What are your thoughts on the k-var “inner circle”? It has me not wanting to ever shop with them again. I have spent a lot of money over the years with them and they will not make me a member, which is crazy considering I’m one of the people that is even interested in some of the “collector” type stuff. Heck I already own most of it lol k-var really doesn’t sell a ton of inventory so I’m curious how many more people exist that purchase more than me
Same. The inner circle is a marketing ploy to make money. Just like when they were selling stuff that was out of stock on Gunbroker for big profit. The new waffle mags they are selling arent even the same as the original OD mags. Color is different, mold is different and US made followers.
Yea I have some of the originals from the pics I seen of the new ones they are different...I have a suspicion that the “inner circle” doesn’t really exist, well they may have a few you tubers as members but other than that I feel it’s a marketing strategy to get people going to the site for stuff that they don’t really have. It hasn’t prevented them from selling on gb which was the original intent
Its legit i know a few people not on here that are members but yea definitely just a marketing ploy. They make it seem like oh we only have a few OD mags left, better apply to be a member. When really they are just new products and they can make as many as they want. And those SAS M7s in FDE are just plain ugly and no where near worth 2.5k
I have one of the grey ones he mentioned. I agree with Mischa’s comments on the tight build quality. I really don’t like the coating color on any of them but I wanted a new milled underfolder. At least I don’t have to worry about wiping it down after picking it up. It is a pleasure to shoot and the stock it surprisingly good.
K-Var has been great to me, idk why people get so butthurt about them. They’ve helped me complete clones and you know what the only thing I had to do was write someone an email asking if they have any sitting around. Closed mouths don’t get fed, they are good people.
Last week, one of our subs here e-mailed me asking for an ARM9 stock set, saying he had missed out. I called MSR, who put me over to KVar, and they got me a stock set for him.
I just got the new SAS M-7 and I have a little bit of play in my stock moving up and down. I wonder if this is something Arsenal would fix/improve if I sent it in or not. It’s not the end of the world but considering it’s an Arsenal, I was hoping for better especially since I paid $2900…
Hi Misha Does the internal components ie. bolt carry group etc on the FDE have matching numbers or any numbering at all? I have the “covert gray” and the internal components don’t have any numbering. I find it odd for a Arsenal AK let alone the “collectors” cerise. Thanks in advance
Why is the SGL21 mag well different than the Bulgaria's SLR? The two side skirt on the SGL model is cut short than SLR, were the SLR skirt fit perfectly to the outer contour of the mag, the SGL has a large gaps on either side once a mag is inserted.
Nice guns,under folders do have their advantages, I got to say those two are real beauty's for sure, shame they don't put a spoon break on the end of the barrel, or even a 74 type brake, 556 would be a marvellous option I suppose that won't be available, great show!..
I just bought one it’s like it’s just threw together a bunch of rusty old parts and got the cheapest paint they can and ship them out the door mine was full of rust a hot mess hopefully I get taken care of
@Mishaco speaking of Arsenal aks I have a chance to buy an Arsenal k101 in .223. Is there any distinct marks or features I should look for to "authenticate" it not really much out there. Thx
Its a US assembled gun using Bulgarian parts done during the AWB (1994-2004). So basically, its like the current SAM5 but no bayo lug or threaded muzzle.
Happy New year Misha! Beautiful rifles! I need an UF arsenal! Hopefully I can grab one soon! I'd like a sam7UF for sure ! I wouldn't want that color tho for sure have to black lol what a strange color of cerakote
The handguards and pistol grips on most of the rifles Arsenal sells are US-made to comply with 922r. K-Var had some ARM9 furniture sets for sale over the holidays but if you have an Arsenal rifle, chances are the furniture is US-made.
@@In-Midnight-Clad I heard the original furniture and trigger is much nicer and to be specific, I'm talking about the furniture on a SAM7SF. The US product just doesn't seem as robust as the rest of the rifle
@@rdh5961 I'd rather have the original Bulgarian parts in basically every instance, but I don't think there are huge quality differences. The SAM7K is all Bulgarian parts and while the trigger is nice for a combloc factory trigger, it's not as nice as something like an ALG AKT. The AR-M9 pistol grip is better than Arsenal USA's SAW style grip though. The proper Bulgarian parts are all available if you want to swap the stuff out.
