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I don’t think this anime has pacing issue. It’s based off a horror novel. Not a manga or light novel, but a horror novel from a legit novelist. That’s what makes this anime great. It’s complex and mature.
@@ProfessorViral I definitely felt the last episodes had pacing issues. Some scenes barely mentioned something, then one second later, a sudden jump straight into that thing made it hard to follow what was happening.
it’s my favorite anime of all time, and one of my favorite stories in general, without a doubt, and i get excited just thinking about it, especially how it handles its themes and its boldness in direction. but it definitely has pacing issues. it lingers on certain scenes and ideas for too long and quickly jumps past others. it still has some of my favorite world building of all time, but it’s not the cleanest adaptation possible, that’s for sure. it’s pretty ugly on the outside, but it’s so deep and rich and meaningful if you dig beneath the muck
I really enjoyed the series, but I think it's just obscure enough with its point, which for me was the selling point, that its flaws get noticed more. Not confusing like Ergo Proxy, but requiring more of a "read" than most
@@ProfessorViral the animation strangeness and the sexual tone of episode 5 & 6(when saki and sataruo are running from the monster rats after having Power taken by the Monk) really throw off a lot of people. But if people accept Neon Genesis so much and it has such a cult following despite(and because of) its flaws, why doesn't/didn't this show? interesting what the world as a group decides to enjoy.
@@morsumbra9692 Presentation, Evangelion uses a more pleasant medium and symbolism that is more active in catching the audience attention. SSY on the other hand uses a slower and more deceptive way of extracting the reaction it wants. Because of that EVA can be enjoyed even for only it's parts, while SSY recquires it's whole to be enjoyed and understood, it's both a con and a pro as because of that EVA struggles to convey it's own message and misses the point by not being fully optimal to it's goal, while SSY works for maximum effects but ends making an uphill battle to solve the mysteries
Shinsekai yori has a major problem with it's info dumps and lack of show don't tell, but other than that i see the story as a 10/10 The animation is inconsistence, but the art is extremely good and unique. the characters are kind of meh, but they also only need to be normal people, which they are. that along with it's great directing and music, in my mind still makes it a high 8 or low 9/10. great video, I just wanted to put this out there
I'm glad that there are people finally analyzing Shinsekai Yori, because it was one of my favorite anime, when I initially saw it on crunchyroll in 2012. The concept of a man so overburdened with power that he might unwillingly destroy the people that he loves and cares for is so fascinating and terrifying to me-as well as the looming threat of a council of unquestionable authority who are capable of ejecting the very memory of people who they deem unfit to exist in current society granted power to act with absolute impunity. I couldn't care less about the pacing issues and the subpar animation. You just don't get stories this compelling every day, you know?
If I hadn't been more put of by the worse elements I mentioned, I think this one could have broken me at the end for sure. But, I'm also a snob and from the second they were mentioned I was hoping the story would have that twist with the monster rats, so I kind of prepared myself for it, I guess
SPOILER ALERT I can never be able to get over the whole Squeeler plot. If the story was by his own POV, we would had the tipical distopic narrative with the same old tropes and cliches. But how we see everything by the eyes of the humans, we started the anime giving little to non shit about the rat-people situation and even desiring their deaths. It's heartbreaking to me when the show reavel that these rat-people are actually people that suffered biological engeniring to look like rats only to be submited by the will of the new human race. When Squeeler says "I'M HUMAN" and everybody laughs and then he receive the capital punishment for his crimes, I felt it....
The “humanity” we are dealing with is killing itself whether slowly or abruptly. There will eventually be a new great Rat to stand up to this failed and abusive society or a fluke that kills off whatever “Gods” are left. The leak of Rat’s legitimate humanity is beginning spread by the time of Squealer’s punishing. Either way, the old humans they tried to cleanse from existence will rise again.
Yeh, also the adults in the city dispose of children, which is disgusting, but as the story goes, both the maincast and the watcher starts to just accept it and then we are sorry when the village is massacred by the messiah. I guess the maincast is forced to accept, but my point stands. We feel less empathy towards the rats, because of how they look, how their language is different, we see them as inferior even though we know Its wrong for them to be discriminated against, we kinda side with the humans. What the fiend did to the village is horrible, but I'd say that tragedy and the fear of it happening again is not a good enough reason for what the humans are doing in the village. Their fear was so big, but so was their arrogance, they only feared of fiends and karma demons, but at the end even, if with the help of a human, the rats almost wiped them out. I'd say they had it coming for them. I am pretty sure squaler didnt just blurt the human part out randomly. They probably found out the truth from the fake minoshiro.
@@magicmarcell was waiting for this comment. All I could think were the parallels with the effects of Zionism and Imperialism on Palestine and the entire world
I haven’t watched the video yet, but I have to say when I first watched this show it was a pain to go from each episode to the next, I constantly wanted to drop it throughout, although what was happening was interesting it wasn’t engaging and I was worried it was gonna be a waste of my time, but my god the ending was so good immediately I felt everything I watched had been worth it, it was so satisfying how suddenly in the last episode I realized I had just watched an amazing story. I don’t plan on ever watching it again or at least not anytime soon since it *was* a pain to watch, but maybe I will if I ever start forgetting what happened in it because it’s a story I don’t wanna forget
It is odd how its a slog up until the final episode, which hist exactly everyone point it needed to to make the thematic elements feel amazing, despite it being technically weaker
I found the series hard to follow at first. Information didn't directly click about the new human culture and concepts. What kept me watching was my intrigue for the monsterrats. They are very strange yet their culture evolves and starts to mimic human history. I think Squealer is a very interesting character. He seems a villain and a hero at the same time.
I loved this show, the beginning was good to get through, mostly the middle part was very slow. The ending was god-tier though, it absolutely blew my mind. It's my second favourite show after Higurashi, an equally bleak and depressing show, would love to see you make a video about that one as well 😬
@@sebastianpolo6271 At this point, for me at least, these two take up spots number 1 and 2 in anime overall, not just horror. Though they are both equally, for different reasons, hard to recommend to different people.
You mistaken maria's child for fiend. The child was raised by rats and thought of itself as rat thos killing humans had no effect on it. It is different from fiend which is why he/she died after killing one of rats by mistake
I never watched the anime but read the novel its based on. And i can 100% say that this is a novel everyone should read. It asks many many difficult questions and many of them are relevant in our reality as well. It truly makes you question who the actual villains are and who are the victims. Its a literal orwelian dystopian sh*t type. Its like 1984 but on steroids. Even those yuri and yaoi parts are actually there to shove it down our throat just how suffocating this society was made to be. Its disgusting, uncomfortable and something everyone should see in their life. Its just that good imo. Its not supposed to be like most other animes which you just watch/read for fun, its something you watch/read with seriousness to truly understand what is happening and contemplate the seriousness of its plot and world. Its just something everyone should watch to question what true justice and morality is atleast once.
@@candide1065 umm what do you mean? Children are almost forced to do them. Thats how it was showing us how dystopian their society was. It adds an extra layer to that.
PsychoPass and From the New World started airing around the same time. I remember back then, every week looking forward to new episodes from both to drop. It was a joyful time.
