Great image and effective editing. I like editing that accentuates what is in the image but also communicates how the photographer saw the image -- an interpretive element, I guess. I really like these videos, and I learn a lot about street photography and post-processing. Thanks!
Lightroom isn’t quite accurate enough in terms of tonal range, so in more complex edits, I’ll finish the work in photoshop with a 16bit TIFF as it’s very accurate. I’ll also work in the sRGB colour space as that’s what my printer prefers. In a fully controlled editing environment, you can see quite a difference between the image in LR and the TIFF in PS.
I get you with the hip shooting technique, it's not something that I do often. But, I was up briefly in London (in the very area of your video) on Saturday. Whilst I was there, I spent most of my time purposefully shooting from the hip to practise that skill more. I find there are times where either I can't get the camera up to my eye quick enough for something that has just appeared or because I actually want a lower angle. Hip shooting is just another tool in the box, as you say.
Absolutely. I am constantly amazed at how narrow-minded some photographers are. It’s a technique. One of many we use in photography. But for some people, it offends their purist outlook on photography. 🙄
@@WalkLikeAlice I expect they are getting confused between using the technique in a so-called ‘cowardly’ was versus genuine use cases. It’s actually a tricky technique to master for, I usually point the camera an inch too low!
Jeff, based in Scotland I am predominantly a landscape and astrophotographer (I used to do weddings when I was at university and for about a decade after, and I love photographing in a documentary style also) so I enjoyed watching your editing style here. You have always been a big inspiration to me; most weddings I shot I had a 35 1.4/85 prime lens and not much more. I'm interested in your position on black point specifically for files you display on the internet. Do you like to adjust the RGB curve in order to have some black point fade, effectively softening the deepness of the blacks (in B&W or colour images), or do you modify your approach on an image basis? What did you do in this image? When I first started out I was always crushing blacks because I actually liked and still do like that for some images. Others I am modifying the curve much more (for 'traditional' style landscape photography) if I feel the image requires it. I am a guy that often prefers a high white point as it gives an image a punch - I notice this in a lot of your work.
Thanks for your comments. Everything is done on a per image basis and is judged by eye in a colour and light balance environment. For critical work, I’ll also check everything while soft proofing but this isn’t necessary for RUclips, Instagram etc. Hope this helps.
@WalkLikeAlice it does thanks. So would you ever intentionally clip and block the blacks (or bring them very close to it) in a print / for screen image or is that a big no no for you?
while i do understand the breakdown of the image and why you like it, my preference would have been to go in closer and higher up, but then again i like to shoot more portrait style :)
For me, If I was closer I would have lost where the image was taken and several compositional elements too. The curve on the left of the image, the buildings across the street. There is also an increased risk of appearing in the reflection. She would have also noticed me walking towards her and that would have changed the shot. But it does show how we are all different in our approaches, and that has to be a good thing.
Cracking capture and edit, did you give any thoughts to cloning out the office light reflection top left corner. You removed one with the crop, but one still remains. Great channel by the way 👍
Thanks Paul. I mentioned this in an earlier comment. It doesn’t bother me and it seems to be more noticeable on RUclips than in photoshop. I wouldn’t clone it out though. It would have to be taken down in editing.
I never knew people would flex over holding a camera to your eye to get a shot...but then again I think the best photographers of the human experience are just ghosts. Great frame, and once again it makes me want to trade my beloved M240 for the M9M.
Thank you. I think the M240 is a terrific camera. One of my students went to an M11 from an M240. During one particular session, we were looking at the files and it wasn’t even a contest. The M240 files were so much better. Fantastic highlight retention and a really nice feel to them. The M11 looked like a Sony. If I didn’t have the M9M, I would have the M246 Monochrom.
I don’t get the persons comment about not shooting from the hip. I still try and practice shooting from the hip. Sometimes I hit, other times I miss, but I find the angle has that element of making the subject more important in the frame, something film makers do in order to establish a characters importance in a scene. That’s my two cents anyway! Great picture!
