I think he does. Because he has been involved in this for a long time. He understands that Israel has had all the power. Agreed that October 7 was a massacre but it still is resistance towards the occupier rather than 'terrorism' as we are told constantly
I watched an Israeli created documentary posted on YT called, "The Gaza Ghetto Uprising". He compared 10/7 to the "Sobibor" and Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, with Sobibor being more close to the 10/7 event. I thought this documentary was full of info, especially helpful to share with the less informed. For those like me that have a better understanding of what was going on prior to 10/7, it was still helpful because he spent more time focusing on the resistance. He broke down the factions, the various tactics employed by resistance fighters and Israel's ineffective counterinsurgency doctrines. I hadn't heard of the movie "Sobibor" until I watched this documentary. I thought it was a fairly good analogy. Since then, I've been referring to 10/7 as the Palestinian Sobibor.
@@sarahpengelly8439we don’t have enough evidence what happened on Oct 7th, how it was allowed to happen and actually was behind the attack. Could be inside job to take over Qaza. Hamas did kill people but the IOF killed a lot of people as well Hannibal directive to make it a big massacre so they can justify clearing Qaza in the pretence of killing Hamas.
Is that the Apartheid that has Muslims making up to 40 percent of the young doctors in Israel, how about the CEO of their top bank , who happens to be a Muslim, how about the Muslim Supreme Court Judge to sent to prison two former Israeli PMs. Or the Muslims in the army and the police, and the Muslims who get free uni education. so this apartheid, can you explain it to me
@@williammohan9784 How are the Arabs represented in the electorate? Israel is a state for zionists only; the whole project depends on them having the 'democratic' majority. If Palestine had been given democracy in 1917 it would be 95% Arabs in government - but this wasn't the plan, they had to evict the Arabs; deny them rights.
@@williammohan9784How about the periodical "mowings of the lawn", the inability of Palestinian to enter and exit their homes through the door welded shut by the Israelis so families go in and out their own homes (not any more, since there are no homes left) through windows? How about shootings the unarmed civilians on their own territory, women, children, the disabled in their wheelchairs, during the peaceful March of Return? If you're familiar with Haruki Murakami you possibly heard or read his speech in Jerusalem, in which he said that "where there's an all powerful wall and an egg smashing against it, no matter how right the wall and how wrong the egg, I will always stand with the egg". Similarly, as Marek Edelman had said, "To be a Jew is to stand with the oppressed, never the oppressors". Murakami's was a nice hyperbole, but of course the wall was not right and the egg was not wrong - something he, as a guest, had to be careful not to mention.
@@calicocat8213 yeah whatever Hamas boy, so tell me how long did it take to clean you sheets when you watched the go pro footage of October 7th. I bet you had a forearm like Popeyes for a few days after that
He opens with “the brutality unleashed on Oct 7th was beyond any imagination”. He only need look at the brutality unleashed on the occupied peoples for decades, to extend his imagination…
He is partly right, who knew Israel was now so insane they called the hannibal and murdered hundreds of Israeli's, foreign workers and students with IDF hell fire missiles and tanks.
He is speaking about the two sides like those are equal in any comparison. Palestine has been oppressed for 77 years by the illegally created occupation called izrhell. There is no 'our soil' for jews not in Palestine, nor anywhere else. It's a stateless nation. Sorry for assaulting the term 'nation'.
You're correct. It's preposterous to think that based on a "3000 year old" mythology that "Palestine is Israel's 'homeland'" is more righteous than Palestinians' right to their own property owned and operated for generations before 1947. If we're to buy into that, we might as well order the Americans to give their land back to the indigenous and accept their rule, no matter how abusive. And the indigenous Americans have far more claim based on recent historical evidence. The Jews were historically a "wandering tribe." That they occasionally settled in a certain place in the ME is a romantic artifact, just as the Palestinian claim of THEIR right to "holy places" is the same. Again, that both tribes worship there is a romance best left to collaboration, not exclusion.
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported (not all have ages listed) ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc Even with being very very generous in extending the "civilian" nomenclature to those that are reservists. Not to mention ignoring the fact that the majority of the attacks were done in by their own forces inorder to prevent their capture, it is still incomparable to what was done in prior years. In the Tantura (2022) documentary there is a iTf man who says that they took a pregnant woman, made bets whether the baby is a boy or a girl, disemboweled and cut her stomach open to check who won, another one talking about school children who were raising their the hands, the same way kids do in a classroom, after he rounded them up. He then kept firing. Both laughing merrily and casually at the recollection. In another documentary '1948: Creation & Catastrophe', a survivor speaks about women getting violated infront of their family members by iTf. She was a child at the time and still wept as an elderly woman. For more recent atrocities, "Breaking the Silence" record statements by the iTf themselves, they recount the events witht he same casualty their forebears do. The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 , in other words 6 million deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan. More on the Oded Yinon plan - According to the founding father of zionism, theodore hertzel, the area of the jewish state stretches from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates; the promised land extends from the river of Egypt up to the Euphrates and includes parts of Syria and Lebanon; when viewed in the current context including the siege on Gaza the zionist plan for the middle east bears an intimate relationship to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the 2006 war in Lebanon, the 2011 war on Libya and Syria and the continued crisis in Iraq and Yemen, not to mention the political crisis in the kingdom of saudi Arabia. In the 1980s an article written by a former senior official with the israeli foreign ministry in which israel shahak wrote a forward to which says "in my opinion the accurate and detailed plan of the present zionist regime of ariel sharon for the middle east which is based on the division of the whole area into small states and the dissolution of all the existing Arab states."