"morals" just make us feel better and make it so society doesn't fall apart. who are we to say what is or isn't human - in other words, what does matter and what doesn't, who's allowed to hurt who, what's acceptable and what's not? what's decent or what's too far? we can call a human worth more than a leaf of a plant, but that's just our own value system. say it's under the universe, we are all the same
And just because he's a human, a man would like a little bite to eat; he wants no bull and a lot of talk that gives no bread or meat. And just because he's a human, he doesn't like a pistol to his head. He wants no servants under him, and no boss over his head. And just because he's a worker, no class can free him but his own. The emancipation of the working class is the task of the worker alone.
idk i watched the anime in 3 days. and yes i binged from episode 11 to 25 lol. Was just so good i couldnt stop. And i really dont get some of the complaints that some people have. I have to say i really like the art style. It fits the show and the vibe really good. Pacing idk didnt read the novel but felt good to me. And the last complaint i heard was the characters being hollow or something like this. And idk yea they arent the deepest characters, but still they are cool. I dont think they need to be the most philosophically complex characters. Especially in this world where the world already does that job. Also for most of the show they are kids. Like you cant expect kids to be debaiting wheather killing some rats is bad. They learned that those are just some rats and that it is morraly okay. That is all they know. So yea idk if i missed something but those where most of the complains i heard that anoyed me a bit as they partly didnt make sense to me.
oh and also i binged it so fast because it was so intresting in my opinion. I just saw a comment about it feeling like a drag, but idk I think it was one of the most binge worthy shows (exept taht it emotionaly destroyed me lol) that i have watched in a while.
Shinsekai yori so underated and hated on for some of most trivial reasons. I think does well job diving in the depths humans,society and though a tragic tell it a yet hopeful one. Does well judge presenting the false utopia as well and I love sako development as respectful female character I truly have no qualms with her unlike many female protagonist I love girl power must just don't cut it or seems forced often ends disappointing me.
Great video man, this anime was one of the darkest and bleakest of all time, with suffering and discrimination, a twisted form of morality and deconstructing the rot of an society that mirror the worst of dystopian literature. Although AOT has dealt with similar theme shinsekai yori raw and unflinching visuals of the human race (short of being misanthropic at times, can't blame them imo) make me enjoy it a bit more no matter how controversial that statement was.
The brutal visuals were for sure one of the strongest aspects. I always think of the "hero shot" of them literally exploding the heads of their enemies, and it's normalized, even celebrated. Those lay such a strong ground for what the series is saying
I usually dislike fantasy, dystopian post-apocalyptic settings, coming of age tales, mutant creatures, superpowers and wars...but this anime used these tropes like Neon Genesis Evangelion did back then with other genres, to deconstruct them all and deny the nerd audience any form of naïve comfortable escapism, by turning it all into unsettling situations, if not plainly horror, with plenty of cliffhangers and twists up to the very end.
The ending of the story backs that up pretty literally; only the antagonist gets comfort, and then it's only the comfort of being release from the worst pain anyone has ever known eternally
I loved this video, but I also loved the show, and definitely did not find it "average". It's definitely not for everyone, but depending on what you're looking for I think the weaknesses can easily be overlooked. So while your analysis is great and I really enjoyed the way you looked at the philosophical background of the show, I do wish you'd given a little warning at the start that you'd be spoiling absolutely everything. People should at least give watching it themselves a try before watching the video if they're interested in this type of anime.
i just randomly did a search for reviews or essays on this anime, and i really can't believe how it's being received. seems everyone trips up over stuff that really doesn't matter, like 'the main female lead isn't that great". this anime is such a stand out story wise, it leaves you broken.
I agree that their system was not ethical or humane, but I like how the anime presented that it was one borne out of necessity due to the situation. "For the greater good", to keep part of society alive, they decided they had to sacrifice the rest of it. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on Babylon, as that's also a dark and philosophical anime, though more direct about it's topic.
It really is a show with a incredible premise and a fleshed-out world. Some very intriguing characters too. I want to love it but the inconsistent animation and writing hold it way back from it's full potential. Nice vid!
@@Reality-Distortion In a morally ambivalent story its good to not explain everything and still have questions and to know what we need. Because at the end the anime is encouraging questioning and thinking for yourself.
@@marocat4749 You're mixing themes with exploration of the setting that god wasted. I could've written my comment word for word the same regardless if the story was morally ambivalent or not. Meaning one has little to nothing to do with the other. The fact I'm pondering what could what could the other 3 factions be like brings exactly nothing to my perception of the narrative's messages and vice versa.
@@Reality-Distortion It has very much to do if a story lets you question what is going on, which we do, with the characters as they grow up. Thats what the story is about, learning about an ambivalent dark society and questioning things. And shin seki yori focuces on that. And that fractions if they dont have a role in the story they could be needless destracting from said themes. Honestly its like a history we never fully know because its not conserved. We get bits of it but a lot left out. Which might be the intent, being real that most history would be lost. And given ho the preserve a animal was treated, there was effort to erase it. which itself is interesting worldbuilding playing in th themes. The frustrating knowing what is lost due effort to erase history or lack of preserving. Which is real, dunno if the original author studies history or something similar. And you thought about it and engagesd with that what just isnt known there , that big world. That adds. Seriously the right kind of frustration can add a lot .And refusing to giving straight answers.
love your videos. I just watched From the New World and had to get another person's view on it. Cuz, this show.....is so incredibly complex and yet so bizarrely simple that I can't help but be enraptured by it. So thank you for your thoughts on the matter.
The moral would have worked so much better if Squealer and whatshisface weren't the only non-humans able to speak so clearly or have such human characteristics. It just made those few look like anomalies that were barely smart enough to manipulate the rest of their more animalistic tribe members. That and if we also saw the humans treating them much more unfairly, then their revolution would seem much more justified, but the worst interactions seem to be when the humans were defending themselves.
I definitely agree adding a few more humanized Monster Rats, or even other species that dropped hints at modified humans, could have gone a long way to backing Squealer's revolution and what it meant
I mean but having the Monster Rats not seem human is kinda the point of the brutality and tragedy of it all. They did that so death feedback (or death of shame) won't trigger because not only they don't even look human or seem to speak like humans anymore you eventually get to the point that even the history that they were once human is lost as well. Is like if we were to look into a animal from our current day and age and say they were once human many many years ago but were genetically changed. It might seem impossible to us since no way in hell they are humans but again that's kinda the point here. I think having more of them with human characteristics doesn't really benefit the story here, since the two we get is one (squealer) that had those in order for diplomacy and survivability and the other one kinda shows why his clan was so highly seem with humans, since he went to the lengths of having such human characteristics\behaviors in order keep the clan on top and with good terms with the humans. About the revolution, I'm not sure if saying he was smart enough to manipulate the rest because they are more animalistic is all there is to it. Squealer methods brought results and he had the winning weapon, a cantus user that can hurt and kill cantus users. Following him on his revolution is something much bigger then the differences between tribes and even inside tribes since said revolution would eradicate the biggest problem in their current world for their survival, humans. Not having to fear the gods that could decide on a whim that your entire tribe is now not worth being kept alive and deciding to annihilate it is something worth following Squealer for. Your tribe being in good terms with the humans was helpful but you needed to treat them like gods and to do whatever they ask basically. Did your tribe started having some advances in tactics and weapon besides very primitive sources that humans with cantus can solo easily? No amount of good relationship with humans will save you from being eradicated from the wrath of said gods. You could know about another tribe that has been in good terms with humans for years and then the other day they were completely eradicated without any good reason - if any reason is even given to you that would even dare to question gods. Honestly I think tribes destroying other instead of humans is a favor they earned with humans and that helped them get more weapons or soldier from the other tribe in order to try to eventually defeat the humans. But that would take way too long if not impossible since humans also kept a close eyes on what you were doing. There is a reason why Kiroumaru tribe ventured to Tokyo and had such huge losses in order to try to find a weapon from the past to kill humans. Squealer was the only chance the rats ever had to actually defeating the humans probably ever, thanks to the false minoshiro information and Maria and Mamoru's child.
