll never get off it. Never Ever. Imagine that
Mentioned I was occasionaly anxious . Immediately she prescribed an antipsychotic !
Im bioolar two on 400g lithium .
I just lost 8 kilos which surprised her . Im totally together . Fully functioning .
It seems she wants to sabotage all my hard work . I laughed when I read the side effects . Crazy to give such a dangerous drug to a relatively well person . One has to double check every thing with doctors . Had she given me xanax it would be more appropriate . She wants me to return in two months to tell her how I am . Really ! What does she want to check . See how fat, twitchy , zombie and constipated Ive become .
I’d still like to know what I should take instead of antipsychotics? I haven’t had side affects yet, but if it’s as bad as you say I don’t want to take them.
It's always a cost benefit analysis my friend. I think anyone who takes these medications has to experience at least one side effect. It's pretty much impossible not to feel at least a dated by taking them.
But! If you feel like it's having a positive impact on your psychosis then perhaps it's worth it. :)
First, do no harm. I really want to watch the video of you taking 5 mg of olanzapine but that's a special kind of destructive essay. Yesterday I bought 28 5 mg ones, they're a last resource
I work with mentally challenged and uneven individuals. My guess: Antipsychotics may be temporarily necessary, based on our limited knowledge of healing. Antipsychotics are not an advancement, but they are a stop-gap until society has healing as its goal. And as an aside - human structures struggle with the fact that they applies "degree of guilt" to certain individual groups, and not to others. Once healing becomes the goal for all of us, then the use of drugs can fade - maybe - long after I'm on the flipside.
Alternatives. Other sedatives benzodiazepines and natural sedatives like passion flower.
Non toxic and safe.
CBD oil.
Have you stopped posting videos?
just ridiculously busy. . .was close to posting another but life/parenting gets in the way :)
Ayyy merry Christmas, boss.
likewise bro, thx for stopping by as usual :)
Nicotine is a stimulant. As someone with ADHD (Dx at 5). When I became an adult I smoked for many years and it helped so much and I did not need to be prescribed a med or get a controlled substance. 1 cigarette an hour and I could focus and concentrate so well. Then I quit smoking. I ended up on Ritalin again to try and help and that does not work as well as cigarettes did.
My Great Grandfather was an Old Money Doctor from New England. The Hospitals have taken my best friend, and my Mother WHO THEY WERE from me! Neuroleptic drugs make patients like Micheal J Foxx, did Doctors make Micheal J Foxx like he is too ALL BECAUSE IN REAL LIFE HE WASNT AS PERFECT AS THE CHARECTERS HE PLAYED IN THE MOVIES HE ACTED IN?
Word you were seeking is ANALEPTICS
Opiates have Antipsychotic properties, they work incredibly well! In fact they work with 100% efficacy & they work immediately especially for psychotic symptoms. Opiates also arrest Severe Manic states, paranoid schizophrenia and “melancholia”so I disagree that all Antipsychotics are bad
Zyprexa ain't that worse especially not if taken once if you want bad effects take it for a longer period. Try haloperidol in high dosage than you know how hell feels on the inside. Just lowering your dopamine reward system level without anything to cover side effects. The way zyprexa effects you it is covering its own side effects by the way it clings on to the receptors it masks its own side effects try getting of off it after long term use that is worse. Also long time usage effects are quite nasty. 5 mg is for wussy's try 20 in one go....
The word is "ataractic"
If you're against antipsychotics why don't you come up with a new one
well then I'd be against the one I created! :)
Cigarettes don’t really have any benefits. It’s the nicotine they may benefit from. Cigarettes are worse than antipsychotics.
Anti psychotics are worse...than cigarettes.
I KNOW...
Hi Psych nurse I do a podcast about relationships but doing a month where I review movies I love to watch. I like your episodes. I watched coo coos nest movie and I worked at a hospital where they had a psych department. Could I have you on my show as a special guest and review the movie?
whoops! Thought I had left you my email. . .shoot me an email at psychnursecoaching@gmail.com
Sounds like a fun episode :)
why is there a littld boy making faces on his shoulder .. or am i just seeing things .. yikes ..
hes my son :) and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree!