@@CharlieJulietSierra they post all of their shit on gunbroker and then drive the bids up artificially in order to justify high prices on their website because of “market demand” contact them about this and they will block you
Some how they called me and talked me into buying the grey one. Only bought it because I didn’t have an under folder. And I had kinda of remember your old video of the sas7
This members only thing Arsenal is doing has prevented me from picking up the fade version. Missed out on a set of beautiful wood krink hand guards for the same reason. Doubt I’ll be giving them any more of my money. Looks like a nice rifle though, thanks for putting the spotlight on it buddy.
Want to know something? I really know nothing about the 'members' thing that KVar is doing now. Dealers don't even buy from KVar. MSR Dist. is the company setup to handle wholesales. All part of the FIME Group thing of course.
@@choppahgobark I'm saying I never even heard of 'inner circle' until the comments of this video. I got a call around Dec 15 asking if i wanted an FDE Classic? I said 'yes'. Then i got a call about 2 days later asking if i wanted another in Blck? Bought both + some other firearms to stock my shelves. Thought they would be worth a video while taking pictures of them.
Not really: SAM7UF is imported, SAS Classic has always been assembled in the USA (using Bulgarian parts). SAM7UF has an AK74/ARM1 style frontend, SAS Classic has a more traditional AK Type III frontend.
@@misha5670 Thanks Misha. I got a SAM7UF 8 years ago or so. I still couldn't tell from the video. I got lucky with that as my first AK. I barely had a clue what I was getting. My AR hasn't seen the light of day in years literally. Thanks for the info.
As a gunshop, been buying from Arsenal since 2004. Of course early days until the Saigas/SGLs came in, it was small numbers but still, deal with someone for nearly 2 decades and they usually either hate you or love you lol.
Individuals don't worry much about following it (even though the law does apply to individuals as written) but it's something importers and manufacturers have to follow or risk their FFLs.
If they weren't so pricey I would definitely add one to my collection when a gun gets special attention you know it's going to be good gun most of the time I think more companies should add different colors like this to their lineup standard black gets kind of boring I was honestly thinking about doing an AK in a darker brown color with black accents
@@misha5670 I was hoping that people would be more exposed to them seeing as how Riley and PSA are making the 74 and maybe driving the demand back up for them. I think the only reason why arsenal didn’t sell is because the AK variant in general wasn’t as popular to the American consumer. That combined with arsenal prices left no entry level 74 for people to realize how amazingly soft shooting the 5.45X39 caliber is. However, thanks to guys like you, AK operators union, Brandon Herrera and many more RUclips channels, these pattern rifles are becoming more acceptable and practical to the American consumers. Nothing would make me happier than to see every house have just as many AK variants as there are AR variants. Keep up the great work. I appreciate you and your team building up the gun culture in a positive way.
@@tmartin3151 Is PSA still making their '74? Not seen any fresh ones in a few months myself but full discoosure haven't been dogging them heavily for more either.
@@misha5670 I believe they still are making them but to my understanding they sell out so fast that they haven’t caught up to production. I bought the Riley RAK74 and am pretty happy with the acceptance of a canted front post.
Personally wouldn’t waste my money on one of these, just another arsenal USA gun they found in the back of the warehouse claiming exclusivity to jack the price up, I have no doubt he’ll sell them all because they’re artificially holding the Arsenal market hostage, I mean you’ve got a brand new old stock receiver dated to 08, makes you wonder what else they’re hiding scroll all the way in the back of their warehouse
Your forgetting to mention these rifles are only available to kvar inner circle members only. So if you dont spend alot of money with kvar/arsenal they will not accept you in the inner circle an you can't buy one of these or 40rd waffle mags anything desirable basically.. You can always go to gunbroker though an pay twice as much. Kvar sells to non inercircle buyers there at a absolute premium.. Definitely dosent make me want anything to do with arsenal.. Scum bag sales tactics.. I have a blonde wood sasm7 classic its a poor attempt at replicating a polytech legend..