I think its kinda the point. They mutated them so much to not feel like human, os theres no death feedback and Its relevant also for us watchers. Its a mirror to us also, you say these monster rats were not humanized enough, for us to feel empathy. But isnt that the point? They purposefully made us feel empathy to a village of people who assasinated their own children instead of the rats who were living in fear from the humans who could destroy their colonies. If you have sided with the humans, they have got you. Their fear of the fiend was enough for you to feel bad for the village when they were massacred. Even though, they genetically changed humans who had no cantus and killed their own children and erased their memories. But you didnt feel for the rats who had to look at the humans as gods and do their every bidding in fear of getting punished. While ironically, they all came from the same race and their only fault was, that they werent blessed with the dangerous ability of cantus, instead they were born as deformed rat humans, because of genetical engineering. I get it, there was more peace and order in the village, then in the past, when humans were waging wars, but at what cost. One could say North Korea has order and peace, but I am pretty sure not many on the internet would say they agree with a cruel propaganda full dictatory.
Damn, I dropped this anime a few weeks ago, and this video kinda makes me wish I hadn't. I honestly tried with it, and I love philosophical stories, but this one (mainly the because of the character) just couldn't keep me interested.
I dropped it myself and went back to it on the suggestion of someone else. The anime itself is average, but the ideas it brings up are worth considering. So, not as entertaining a watch, but with food for thought
I wonder why I get so bothered when my family tells their kids things that make humanity seem better than everything else on earth. Like how when someone made a passing comment on how humans are mammals like apes and such. My niece asked if we're animals like apes and she made this face like "ugh! We're people not animals!" This actually upset me enough to speak up. "We are animals. We breathe, eat, drink and s**t like every other thing on earth! The only difference is we're just smarter and self conscious. If not for our rules and laws, people would be running around killing each other way more than they do now. In fact humans are the worst animals because we are the only species that have wiped out other species, knowing that it would end their existence. The only reason those white rhinos are gone is cause they never learned to stand up right and shoot us with their own guns!" I actually said all that to them during a meal. I didn't even hesitate the moment she said that, setting me off on that humbling speech to her whole "we're superior" bull. Idk maybe it's just my nihilism acting up.
If that reassures her we are great apes?! Or visiting a chimpansee family in a zoo?! They behave very human and kids behave a lot like silly monkeys at times. We are. Duinno adults too, kid are just more unfiltered
@@marocat4749 what a coincidence! I call her 2 youngest daughters monkeys. Look up any video of a monkey going nuts (like the door monkey) and that's how her kids act. I've thrown bananas at them and it actually worked, hence the monkeys.
You're wrong. We are actually both. We are animalistic in our base lower self but have higher cognitive function to be more than just our base animalistic primal selves. It is important to be humble but this notion to be too realistic and say "we are just animals" is an insult to all we have accomplished as a race. The extreme would be arrogance over humbleness and think we are greater than lifeforms percieved to be lower than us because they can not speak in a advanced way. We have to acknowledge we are indeed special. Because we are, we are the culmination of everything that came before, but we would not be here without the plant, animal, mineral kindgom. We give credit to the notion we are animalistic with our nature but go beyond it and realize we are more than just that. Humanity has unlimited potential we can not discredit that we are more than our primal selves. You are right and your niece was also right. We have the concept to realize we are different that we are not just animals while recognizing that is how we started.
@@sourcesymbiosismetamorphis2228 Nah, no matter how advanced you are you can't change your origin point, humans are STILL animals they are still the worst one regardless.
I feel like this anime proves that both sides have good reasons to commit terrible atrocities and this is a issue because this is like how certain religions or ethnic groups kill eachother and the only people that are bad are the leaders of each side like how the ethnics group commits homocide and kill children and how the monster rats kill the humans all these leaders incite violence and war claiming their the better person such hitler inciting violence against Jews and causing the citizens of Germany to attack them or a terrorist organization influencing a country and we act like a certain political party or a religious organization or a ethnic group is less than human and deserves worse treatment then those groups rise up and oppress the other ones and it goes back and forth treating us less than we are and so forth justifying genocide and oppression. This anime reflects the biggest problem of our society and world
All Squealer did was show the humans how it feels to have a colony wiped out by a PK user. How many civilian monster rats have been exterminated by humans when they've decided to wipe out a colony?
Its amazing analysis of the show... I wish there were more... Unfortunately no one could go further Then episode 8😂... Still one of the most philosophical Anime show That I saw...
It's a show I could list tons of (what I think would be) improvements to, but the core idea of it is something I wouldn't lay a finger on. More series should go for a similar idea
The manga is so much better as the motives for why characters behave in a certain way makes more sense with more build up to it. The anime failed to explain or develop the characters properly. Shun is a good example. In the anime he is just a natural born genius from start to finish thereby his send off is less impactful and I don't understand why saki would grow so attached to him In the manga however shun becomes who he is to become through his experience with everyone else. The manga even gave saki and shun more time together during their summer time camp (anime replaced him with satoru) making his end and what he showed saki much more wholesome due to a promised he made with saki when they were still kids. The anime completely gutted this part making shuns end very choppy and awkward. To add to this shun is critical to the development of saki as she lived way pass into adulthood and it was due to her realising that maturing means moving pass her childhood (wonderful memory of shun) and accepting new experience (her growth with satoru) that she becomes a well developed character that is meaningful for the reader to finish off the series on. The anime only showed all of saki's flaws but not her maturity making her look like the sakura of naruto..... Unless from start to finish.
I can't say this anime blew me away. The whole reveal of humans all along massacring ratman villages is just kind of dropped on us, despite following this setting for over 24 episodes, we've never seen a sign of them being tyrannical. If anything, we spent half of the anime on watching humanity's system being a danger to themselves. The reveal of ratman's chromosome count being identical to humans honestly leaves me dry if it was supposed to be a recontextualizing revelation. If being an intelligent being capable of experiencing emotions and pain wasn't enough of a factor for them to perceive them as equals but some chromosome count is then... I really don't know what to say to them. They're treating it like they just opened their eyes thanks to this but to me it tells they are just as clueless about their own ethics as they always have been. "We humans are the evil ones all along" is imo done much better in several other series so the ending didn't land all that much for me. Themes aside, this story generally has a lot of wasted potential and one pretty glaring plot hole that reduced it to "just good" level for me. The lore drop in episode 4 made the setting so big and intriguing but they've never used even half of it. Goukis or 3 other human factions never came into play. The main cast is fine but I can't say much about any of them individually. Can't really mention any particularly memorable side one. I might be tripping due to how random info drops were about Maria and Mamoru being actually dead as well as their child being the "Akki". So clear up if I got it wrong. They said that they did DNA tests and checked their toothing which is a very solid confirmation. For that I take that Squeler must've lied and never delivered fake skeletons as he promised and really took their corpses. But they supposedly had a child. That would mean that at bare minimum there was 9 months gap between Satoru and Saki coming back to the village and Squeler delivering the bodies to the Board of Education. Which doesn't make any sense. All it took for them to stop the chase was to take a word of 2 children, the most unreliable source they could have due to them being biased to save their friends and potentially lie, to stop the chase and not question them at all for at the very least 9 months? Tomiko Asahina struggled to keep them at bay for 3 days and even that didn't stop them completely within these 3 days based on the tracks.