There are a lot of comments on RUclips that I don’t get. There are a lot of photography snobs who get offended very easily. Some people are just jealous. Others have issues. Either way, they are sent to test anyone with a channel on RUclips.
I think I read that a famous female artist once said: "Paintings are like people. You either like them or you don't." Whether she really said that or not, I don't know, but I do like your photo of this girl in Starbucks. I liked it even before you altered it with Lightroom (?). Have you ever thought to do a video titled: "What do great paintings and great photographs have in common?"?
Not really as we aren’t into paintings and classical art. The only paintings we own are original abstract pieces. Movies are more our thing when it comes to visual inspiration outside of photography. We have around 1000 of them on blu-ray/DVD.
@@WalkLikeAlice , that's interesting. Cartier-Bresson thought of photography as "instant paintings." Evidently you don't see a connection between paintings and photography.
Jeff. Which mouse do you use for editing. I have been using a Wacom tablet for years now, but lately there are so many glitches I want to change over to a mouse again
@WalkLikeAlice Maybe, but we follow you because we value you, how you think, and how you do things. I am buying one today. Would have been awesome to see how you use it. I have been using Lightroom for years now, and have watched many tutorials, but watching you edit taught me a lot already.
Really like the photo of the week. Always interesting and educational to see how you get to the final image.
Glad you are enjoying the series.
Great image and effective editing. I like editing that accentuates what is in the image but also communicates how the photographer saw the image -- an interpretive element, I guess. I really like these videos, and I learn a lot about street photography and post-processing. Thanks!
Thank you for watching. Glad you like the videos.
Love this image along with the edit!
Thank you 🙏🙏
Another fabulous video. This is such a great shot. ..keep em coming ..cheers
Thank you so much 🙏
About this comment on the beginning, in my hummble opinion, shooting from the hip delivers a better POV than shooting at eye level.
Awesome teaching. Thanks.
Hello Jeff,
Another good video, thank you...
Take care.
Paul,,
Thanks for watching, Paul. See you on the next one. 🙂
Very informative video, thanks for the hard work you put into it
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this shot
Thank you 🙏
Great edit Jeff, as for shooting from the hip I am with you on that and wonder why anyone would have a problem with it.
Some people have a problem with everything we do. It’s the joy of RUclips I guess.
Great work! Just wondering why the finishing touches had to be done in photoshop?
Lightroom isn’t quite accurate enough in terms of tonal range, so in more complex edits, I’ll finish the work in photoshop with a 16bit TIFF as it’s very accurate. I’ll also work in the sRGB colour space as that’s what my printer prefers. In a fully controlled editing environment, you can see quite a difference between the image in LR and the TIFF in PS.
Awesome! Thank you!
🙏
some of my favorite shots that i have are created in a starbucks or with the subject holding a starbucks coffee LOL
Starbucks was invented for photographers 😂
@@WalkLikeAlice so true!
nice, personally I would have cropped the pillar out, but the rest of it is very good
Why?
I get you with the hip shooting technique, it's not something that I do often. But, I was up briefly in London (in the very area of your video) on Saturday. Whilst I was there, I spent most of my time purposefully shooting from the hip to practise that skill more. I find there are times where either I can't get the camera up to my eye quick enough for something that has just appeared or because I actually want a lower angle. Hip shooting is just another tool in the box, as you say.
Absolutely. I am constantly amazed at how narrow-minded some photographers are. It’s a technique. One of many we use in photography. But for some people, it offends their purist outlook on photography. 🙄
@@WalkLikeAlice I expect they are getting confused between using the technique in a so-called ‘cowardly’ was versus genuine use cases. It’s actually a tricky technique to master for, I usually point the camera an inch too low!