I have a blonde wood sasm7 classic its a poor attempt at replicating a polytech legend..~Please elaborate on this, I was looking at purchasing an older SAS M7 classic but am not familiar with them, Where/How do they come up short compared to the Polytech? Appreciate any input
@@MrCoolhandluke79 the gas tube on mine was extremely loose and rattled all the time. The M7 action isnt as smooth. The polytech is a true import from a military manufacturing facility. The SASM7 was made in Las Vegas by bubba based on my example. Its a srewed in barrel VS pinned. The only thing I like better about the Arsenal is the folding butt pad locks when folded down.. Arsenal used to be a reputable decent company I had high regards twards. Until they started Kvar. (Witch they claim to have no affiliation with. We all know thats bullshit) Now there nothing more than sleezeballs that practice scumbag marketing sales tactics. Prove me wrong... Unless you're a inner circle member lol. Even then you obviously have more money than sense..
The AK20 was being made with repurposed receivers in the first place. Those plans got scrapped and they were still left with the same receivers from 2008, like Misha said in the video.
@@misha5670 The one thing we know for sure with the Bulgarian milled imports, is all the major components are definitely Bulgarian made. So it's a known quantity and it's as close as we can legally get to owning something similar to Arsenal's military production line. S A Classic and S A US made rifles look nice but there are just certain unknowns. Maybe some batches of rifles are built on real Bulgarian milled receivers, BCGs and using Bulgarian CHF barrels? Maybe some batches of rifles built on US made receivers with US made barrels depending on what parts Arsenal USA has in stock? There's always rumors and chatter within the AK community. Arsenal USA is sketchy at times. So I er on the side of caution which is factory imports are my default position. I generally don't trust US assembled AKs unless its a custom build from a reputable AK smith. Custom builds are generally well outside of my budget when there are still good factory imports available.
You're pretty good at rhyming. As you might guess, i have little opinion on colours. For what its worth, not my cup of tea either but i figured people would be interested enough for a 10 minute look if nothing else.
I own a few arsenals. The sam7 is by far the nicest. The stamped guns are mediocre and my slr 107cr blew up at 5k rounds. Arsenal wouldn't touch it under warranty cuz I chopped the barrel down right out of the box and did a form 1. That and I bought a 106cr that wouldn't even run till I chopped it. Both cr models were so over gassed they needed it. Dont buy into the hype and pay stupid prices. If you want one buy the milled ones. Because of my experience with them I will never buy another one. At least not a Bulgarian one. Id take a Russian Arsenal if I could get it for a reasonable price. That is where Arsenal got there rep. I lied id probably buy another milled one in 556 if it was under 1k. I know a guy that just bought one. Btw misha I can't prove it but in my opinion all the stamped 107r and 107cr post 2015 stamped aks are parts kits. It doesn't make any sense that mine and several others have had weak trunion metallurgy. Plus if you strip that bs spray paint off you will see the receiver and barrel are parked but the bolt carrier and trunion are not. Keep in mind the 107 series uses a standard type akm bolt and trunion. They also only serialize the trunion and carrier. Makes me wonder if they got parts imported through a loop hole to make more on there bottom dollar by building them here using questionable trunions. I swear something is up dude. Too many fanboys will just write that off but I've been shooting aks for years with lots of rounds on them and never have I seen this kind of wear on any other import ak. Not even on my shitty us made palmetto 103.
