Amazing work! Would be interesting to see a combination of percentages of all your proto-paleo-ancestral previous works (Germanic, Celtic, indo-iranian/Europeans, Turk and so on).
another incredible video bro! Cool to see DNA mapping content, something that yt unfortunately lacks... I would also like to see a video like that about older populations, like ANE, it would be interesting. And are the yamnaya that gave origin to the paleo-balkans a different group from the ones that became the corded ware?
I will make a map about ANE after the maps about Indo-Europeans and possibly Indigenous peoples of the Americas. Judging by the genetics of Corded Ware, they come from the Sredny Stog culture, which fled from the Pontic steppe to Poland as a result of the expansion of Yamanya. Genetically, this can be explained by the fact that some Corded Ware outlers have a higher HG ancestry than Yamnaya and are genetically identical to the Sredny Stog. Articles: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans Dynamic changes in genomic and social structures in the third millennium BCE central Europe
@@The_Geographer_Mapswhat modern populations are closest to roman Albanians genetically? How close or Albanians to Illyrians? How close are Albanians too ancient mainland Greeks? Do you know
Always nice to see your work, worth the wait:) What do you think about the hypothesis about a daco-thracian-baltic language continuum pre 10th BC, before the arrival of cimmerian peoples, e.g. from genetic ancestry research standpoint? Also what are you doing next?
Genetics and archeology show that Bell Beaker spread from the Balkan region to central Europe, which also suggests Graeco-Albanian spread to central Europe. Some outlers of German Bell Beaker as well as Hungarian Bell Beaker show exclusively Yamnaya and Balkan N ancestry. www.researchgate.net/publication/348758793/figure/fig2/AS:984112865230863@1611642199410/PCA-of-individuals-from-123-ancient-populations-including-Niedertiefenbach-PCA-of.png I calculated that Hungarian Bell Beaker contributed 41% to Proto-Celto-Italics and 16% to Proto-Germanics. Although I did not find any influence of Bell Beaker Hungary on Baltic, it is possible to assume that the language could have been transmitted. It seems to me that Baltic has a substrate that was very similar to Romance and Balkan, which distinguishes it from Slavic and Indo-Iranian. The next map I will make will be the expansion of Indo-Europeans based on the previous maps
For drawing I use Paint Tool SAI. Inscriptions I write in Windows Paint. I edit video in Windows Live Movie Maker. Of course, I would like to have a program that would better preserve the image quality, but having Windows 7 I do not know a better program
Most likely it was the proto albanian language that moved the same with the illyrians when they moved into the lands of the old europeans, they got culturally assimilated but not genetically.
There is a small mistake with the macedonians. They didn't inhabit the chalkidiki peninsula, instead it was inhabited by ionian settlers. The macedonians would however have inhabited an area to west of where they are on your map known as upper macedon. They would also have been present in pelagonia to the north, also known as Lynkestis. Otherwise great work I thought that macedonians were more similar to thracians and paeonians though. Because it's also likely that they spoke a similar language to them prior the hellenisation of Philipp II. Wouldn't they have been part of the same migratory group as the thracians and paeonians, especially paeonians seem to have been very close.
This peoples' history is truly tragic, in a saddeningly similar way to the Celts of the British Isles. Most of their languages were wiped out before they could be documented properly, their old ways and traditions suppressed and assimilated into greater cultures & their remaining remnants forced to retreat inwards, forcing themselves into a defensive position in order to maintain and preserve themselves so that they don't suffer the same fates as their kin who were not so lucky.
Serbs arrived into the balkans during the 8-9th century (according to historian D. Dzino). Also in Kosovo they first set foot in 1180-90 ad, before that the byzantine empire ruled over that area
Greeks ain't paleo - balkanic we saw as its known. Eastern macedonia and Thrace Greeks 😂😂its correct greekified - Thracians. I don't get it what are these terms but for Aegean and Cypriots its understandable.
Judging by the modern Romanians, they stand in a wedge between the Slavs and the Roman Balkans, in which stand the Serbs, Croats and Macedonians, which suggests that they were identical to Roman and pre-Roman Illyrians and Thracians
@The_Geographer_Maps Well northern illyrians and southern illyrians had significant genetic differences, so more than sure dacians and thracians had some genetic differences, and theres even proof (go and google eupedia: Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania)
Judging by the fact that there was a difference between south illyrians and north illyrians, theres no way that thracians didnt difer from dacians (more proof: Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania)@@The_Geographer_Maps
@@silviueugen4069 But it is difficult to calculate the difference between them because there are too few genomes and they often differ too much within a population
@@The_Geographer_Maps alright then but theres still a significant difference between illyrians and thracians and they are surely not the exact same thing genetically
Much appreciated that you had the Albanians being shown to be Paleo-Balkan as they are technically the last remnants of those peoples (besides the Hellenes) specifically the Illyrians whose territories spread from current-day Albania to modern-day Slovenia. May Allah/God bless them and their nation!
