The GREATEST MISUNDERSTANDING in Divisional Round HISTORY | Browns @ Cowboys (1969)
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- Prior to the divisional round of the 1969 NFL playoffs between the Cleveland Browns and Dallas Cowboys, head coach Tom Landry made some comments about the Browns defense that gave the Browns motivation to play lights out. The Browns, especially eventual Hall of Fame wide receiver Paul Warfield, felt that Tom Landry completely disrespected them. The only problem? Landry's quote was a compliment, if anything, and the Browns completely took it out of context. This is the story behind the misunderstanding that might've led the Browns to a rare road playoff win
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Members of the 1969 Cowboys:
Ron Widby
Roger Staubach
Craig Morton
Lance Rentzel
Mel Renfro
Bob Hayes
Mike Johnson
Dennis Homan
Les Shy
Mike Gaechter
Dan Reeves
Otto Brown
Walt Garrison
Cornell Green
Calvin Hill
Phil Clark
Bobby Joe Conrad
Claxton Welch
Richmond Flowers
Craig Baynham
Dave Manders
Dave Edwards
Fred Whittingham
Chuck Howley
Lee Roy Jordan
Thomas Stincic
Malcolm Walker
Jackie Burkett
Blaine Nye
Larry Cole
Halvor Hagen
John Wilbur
George Andrie
Rayfield Wright
Tony Liscio
Ralph Neely
Bob Lilly
Jethro Pugh
John Niland
Ron East
Mike Clark
Pettis Norman
Mike Ditka
Tom Landry (head coach)
Tex Schramm (president)
Members of the 1969 Browns:
Don Cockroft
Bill Nelsen
Jerry Rhome
Freddie Summers
Dean Brown
Ernie Kellermann
Charlie Leigh
Reece Morrison
Ben Davis
Walt Sumner
Ron Johnson
Mike Howell
Bo Scott
Erich Barnes
Dave Jones
Paul Warfield
Fair Hooker
Leroy Kelly
Alvin Mitchell
John Garlington
Dale Lindsey
Billy Andrews
Fred Hoaglin
Chuck Reynolds
Bob Matheson
Wayne Meylan
Al Jenkins
Joe Taffoni
Jim Copeland
John Demarie
Gene Hickerson
Jim Kanicki
Joe Righetti
Walter Johnson
Monte Clark
Dick Schafrath
Bob Oliver
Jack Gregory
Jim Houston
Chip Glass
Marvin Upshaw
Gary Collins
Ron Snidow
Milt Morin
Blanton Collier (head coach)
Art Modell (owner)
Doesn't sound like Landry made a "mistake", so much as the Browns lied to themselves to get fired up, which happens sometimes in sports.
that's how I see it, they knew it was a complement but knew they needed an edge so they cherry picked what to get emotional about.
With those playoff performances; Craig Morton should be the patriarch of the 39.6 passer rating reference.
10:41-10:47 "...and a passer rating of 11.1, which is worse than if he did nothing but spike the ball to the ground on every single play."
How about Morton for the playoffs, Rusty Lisch for the regular season?
Craig Morton *did* take two teams to the Super Bowl; you can't deny him that. That's more than most QBs.
Before we talk about how Tom Landrys comments were taken out of context.. we need some context
I was alive at the time, and I recall the original quote, and yes, it was taken out of context.
If I took a drink every time I hear "Click the card..." I'd be dead.
Tom Landry: the defense bends
Paul Warfield: I took that personal
Tom Landry wasn't also one of the greatest coaches in NFL history, Tom Landry was CLASS!
"Bend but dont break" is a common thing Browns fans would say back in the day. I guess this is where we got it from but it really was how they played even in the 80s and early 90s when I was a kid.
Landry got his revenge on Warfield at long last in SB VI. Covered inside and out , he only had 4 passes for a measly 39 yards and no critical plays.
And Warfield burned the cowturds on thanksgiving day 1973 on 50 yard touchdown.
@@philipdickerson1765 I can only say one thing. 24-3 in the SB is a *lot* more satisfying than 14-7 in a regular season game.
@@brockgeorge777 You are right but the cowturds DB'S could not cover him one one. He toasted Mel Renfro
@@philipdickerson1765 true. But nor could anyone else handle him one on one. Look what he did to Baltimore in the AFC Championship Game and Oakland (always known for great cornerbacks)the prior year in the regular season. Frankly, he was the Jerry Rice of a mostly non-passing era he played in.
Come in, Paul Warfield knew what he was doing when he cut out only half the article and put it on the bulletin board. Well played Mr. Warfield, well played.
Warfield was a complete stud!
Opposing coach before facing the Dolphins in 1972: They're a great team obviously but every team has a weakness and we think we can win if we play well enough.
Warfield: DID YOU HEAR THAT, GUYS?!?! THEY THINK THEY'LL STEAMROLL OVER US BECAUSE WE'RE WEAK!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!