What would they be parts kit from? Like what original rifle did they originate from...my slr bulgy rifles are all from 2012 I believe so I can’t speak to post 2015..I haven’t heard of weak metallurgy on the slr series. I’m annoyed with Arsenal/k-var because the bs inner circle membership.I should have been made a member from the amount of $ I spent with them but even after I emailed them still nothing. It makes me not want to give them any more of my $
@@slr7628 all my other stamped arsenals have parked everything from what I can tell. This is what tipped me off. My 106fr runs great and shows none of the same wear my 107cr did before blowing up. The wear wasn't only on the trunion either. The bolt carrier got some unusual wear on the bolt channel as well. I would suspect they are sourcing these parts from a usa mfg or possibly Poland. I know if I compare the parts to my psa they are very similar. Bolt carrier is almost exactly the same. In theory since they use akm size bolt and trunion they could use any old trunion they can find. So my guess is most likely usa. I have no way to prove it. I just know my other arsenals and my buddies 107fr don't show any of this extreme wear. The 107r and 107cr seem to be the only guns with these problems. So that leads me to suspect they aren't built like they use to be at the very least. Stamped Bulgarian Arsenals have always been a bit sloppy but they never had these issues pre 2015.
@@slr7628 and that's another thing that is odd. It only started when the 107r came out. Same batch of trunions in the 107cr with same prefix. Remember when Rob ski tested the 107r? Exactly the same wear in my 107cr before it blew up. Same serial prefix too. But I've also seen newer ones post 2015 that are showing the same thing. Its odd they came out with a fixed stock stamped gun that was cheap and way different than the others as far as parts. Almost like they built them with what ever parts they could scrounge up.
I don’t think it could be usa made trunnion just because at the time of release of 107r the usa made companies were still kinda in start up stage, but when I read your comment I did think of Poland. Their trunnions would look identical to the past bulgy trunnions. It would be interesting to know for sure. I wish I had a 107r just to compare with my oldest slr, the slr107f(no scope mount) to see if I can spot any differences. It is odd that Arsenal Bulgaria doesn’t make stamped guns anymore but yet we get them here. I would love to see a tour of Arsenal Bulgaria to see if they even have the machining to produce stamped aks anymore.it’s confusing because they clearly are making some stuff because they are still pumping out sidefolding assemblys which was always been bulgy or russia. Same with a lot of other parts that only russia or Bulgaria produced. It’s interesting for sure..my newest Arsenal is a sam7sf and the quality is insane. I would have picked up a sam5 had I not been butthurt by the “inner circle” bs
They are a business, they are working with limited stock and are at the mercy of limited imports. The American market is pocket change compared to their military contracts, we are lucky enough to get them in the first place. Everyone I’ve ever spoken to at k-var has been nothing but pleasant. People need to cool there jets with the hate, if you want a factory import ak there are plenty of options. It’s not like they are holding a gun to peoples heads to buy their products.
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I love all my arsenals.... but finally with great paint that doesn't peel off!!
Hey, the paint isn't a bug; its a feature! lol
That fde looks fire
What are your thoughts on the k-var “inner circle”? It has me not wanting to ever shop with them again. I have spent a lot of money over the years with them and they will not make me a member, which is crazy considering I’m one of the people that is even interested in some of the “collector” type stuff. Heck I already own most of it lol k-var really doesn’t sell a ton of inventory so I’m curious how many more people exist that purchase more than me
That sucks. I don’t know why they post that stuff on their site if it’s that exclusive.
Same. The inner circle is a marketing ploy to make money. Just like when they were selling stuff that was out of stock on Gunbroker for big profit. The new waffle mags they are selling arent even the same as the original OD mags. Color is different, mold is different and US made followers.
Yea I have some of the originals from the pics I seen of the new ones they are different...I have a suspicion that the “inner circle” doesn’t really exist, well they may have a few you tubers as members but other than that I feel it’s a marketing strategy to get people going to the site for stuff that they don’t really have. It hasn’t prevented them from selling on gb which was the original intent
Its legit i know a few people not on here that are members but yea definitely just a marketing ploy. They make it seem like oh we only have a few OD mags left, better apply to be a member. When really they are just new products and they can make as many as they want. And those SAS M7s in FDE are just plain ugly and no where near worth 2.5k
@@slr7628 No idea about it, as dealers don't order through KVar and never really have. Arsenal keeps wholesale separate.