Bro, you are the best genetic “mapper”, great job! Are you can, please, make a video about Cucuteni-Trypillia ancestry percentage! (I am from Ukraine, Glory to the Ukraine (Slava Ukraini))
@@sotirisl9388 Αδελφε , αυτοι οι 'yamnaya' ηρθαν τελευταιοι ε; Εμεις οι ελληνες , ειμαστε 60-65 % νεολιθικοι γεωργοι της ανατολιας .Ηταν στα βαλκανια 80000 χρονια πριν απο αυτους τους ''yamnaya' .Μην τσιμπας απο την σλαβικη προπαγανδα
The video is incorrect. How can someone whose genetics are a combination of E V13,J and R1b, such as Albanians, be a Paleo-Balkan people? To make matters worse, these haplogroups (Exception R1b) did not arrive from the direction suggested by the author of the video. The genetic history of the Balkans did not begin 3000 BC, but 40,000 years BC. The dominant haplogroup in Europe from Ireland to Romania from 40,000 BC to 3000 BC was I2a. It is very incorrect for someone to make a video in which the Balkans are completely white, as if before the arrival of Indo-Europeans there were no people who lived there continuously for tens of thousands of years. And the descendants of those people still live in the Balkans today - they are Serbs, Croats, Macedonians, Bosnians.-The only Paleo-Balkan peoples, the others arrived 37,000 years later...
Again confusing languages with cultures and with genetics... Genetically Afro-Americans are still for the most part African with some European or even Indigenous DNA, but they dont speak any african languages, nor do the share the same african culture (any of the many for that matter). Moroccans share the same or at least a very close language with Saudis, but in terms of culture and genetics, they are not the same people! Modern Spaniards and Mexicans, share a very similar language, so similar that we call it the same, although it has some minor differences, but in terms of culture and genetics, Spaniards and mexicans are not the same people! The individual mix of these three categories is what makes a people, but at the same time, a single one of them can not be used to determine the other two.
Albanians being more paleo balkan than greeks? Bullsh!t. Northern albanians have a ton of slavic dna from mixing with serbs. Especially families like Elezi clan from kelmendi tribe who are of ethnic serb/slav origin. Many slavic place names slavic surnames AND slavic DNA
@@samsung-rl7ng lmao if you are gheg albanian you have more slavic than illyrian in you lol. Ghegs are closer to montenegrins bosnians and serbs than they are to tosks
Best youtube channel 2024. People on TikTok like to steal your videos for edits, cant blame them tbh.
Amazing work!
Would be interesting to see a combination of percentages of all your proto-paleo-ancestral previous works (Germanic, Celtic, indo-iranian/Europeans, Turk and so on).
Exciting! Very neat work!
Thanks for coming back bro i love your videos
Great video!
This is great man! Can you PLEASE make a video on the history and ancestry of the romance peoples next?
I mean, there isn’t one really, as it was a historical period imperial type enforced by methods of governance, not a prehistoric one
@@BellBeakerBloke what?
I would like to see italians, and their influence in mediterranean thanks to roman empire
Excellent work
Thanks. Can you make a video for Proto-Italic?
Cool bro
Welcome back!
Just found your channel and loving it, please do Dravidians soon!
Keep up the good work ❤
That looks so good, never seen something like that. Do you have plans to make video about Balto-Slavic peoples or Proto-Baltic peoples?
another incredible video bro! Cool to see DNA mapping content, something that yt unfortunately lacks...
I would also like to see a video like that about older populations, like ANE, it would be interesting. And are the yamnaya that gave origin to the paleo-balkans a different group from the ones that became the corded ware?
I will make a map about ANE after the maps about Indo-Europeans and possibly Indigenous peoples of the Americas.
Judging by the genetics of Corded Ware, they come from the Sredny Stog culture, which fled from the Pontic steppe to Poland as a result of the expansion of Yamanya. Genetically, this can be explained by the fact that some Corded Ware outlers have a higher HG ancestry than Yamnaya and are genetically identical to the Sredny Stog.