@@StopTechnocracy You just have to listen to a lot of moral people who try very hard to do the best they can by keeping us informed. I judge who is moral and decide for myself.
7 october was justified period. And honestly i'm surprised the resistance waited for decades to do this.. Peaceful path doesn't work, we saw that in 2018, then Sheikh Jarah came after.. mileikowsky never wanted a "2 states solution" since the early 80's to be honest..
The zio occupied Palestine not to make life of the indigenous Palestinians better. Occupation doesn't work that way. Occupation is meant to destroy the native communities and erase the memory of them. That's wat izrhell is doing. Stop Holocaust on Palestinians 🇵🇸
The Palestinians have been having millions of October 7 in their land since the creation of the Cancer of west Asia. Now put the blame on October 7. Shame on Arabs and Muslims for not standing with the Muslims and christians of kan3an and Lubnan. Bless u oh Yemeni people.
The idea of someone like Netanyahu thinking or saying "well how long can they have a grudge against us for the forced displacement?" Well 1,954 years is the current record for someone holding a grudge over being moved from their homeland.
these white jew arent even the real Middle east jew... they are from eastern european Countries.. they are thieves and robbbers, not welcomed by all countries.. their genetics arent even similar..
16:00 "No Apartheid constitution"?Eretz Israel is an Apartheid state, as defined by le'om/ezrahut, which in South Africa was called "race classification".
7th October was beyond any imagination? Have you Ambassador ever thought of what Palestinians have gone through since 1948? How many pogroms? How many massacres? How many dead? Why is it that Israel gets shocked at the death of Israelis but not of Palestinians since 1948?
"O Allah, we ask You for peace and security for all the peoples of the world. 🌍🕊 O Allah, unite the hearts of leaders 🤝❤ and inspire them with wisdom and justice in their decisions. 🧠⚖🙏💔🌪 Amen." ✨🙏
NETANYAHU is and always was the Achilles heel for Israel, hes a total LIABILITY an individual totaly detached from reality, Isrl will now loose big because of his crazy insane gamble.
Netanyahu, like Donald Trump, was inevitable. Authoritarian regimes, albeit under the pretense of "democracy," are bound to come to a head with the most extreme form emerging. The only question is how much damage will they be allowed to wreak before they are reformed. And the reform must be deep and lasting.
Biblical? No way! Listen to Rashid Khalidi recent interview or get his book “100 years’ of war on Palestine”. He believes the biblical aspect is just a red herring.
Especially if one is aware the "Founder Fathers" like Theodor Herzl or Vladimir Jabotinsky were secular - euphemism for atheist, and the Zionist Project could have just as well been realized in Argentine, what is today's Uganda, or Australia.
Thank you both for this incredibly important interview. I was very impressed at the honesty of the ambassador. I say that because the current Israeli government communicates only propaganda, hate and determination to annihilate the Palestinians.😢 Everything the ambassador said obviously comes from a great deal of experience and an open mind and a sense of humanity and a true desire for peace. ❤ I absolutely agree that all people should have dignity and self-determination within their own countries. That is something Israel is not even willing to think about because they don't consider the Palestinians to be human!😠 That type of racism has no place in a modern world. All human beings deserve the same rights. I'm so grateful to hear a voice of reason from somebody who was an integral part of the Israeli government at one time. I completely understand his decision to part ways. How can a person with decency and empathy work within a government that has no intention of doing anything different and intends to continue to dominate, oppress and annihilate the Palestinians?! 😢 Israel is in an apartheid state and I was glad to hear the ambassador admit that. Israel doesn't want peace. Actions speak louder than words. Netanyahu is a narcissistic pathological liar and will say anything to stay in power and stay out of prison. He and his government disseminates misinformation to his own country and the world. But that is nothing new. There is at least one generation that has been thoroughly brainwashed to despise the Palestinians and it is a disgrace beyond belief. So, it's even more important to hear a qualified voice of reason.❤ Thank you both very much for taking the time to discuss the ambassador's point of view. I greatly respect his honesty and integrity. I am a Jewish American and I am horrified and furious to see what the Israeli military has done to the Palestinian people of Gaza and their entire infrastructure. It is shocking, horrifying, barbaric and utterly inexcusable.😢
Some People in position have character..thats why he resigned..Remember he was a diplomatic representing his Genocide Netanyahu in 2011...now the reasons he left are evident ..not that the world didnt know...now Rogue Netanyahu has taken it to another level
Equal rights. As long as you dread to utter this, Israel will never ever have peace. Not only that, Not giving Palestinians equal rights is an existential threat to you and Israel as a state. If you want to keep Israel, you have to give them equal rights. Stop all these colonial words like "containment", us vs them, "our land" etc .. Equal rights is the key to everything, you can't go half way. You are no better than Palestinians, you are equal.