I have one of the grey ones he mentioned. I agree with Mischa’s comments on the tight build quality. I really don’t like the coating color on any of them but I wanted a new milled underfolder. At least I don’t have to worry about wiping it down after picking it up. It is a pleasure to shoot and the stock it surprisingly good.
Eh, the colouration on them really doesn't effect me much ;p
Hope you have a great year Misha. Thanks.
That peanut butter would look good with the plum furniture
PB&J
I am wondering if u could put chinese type 56 furniture on them , I have a old set that came off a bringback from Vietnam
K-Var has been great to me, idk why people get so butthurt about them. They’ve helped me complete clones and you know what the only thing I had to do was write someone an email asking if they have any sitting around. Closed mouths don’t get fed, they are good people.
Last week, one of our subs here e-mailed me asking for an ARM9 stock set, saying he had missed out. I called MSR, who put me over to KVar, and they got me a stock set for him.
A+
I just got the new SAS M-7 and I have a little bit of play in my stock moving up and down. I wonder if this is something Arsenal would fix/improve if I sent it in or not. It’s not the end of the world but considering it’s an Arsenal, I was hoping for better especially since I paid $2900…
Hi Misha
Does the internal components ie. bolt carry group etc on the FDE have matching numbers or any numbering at all?
I have the “covert gray” and the internal components don’t have any numbering. I find it odd for a Arsenal AK let alone the “collectors” cerise.
Thanks in advance
Are they still bringing in the sam7 uf variant? I haven't seen them in a while and would prefer to wait for that.
Not currently. The only models being imported currently are the SAM5, SAM7SF, SAM7R , and SAM7K.
Why is the SGL21 mag well different than the Bulgaria's SLR? The two side skirt on the SGL model is cut short than SLR, were the SLR skirt fit perfectly to the outer contour of the mag, the SGL has a large gaps on either side once a mag is inserted.
Grab a non-converted Saiga sporter/hunter and checkout its magwell. That should inform things for you a bit better.
@@misha5670 I see, they all came like that!
I remember when not to long ago these arsenal ufak47 were around 1200. What happened to the 9x39 rifle.
Arsenal never had plans to do a 9x39mm.
Where can I get a SLR now? Dont see any in stock
Nice guns,under folders do have their advantages, I got to say those two are real beauty's for sure, shame they don't put a spoon break on the end of the barrel, or even a 74 type brake, 556 would be a marvellous option I suppose that won't be available, great show!..
These are numbered correct?
Two tone looks cool.
With the name my Arsenal rep was calling it, i so wanted to make a New Vegas joke.
Can't wait to get mine in FDE. It's my first Arsenal, not my first AK
I just bought one it’s like it’s just threw together a bunch of rusty old parts and got the cheapest paint they can and ship them out the door mine was full of rust a hot mess hopefully I get taken care of
I bought a very nice original SAS m7 classic in a pawn shop for $650 out the door in 2009. The pawn shop probably gave the owner $300 or less.
That’s a steal
What's up with the small pp mags
Thanks for all your videos. 👍
Welcome & thank you.
Where can I find these? Are they even for sale?
@Mishaco speaking of Arsenal aks I have a chance to buy an Arsenal k101 in .223. Is there any distinct marks or features I should look for to "authenticate" it not really much out there. Thx
Its a US assembled gun using Bulgarian parts done during the AWB (1994-2004). So basically, its like the current SAM5 but no bayo lug or threaded muzzle.
Still waiting on my inner circle invite even though i spent my life savings on arsenals
I spent mine on models....and cats. Models and cats.
Happy New year Misha! Beautiful rifles! I need an UF arsenal! Hopefully I can grab one soon! I'd like a sam7UF for sure ! I wouldn't want that color tho for sure have to black lol what a strange color of cerakote
Happy New Years to you as well.
At the low price for Only $3999.99 🤦🏽♂️
Haha..
Whaaaat!?!?!?