Instead of so-called "antipsychotics", maybe psychiatrists should prescribe a course of Minocin, which actually WORKS to kill off psychosis. But then again, administering that particular antibiotic would also serve to kill off the psychiatrists' job security
This is the perfect example of someone "highly educated" equals highly indoctrinated nowadays, who is talking from a professional perspective, no common sense. He truly thinks smoking is good for someone and bad for others, that is just so out of touch with reality. Cigarettes er poison, period. You should listen to the real people who suffers from the very bad effects of this DRUGS!
I understand this position, at the same time I'd appreciate it if you addressed the analogy I brought up in the video, as I think all drugs have pros and cons--e.g. if smoking takes 5 years off my life but it reduces my anxiety and makes me feel better, that might be worth it to me, right? What are your thoughts?
@@A_Psych_NurseIt’s not worth it because there’s healthier ways to decrease anxiety.
With mental conditions, it is a little bit different since some can’t function without it
antihelmenthics.
Antidepressants are so 10 years ago. Yawn. Now adjunctive MDD uses of antipsychotics are all the rage. Just read the annual report of Intracellular Therapies about their ambitions to get Caplyta approved for the huge addressable 20 million patient MDD market.
i know it's CRAZY!
CBD has been proven to be an effective antipsychotic without all the horrible side effects, rather being kinda healthy. There are better alternatives than psychiatric medication peddled by people without a soul or conscience... Also, if you are experiencing psychosis consider changing your environment, like switching jobs or education. Also running or walking has a tremendous ability to heal you. Furthermore you should really consider going to a church or something similar for a supportive community
I use both. Antipsychotics with CBD get a super boost. Some times it gets really tough but there is no other way for some of us. I have tried a lot of stuff and it is good that I have because all these exercises, cold showers,...offset the effects of the pills. What is important is the mindset. If you believe in them and fight the good fight with the help of them you can win a lot of battles and they become just a necessary evil but if you just wallow there in misery then antipsychotics can be the end of you.
What’s your obsession with antipsychotics 😂
Talking about it and using phrases like 'using antipsychotics' 'antipsychotics' is just silly, you can not talk like this, also saying street drugs have benefits in my opinion is utter rubbish. Please when you go public think twice before you do something or say something. Generalisations like this lead to confusion, just read 'Medication madness' by Peter Breggin, also educate yourself on the work of A Hoffer. Mrn scans also should be done and often diagnosis is made based on riddiculos tests and some people may actually have a brain tumor. I am curious what benefits u would find if they wanted to give these poisons to e.g. zyprexa to your son on a daily bases if he became bipolar or psychotic at age 13. You asked so I have answered.
I highly recommend work of Joanna Moncrieff, Peter Breggin, but the most importantly orthomolecular medicine and A Hoffer.
you mention a lot here Izabela. All the street drugs I'm aware of have 'some' form of medicinal purpose or are prescribed medicinally (even drugs like meth & heroin have medicinal uses, same w/ cocaine, LSD, etc.).
Big fan of Breggin and Moncrief :). Moncrief, imho, seems a little more realistic on her view of medication, as Breggin is categorically against antipsychotics in seemingly all circumstances. I'm curious about Hoffer as I've never read his work.
Hoffer’s “Orthomolecular treatments” were proven ineffective. In fact he was severely criticized for that treatment protocol. Linus Pauling (here at OSU) his use of Vitamin C with Rose Hips was involved in Hoffer’s protocol. It didn’t work.
Abe Hoffer’s Orthomolecular treatments for Schizophrenia was no more effective than say hot baths, or Forest Bathing…it certainly didn’t cure schizophrenia.. Hoffer’s medical reputation in Canada & in Medicine was nearly destroyed by this idea. Linus Pauling inspired the protocol since Linus won a Nobel prize for his study with vitamin C using grams of it for all sorts of issues.
@BushyHairedStranger proven by whom? Big pharma? Patiens had a different view. However, surely schizophrenia is just a label and fake construct, there are many reasons one can get psychotic e.g., from the very drugs supposed to treat schizophrenia despite the fact the chemical imbalance in the brain is a big pile of bs, and their only function to restrain and cause array of side effects and with time atrophy of the brain!
Make u like a zombie it’s bf is G’s Iring DISGSITING and gor DI blue regain all ur emotions