Mr. Former Ambassador, The coexistence prevails when the conversation reaches to the sword to the sword. Unfortunately That’s your language - the power determines your share of the land.
Mr. Ambassador, You see the contradiction in Netanyahu speech in 2009 with the reality exists today if we believe Oct 7 was a holocaust. Read “There are those who say that if the Holocaust had not occurred, the state of Israel would never have been established. But I say that if the state of Israel would have been established earlier, the Holocaust would not have occured.” If Isr has experienced Hamas rockets, Pls also experienced being massacred after removing PLO, preemptive attacks to the neighboring Arab countries. You don’t have a good record either. They have every reason not to trust Isr and be disarmed.
Netanyahu made Israel's response purposefully devestating in order to create that divide between Palestinians and Israelis. By generating excessive hate from Palestinians in response to the devestation Israel caused, it could drive the wedge between Israel and Palestine further, making both the one state and the two state solution impossible and undesired. This way Netanyahu could say 'see I told you all we cannot live with or beside the Palestinians.
He claimed that he wanted a two-state solution and said Hamas attacked Israel's territory, surely that is not what the UN gave Israel in 1948 if anyone asks him do you want to go back to the UN partition? he will definitely say no.
He makes some good points but I think he underestimates the strength of the resistance. Many others have a complete different opinion on the military power of Iran.
symbolic Pls recognition was done in Oslo. All over again! Who do you think Pls are Mr. Ambassador! after dealing with a generation of 20% without limbs, no parents, and starved. Have Shame for even saying this word !!!!!!!
“Ruined”? If not for 10-7-23, the Abraham Accord would have gone forward and the Palestinians would die on the vine over time. They had to act. In truth, Israel’s war crimes preceded October 7 by decades and decades, including the dispossession from the Palestinians of “Israeli soil” by terror. Start the book from the beginning, not chapter 13.
I reject the notion that Judea & Samaria or Gaza is occupied territory per international law. The principle of uti posidetis juris determines the borders of a new country barring any other treaties addressing border. It says that the new state takes on the borders of the administrative entity that came before it, in Israel's case the British Mandate for Palestine, which included Judea & Samaria and Gaza. Therefore Israel's internationally recognized borders should have always included these territories, and the fact that the world doesn't do so is in direct contradiction of international law. It is, to my knowledge, the ONLY such case in the world. Why does this international law apply on Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, not to mention dozens of post-colonial South American countries, African countries and former Soviet Union countries, but UNIQUELY not on Israel? That said, I 100% agree that the Palestinians, like all people in the world including the Jews have the same right of self determination. I think Israel ceding land that is its own and always has been its own for peace is worth it if it actually delivers peace. But the problem is that so much of the Palestinian society and the Arab world refuses to accept Israel's right to exist and to allow a Palestinian state today would be suicide for Israel. When the Palestinians and Arabs and Muslims who refuse to accept Israel change their views and come to terms with Israel, even if reluctantly, then there will be a chance for peace. We've seen it with Egypt, with Jordan, with the UAE and Bahrain. But until such time, I see no hope for a peaceful future, in which case Israel MUST be the stronger, dominant force as it is the only democratic and free society in the region.
Does the fact that the British colonial mandate was just as cruel and abusive to Palestinians as Israel is now matter? Can we accept THOSE boundaries? I believe it's our moral duty to forge new courses in cases like that.
@@justpassingthrough...2492 I think that's kind of what-about argument that I generally don't think works. One wrong does not make another right. But the circumstances and legal status of the British Mandate are VERY different than today, as are so many other factors, so I'm not sure the comparison works very well in the first place. Context is crucial. For example, those excusing terrorism are doing so in the context of resistance to occupation. I reject the notion of occupation in the first place as explained in my comment, and I reject the notion that terrorism can EVER be put into any kind of legitimate context. I think there's a big difference between terrorism and armed resistance.
@@justpassingthrough...2492 How the Brits treated the local Arabs (I say Arabs for accuracy because back then they themselves identified as Arabs and not yet as Palestinians) has no impact on the conflict today. Are you aware that Israel actually treated Palestinians (and in many ways still does) better than other countries do? Most of the restrictions we see today are the result of Palestinian violence against Israel because they do not want Israel to exist. There were no travel restrictions until several years into the first intifada, Palestinians could freely travel all over the country and between Judea & Samaria (aka The West Bank) and Gaza. The vast majority of Palestinians worked in "Israel proper." Many legally, many illegally. Checkpoints started popping up more and more as terror attacks increased. The wall was built in response to a spate of suicide bombings (it worked, they stopped). I could go on about how most of Israel's actions were in RESPONSE to Palestinian violence. That isn't to say Israel's been perfect. Can we accept that the Palestinian's goals are the elimination of Israel? A genocide?