Which arsenal should I get, if I’m only getting one. One that’s readily available. Someone told me sam7 but his name isn’t Misha
Sam 7 SF
@@rdh5961 ^^^ This
@@rdh5961 only way to go!
@@youarelonely Or the Arsenal that has 'WBP' on the side instead hehe.
@@misha5670 of course, can’t forget about that one 😂
What do you think of the quality of the US handguards and pistol grip compared to the Bulgi version?
The handguards and pistol grips on most of the rifles Arsenal sells are US-made to comply with 922r. K-Var had some ARM9 furniture sets for sale over the holidays but if you have an Arsenal rifle, chances are the furniture is US-made.
@@In-Midnight-Clad I heard the original furniture and trigger is much nicer and to be specific, I'm talking about the furniture on a SAM7SF. The US product just doesn't seem as robust as the rest of the rifle
@@rdh5961 I'd rather have the original Bulgarian parts in basically every instance, but I don't think there are huge quality differences. The SAM7K is all Bulgarian parts and while the trigger is nice for a combloc factory trigger, it's not as nice as something like an ALG AKT. The AR-M9 pistol grip is better than Arsenal USA's SAW style grip though. The proper Bulgarian parts are all available if you want to swap the stuff out.
Been wanting an Arsenal AK. I heard they are top shelf.
once upon a time
Zastavas are top shelf
yeeee buddy got me the black one thx misha
5:17 “later style cover………….*meow” lol.
Hey, Hobo knows her AKs.
Can you confirm or deny that Arsenal is getting a new US importer?
I just want KVAR to go bankrupt
Deny, I dont think its a lack of trying from Arsenal Inc trying to get rifles out of Bulgaria. I dont see how a new importer could do better.
@@yeedbottomtext7563 I totally missed whatever happened with Kvar.
@@CharlieJulietSierra they post all of their shit on gunbroker and then drive the bids up artificially in order to justify high prices on their website because of “market demand” contact them about this and they will block you
@@yeedbottomtext7563 Ha, nice!
Oh how I remember the days when arsenals booth was the one I looked forward to seeing in the shot show videos. Maybe they have a surprise for us.
Remember the AK-20?
Hard to beat the arsenal underfolders.
cute little aks you got there
Some how they called me and talked me into buying the grey one. Only bought it because I didn’t have an under folder. And I had kinda of remember your old video of the sas7
Always great videos
Thank you for watching. I thought starting the year off kind of calm & lowkey would be appropriate.
Wow Arsenal doing what other manufacturers do as standard on production rifles. Hopefully the sights aren’t canted like my 107FR 😕
This members only thing Arsenal is doing has prevented me from picking up the fade version. Missed out on a set of beautiful wood krink hand guards for the same reason. Doubt I’ll be giving them any more of my money. Looks like a nice rifle though, thanks for putting the spotlight on it buddy.
THIS fde and covert grey was available during the 16 days of Christmas arsenal sale to the public, but only during those 16 days
Want to know something? I really know nothing about the 'members' thing that KVar is doing now. Dealers don't even buy from KVar. MSR Dist. is the company setup to handle wholesales. All part of the FIME Group thing of course.
So Misha, your saying you got that without being an inner circle member?
@@misha5670 I'm not sure if your a inner circle member or not but I wouldn't doubt it. If not then how'd you get that FDE version?
@@choppahgobark I'm saying I never even heard of 'inner circle' until the comments of this video. I got a call around Dec 15 asking if i wanted an FDE Classic? I said 'yes'. Then i got a call about 2 days later asking if i wanted another in Blck? Bought both + some other firearms to stock my shelves. Thought they would be worth a video while taking pictures of them.
My original Arsenal 107fr had a crap paint job. I sent it to Rifle Dynamics for them to work their magic and they repainted it beautifully.
I found a rare SGL 32-61 (Arsenal). Rifle Dynamics SBR'd it for me into an AK-105. Their OD green finish (KG Gunkote) has held up very well.
