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Black Power: A Discussion on the Condition of the Black Community
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- A 1993 roundtable discussion on the current condition of the Black Community and the fight for Liberation. Featuring Derrick Bell, Elaine Brown, Stanley Crouch, Ralph Ellison, John Edgar Wideman, Patricia Williams and Kwame Ture.
Kwame coming with an analysis that is timeless. Today our biggest issue is still organization. To this day we're still doing mass mobilization and when we try to organize like in Flint we're met with Cointelpro and black moderate opportunists.
tdavis9610 brother you should look up the International People’s Democratic Uhuru Movement (InPDUM). This organization embodies Ture’s stance of Organization > Mobilization and has been consistently leading campaigns and building institutions to serve our people and lead our liberation struggle. You’d fit in well there brother
The only thing keeping capitalism standing atm is people's lack of organization
Elaine Brown laid it DOWN !!! 🌺✊👊🙏🎩💥
She’s a fuckin fed and did more to kill the BPP than anyone
SO DID RUBADIRI VICTOR - BLESS
Love Elaine but she's half dead wrong. Africa doesn't have a GD thing to do with us, OR ANYONE ELSE. They are all trying to BE LIKE us, to get to OUR country. You lose all notion of Self and positive Identity when you say you shouldn't think like an owner in the country your ancestors built from scratch. That's why you don't hear anyone else in this hemisphere talking about "we're lost in our country and should be somewhere else." This disorientation ia the root of EVERYTHING wrong and dysfunctional about us.
I'm upset that Crouch is disrespecting Kwame Ture by addressing him by his former name. At first I thought Crouch had made an honest mistake because he apologized & subsequently corrected himself, but the second time it was obviously deliberate. Btw Elaine Brown is nauseated by Crouch, you can tell. LOL
He was truly unbearable, only thing worst than being disrespectful is that he was clearly overwhelmed by this subject matter and should’ve stuck to jazz critique
Even his Jazz critiques sucked and Jazz artists routinely gave him the business for his takes lol@@theblackcyde2506
Marcus Mosiah Garvey once said Be black love black and think black. Black power brother Nkwame Ture.
Your channel is honestly one the best things on RUclips. Thank you so much for sharing these clips
Kwame Ture is my hero. His analysis of the black struggle is no different than that of Nkumah. He has stay the cause to this very day. I believed in his ideals and philosophy.
Kwame Ture is the truth
Kwame Ture was a gem. So intelligent, handsome & regal! He may be gone but his legacy remains. I'm happy that, like DuBois, Ture decided to move to Ghana where he lived until he died. May God keep his soul in eternal peace.
@@waimbuthia820 Elaine Brown was just as awesome.
@@LuqmanNation Goodness, yes!
I'm mesmerized by Ture, Brown, and Ellison. I wish I could hear the 3 talk over coffee for hours.....You'd get all the perspectives...
Surely they did not call these seven people together for a 20 min panel discussion. I'm assuming only 20 minutes were allocated for the News Hour program. I'm sure Dr. Ture went deeper into "reforms vs power" and "organization vs mobilization." Each person's specific solution would have been great.
Right?
MORE IS COMING
LORD HAVE MERCY!! THE HEAVY WEIGHTS [ TURE/BROWN ] VS..negros...AWESOME PRESENTATION
Elaine Brown you go lady!!
Elaine was an agent 🤷🏿♂️
@@kharigraves1963 I agree! But the tragedy is that she is a very convincing agent. However, Kwame Ture is far from being an agent. He never sold out his people and never had anything on him that exposes his betrayal to the people like Elaine Brown.
My postscript to this; Hunter-Gault has lost her way. I met her last year in Tampa. It was brief. I recognized her at the Tampa airport and wanted to say Hi. When I asked her what she was doing these days, she said she's still a journalist on the News Hour and does "Conversations" with important people. I had forgotten this much older panel when I suggested she add Angela Davis to her list. She made a face and said that "she's not someone who fits my program." I was disappointed by the strange response and so did not even have the heart to post the encounter on Facebook. Hunter-Gault was not someone who fit my program either. I can only imagine from her answer and her tone that this particular panel she was TOLD to do, and that she does what she is TOLD.
why he look like uncle ruckus
I love how he said comrade.
that clown use to be a comrade before he started tap dancing
I love how Kwame Ture tore down Crouch argument by discussing how regardless of race the material conditions were still the same. Calling him comrade was a nice touch, I can’t believe crouch used BILL COSBY and Michael Jordan as evidence of progress
KWAME TURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
💚❤️🖤KWAME IS A LEGEND!