'Biblical'?? Maybe finally realize what the Bibel (etc.) is actually a story about! And how these 'sky people'/'powerful ones' are still manipulating humanity.
Watch the clip, the whole world opinions seeing and understand brought up by Hama jail break described by Prof Normsn Finskelstein, US jew historian and geno cide by isr with US help, would population is against and sick of discrimination of killing Gazan. Isr will have destroyed itself~ one US gov will abandon isr.
Why do you delete our posts?????? Let them read and understand how much pain they put on people’s mind just in the past year not mention the past 76 years. Either don’t interview or let them read our posts!
Bereshit 10 2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, ...3 And the sons of Gomer; *AshkeNazi* aka "jews." *Believe it or not, "Hebrews" aka Yisra'eyl (Devarim **28:15**-68) descend from Shem,* not Japheth.⌛
There's a huge gulf between Israel of the Bible and " The state of Israel 🇮🇱 " Matthew Nolan of Torah for the tribes podcast and David Sheen both break it down for anyone interested.
Since October 8 2023, Israel has established itself to be the pariah nation of the globe which includes "all" of the citizens who reside there. All of the people who have encouraged or done little to oppose this genocide. So, Israel is forever....and will be forever a pariah nation who will be snubbed, ostracized and boycotted throughout time immemorial. Just watch any independent news and/or citizen journalism if you think that's a false assessment.
He blames the breakdown on October 7, but of course he does not mention how horrible things were From 1948 through October 6, 2023
exactly he has selective memory
I think he does. Because he has been involved in this for a long time.
He understands that Israel has had all the power.
Agreed that October 7 was a massacre but it still is resistance towards the occupier rather than 'terrorism' as we are told constantly
I watched an Israeli created documentary posted on YT called, "The Gaza Ghetto Uprising". He compared 10/7 to the "Sobibor" and Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, with Sobibor being more close to the 10/7 event.
I thought this documentary was full of info, especially helpful to share with the less informed. For those like me that have a better understanding of what was going on prior to 10/7, it was still helpful because he spent more time focusing on the resistance. He broke down the factions, the various tactics employed by resistance fighters and Israel's ineffective counterinsurgency doctrines.
I hadn't heard of the movie "Sobibor" until I watched this documentary. I thought it was a fairly good analogy. Since then, I've been referring to 10/7 as the Palestinian Sobibor.
@@sarahpengelly8439we don’t have enough evidence what happened on Oct 7th, how it was allowed to happen and actually was behind the attack.
Could be inside job to take over Qaza.
Hamas did kill people but the IOF killed a lot of people as well Hannibal directive to make it a big massacre so they can justify clearing Qaza in the pretence of killing Hamas.
Zionist massacres on Arabs of Palestine pre mandate
1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Haifa Massacre 1938
4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1939
6. Haifa Massacre 1947
7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
It's not complicated. End apartheid and occupation. Then talk.
Is that the Apartheid that has Muslims making up to 40 percent of the young doctors in Israel, how about the CEO of their top bank , who happens to be a Muslim, how about the Muslim Supreme Court Judge to sent to prison two former Israeli PMs. Or the Muslims in the army and the police, and the Muslims who get free uni education. so this apartheid, can you explain it to me
@@williammohan9784 How are the Arabs represented in the electorate? Israel is a state for zionists only; the whole project depends on them having the 'democratic' majority. If Palestine had been given democracy in 1917 it would be 95% Arabs in government - but this wasn't the plan, they had to evict the Arabs; deny them rights.
@@williammohan9784How about the periodical "mowings of the lawn", the inability of Palestinian to enter and exit their homes through the door welded shut by the Israelis so families go in and out their own homes (not any more, since there are no homes left) through windows?
How about shootings the unarmed civilians on their own territory, women, children, the disabled in their wheelchairs, during the peaceful March of Return?
If you're familiar with Haruki Murakami you possibly heard or read his speech in Jerusalem, in which he said that "where there's an all powerful wall and an egg smashing against it, no matter how right the wall and how wrong the egg, I will always stand with the egg".
Similarly, as Marek Edelman had said, "To be a Jew is to stand with the oppressed, never the oppressors".
Murakami's was a nice hyperbole, but of course the wall was not right and the egg was not wrong - something he, as a guest, had to be careful not to mention.
@@calicocat8213 yeah whatever Hamas boy, so tell me how long did it take to clean you sheets when you watched the go pro footage of October 7th. I bet you had a forearm like Popeyes for a few days after that
@@williammohan9784You’re fool.
Ugh what a waste of time and skin. He sounds like a delusional US politician.