They could also have manipulated mamoru and told him Maria is missing when she's about to deliver. He goes looking for her, child gets born. Then they tell Maria mamoru is missing which they kept hidden from her this entire time. She goes looking for him. Child is then indoctrinated, and those two killed using bombs or guns while in their confused state looking for each other. Mystery solved.
@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER You didn't solve anything. Why would I complain about Mamoru and Maria's way death not being explained? The problem is that the village council, for whatever reason, agreed to wait for bare minimum 9 months, assuming Mamoru and Maria banged right after leaving. So in other words, their literal BOSS tells them to hold off for 3 days and they ignore it but some rats tell them to wait months (if not years) and they're fine with that? Where's logic in that?
@@Reality-Distortion Now that still remains a plot hole. I was merely explaining how they could be eliminated so easily even though they had powers. That is more serious of a plot hole in my mind than the waiting period.
@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER Drugs? We saw what he did to the queens and ther were probably drugs involved, he might be able tocontrol them if he can drug them. That seriously could thm beeing drugged an held in a state that make them controllable.
@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER We don't really know if any pursuers were send to chase after them. Nobody explicitly said so, but the whole village is build on lies, so the possibility is there. What we do know that it happened during an harsh winter, so the fact that the bodies are found after a couple of months, after all the snow is gone etc is not too suspicious. To close this plot hole squeeler would need to be able to hide Mamoru and Maria for a few months against said hypothetical search-troops, which is not too far fetched considering how well squeeler played the humans and how blatantly ignorant they act. A more sinister solution would be considering that the killed children does not get any graves or memorial sides, which opens the question what happens to their remains. Considering how careful they try to cover up their own genocide, and which roles they give the rats, its actually not too far fetched to assume that some of the highest regarded tribes are "permitted" to decompose the childrens bodies. If Squeeler was to already strategically plan to attack the humans, him having some of the remains would be a great asset. That would certainly been an interesting aspect to portray. In either case, in my opinion this plot-hole is not detrimental to the message of the animes story. It rather opens up space for speculation.
It reminds me of the Solarians in Asimov's «Foundation and Earth», an ultraconservative and isolationist society composed of hermaphrodite, psychokinetic individuals capable of self-reproduction and never meet each other, arguably even more powerful than the power users in «From the New World», but ultimately vulnerable to outsiders, like a galaxy-spanning empire, or an extragalatic alien invasion.
How in the world is Shinsekai Yori "ultraconservative" and how is a society that's "composed" of hermaphrodites "ultraconservative"? You should really consider looking up buzzwords before using them if you feel the urgent need to sum up huge complex stories with a judging word that has 100 different meanings for 100 different people.
@@candide1065 Having virtually no social change for centuries is more than enough for a society to become ultraconservative, as are the cases in these two works.
Edit: if you're interested in people with psycho kinetic abilities suddenly breaking society, I suggest you look into literature on psykers from the 40K universe. Very similar. I was hooked pretty hard when they encountered the national assembly library robot as kids. Then I knew this anime was real shit and not some fapbait neet gooner trash like most modern series.
This is one of those one's I'd probably like a lot more reading it? All that world building would have somewhere to be used more, where it wasn't as much here
Just to put this comment here, what had happened in history, it will come to pass again. As, there is one big thing that is never looked after carefully: sin
Same here in China, even as the left-right issues are quite different in China from most other countries. It seems that this show can act as a good left-right discriminator regardless of particularities in political culture.
It was a major pain in the first, but if they showed the story of the guys before they had the killing response it would be much better and be like tokyo ghoul. Any way the ending was very good
You should apply a more marxist analysis to this show. Analyse it from a class war perspective instead, of the subjugated and abused labourers of the queerats vs the extremely small number of humans who live well by abusing and exploiting their labour. The justification of the queerats as a lower race is the same justification of the bourgeoisie as "better" that fascism uses to justify putting the boot on the neck of the proletariat. It is a master race and enslaved labourers analogy that can only be analysed correctly by understanding fascism is the logical endpoint of the mistakes of capitalism as a system. Their system has different roots of course, built in a materialist way, but the economics of class war within their system are the same as they are in the real world.
Thats all fair. To defend myself somewhat though, I like to take broad approaches to such things, because I don't have the time to research the true wealth of information I would need to to get into such specifics, while maintaining a schedule to succeed on the platform. I stay broad out of respect for topics, as odd as it may sound. But I believe there's a value in introducing aspects of concepts, to encourage individual though and research. As a limited person, thats most of my goal here. But don't get me wrong, if I could put that time in rest assured, I would have extremely harsh words for our society's class systems
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I don’t think this anime has pacing issue. It’s based off a horror novel. Not a manga or light novel, but a horror novel from a legit novelist. That’s what makes this anime great. It’s complex and mature.
I agree it has a lot of complexity, I just think some sections are longer than they needed to be, while others are shorter
@@ProfessorViral I definitely felt the last episodes had pacing issues. Some scenes barely mentioned something, then one second later, a sudden jump straight into that thing made it hard to follow what was happening.
it’s my favorite anime of all time, and one of my favorite stories in general, without a doubt, and i get excited just thinking about it, especially how it handles its themes and its boldness in direction. but it definitely has pacing issues. it lingers on certain scenes and ideas for too long and quickly jumps past others. it still has some of my favorite world building of all time, but it’s not the cleanest adaptation possible, that’s for sure. it’s pretty ugly on the outside, but it’s so deep and rich and meaningful if you dig beneath the muck
that explains why it reminded me of 1984 and brave new world
This anime hits on so many great philosophical points. Wish it had more of a following.
I really enjoyed the series, but I think it's just obscure enough with its point, which for me was the selling point, that its flaws get noticed more. Not confusing like Ergo Proxy, but requiring more of a "read" than most
@@ProfessorViral the animation strangeness and the sexual tone of episode 5 & 6(when saki and sataruo are running from the monster rats after having Power taken by the Monk) really throw off a lot of people.
But if people accept Neon Genesis so much and it has such a cult following despite(and because of) its flaws, why doesn't/didn't this show? interesting what the world as a group decides to enjoy.
Im happy somebody recommended it to me otherwise i might have never known about it.
@@morsumbra9692 Presentation, Evangelion uses a more pleasant medium and symbolism that is more active in catching the audience attention. SSY on the other hand uses a slower and more deceptive way of extracting the reaction it wants. Because of that EVA can be enjoyed even for only it's parts, while SSY recquires it's whole to be enjoyed and understood, it's both a con and a pro as because of that EVA struggles to convey it's own message and misses the point by not being fully optimal to it's goal, while SSY works for maximum effects but ends making an uphill battle to solve the mysteries
Shinsekai yori has a major problem with it's info dumps and lack of show don't tell, but other than that i see the story as a 10/10
The animation is inconsistence, but the art is extremely good and unique.
the characters are kind of meh, but they also only need to be normal people, which they are.
that along with it's great directing and music, in my mind still makes it a high 8 or low 9/10.
great video, I just wanted to put this out there
Tbf, I think it does that due to being adapted from a novel and attempting to stay very faithful to it.