Well, at least Stanley is consistent, still hopp-scotching on the White and Black border til this very day.
It's not just about political power. Black people need a social and economic PLAN.
Exactly
"The solution is economic. The prerequisite is political."
Quoted from Stokely Carmichael's lecture here (time stamp: 49:13): ruclips.net/video/mhRujWQy5Tk/видео.html
Would love to hear their views today (those who are still alive).
Sad that we don't have enough sense of Self to have these conversations in private.....
Thank you for sharing. Is there a longer version of this discussion?
One thing I think we need to realize is that Black progress,especially economic progress,may never be even for all Blacks. Because different Blacks can have different opportunities and circumstances depending on where they live. The job opportunities for Blacks in Detroit may not be the same as it is for Blacks living in Washington D.C for example. Also another factor is personal ambition. Not all Blacks are going to have the same amounts of ambition. Differences with this can cause there to be differences among Blacks and upward mobility.
i disagree. obviously you are right to some degree but i believe these differences come from economic or material inequality. economic and racial progress are different. in order for us to have real equality we need racial and economic progress. marxism is liberating only by tearing down social stratification and flattening class divides.
Crouch desperately needed an aggressive dental reconfiguration.
Great channel
All offered good insights, apart from Patricia Williams-- unfounded tabloid rumors about wanting a white boy to play Jackson in a film seemed a silly offeringto the discussion.. a rare treat to see Ralph Ellison, whose book sadly remains relevant to this day.
Jackson wanted bright DAMNED near white to play him. Jackson said that himself!
Love it.
1993 - 2023...everything has changed...yet everything is still the same...thought is like water...its always changes...when black people realize that water is the most powerful element which according to the hopi prophesy...the realization of that will become reality.
"I'm not impressed because Michael Jordan got a contract with Nike."
Hahahahah! Seriously, who gives a fu---
Why didn't Mr. Crouch have chapstick on hand on this day?
Crouch a true NEGROPEAN!
I wonder if any of them saw a Black president coming?
lol obama was a neocolonialist puppet.
@@tgerard3860
Can you give some examples of that?
@@CrowdPleeza caricom asked the US to join their reparations claim against england, france, belgium, netherlands etc. obama refused. in 2016 obama dropped 26,171 bombs on black and brown people on the african continent and the asian continent. black wealth was decimated under obama. black folk held / tend to hold our wealth in our homes. the subprime mortgage scandal that targeted black folk and led to the crash in 2008 should've been a wake up call. obama sided with wall street and the banks. I have more, let me know if I should go on.
@@CrowdPleeza obama expanded the militarization of the continent, Africa. He waged war and coup and so many nations.
listening to Crouch speak was just listening to him speak in circles and circles. Pure gibberish. No different from today when you spit facts at people thats all they do especially when speaking of Capitalism and how unethical it is lol
5:24 I think that's Nat Hentoff
American Black leaders are not emphasizing to young blacks to stay in school, follow American laws, avoid drug use, guns, violence and support the mothers of their young children and all their children always!
Blacks lead every category indicating their struggle to obtain the "American Dream" life.
Most young Blacks dream of a career in sports, entertainment, etc., but they are not encouraged to have backup plan which should include graduating from high school, then graduating from a trade school, college or military training.
American Blacks are fortunate to have an American citizenship, which most of the world will never have. Encourage young blacks to take advantage of this opportunity!
What Derrick Bell said was absurd - being 'an evil.' I am glad that Stanley Crouch checked him.
Stanley Crouch per usual is laughably inept at these conversations, his pompous and veiled insulted at Kwame Ture were terribly childish. Always necessary to have diverse thought in order to maximize conversation but he was in over his head
@voiceoftheancestors
#voiceoftheancestors sent me here!!!!!!!