He opens with “the brutality unleashed on Oct 7th was beyond any imagination”.
He only need look at the brutality unleashed on the occupied peoples for decades, to extend his imagination…
He is partly right, who knew Israel was now so insane they called the hannibal and murdered hundreds of Israeli's, foreign workers and students with IDF hell fire missiles and tanks.
He is living in occupied territory and you expects him to feel for the Palestinians
Indeed, no one single person with morality will live on the occupied Palestinian land, soaked with Palestinian blood and tears.
There are Israelis who do feel for Palestinians, in fact the numbers of anti-Z Israelis is growing, thankfully.
If that's what you get from a peace activist in Israel, imagine what you get from the haters.
What is he doing in occupied East-Jerusalem!!! It is palestinian land!!!!
Exactly! My thought.
He doesn't live there
If he was honourable he would not be in occupied Palestine!
He is speaking about the two sides like those are equal in any comparison. Palestine has been oppressed for 77 years by the illegally created occupation called izrhell. There is no 'our soil' for jews not in Palestine, nor anywhere else. It's a stateless nation. Sorry for assaulting the term 'nation'.
Russia granted them a state in 1934 named Birobidjan.
You're correct. It's preposterous to think that based on a "3000 year old" mythology that "Palestine is Israel's 'homeland'" is more righteous than Palestinians' right to their own property owned and operated for generations before 1947. If we're to buy into that, we might as well order the Americans to give their land back to the indigenous and accept their rule, no matter how abusive. And the indigenous Americans have far more claim based on recent historical evidence. The Jews were historically a "wandering tribe." That they occasionally settled in a certain place in the ME is a romantic artifact, just as the Palestinian claim of THEIR right to "holy places" is the same. Again, that both tribes worship there is a romance best left to collaboration, not exclusion.
@@KateBates22zabuSoviet Jews only, and they kinda didn't like settling there - a bit picky though invariably complaining and never satisfied.
Jews are from judea, so it is their land
This diplomat is delusional
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported (not all have ages listed) ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
-Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023:
2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440.
2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255.
2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492.
2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300.
2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138.
2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30.
2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349.
2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191.
2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227.
civilian deaths on the other side -
2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9
2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26
Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel.
Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
Even with being very very generous in extending the "civilian" nomenclature to those that are reservists. Not to mention ignoring the fact that the majority of the attacks were done in by their own forces inorder to prevent their capture, it is still incomparable to what was done in prior years.
In the Tantura (2022) documentary there is a iTf man who says that they took a pregnant woman, made bets whether the baby is a boy or a girl, disemboweled and cut her stomach open to check who won, another one talking about school children who were raising their the hands, the same way kids do in a classroom, after he rounded them up. He then kept firing. Both laughing merrily and casually at the recollection. In another documentary '1948: Creation & Catastrophe', a survivor speaks about women getting violated infront of their family members by iTf. She was a child at the time and still wept as an elderly woman. For more recent atrocities, "Breaking the Silence" record statements by the iTf themselves, they recount the events witht he same casualty their forebears do.
The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 , in other words 6 million deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan.
More on the Oded Yinon plan - According to the founding father of zionism, theodore hertzel, the area of the jewish state stretches from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates; the promised land extends from the river of Egypt up to the Euphrates and includes parts of Syria and Lebanon; when viewed in the current context including the siege on Gaza the zionist plan for the middle east bears an intimate relationship to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the 2006 war in Lebanon, the 2011 war on Libya and Syria and the continued crisis in Iraq and Yemen, not to mention the political crisis in the kingdom of saudi Arabia.
In the 1980s an article written by a former senior official with the israeli foreign ministry in which israel shahak wrote a forward to which says "in my opinion the accurate and detailed plan of the present zionist regime of ariel sharon for the middle east which is based on the division of the whole area into small states and the dissolution of all the existing Arab states."
Thank you for sharing everything you wrote, it’s horrible but the truth and we must keep hearing as much as we can. We cannot be silent.
Is this in a document somewhere online we can access?
@@StopTechnocracy
You just have to listen to a lot of moral people who try very hard to do the best they can by keeping us informed. I judge who is moral and decide for myself.
When an izrhelli says: 'the truth must be said' - it makes me laugh, it's a good joke😂😂 TRUTH and izrael are non-intersecting lines
Honest and Israel don't go together
The seventh of october was true
@@mariocruz1717give over if you swallowed a nail it would come out the other end as a screw
7o years long before october 7th is way beyond imagination !
Get your pasport ready to leave the settlement for a start.
He totally discredited himself with his opening line, by puppeting the Oct 7th script. lsřąęIis cannot be trusted. Period.
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TRT completely wasted their time on this zionist tosser.
7 october was justified period.
And honestly i'm surprised the resistance waited for decades to do this..
Peaceful path doesn't work, we saw that in 2018, then Sheikh Jarah came after..
mileikowsky never wanted a "2 states solution" since the early 80's to be honest..