I'm glad that there are people finally analyzing Shinsekai Yori, because it was one of my favorite anime, when I initially saw it on crunchyroll in 2012. The concept of a man so overburdened with power that he might unwillingly destroy the people that he loves and cares for is so fascinating and terrifying to me-as well as the looming threat of a council of unquestionable authority who are capable of ejecting the very memory of people who they deem unfit to exist in current society granted power to act with absolute impunity.
I couldn't care less about the pacing issues and the subpar animation. You just don't get stories this compelling every day, you know?
Great food for thought. Shin Sekai Yori really broke me when I watched it... Guess I'm ready to be broken again.
If I hadn't been more put of by the worse elements I mentioned, I think this one could have broken me at the end for sure. But, I'm also a snob and from the second they were mentioned I was hoping the story would have that twist with the monster rats, so I kind of prepared myself for it, I guess
SPOILER ALERT
I can never be able to get over the whole Squeeler plot. If the story was by his own POV, we would had the tipical distopic narrative with the same old tropes and cliches. But how we see everything by the eyes of the humans, we started the anime giving little to non shit about the rat-people situation and even desiring their deaths. It's heartbreaking to me when the show reavel that these rat-people are actually people that suffered biological engeniring to look like rats only to be submited by the will of the new human race.
When Squeeler says "I'M HUMAN" and everybody laughs and then he receive the capital punishment for his crimes, I felt it....
The “humanity” we are dealing with is killing itself whether slowly or abruptly. There will eventually be a new great Rat to stand up to this failed and abusive society or a fluke that kills off whatever “Gods” are left. The leak of Rat’s legitimate humanity is beginning spread by the time of Squealer’s punishing. Either way, the old humans they tried to cleanse from existence will rise again.
Yeh, also the adults in the city dispose of children, which is disgusting, but as the story goes, both the maincast and the watcher starts to just accept it and then we are sorry when the village is massacred by the messiah. I guess the maincast is forced to accept, but my point stands.
We feel less empathy towards the rats, because of how they look, how their language is different, we see them as inferior even though we know Its wrong for them to be discriminated against, we kinda side with the humans.
What the fiend did to the village is horrible, but I'd say that tragedy and the fear of it happening again is not a good enough reason for what the humans are doing in the village. Their fear was so big, but so was their arrogance, they only feared of fiends and karma demons, but at the end even, if with the help of a human, the rats almost wiped them out. I'd say they had it coming for them.
I am pretty sure squaler didnt just blurt the human part out randomly. They probably found out the truth from the fake minoshiro.
Sounds like Palestine
@@magicmarcell was waiting for this comment. All I could think were the parallels with the effects of Zionism and Imperialism on Palestine and the entire world
I haven’t watched the video yet, but I have to say when I first watched this show it was a pain to go from each episode to the next, I constantly wanted to drop it throughout, although what was happening was interesting it wasn’t engaging and I was worried it was gonna be a waste of my time, but my god the ending was so good immediately I felt everything I watched had been worth it, it was so satisfying how suddenly in the last episode I realized I had just watched an amazing story. I don’t plan on ever watching it again or at least not anytime soon since it *was* a pain to watch, but maybe I will if I ever start forgetting what happened in it because it’s a story I don’t wanna forget
It is odd how its a slog up until the final episode, which hist exactly everyone point it needed to to make the thematic elements feel amazing, despite it being technically weaker
I found the series hard to follow at first. Information didn't directly click about the new human culture and concepts. What kept me watching was my intrigue for the monsterrats. They are very strange yet their culture evolves and starts to mimic human history. I think Squealer is a very interesting character. He seems a villain and a hero at the same time.
I loved this show, the beginning was good to get through, mostly the middle part was very slow. The ending was god-tier though, it absolutely blew my mind. It's my second favourite show after Higurashi, an equally bleak and depressing show, would love to see you make a video about that one as well 😬
You literally stole my words . In horror category this anime is only second to higurashi no nako Koro ni
@@sebastianpolo6271 At this point, for me at least, these two take up spots number 1 and 2 in anime overall, not just horror. Though they are both equally, for different reasons, hard to recommend to different people.
You mistaken maria's child for fiend. The child was raised by rats and thought of itself as rat thos killing humans had no effect on it. It is different from fiend which is why he/she died after killing one of rats by mistake
My mistake! I think the points still stand, it's an annoying mislabel on my part though
@@ProfessorViral Thanks for replying I watched it recently so it was still fresh in my memory.
I never watched the anime but read the novel its based on.
And i can 100% say that this is a novel everyone should read. It asks many many difficult questions and many of them are relevant in our reality as well. It truly makes you question who the actual villains are and who are the victims. Its a literal orwelian dystopian sh*t type. Its like 1984 but on steroids. Even those yuri and yaoi parts are actually there to shove it down our throat just how suffocating this society was made to be. Its disgusting, uncomfortable and something everyone should see in their life. Its just that good imo. Its not supposed to be like most other animes which you just watch/read for fun, its something you watch/read with seriousness to truly understand what is happening and contemplate the seriousness of its plot and world.
Its just something everyone should watch to question what true justice and morality is atleast once.
I don't get the yuri/yaoi part. How exactly was it necessary to "shove it down our throat"?
@@candide1065 umm what do you mean? Children are almost forced to do them. Thats how it was showing us how dystopian their society was. It adds an extra layer to that.
PsychoPass and From the New World started airing around the same time. I remember back then, every week looking forward to new episodes from both to drop. It was a joyful time.
"morals" just make us feel better and make it so society doesn't fall apart. who are we to say what is or isn't human - in other words, what does matter and what doesn't, who's allowed to hurt who, what's acceptable and what's not? what's decent or what's too far? we can call a human worth more than a leaf of a plant, but that's just our own value system. say it's under the universe, we are all the same
And just because he's a human,
a man would like a little bite to eat;
he wants no bull and a lot of talk
that gives no bread or meat.
And just because he's a human,
he doesn't like a pistol to his head.
He wants no servants under him,
and no boss over his head.
And just because he's a worker,
no class can free him but his own.
The emancipation of the working class
is the task of the worker alone.
Its a rough anime but still worth it if you can look past it. Great discussion.
Thank you!
We missuse "humane" as meaning "civil". Violence is a natural behavior for homo sapiens, although not acceptable in a civil society.
idk i watched the anime in 3 days. and yes i binged from episode 11 to 25 lol. Was just so good i couldnt stop. And i really dont get some of the complaints that some people have. I have to say i really like the art style. It fits the show and the vibe really good. Pacing idk didnt read the novel but felt good to me. And the last complaint i heard was the characters being hollow or something like this. And idk yea they arent the deepest characters, but still they are cool. I dont think they need to be the most philosophically complex characters. Especially in this world where the world already does that job. Also for most of the show they are kids. Like you cant expect kids to be debaiting wheather killing some rats is bad. They learned that those are just some rats and that it is morraly okay. That is all they know. So yea idk if i missed something but those where most of the complains i heard that anoyed me a bit as they partly didnt make sense to me.
oh and also i binged it so fast because it was so intresting in my opinion. I just saw a comment about it feeling like a drag, but idk I think it was one of the most binge worthy shows (exept taht it emotionaly destroyed me lol) that i have watched in a while.