@@azmaddog6 they're getting around $1100 for the service now
@@azmaddog6 awesome! I’m such a sucker for ODG. My Arsenal came with the plumb furniture so I kept the paint black.
So is this basically a SAM7UF?
Not really: SAM7UF is imported, SAS Classic has always been assembled in the USA (using Bulgarian parts). SAM7UF has an AK74/ARM1 style frontend, SAS Classic has a more traditional AK Type III frontend.
@@misha5670 Thanks Misha. I got a SAM7UF 8 years ago or so. I still couldn't tell from the video. I got lucky with that as my first AK. I barely had a clue what I was getting. My AR hasn't seen the light of day in years literally. Thanks for the info.
I think there awesome I own a classic with wood and a 84sf there top of the line
I'd call it the Dijon Mustard Tiger.
Can the just redo the Sam7 Classic.
Not at this time. They do not have either the right receiver or stock et.
Hmmm, now I know what that random 10 round mag I have is.
Sucks there product line has become stagnant, they have so many cool milled rifles in there catalog.
You aren't wrong.
Arsenal was so sick back in day. Now they suck. The milled guns are nice but boy the stamped stuff they are still making is straight junk.
Go look at their military production line on their Bulgarian website. That is what they should be exporting to the US civilian in semiautomatic.
@@Enjoyer.762 I'm just happy we finally got the SAM5.
@@misha5670 Agreed. I think the price of Circle 10 5.56 mags has become ridiculously overpriced though.
fugggg under folder arsenal yes plsss howd u get these
They came in just before Christmas.
@@misha5670 luckyyyy
As a gunshop, been buying from Arsenal since 2004. Of course early days until the Saigas/SGLs came in, it was small numbers but still, deal with someone for nearly 2 decades and they usually either hate you or love you lol.
@@misha5670 whats ur website how can i buy some off of you
my gun store has em should i get em misha
922r is still a thing? Hell, no one followed that even back in the day.
Individuals don't worry much about following it (even though the law does apply to individuals as written) but it's something importers and manufacturers have to follow or risk their FFLs.
@@In-Midnight-Clad thanks captain obvious.
@@adamwaffledivision1785 No problem
If they weren't so pricey I would definitely add one to my collection when a gun gets special attention you know it's going to be good gun most of the time I think more companies should add different colors like this to their lineup standard black gets kind of boring I was honestly thinking about doing an AK in a darker brown color with black accents
Dark brown eh, I am thinking of that color for psa vatipants pistol build.
I like a standard military finish or plain parkerized. That's just my preference.
They need to bring back the slr106fr
No they don't. It wasn't well made.
@@Enjoyer.762 mine is
When the he’ll is arsenal going to make a stamped receiver again
Did they relaly ever make a stamped receiver? lol (*cough* ISD *cough*)
I’ll care when arsenal brings back their 5.45X39 rifles.
Honestly when they did have them? They did not sell very well. Now with the ammo ban? Even less likely to be a success.
@@misha5670 I was hoping that people would be more exposed to them seeing as how Riley and PSA are making the 74 and maybe driving the demand back up for them. I think the only reason why arsenal didn’t sell is because the AK variant in general wasn’t as popular to the American consumer. That combined with arsenal prices left no entry level 74 for people to realize how amazingly soft shooting the 5.45X39 caliber is.
However, thanks to guys like you, AK operators union, Brandon Herrera and many more RUclips channels, these pattern rifles are becoming more acceptable and practical to the American consumers. Nothing would make me happier than to see every house have just as many AK variants as there are AR variants.
Keep up the great work. I appreciate you and your team building up the gun culture in a positive way.
@@tmartin3151 Is PSA still making their '74? Not seen any fresh ones in a few months myself but full discoosure haven't been dogging them heavily for more either.
@@misha5670 I believe they still are making them but to my understanding they sell out so fast that they haven’t caught up to production. I bought the Riley RAK74 and am pretty happy with the acceptance of a canted front post.