No not at all
The zio occupied Palestine not to make life of the indigenous Palestinians better. Occupation doesn't work that way. Occupation is meant to destroy the native communities and erase the memory of them. That's wat izrhell is doing. Stop Holocaust on Palestinians 🇵🇸
I think the concert .was preplanned
@@annadelgado3631 They moved the location closer to Gaza at the last moment.
The Palestinians have been having millions of October 7 in their land since the creation of the Cancer of west Asia. Now put the blame on October 7. Shame on Arabs and Muslims for not standing with the Muslims and christians of kan3an and Lubnan. Bless u oh Yemeni people.
Neonazis
i think you mean zion@zis... they have existed 2000 years before hitler
Judeo-Nazis, a term coined by professor Yeshayahu Leibowitz.
Couldn't trust him with telling me the time.
after all of those years protecting the country his family emigrated to, now he is sorry. oct7 of 1948 would be closer to the truth.
He is delusional on a fundamental level even as his humanity is trying to escape it is suffocated by decades of lies and delusions.
Even the most liberal Israeli struggles to with 100% integrity …. How can you be pancaking what is looking you in the eyes 😢😢😢😢
The idea of someone like Netanyahu thinking or saying "well how long can they have a grudge against us for the forced displacement?"
Well 1,954 years is the current record for someone holding a grudge over being moved from their homeland.
these white jew arent even the real Middle east jew... they are from eastern european Countries.. they are thieves and robbbers, not welcomed by all countries.. their genetics arent even similar..
Teşekkürler 🇹🇷🌹🌷🇵🇸❤️🇹🇷
The international law definition of apartheid does NOT require that apartheid be constitutionally defined for it to be apartheid!!!
The ship has sailed… and you are not on it!!
From the river to the sea
Why not horrified with what Israel has done since 1948
16:00 "No Apartheid constitution"?Eretz Israel is an Apartheid state, as defined by le'om/ezrahut, which in South Africa was called "race classification".
7th October was beyond any imagination? Have you Ambassador ever thought of what Palestinians have gone through since 1948? How many pogroms? How many massacres? How many dead? Why is it that Israel gets shocked at the death of Israelis but not of Palestinians since 1948?
Don't fall for these 2 faced tyrants.
Just from the first minute i can already tell he is doing that "the two sides are both" BS.
"O Allah, we ask You for peace and security for all the peoples of the world. 🌍🕊 O Allah, unite the hearts of leaders 🤝❤ and inspire them with wisdom and justice in their decisions. 🧠⚖🙏💔🌪 Amen." ✨🙏
Thank you for that prayer.
@@justpassingthrough...2492 🤍🕊🤲
First time I hear Israelis devastated by the events that followed October 7 th.
Great diplomat with conscious.
DEMON. UNALDULTERATED EVIL BEAST.
Anyone who condones what Israel is doing needs to look in a mirror,they will see something not human.
One day, all that you've sown will return, hungry to even the scales.
This conflict did not start on October 7 it started in 1917 and b4 possibly with the creation on Zionism with Theodore hertzule
NETANYAHU is and always was the Achilles heel for Israel, hes a total LIABILITY an individual totaly detached from reality, Isrl will now loose big because of his crazy insane gamble.
Netanyahu, like Donald Trump, was inevitable. Authoritarian regimes, albeit under the pretense of "democracy," are bound to come to a head with the most extreme form emerging. The only question is how much damage will they be allowed to wreak before they are reformed. And the reform must be deep and lasting.
@@justpassingthrough...2492 but he's come in and our of power every time with war that follows, how many times till Isrl learn
Biblical? No way! Listen to Rashid Khalidi recent interview or get his book “100 years’ of war on Palestine”. He believes the biblical aspect is just a red herring.
Especially if one is aware the "Founder Fathers" like Theodor Herzl or Vladimir Jabotinsky were secular - euphemism for atheist, and the Zionist Project could have just as well been realized in Argentine, what is today's Uganda, or Australia.
Isreail don't like talikng about being blamed on attack palastine
Thank you both for this incredibly important interview. I was very impressed at the honesty of the ambassador. I say that because the current Israeli government communicates only propaganda, hate and determination to annihilate the Palestinians.😢
Everything the ambassador said obviously comes from a great deal of experience and an open mind and a sense of humanity and a true desire for peace. ❤
I absolutely agree that all people should have dignity and self-determination within their own countries. That is something Israel is not even willing to think about because they don't consider the Palestinians to be human!😠
That type of racism has no place in a modern world. All human beings deserve the same rights. I'm so grateful to hear a voice of reason from somebody who was an integral part of the Israeli government at one time.
I completely understand his decision to part ways. How can a person with decency and empathy work within a government that has no intention of doing anything different and intends to continue to dominate, oppress and annihilate the Palestinians?! 😢
Israel is in an apartheid state and I was glad to hear the ambassador admit that. Israel doesn't want peace. Actions speak louder than words. Netanyahu is a narcissistic pathological liar and will say anything to stay in power and stay out of prison. He and his government disseminates misinformation to his own country and the world. But that is nothing new. There is at least one generation that has been thoroughly brainwashed to despise the Palestinians and it is a disgrace beyond belief.