I agree 100%, well said
Shinsekai yori so underated and hated on for some of most trivial reasons. I think does well job diving in the depths humans,society and though a tragic tell it a yet hopeful one. Does well judge presenting the false utopia as well and I love sako development as respectful female character I truly have no qualms with her unlike many female protagonist I love girl power must just don't cut it or seems forced often ends disappointing me.
I meant saki no sako that was mistype
Great video man, this anime was one of the darkest and bleakest of all time, with suffering and discrimination, a twisted form of morality and deconstructing the rot of an society that mirror the worst of dystopian literature.
Although AOT has dealt with similar theme shinsekai yori raw and unflinching visuals of the human race (short of being misanthropic at times, can't blame them imo) make me enjoy it a bit more no matter how controversial that statement was.
The brutal visuals were for sure one of the strongest aspects. I always think of the "hero shot" of them literally exploding the heads of their enemies, and it's normalized, even celebrated. Those lay such a strong ground for what the series is saying
This is why I love anime. This really got me thinking and explored a crazy concept. Love the vid❤️
shinsekai yori did amazing in what it tried to do
I can somewhat agree, I think the areas where it really felt like it was focusing on it did very well
@@ProfessorViral yup, it have really impacted me or so i belive
I usually dislike fantasy, dystopian post-apocalyptic settings, coming of age tales, mutant creatures, superpowers and wars...but this anime used these tropes like Neon Genesis Evangelion did back then with other genres, to deconstruct them all and deny the nerd audience any form of naïve comfortable escapism, by turning it all into unsettling situations, if not plainly horror, with plenty of cliffhangers and twists up to the very end.
The ending of the story backs that up pretty literally; only the antagonist gets comfort, and then it's only the comfort of being release from the worst pain anyone has ever known eternally
I loved this video, but I also loved the show, and definitely did not find it "average". It's definitely not for everyone, but depending on what you're looking for I think the weaknesses can easily be overlooked. So while your analysis is great and I really enjoyed the way you looked at the philosophical background of the show, I do wish you'd given a little warning at the start that you'd be spoiling absolutely everything. People should at least give watching it themselves a try before watching the video if they're interested in this type of anime.
SSY is a 10/10 masterpiece and if you disagree you are wrong.
i just randomly did a search for reviews or essays on this anime, and i really can't believe how it's being received. seems everyone trips up over stuff that really doesn't matter, like 'the main female lead isn't that great". this anime is such a stand out story wise, it leaves you broken.
it relies way too much on info dumps and the animatiom is not the best...
still a 9/10. but with the info dumps specially i can never call it a 10.
I agree that their system was not ethical or humane, but I like how the anime presented that it was one borne out of necessity due to the situation. "For the greater good", to keep part of society alive, they decided they had to sacrifice the rest of it. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on Babylon, as that's also a dark and philosophical anime, though more direct about it's topic.
You should talk about Children of the Whale, the Promised Neverland, or Vampire Garden.
I do have two videos on the Promised Neverland!
ruclips.net/video/QgSEnOVSPRs/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/JJLA2asVF0Y/видео.html
It really is a show with a incredible premise and a fleshed-out world. Some very intriguing characters too. I want to love it but the inconsistent animation and writing hold it way back from it's full potential. Nice vid!
They did do a lot of work in building the world, which is probably part of what helped to keep it up, despite its issues. Thank you!
Fleshed out world? We didn't even see the other 3 human factions or any Goukis.
@@Reality-Distortion In a morally ambivalent story its good to not explain everything and still have questions and to know what we need.
Because at the end the anime is encouraging questioning and thinking for yourself.
@@marocat4749 You're mixing themes with exploration of the setting that god wasted. I could've written my comment word for word the same regardless if the story was morally ambivalent or not. Meaning one has little to nothing to do with the other. The fact I'm pondering what could what could the other 3 factions be like brings exactly nothing to my perception of the narrative's messages and vice versa.
@@Reality-Distortion It has very much to do if a story lets you question what is going on, which we do, with the characters as they grow up.
Thats what the story is about, learning about an ambivalent dark society and questioning things. And shin seki yori focuces on that. And that fractions if they dont have a role in the story they could be needless destracting from said themes.
Honestly its like a history we never fully know because its not conserved. We get bits of it but a lot left out. Which might be the intent, being real that most history would be lost. And given ho the preserve a animal was treated, there was effort to erase it.
which itself is interesting worldbuilding playing in th themes. The frustrating knowing what is lost due effort to erase history or lack of preserving. Which is real, dunno if the original author studies history or something similar.
And you thought about it and engagesd with that what just isnt known there , that big world. That adds. Seriously the right kind of frustration can add a lot .And refusing to giving straight answers.
Just found your channel. Love your editing and explanation of an anime i hold near and dear. Looking forward to checking out more of your content!
Thank you, happy I could provide!
love your videos. I just watched From the New World and had to get another person's view on it. Cuz, this show.....is so incredibly complex and yet so bizarrely simple that I can't help but be enraptured by it. So thank you for your thoughts on the matter.
The moral would have worked so much better if Squealer and whatshisface weren't the only non-humans able to speak so clearly or have such human characteristics. It just made those few look like anomalies that were barely smart enough to manipulate the rest of their more animalistic tribe members. That and if we also saw the humans treating them much more unfairly, then their revolution would seem much more justified, but the worst interactions seem to be when the humans were defending themselves.
I definitely agree adding a few more humanized Monster Rats, or even other species that dropped hints at modified humans, could have gone a long way to backing Squealer's revolution and what it meant
I mean but having the Monster Rats not seem human is kinda the point of the brutality and tragedy of it all. They did that so death feedback (or death of shame) won't trigger because not only they don't even look human or seem to speak like humans anymore you eventually get to the point that even the history that they were once human is lost as well. Is like if we were to look into a animal from our current day and age and say they were once human many many years ago but were genetically changed. It might seem impossible to us since no way in hell they are humans but again that's kinda the point here.
I think having more of them with human characteristics doesn't really benefit the story here, since the two we get is one (squealer) that had those in order for diplomacy and survivability and the other one kinda shows why his clan was so highly seem with humans, since he went to the lengths of having such human characteristics\behaviors in order keep the clan on top and with good terms with the humans.
About the revolution, I'm not sure if saying he was smart enough to manipulate the rest because they are more animalistic is all there is to it. Squealer methods brought results and he had the winning weapon, a cantus user that can hurt and kill cantus users. Following him on his revolution is something much bigger then the differences between tribes and even inside tribes since said revolution would eradicate the biggest problem in their current world for their survival, humans. Not having to fear the gods that could decide on a whim that your entire tribe is now not worth being kept alive and deciding to annihilate it is something worth following Squealer for.
Your tribe being in good terms with the humans was helpful but you needed to treat them like gods and to do whatever they ask basically. Did your tribe started having some advances in tactics and weapon besides very primitive sources that humans with cantus can solo easily? No amount of good relationship with humans will save you from being eradicated from the wrath of said gods. You could know about another tribe that has been in good terms with humans for years and then the other day they were completely eradicated without any good reason - if any reason is even given to you that would even dare to question gods.