Jeff, based in Scotland I am predominantly a landscape and astrophotographer (I used to do weddings when I was at university and for about a decade after, and I love photographing in a documentary style also) so I enjoyed watching your editing style here. You have always been a big inspiration to me; most weddings I shot I had a 35 1.4/85 prime lens and not much more. I'm interested in your position on black point specifically for files you display on the internet. Do you like to adjust the RGB curve in order to have some black point fade, effectively softening the deepness of the blacks (in B&W or colour images), or do you modify your approach on an image basis? What did you do in this image? When I first started out I was always crushing blacks because I actually liked and still do like that for some images. Others I am modifying the curve much more (for 'traditional' style landscape photography) if I feel the image requires it. I am a guy that often prefers a high white point as it gives an image a punch - I notice this in a lot of your work.
Thanks for your comments. Everything is done on a per image basis and is judged by eye in a colour and light balance environment. For critical work, I’ll also check everything while soft proofing but this isn’t necessary for RUclips, Instagram etc.
Hope this helps.
@WalkLikeAlice it does thanks. So would you ever intentionally clip and block the blacks (or bring them very close to it) in a print / for screen image or is that a big no no for you?
while i do understand the breakdown of the image and why you like it, my preference would have been to go in closer and higher up, but then again i like to shoot more portrait style :)
For me, If I was closer I would have lost where the image was taken and several compositional elements too. The curve on the left of the image, the buildings across the street. There is also an increased risk of appearing in the reflection. She would have also noticed me walking towards her and that would have changed the shot. But it does show how we are all different in our approaches, and that has to be a good thing.
Cracking capture and edit, did you give any thoughts to cloning out the office light reflection top left corner. You removed one with the crop, but one still remains.
Great channel by the way 👍
Thanks Paul. I mentioned this in an earlier comment. It doesn’t bother me and it seems to be more noticeable on RUclips than in photoshop. I wouldn’t clone it out though. It would have to be taken down in editing.
I never knew people would flex over holding a camera to your eye to get a shot...but then again I think the best photographers of the human experience are just ghosts. Great frame, and once again it makes me want to trade my beloved M240 for the M9M.
Thank you. I think the M240 is a terrific camera. One of my students went to an M11 from an M240. During one particular session, we were looking at the files and it wasn’t even a contest. The M240 files were so much better. Fantastic highlight retention and a really nice feel to them. The M11 looked like a Sony. If I didn’t have the M9M, I would have the M246 Monochrom.
I don’t get the persons comment about not shooting from the hip. I still try and practice shooting from the hip. Sometimes I hit, other times I miss, but I find the angle has that element of making the subject more important in the frame, something film makers do in order to establish a characters importance in a scene. That’s my two cents anyway! Great picture!
There are a lot of comments on RUclips that I don’t get. There are a lot of photography snobs who get offended very easily. Some people are just jealous. Others have issues. Either way, they are sent to test anyone with a channel on RUclips.
I think I read that a famous female artist once said: "Paintings are like people. You either like them or you don't." Whether she really said that or not, I don't know, but I do like your photo of this girl in Starbucks. I liked it even before you altered it with Lightroom (?). Have you ever thought to do a video titled: "What do great paintings and great photographs have in common?"?
Not really as we aren’t into paintings and classical art. The only paintings we own are original abstract pieces. Movies are more our thing when it comes to visual inspiration outside of photography. We have around 1000 of them on blu-ray/DVD.
@@WalkLikeAlice , that's interesting. Cartier-Bresson thought of photography as "instant paintings." Evidently you don't see a connection between paintings and photography.
Jeff. Which mouse do you use for editing. I have been using a Wacom tablet for years now, but lately there are so many glitches I want to change over to a mouse again
Logitech G502 Hero
@@WalkLikeAlice What about a video on how you use it? 🫠
Haha. There are plenty of those on RUclips already.
@WalkLikeAlice Maybe, but we follow you because we value you, how you think, and how you do things. I am buying one today. Would have been awesome to see how you use it. I have been using Lightroom for years now, and have watched many tutorials, but watching you edit taught me a lot already.
"On the wonk" I know what your saying there buddy lol
Would have been nice to have caught the pedestrian in full stride. Otherwise it's a keeper. Really enjoy your content.
Nice to see the editing process, but for me too much of changes.
That’s how I like to edit my images. Interpretation, getting a feeling of what I saw in my head at the time.