So, it's even more important to hear a qualified voice of reason.❤
Thank you both very much for taking the time to discuss the ambassador's point of view. I greatly respect his honesty and integrity. I am a Jewish American and I am horrified and furious to see what the Israeli military has done to the Palestinian people of Gaza and their entire infrastructure. It is shocking, horrifying, barbaric and utterly inexcusable.😢
What a great man.
PHILISTIN
ALLAH HU AKBAR
VENGEANCE indeed.
No self defense tra la la
Great video
Some People in position have character..thats why he resigned..Remember he was a diplomatic representing his Genocide Netanyahu in 2011...now the reasons he left are evident ..not that the world didnt know...now Rogue Netanyahu has taken it to another level
The fact that he was diplomat to South Africa likely accelerated the process.
Their seat started warming like fire thats why
Equal rights. As long as you dread to utter this, Israel will never ever have peace. Not only that, Not giving Palestinians equal rights is an existential threat to you and Israel as a state. If you want to keep Israel, you have to give them equal rights. Stop all these colonial words like "containment", us vs them, "our land" etc .. Equal rights is the key to everything, you can't go half way. You are no better than Palestinians, you are equal.
Mr. Former Ambassador,
The coexistence prevails when the conversation reaches to the sword to the sword.
Unfortunately That’s your language - the power determines your share of the land.
Mr. Ambassador,
You see the contradiction in Netanyahu speech in 2009 with the reality exists today if we believe Oct 7 was a holocaust.
Read
“There are those who say that if the Holocaust had not occurred, the state of Israel would never have been established. But I say that if the state of Israel would have been established earlier, the Holocaust would not have occured.”
If Isr has experienced Hamas rockets, Pls also experienced being massacred after removing PLO, preemptive attacks to the neighboring Arab countries.
You don’t have a good record either. They have every reason not to trust Isr and be disarmed.
Interesting. The question of respect and rebalancing the power dynamics is fundamental. However he's probably right that it won't happen soon😢
Omg I can't continue just from the start. We lost everything after after October the 7…. Plzzzz
Netanyahu made Israel's response purposefully devestating in order to create that divide between Palestinians and Israelis. By generating excessive hate from Palestinians in response to the devestation Israel caused, it could drive the wedge between Israel and Palestine further, making both the one state and the two state solution impossible and undesired. This way Netanyahu could say 'see I told you all we cannot live with or beside the Palestinians.
"a conversation between the sword and the neck"
@SaveLebanonChildren
He claimed that he wanted a two-state solution and said Hamas attacked Israel's territory, surely that is not what the UN gave Israel in 1948 if anyone asks him do you want to go back to the UN partition? he will definitely say no.
If only there was a Turkish diplomat who couldnt defend the Armenian genocide and Erdogan and his persecution of the Kurds
Ambassador Baruch is a decent human being. I wish he was the prime minister of Israel.
Turkey pm Erdogan please help palistioni im Indian Muslim support palistioni😢
How must have the pales felt when going through hundreds and thousands of 7th of Octobers committed on them since 1948?
He makes some good points but I think he underestimates the strength of the resistance. Many others have a complete different opinion on the military power of Iran.
I agree about the use of power needs to be divorced in negoitiations
Free the Palestine people's everything will be OK both sides people's lives peace full life for ever Israel 🇮🇱 and 🇵🇸 people's ❤
More reasonable dignified peace relationship …. What it mean mor reasonable? And Beyond inimaginable… they have done worse than inimaginable crimes …
Sweet side of apartheid, but nevertheless apartheid
symbolic Pls recognition was done in Oslo. All over again!
Who do you think Pls are Mr. Ambassador! after dealing with a generation of 20% without limbs, no parents, and starved.
Have Shame for even saying this word !!!!!!!
Asalam walaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatu
“Ruined”? If not for 10-7-23, the Abraham Accord would have gone forward and the Palestinians would die on the vine over time. They had to act. In truth, Israel’s war crimes preceded October 7 by decades and decades, including the dispossession from the Palestinians of “Israeli soil” by terror. Start the book from the beginning, not chapter 13.
I reject the notion that Judea & Samaria or Gaza is occupied territory per international law. The principle of uti posidetis juris determines the borders of a new country barring any other treaties addressing border. It says that the new state takes on the borders of the administrative entity that came before it, in Israel's case the British Mandate for Palestine, which included Judea & Samaria and Gaza. Therefore Israel's internationally recognized borders should have always included these territories, and the fact that the world doesn't do so is in direct contradiction of international law. It is, to my knowledge, the ONLY such case in the world. Why does this international law apply on Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, not to mention dozens of post-colonial South American countries, African countries and former Soviet Union countries, but UNIQUELY not on Israel?