Articles:
The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Dynamic changes in genomic and social structures in the third millennium BCE central Europe
@@The_Geographer_Mapswhat modern populations are closest to roman Albanians genetically? How close or Albanians to Illyrians? How close are Albanians too ancient mainland Greeks? Do you know
Cool video
Always nice to see your work, worth the wait:) What do you think about the hypothesis about a daco-thracian-baltic language continuum pre 10th BC, before the arrival of cimmerian peoples, e.g. from genetic ancestry research standpoint? Also what are you doing next?
Genetics and archeology show that Bell Beaker spread from the Balkan region to central Europe, which also suggests Graeco-Albanian spread to central Europe. Some outlers of German Bell Beaker as well as Hungarian Bell Beaker show exclusively Yamnaya and Balkan N ancestry.
www.researchgate.net/publication/348758793/figure/fig2/AS:984112865230863@1611642199410/PCA-of-individuals-from-123-ancient-populations-including-Niedertiefenbach-PCA-of.png
I calculated that Hungarian Bell Beaker contributed 41% to Proto-Celto-Italics and 16% to Proto-Germanics. Although I did not find any influence of Bell Beaker Hungary on Baltic, it is possible to assume that the language could have been transmitted. It seems to me that Baltic has a substrate that was very similar to Romance and Balkan, which distinguishes it from Slavic and Indo-Iranian.
The next map I will make will be the expansion of Indo-Europeans based on the previous maps
Good Job! Could you make video of Proto-Afro-Asiatic or Proto-Semitic ancestry?
Cool, you should do Afroasiatic next.
You are E dna haploupgroup?
@ no I just want to see Afro-Asiatic language evolution (I am R1b)
Nice video! Will you ever do austronesians in the future?
What software do you use for these maps?
For drawing I use Paint Tool SAI.
Inscriptions I write in Windows Paint.
I edit video in Windows Live Movie Maker. Of course, I would like to have a program that would better preserve the image quality, but having Windows 7 I do not know a better program
Great work! Could you make a video about people of Proto-Italic ancestry?
R1b-Z2013.. the only actual descendants of the Yamnaya culture. Few know this. Glad you do.
6:17 what happened here? why did the population suddenly become less paleo-Balkan?
nice video, I’d like to see a video of the spread of semitic heritage
Two corrections: Albanians moved to Albania only after 600 AD, and Vlachs moved to Romania only after 1200 AD.
What evidence?
@@The_Geographer_Maps Are my replies showing?
@@amb4437 No, probably because you put links. You can write the name of the source.
Most likely it was the proto albanian language that moved the same with the illyrians when they moved into the lands of the old europeans, they got culturally assimilated but not genetically.
@@The_Geographer_MapsSad :(
Why did this ancestry suddenly decline around 100 AD?
Will you make the romance languages?
I have a playlist of all your videos on my account so perhaps you could save them and I could update in the reg.?
There is a small mistake with the macedonians. They didn't inhabit the chalkidiki peninsula, instead it was inhabited by ionian settlers. The macedonians would however have inhabited an area to west of where they are on your map known as upper macedon. They would also have been present in pelagonia to the north, also known as Lynkestis.
Otherwise great work
I thought that macedonians were more similar to thracians and paeonians though. Because it's also likely that they spoke a similar language to them prior the hellenisation of Philipp II. Wouldn't they have been part of the same migratory group as the thracians and paeonians, especially paeonians seem to have been very close.
This peoples' history is truly tragic, in a saddeningly similar way to the Celts of the British Isles. Most of their languages were wiped out before they could be documented properly, their old ways and traditions suppressed and assimilated into greater cultures & their remaining remnants forced to retreat inwards, forcing themselves into a defensive position in order to maintain and preserve themselves so that they don't suffer the same fates as their kin who were not so lucky.
Slavs assimilated them. Today, they're called Serbs, Croats, Bosnians and Romanians
Mabye you could remake you Indo European video with more detail like this one which showed small tribes and language groupings
do you think about updating the older videos with the charts in the end of the new videos?
Maybe someday I will update many videos as there are many mistakes. Of course I will also add charts
do italic poeple's ancestry 👍
i would be glad to see it
@@presidentpapillon2625 same
It’s amazing! I never knew anything about the Paleo Balkan languages until now.
Can you share the final map to download directly?
What happened in the early second century, Italian colonization?.
Please make map of latin/italic people
Serbs arrived into the balkans during the 8-9th century (according to historian D. Dzino).
Also in Kosovo they first set foot in 1180-90 ad, before that the byzantine empire ruled over that area
Serbs were a minority, but still managed to assimilate original people.
Greeks ain't paleo - balkanic we saw as its known. Eastern macedonia and Thrace Greeks 😂😂its correct greekified - Thracians. I don't get it what are these terms but for Aegean and Cypriots its understandable.