Now you know the real reason the '72 Dolphins were unbeaten.
My thoughts exactly. I don't know of course, but it absolutely seems like he simply - and VERY cleverly - found motivation where there really wasn't.
3:28 Dave Krieg also had a perfect passer rating in the 1983 playoffs against the Broncos.
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Ah... took till 10:41!!
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After this inexcusable playoff flameout, there was ample discussion within the Cowboy organization and media as to what was the problem with the team playing beneath itself. One theory was that Landry's micromanaging strategy and coaching style had the players tight as drums on gameday, overprepared and overthinking. Landry's playbook was huge, probably inhibiting his players from playing with emotion.
I believe the "misunderstanding" was on purpose
I miss mud games.
me too, and I miss stadiums with character over the big frills stadiums of today
Epilogue: In the 1969 Cleveland Browns highlights tape, NFL Films records the players on the sidelines talking about rubber bands. I never understood the full context of that until watching this video 😃 Nicely done!
I noticed from that sideline footage one Brown saying he wanted to feel sorry for Landry but couldn't, implying some kind of resentment. It might have come from the 52-14 playoff score in 1967 with the Browns feeling Landry ran up the score unnecessarily.
@@sportshistorybuff I've seen that NFL Films footage of Browns player saying that. Same point, but I believe that was during the 1968 playoff game. I had wondered why, and your theory about him saying that due to the 1967 playoff game makes a good deal of sense
Awesome video--Love the nostalgia and story-telling on this one. Great job
I'm a little hazy whether it was this game or the playoff game the year before, but I remember watching a Browns-Cowboys playoff game on a television in a department store in the shopping mall while the rest of my family was Christmas shopping. I think my father stayed with me and watched with me. I was rooting for the Browns. I hated the Cowboys even then and still hate them now. I remember there was an older kid, maybe about fifteen years old, who was watching the game along side us who was rooting for the Cowboys.
I used to watch games sometimes on TV at stores too, but this was during the '80s. I had no idea this was a thing in the '60s 😯
@@DolFan316 well they had to walk uphill and barefoot to the store
@@DolFan316 I'll give you another department store story. Same situation a few years later. I'm in the store watching the Steelers-Raiders playoff game while my mother and sisters are Christmas shopping. I guess my father was with me too but he might have gone with my mother and left me alone. Doesn't matter. Steelers are ahead, I think 3-0. We get in the car to drive home, and on the way, we put the game on the radio and hear the Raiders take the lead. Although I'm an Eagles fan, I (at the time) really liked the Dolphins and Raiders too, so I was really invested in the game. Kenny Stabler scores a touchdown and puts the Raiders ahead with minutes to go. We continue to drive home. As we approach our neighborhood, there are only seconds left and the Raiders are going to win. We pull into our driveway just as the fourth down play is about to happen. The Raiders are one play way from victory. I'm excited. I run from the car into the house to turn on the TV to watch the celebration. Except as I turn on the TV, it's the Steelers who are celebrating. In the thirty seconds or so that it took me to get from the driveway to the inside of my house, I missed the Immaculate Reception play.
If it helps you remember, the '68 game was played on a Saturday and this '69 game was played on a Sunday
Another note. I could swear I saw a short video where Landry did say they had “sort of a rubber band defense” but even then the context was not an insult.
What I remember about this era of NFL history was that the Browns had won the Eastern Conference in both '64 & '65, but the Cowboys won it in both '66 & '67 (CLE finishing 2nd both years), and then lost 2 tough Championship games to the Packers.
When Lombardi retired after the '67 season the assumption was that the Cowboys were Green Bay's heir apparent as the best team in the NFL. Cleveland took this personally, as they had been just as successful as Dallas in recent years, though nobody gave them credit for it. They used it as motivation every time they played Dallas in the late '60's.
The camera speed back then is hilarious by today's standards. These guys look like they are running in a pool full of jello even at full speed.
Paul Warfield said, “I took it personal.”
Surprisingly, the Browns handled the Cowboys pretty easily in the ‘68 and ‘69 Divisional Round Playoffs - only to lose badly to a former Western Division team in the Championship Game. The following week after this game, the Browns imploded against the Joe Kapp-led Vikings at The Met 27-7.
I thought the game was in Cleveland along with the Colts game played the year before.
To be fair, they shouldn't have been expected to even compete with a team that had already demolished them 51-3 that season.
The 1968 NFL Championship was at Municipal Stadium, where the Browns lost to the Colts 34-0. Then, in 1969, they lost to the Vikings 27-7 in Bloomington, MN. Both games were total blow outs. Kinda similar to what happened in a few of the Wildcard games this past weekend, only worse.