Honestly I think tribes destroying other instead of humans is a favor they earned with humans and that helped them get more weapons or soldier from the other tribe in order to try to eventually defeat the humans. But that would take way too long if not impossible since humans also kept a close eyes on what you were doing. There is a reason why Kiroumaru tribe ventured to Tokyo and had such huge losses in order to try to find a weapon from the past to kill humans. Squealer was the only chance the rats ever had to actually defeating the humans probably ever, thanks to the false minoshiro information and Maria and Mamoru's child.
I think its kinda the point. They mutated them so much to not feel like human, os theres no death feedback and Its relevant also for us watchers. Its a mirror to us also, you say these monster rats were not humanized enough, for us to feel empathy. But isnt that the point? They purposefully made us feel empathy to a village of people who assasinated their own children instead of the rats who were living in fear from the humans who could destroy their colonies. If you have sided with the humans, they have got you.
Their fear of the fiend was enough for you to feel bad for the village when they were massacred. Even though, they genetically changed humans who had no cantus and killed their own children and erased their memories.
But you didnt feel for the rats who had to look at the humans as gods and do their every bidding in fear of getting punished. While ironically, they all came from the same race and their only fault was, that they werent blessed with the dangerous ability of cantus, instead they were born as deformed rat humans, because of genetical engineering.
I get it, there was more peace and order in the village, then in the past, when humans were waging wars, but at what cost. One could say North Korea has order and peace, but I am pretty sure not many on the internet would say they agree with a cruel propaganda full dictatory.
Damn, I dropped this anime a few weeks ago, and this video kinda makes me wish I hadn't. I honestly tried with it, and I love philosophical stories, but this one (mainly the because of the character) just couldn't keep me interested.
I dropped it myself and went back to it on the suggestion of someone else. The anime itself is average, but the ideas it brings up are worth considering. So, not as entertaining a watch, but with food for thought
@@ProfessorViral I see. In that case, I'll probably just use this video to get my fix of what I wanted from the show then. Thanks for making it.
The action is really high in the last third.
I nearly dropped it three times. A friend had to keep insisting it would be worth it. And he was right in my case.
I wonder why I get so bothered when my family tells their kids things that make humanity seem better than everything else on earth. Like how when someone made a passing comment on how humans are mammals like apes and such. My niece asked if we're animals like apes and she made this face like "ugh! We're people not animals!"
This actually upset me enough to speak up.
"We are animals. We breathe, eat, drink and s**t like every other thing on earth! The only difference is we're just smarter and self conscious. If not for our rules and laws, people would be running around killing each other way more than they do now. In fact humans are the worst animals because we are the only species that have wiped out other species, knowing that it would end their existence. The only reason those white rhinos are gone is cause they never learned to stand up right and shoot us with their own guns!"
I actually said all that to them during a meal. I didn't even hesitate the moment she said that, setting me off on that humbling speech to her whole "we're superior" bull.
Idk maybe it's just my nihilism acting up.
If that reassures her we are great apes?!
Or visiting a chimpansee family in a zoo?! They behave very human and kids behave a lot like silly monkeys at times. We are. Duinno adults too, kid are just more unfiltered
@@marocat4749 what a coincidence! I call her 2 youngest daughters monkeys. Look up any video of a monkey going nuts (like the door monkey) and that's how her kids act. I've thrown bananas at them and it actually worked, hence the monkeys.
You're wrong. We are actually both. We are animalistic in our base lower self but have higher cognitive function to be more than just our base animalistic primal selves. It is important to be humble but this notion to be too realistic and say "we are just animals" is an insult to all we have accomplished as a race. The extreme would be arrogance over humbleness and think we are greater than lifeforms percieved to be lower than us because they can not speak in a advanced way. We have to acknowledge we are indeed special. Because we are, we are the culmination of everything that came before, but we would not be here without the plant, animal, mineral kindgom. We give credit to the notion we are animalistic with our nature but go beyond it and realize we are more than just that. Humanity has unlimited potential we can not discredit that we are more than our primal selves. You are right and your niece was also right. We have the concept to realize we are different that we are not just animals while recognizing that is how we started.
@@sourcesymbiosismetamorphis2228 ...good point.
@@sourcesymbiosismetamorphis2228 Nah, no matter how advanced you are you can't change your origin point, humans are STILL animals they are still the worst one regardless.
Am I Human？ or am i a rat all along？
I feel like this anime proves that both sides have good reasons to commit terrible atrocities and this is a issue because this is like how certain religions or ethnic groups kill eachother and the only people that are bad are the leaders of each side like how the ethnics group commits homocide and kill children and how the monster rats kill the humans all these leaders incite violence and war claiming their the better person such hitler inciting violence against Jews and causing the citizens of Germany to attack them or a terrorist organization influencing a country and we act like a certain political party or a religious organization or a ethnic group is less than human and deserves worse treatment then those groups rise up and oppress the other ones and it goes back and forth treating us less than we are and so forth justifying genocide and oppression. This anime reflects the biggest problem of our society and world
And not to mention how
They change rules to justify killing kids and saying they are not human yet, sound familiar
I am here... just to leave this... 🫒I am happy younger me watched this series in 2012. Now re-watching the series to understand it thoroughly.
you should do more death note wikihow like Near Matt and Beyond Birthday. I even looked on wikihow and they have them
I left a comment saying something really simmuler on the "how it be like L from death note wikihow" video
I actually love making those, but they never do quite well enough to justify them sadly
# Squealer did nothing wrong
Homura and then Squealer, apparently I'm finding the "did nothing wrong" topics right now haha
He did, but he was justified, and right.
All Squealer did was show the humans how it feels to have a colony wiped out by a PK user. How many civilian monster rats have been exterminated by humans when they've decided to wipe out a colony?
Its amazing analysis of the show... I wish there were more... Unfortunately no one could go further Then episode 8😂... Still one of the most philosophical Anime show That I saw...
It's a show I could list tons of (what I think would be) improvements to, but the core idea of it is something I wouldn't lay a finger on. More series should go for a similar idea
こんにちは。
これは日本の公営放送で放送されたｱﾆﾒで、当時私は小学生くらいで観ました。
幼かったのでよくわからないまま観てたけど、最終回はとても印象に残ってる。今の時代は、遺伝子への介入も人間だけではなく、植物や動物にも行われていて、改めて怖いなと思いました。
「新世界より」のテーマソングがとても合っていたと思います。
私は英語ができないので、いつかあなたの感想を翻訳で知りたいです(*'▽')
squealer did nothing wrong
I agree 😭
I think shinsekai yori is perfect, pacing and all lol
Hey, thats fair, we all have our picks!
i want to know what happen to the world outside japan.
Can You Talk About Kaitou Joker?
The manga is so much better as the motives for why characters behave in a certain way makes more sense with more build up to it.
The anime failed to explain or develop the characters properly.
Shun is a good example. In the anime he is just a natural born genius from start to finish thereby his send off is less impactful and I don't understand why saki would grow so attached to him
In the manga however shun becomes who he is to become through his experience with everyone else. The manga even gave saki and shun more time together during their summer time camp (anime replaced him with satoru) making his end and what he showed saki much more wholesome due to a promised he made with saki when they were still kids. The anime completely gutted this part making shuns end very choppy and awkward.