So the yamnaya were paleo-balkan?
nah...
I also got a question, how dp you know the genetic backround of dqcians if there isnt any dacia sample?
Judging by the modern Romanians, they stand in a wedge between the Slavs and the Roman Balkans, in which stand the Serbs, Croats and Macedonians, which suggests that they were identical to Roman and pre-Roman Illyrians and Thracians
@The_Geographer_Maps Well northern illyrians and southern illyrians had significant genetic differences, so more than sure dacians and thracians had some genetic differences, and theres even proof (go and google eupedia: Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania)
Judging by the fact that there was a difference between south illyrians and north illyrians, theres no way that thracians didnt difer from dacians (more proof: Neolithic Refuge and Continuity in Transylvania)@@The_Geographer_Maps
@@silviueugen4069 But it is difficult to calculate the difference between them because there are too few genomes and they often differ too much within a population
@@The_Geographer_Maps alright then but theres still a significant difference between illyrians and thracians and they are surely not the exact same thing genetically
Жду не дождусь видео про италийскую ДНК
Much appreciated that you had the Albanians being shown to be Paleo-Balkan as they are technically the last remnants of those peoples (besides the Hellenes) specifically the Illyrians whose territories spread from current-day Albania to modern-day Slovenia. May Allah/God bless them and their nation!
Greeks are paleo balkan and anatolian?
ah finally somebody who say the truth that
italians and turks are not latinized/turkicized
greeks just because they had some cities on the coast
Yes ya.
Bro, you are the best genetic “mapper”, great job! Are you can, please, make a video about Cucuteni-Trypillia ancestry percentage! (I am from Ukraine, Glory to the Ukraine (Slava Ukraini))
So albanians are the only true balkan descendants lol
With 20% average yamnaya ancestry?😂
@@sotirisl9388 yes
@@SpateHicks 🤣🤣🤣 you made my day brother , keep it up
@@sotirisl9388 Αδελφε , αυτοι οι 'yamnaya' ηρθαν τελευταιοι ε;
Εμεις οι ελληνες , ειμαστε 60-65 % νεολιθικοι γεωργοι της ανατολιας .Ηταν στα βαλκανια
80000 χρονια πριν απο αυτους τους ''yamnaya' .Μην τσιμπας απο την σλαβικη προπαγανδα
Ain't no way Slavs have that large land in Macedonia
It's rightfully Greek like Cyprus 🇬🇷🇨🇾
@@SirBolsóndon't forget Northern Epirus!
There're no Slavs in the Balkans. Except Slovenia, Hungary and Slovakia.
@GÓRAL-o2j B A S E D
@GÓRAL-o2j I meant Slavomacedonians
Lola?
The history of Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Romanian people.
@samsung-rl7ng Slavs? Those are not Slavs. They just speak Slavic languages
The video is incorrect. How can someone whose genetics are a combination of E V13,J and R1b, such as Albanians, be a Paleo-Balkan people? To make matters worse, these haplogroups (Exception R1b) did not arrive from the direction suggested by the author of the video. The genetic history of the Balkans did not begin 3000 BC, but 40,000 years BC. The dominant haplogroup in Europe from Ireland to Romania from 40,000 BC to 3000 BC was I2a. It is very incorrect for someone to make a video in which the Balkans are completely white, as if before the arrival of Indo-Europeans there were no people who lived there continuously for tens of thousands of years.
And the descendants of those people still live in the Balkans today - they are Serbs, Croats, Macedonians, Bosnians.-The only Paleo-Balkan peoples, the others arrived 37,000 years later...
👍👍👍👍
Again confusing languages with cultures and with genetics...
Genetically Afro-Americans are still for the most part African with some European or even Indigenous DNA, but they dont speak any african languages, nor do the share the same african culture (any of the many for that matter).
Moroccans share the same or at least a very close language with Saudis, but in terms of culture and genetics, they are not the same people! Modern Spaniards and Mexicans, share a very similar language, so similar that we call it the same, although it has some minor differences, but in terms of culture and genetics, Spaniards and mexicans are not the same people!
The individual mix of these three categories is what makes a people, but at the same time, a single one of them can not be used to determine the other two.
Albanians being more paleo balkan than greeks? Bullsh!t. Northern albanians have a ton of slavic dna from mixing with serbs. Especially families like Elezi clan from kelmendi tribe who are of ethnic serb/slav origin. Many slavic place names slavic surnames AND slavic DNA
@@samsung-rl7ng lmao if you are gheg albanian you have more slavic than illyrian in you lol. Ghegs are closer to montenegrins bosnians and serbs than they are to tosks
Albania is Illyria confirmed
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