That said, I 100% agree that the Palestinians, like all people in the world including the Jews have the same right of self determination. I think Israel ceding land that is its own and always has been its own for peace is worth it if it actually delivers peace. But the problem is that so much of the Palestinian society and the Arab world refuses to accept Israel's right to exist and to allow a Palestinian state today would be suicide for Israel. When the Palestinians and Arabs and Muslims who refuse to accept Israel change their views and come to terms with Israel, even if reluctantly, then there will be a chance for peace. We've seen it with Egypt, with Jordan, with the UAE and Bahrain. But until such time, I see no hope for a peaceful future, in which case Israel MUST be the stronger, dominant force as it is the only democratic and free society in the region.
Does the fact that the British colonial mandate was just as cruel and abusive to Palestinians as Israel is now matter? Can we accept THOSE boundaries? I believe it's our moral duty to forge new courses in cases like that.
@@justpassingthrough...2492 I think that's kind of what-about argument that I generally don't think works. One wrong does not make another right. But the circumstances and legal status of the British Mandate are VERY different than today, as are so many other factors, so I'm not sure the comparison works very well in the first place.
Context is crucial. For example, those excusing terrorism are doing so in the context of resistance to occupation. I reject the notion of occupation in the first place as explained in my comment, and I reject the notion that terrorism can EVER be put into any kind of legitimate context. I think there's a big difference between terrorism and armed resistance.
@@justpassingthrough...2492 How the Brits treated the local Arabs (I say Arabs for accuracy because back then they themselves identified as Arabs and not yet as Palestinians) has no impact on the conflict today. Are you aware that Israel actually treated Palestinians (and in many ways still does) better than other countries do? Most of the restrictions we see today are the result of Palestinian violence against Israel because they do not want Israel to exist. There were no travel restrictions until several years into the first intifada, Palestinians could freely travel all over the country and between Judea & Samaria (aka The West Bank) and Gaza. The vast majority of Palestinians worked in "Israel proper." Many legally, many illegally. Checkpoints started popping up more and more as terror attacks increased. The wall was built in response to a spate of suicide bombings (it worked, they stopped). I could go on about how most of Israel's actions were in RESPONSE to Palestinian violence. That isn't to say Israel's been perfect.
Can we accept that the Palestinian's goals are the elimination of Israel? A genocide?
He just can’t say we are going to win and take all the land. Lol
Good. But i cant tell he is sincere.
'Biblical'?? Maybe finally realize what the Bibel (etc.) is actually a story about! And how these 'sky people'/'powerful ones' are still manipulating humanity.
How built hamas to start a war on Israel? Iran
Watch the clip, the whole world opinions seeing and understand brought up by Hama jail break described by Prof Normsn Finskelstein, US jew historian and geno cide by isr with US help, would population is against and sick of discrimination of killing Gazan. Isr will have destroyed itself~ one US gov will abandon isr.
Why do you delete our posts??????
Let them read and understand how much pain they put on people’s mind just in the past year not mention the past 76 years. Either don’t interview or let them read our posts!
I believe it was the Israeli president, himself, that said the Oct. 7th was their Sept. 11.. to some, that would speak volumes, as in, in-side-job?
Bereshit 10
2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, ...3 And the sons of Gomer; *AshkeNazi* aka "jews." *Believe it or not, "Hebrews" aka Yisra'eyl (Devarim **28:15**-68) descend from Shem,* not Japheth.⌛
There's a huge gulf between Israel of the Bible and " The state of Israel 🇮🇱 "
Matthew Nolan of Torah for the tribes podcast and David Sheen both break it down for anyone interested.
His brain washed mind hasn’t fully figured it out yet
What if you lose the war!!!
Circular reasoning!!!
NO HOPE!!!
Zio is a zio😅
Neden türkçe çeviri yok
Blah blah blah. Get out of Palestine.
Wonderful day to watch such amazing interview.
Hi the freedom lovers all the way from Africa nation 🙏🇮🇱👑❤
Buknur Laila
isn'treal is not a country
Todos los enemigos de Dios serán despedazados severamente por el Dios de Israel 🇮🇱 ✝️👑👈 porque está cerca el fin del mundo 🌍 el día del señor ✝️👑😭🌍⏰👈
Israel es Israel por los siglos de los siglos ✝️🇮🇱👈
Israel is the name of a prophet, not land.
They spit on chiristians and mock your religion, are you still blind?
Since October 8 2023, Israel has established itself to be the pariah nation of the globe which includes "all" of the citizens who reside there. All of the people who have encouraged or done little to oppose this genocide. So, Israel is forever....and will be forever a pariah nation who will be snubbed, ostracized and boycotted throughout time immemorial. Just watch any independent news and/or citizen journalism if you think that's a false assessment.
Tell them to get out of the stolen land and go back to eastern Europe where they belong
Ignorante
What a sick click bait
The Adan caught my attention rather than hearing this Israeli man.