To add to this shun is critical to the development of saki as she lived way pass into adulthood and it was due to her realising that maturing means moving pass her childhood (wonderful memory of shun) and accepting new experience (her growth with satoru) that she becomes a well developed character that is meaningful for the reader to finish off the series on. The anime only showed all of saki's flaws but not her maturity making her look like the sakura of naruto..... Unless from start to finish.
this is definitely far from a perfect anime, riddled with flaws in characters, pacing and plot issues, but it felt so strangely realistic to me
What is you top anime? I am curious after watching some of your videos.
I found you top anime video. That answers my question. 😁
Beat me to my own job 🤣
I can't say this anime blew me away. The whole reveal of humans all along massacring ratman villages is just kind of dropped on us, despite following this setting for over 24 episodes, we've never seen a sign of them being tyrannical. If anything, we spent half of the anime on watching humanity's system being a danger to themselves. The reveal of ratman's chromosome count being identical to humans honestly leaves me dry if it was supposed to be a recontextualizing revelation. If being an intelligent being capable of experiencing emotions and pain wasn't enough of a factor for them to perceive them as equals but some chromosome count is then... I really don't know what to say to them. They're treating it like they just opened their eyes thanks to this but to me it tells they are just as clueless about their own ethics as they always have been. "We humans are the evil ones all along" is imo done much better in several other series so the ending didn't land all that much for me.
Themes aside, this story generally has a lot of wasted potential and one pretty glaring plot hole that reduced it to "just good" level for me.
The lore drop in episode 4 made the setting so big and intriguing but they've never used even half of it. Goukis or 3 other human factions never came into play. The main cast is fine but I can't say much about any of them individually. Can't really mention any particularly memorable side one.
I might be tripping due to how random info drops were about Maria and Mamoru being actually dead as well as their child being the "Akki". So clear up if I got it wrong. They said that they did DNA tests and checked their toothing which is a very solid confirmation. For that I take that Squeler must've lied and never delivered fake skeletons as he promised and really took their corpses. But they supposedly had a child. That would mean that at bare minimum there was 9 months gap between Satoru and Saki coming back to the village and Squeler delivering the bodies to the Board of Education. Which doesn't make any sense. All it took for them to stop the chase was to take a word of 2 children, the most unreliable source they could have due to them being biased to save their friends and potentially lie, to stop the chase and not question them at all for at the very least 9 months? Tomiko Asahina struggled to keep them at bay for 3 days and even that didn't stop them completely within these 3 days based on the tracks.
They could also have manipulated mamoru and told him Maria is missing when she's about to deliver. He goes looking for her, child gets born. Then they tell Maria mamoru is missing which they kept hidden from her this entire time. She goes looking for him. Child is then indoctrinated, and those two killed using bombs or guns while in their confused state looking for each other. Mystery solved.
@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER You didn't solve anything. Why would I complain about Mamoru and Maria's way death not being explained?
The problem is that the village council, for whatever reason, agreed to wait for bare minimum 9 months, assuming Mamoru and Maria banged right after leaving.
So in other words, their literal BOSS tells them to hold off for 3 days and they ignore it but some rats tell them to wait months (if not years) and they're fine with that? Where's logic in that?
@@Reality-Distortion Now that still remains a plot hole. I was merely explaining how they could be eliminated so easily even though they had powers. That is more serious of a plot hole in my mind than the waiting period.
@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER Drugs? We saw what he did to the queens and ther were probably drugs involved, he might be able tocontrol them if he can drug them. That seriously could thm beeing drugged an held in a state that make them controllable.
@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER We don't really know if any pursuers were send to chase after them. Nobody explicitly said so, but the whole village is build on lies, so the possibility is there. What we do know that it happened during an harsh winter, so the fact that the bodies are found after a couple of months, after all the snow is gone etc is not too suspicious.
To close this plot hole squeeler would need to be able to hide Mamoru and Maria for a few months against said hypothetical search-troops, which is not too far fetched considering how well squeeler played the humans and how blatantly ignorant they act.
A more sinister solution would be considering that the killed children does not get any graves or memorial sides, which opens the question what happens to their remains. Considering how careful they try to cover up their own genocide, and which roles they give the rats, its actually not too far fetched to assume that some of the highest regarded tribes are "permitted" to decompose the childrens bodies. If Squeeler was to already strategically plan to attack the humans, him having some of the remains would be a great asset. That would certainly been an interesting aspect to portray.
In either case, in my opinion this plot-hole is not detrimental to the message of the animes story. It rather opens up space for speculation.
It reminds me of the Solarians in Asimov's «Foundation and Earth», an ultraconservative and isolationist society composed of hermaphrodite, psychokinetic individuals capable of self-reproduction and never meet each other, arguably even more powerful than the power users in «From the New World», but ultimately vulnerable to outsiders, like a galaxy-spanning empire, or an extragalatic alien invasion.
How in the world is Shinsekai Yori "ultraconservative" and how is a society that's "composed" of hermaphrodites "ultraconservative"? You should really consider looking up buzzwords before using them if you feel the urgent need to sum up huge complex stories with a judging word that has 100 different meanings for 100 different people.
@@candide1065 Having virtually no social change for centuries is more than enough for a society to become ultraconservative, as are the cases in these two works.
Edit: if you're interested in people with psycho kinetic abilities suddenly breaking society, I suggest you look into literature on psykers from the 40K universe. Very similar. I was hooked pretty hard when they encountered the national assembly library robot as kids. Then I knew this anime was real shit and not some fapbait neet gooner trash like most modern series.
29:20 So true.
I need the novel 😭
This is one of those one's I'd probably like a lot more reading it? All that world building would have somewhere to be used more, where it wasn't as much here
Great anime 10/10,wont watch again.pain to watch
I probably should rewatch it some day, if only to try and take in more info from the absolute exposition dumps haha
Just to put this comment here, what had happened in history, it will come to pass again. As, there is one big thing that is never looked after carefully: sin
the new anime sonny boy has really similar vide to this, but is not so gory and sad
Sonny Boy was a great one, I made a few videos on it!
My leftist friends consider the monster rats to be human. However my right wing friends don't see them as humans.
Same here in China, even as the left-right issues are quite different in China from most other countries. It seems that this show can act as a good left-right discriminator regardless of particularities in political culture.
phenomenal anime👽👻
can anyone spoil the story for me
Too much people subconsciously believe human = good 🤣
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It was a major pain in the first, but if they showed the story of the guys before they had the killing response it would be much better and be like tokyo ghoul.
Any way the ending was very good
it's not about that tho
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You should apply a more marxist analysis to this show. Analyse it from a class war perspective instead, of the subjugated and abused labourers of the queerats vs the extremely small number of humans who live well by abusing and exploiting their labour. The justification of the queerats as a lower race is the same justification of the bourgeoisie as "better" that fascism uses to justify putting the boot on the neck of the proletariat. It is a master race and enslaved labourers analogy that can only be analysed correctly by understanding fascism is the logical endpoint of the mistakes of capitalism as a system. Their system has different roots of course, built in a materialist way, but the economics of class war within their system are the same as they are in the real world.
Thats all fair. To defend myself somewhat though, I like to take broad approaches to such things, because I don't have the time to research the true wealth of information I would need to to get into such specifics, while maintaining a schedule to succeed on the platform. I stay broad out of respect for topics, as odd as it may sound. But I believe there's a value in introducing aspects of concepts, to encourage individual though and research. As a limited person, thats most of my goal here. But don't get me wrong, if I could put that time in rest assured, I would have extremely harsh words for our society's class systems