@@denisceballos9745 Yes. This was the era the NFL "rotated" playoff game sites. That's why the 13-1 Colts played at Cleveland in 1968 NFL Title Game. NFL continued to rotate, ending in 1974 or 1975 (I think 1974). Remember the undefeated Dolphins played 1972 NFC Championship Game at Pittsburgh. In 1973, Cowboys got both playoff games at home despite having a worse record than Rams and Vikings respectively
@@kevinburke8464 The NFL ended rotating playoff games after the 1974 season. 1975 was the first season in which the league used a seeding system in the playoffs.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about Tom Landry trash talking his former team, the Giants, before they met in 1977. That trash talking worked out well for Landry and the Cowboys.
And now the Giants are in the same state in 2022 as they were in 1977
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Landry was smart enough not to give opponents bulletin board material, though this time, didn't come out as it meant
Your videos are a must watch. I like all of the information you put in here. Accurate information.
Reminds me of the story behind the "No-Name Defense." Landry said before Super Bowl VI against the Dolphins "I don't know many of their names, but they are of great concern to us", but the Dolphins' players some how ended up being told he said "They're a bunch of no-names who pose no concern to us." Manny Fernandez even repeats the misunderstanding in the 1972 Dolphins America's Game episode.
Jaguar gator be posting 3 straight videos about the Cowboys
God, I sure miss Tom Landry! Great couch and one class man!
The one thing that bothered me about Craig Morton was that he threw "hope and pray" passes with defenders hanging on him. Sometimes you just have to protect the ball.
That Browns logo is unquestionably the worst I’ve ever seen.
How can you even call it a logo
Since WHEN have the Cleveland Browns and the Dallas Cowboys UNDERSTOOD EACH OTHER? Combined BOTH teams are a 39.6. They would be BETTER OFF just SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!!
Ummm..."rubber bands bend, steel bands don't"...what? That comment makes no sense. I know what he was trying to say, but he fell dramatically short.
When steel bands fail, they fail catastrophically. I guess that's what happened to the Brown's steel band defense the very next week against the Vikings, eh?
That's the advantage of rubbers, no?
Nice video about the 1969 season!
I wonder what Landry's reaction was to Warfield taking his comment completely out of context.
I could imagine it was “Oops…”
He probably was complimentary of Warfields reading comprehension abilities bending and not breaking
Landry got even with Warfield in SB6. Shut him down with great defensive strategy.
When you were describing their defense before Landry’s quote I thought “So they bend but they don’t break.” I hope Paul Warfield doesn’t live in Iowa…
I remember those play-off losses to the Browns, especially the 38-14 loss, as this was on my 12th birthday, and how miserable it was for me, being a die-hard Cowboys fan back then....I just could not understand why the Cowboys were just underachieving so badly in those games, while it was s if the Browns could do absolutely NO wrong....I do think it had a lot to do with the tradition of winning that was instilled in a very successful Browns franchise, more accustomed to the limelight and big matchups, while the Cowboys were still going through some growing pains...I never thought the Browns were a better team, but I thought they simply played better obviously than the Cowboys, who seemed to play uptight and afraid, and did not believe in themselves in the toughest games...It was a serious hurdle they would begin to overcome the very next season...
It was because Blanton Collier was an underrated coach who prepared the snot out of his team for those games
We were on the long drive back home after Christmas from Grandma & Grandpa's and listened to this game on the car radio. It was just as this video described; the Cowboys couldn't get anything going offensively and they couldn't slow down the Browns. A depressing ride home listening to your favorite team get their butts kicked in the playoffs in their own stadium.
Speaking of bulletin board material and postseason blowouts involving Tom Landry's Cowboys, I think a video on the 1978 NFC Championship Game would also be interesting. Before the Cowboys went to Los Angeles to play the Rams for the right to advance to Super Bowl XIII, Dallas linebacker Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson said, "The Rams don't have the class to be in the Super Bowl." But after Henderson talked the talk, he walked the walk. The Cowboys dominated the Rams, 28-0, on the road. The exclamation point was that the final touchdown was a pick-six by, you guessed it, Hollywood Henderson. The quietness of the large crowd at the LA Coliseum was sweet music to my ears all afternoon.
Two things that showed how much things have changed in the NFL - The Browns beat a Super Bowl contender in the playoffs, and cheerleaders were actually allowed in the end zone....
CORRECTION: The '69 Browns offense had THREE future Hall of Famers: WR Paul Warfield, RB Leroy Kelly and OG Gene Hickerson. LT Dick Schafrath arguably deserves to be in the Hall.
I think the main thing that motivated the Browns was that they wanted to make the NFL championship game, not something one of their wide receivers took out of context that the Cowboys' coach said. The Browns were just a better team that year. They won by 32 in the regular season and then they won by 24 in this game. And as you said yourself, their defense had improved and was playing very well going into the postseason.
I hardly think Browns (with their storied history and a World Championship just 5 seasons earlier) only wanted to "make the NFL Championship Game".
Browns had championship standards, so were just as motivated vs Vikings in NFL Championship Game. However, Vikings dominated them, which was 27-0 until a garbage Browns score for 27-7. And that Vikings team was then overpowered by the Chiefs
@ 0:27 #18 is Gina Carano’s dad Glen...just a little added trivia.
Craig Morton. I don't know, what coach Landry saw in this guy.
He actually put Morton in the Super Bowl with a busted up shoulder. Against The Colts 😢
"He had a paeers rating of 11.1, which is worse than if he did nothing but click the card in the upper right corner."
Joe Football
I believe that Cleveland knew what Landry meant, but used it to motivate them. However, Dallas, as a team, used to seem to be condescending when talking about the Browns, as if they believed that the 52 to 14 pasting of Cleveland in the 1967 playoff game was the true difference in the quality of the two teams. Don Meredith once was speaking of the Cowboys troubles of having lost two NFL Championship games to Green Bay and then they LOST to CLEVELAND!!, as if that had to be really terrible, losing to a team like Cleveland.
As for the Browns, their 1967 team was their worst of the decade. It was an anomaly, and that team was not anywhere as good as the 1964, 1966, 1968, and 1969 Cleveland teams. As far as their teams of that era, they were far below average in 1967.
10:44 And 8 years later, Craig Morton ended up posting a goose egg in the Passer Rating in Super Bowl XII as a Denver Bronco, against the Dallas Cowboys.
Maybe he should have spiked the ball on every single play
Who Dey!
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I had always wondered if Lombardi were coaching the Cowboys if those losses would have still taken place...I think the Cowboys would have been a far more battle-hardened program under a Lombardi, and would have beaten the Browns...
How bad were the Cowboys in those 2 lopsided 1968 & 1969 playoff losses to the Browns? In NFL Championship Games the following weeks vs Colts & Vikings, Cleveland was outscored by a combined score of 61-7, with Browns only TD being a garbage score vs Vikings
That is no a divisional round
Interesting video. I agree that Landry was a great coach, however as a Browns fan I get tired of the lack of respect for the coach who invented the forward pass and the helmet radio. If you want to know who that is, flip the card in the upper right hand corner 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Around the 9:00 minute he states the final score did not reflect the actual outcome of the game. Actually, it exactly reflected the outcome of the game. The final score is the outcome of a game. Maybe he meant to say did not reflect the competitive balance of the game. That would be accurate.,
Mud
Great video as always! One thing, if Bill Nelson was a playoff caliber QB for the Browns in 1969, why did he go to Detroit in 1970 to be Greg Landry’s backup with the Lions?
You’re thinking of Bill Munson who I think was on Detroit before that year - Landry and Munson alternated for a long time.
@@davidfiddleman2312 Thanks, you are correct, Bill Munson!!
That’s Munson at 5:15
"This is the story behind the misunderstanding that might've led the Browns to a rare road playoff win"? In the first 24 years of their existence, the Browns were in the playoffs 17 times and 10 of those were in championship games. It didn't become rare until after this game.
This was just the third time the Browns won a road playoff game (1947 AAFC Championship, 1955 NFL Championship). Before this game, they were 2-6 on the road in the playoffs
53 Years Ago
Geographically speaking, the Cowboys had no business being in the Eastern Conference. In 1969, they were the NFL's third western-most team.
They became part of the NFC East in 1970, and remain there despite being west of every North and South Division team in the NFC.
Time to take them out of the NFC East.
The Baltimore Colts were in the Western Division for a while.
They were in the Eastern Conference of the NFL for the whole decade of the 1960's
Is the eastern conference championship
I grew up a Steelers fan who also admired the Oilers under coach Phillips, so I never liked Dallas, their whining, and their dirty players like randy white and their defensive backs. That said, we all respected Coach Landry.
Here it sounds likely Cleveland envied really solid teams like Dallas so much they got jealous and threw a tantrum.
Yes, solid team that the Browns beat 34-20, 42-10 and 38-14 the last times they played in the NFL. Don't confuse these Browns to the Browns of today. They were one of the best teams their first 20 years in the NFL. Ask your grandpa, he most likely saw the Browns beat the crap out of the Steelers in that era.
Nice vid
Hello florida man,
Huge fan from France. Would like to participate in the trivias but it would be really late for me (3am).
Any other oversea fan in the same situation ?
"Bulletin Board Material" is overrated horseshit that gets played up by sports writers/media. Any player/team that is affected to the positive or negative based on a newspaper article is soft.
Browns still 0 for Super Bowl appearances.
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The cleveland cweifs certainly are sensitive....Warfield evidently couldn't read or write.
Warfield??? What did he have to do with the Browns defense? Warfield's in the Pro Football HOF as a wide receiver.
Cool
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Craig Morton was an underwhelming Quarterback.