Personally wouldn’t waste my money on one of these, just another arsenal USA gun they found in the back of the warehouse claiming exclusivity to jack the price up, I have no doubt he’ll sell them all because they’re artificially holding the Arsenal market hostage, I mean you’ve got a brand new old stock receiver dated to 08, makes you wonder what else they’re hiding scroll all the way in the back of their warehouse
I want to know just how many of these receivers they have left?
Sometimes I have to ask people do they think these kind of companies go into business to be a charity?
New year, more AKs
Cerakote is not paint...
No those are AK20's! 🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
Heard Misha mention it later in the video. Those things were d.o.a.
To rich for my blood nice guns but still just an ak.
Your forgetting to mention these rifles are only available to kvar inner circle members only. So if you dont spend alot of money with kvar/arsenal they will not accept you in the inner circle an you can't buy one of these or 40rd waffle mags anything desirable basically.. You can always go to gunbroker though an pay twice as much. Kvar sells to non inercircle buyers there at a absolute premium.. Definitely dosent make me want anything to do with arsenal.. Scum bag sales tactics.. I have a blonde wood sasm7 classic its a poor attempt at replicating a polytech legend..
I have a blonde wood sasm7 classic its a poor attempt at replicating a polytech legend..~Please elaborate on this, I was looking at purchasing an older SAS M7 classic but am not familiar with them, Where/How do they come up short compared to the Polytech? Appreciate any input
@@MrCoolhandluke79 the gas tube on mine was extremely loose and rattled all the time. The M7 action isnt as smooth. The polytech is a true import from a military manufacturing facility. The SASM7 was made in Las Vegas by bubba based on my example. Its a srewed in barrel VS pinned. The only thing I like better about the Arsenal is the folding butt pad locks when folded down.. Arsenal used to be a reputable decent company I had high regards twards. Until they started Kvar. (Witch they claim to have no affiliation with. We all know thats bullshit) Now there nothing more than sleezeballs that practice scumbag marketing sales tactics. Prove me wrong... Unless you're a inner circle member lol. Even then you obviously have more money than sense..
That brown one is hideous.
And yet? There's a market for it still.
I'd rather have take Bulgarian with spray paint.
Personally? me too
These might be the repurposed AK20 receivers that Arsenal didn't want to waste?
The AK20 was being made with repurposed receivers in the first place. Those plans got scrapped and they were still left with the same receivers from 2008, like Misha said in the video.
They are smoking drugs with their price points. K Var has got to be one of the absolute sleeziest companies.
I think the Bulgarian built rifles are the way to go. Their US made rifles are overpriced and there have been QC issues.
Actually, the QC issues I've heard of have all been with the Bulgarian imports. SLR107R for example? built in Bulgaria/
@@misha5670 The one thing we know for sure with the Bulgarian milled imports, is all the major components are definitely Bulgarian made. So it's a known quantity and it's as close as we can legally get to owning something similar to Arsenal's military production line. S A Classic and S A US made rifles look nice but there are just certain unknowns. Maybe some batches of rifles are built on real Bulgarian milled receivers, BCGs and using Bulgarian CHF barrels? Maybe some batches of rifles built on US made receivers with US made barrels depending on what parts Arsenal USA has in stock? There's always rumors and chatter within the AK community. Arsenal USA is sketchy at times. So I er on the side of caution which is factory imports are my default position. I generally don't trust US assembled AKs unless its a custom build from a reputable AK smith. Custom builds are generally well outside of my budget when there are still good factory imports available.
@@Enjoyer.762 Oh i certainly agree. That was why i sold my SAS Classic years ago and hung onto my SAM7SF & SAM7R.
Looks like the garbage FIME group trigger...
Yep, its the FIME fcg.
Half FDE half black that looks like crap 2300 bucks laughing my ass off for a paint job
You're pretty good at rhyming. As you might guess, i have little opinion on colours. For what its worth, not my cup of tea either but i figured people would be interested enough for a 10 minute look if nothing else.
I own a few arsenals. The sam7 is by far the nicest. The stamped guns are mediocre and my slr 107cr blew up at 5k rounds. Arsenal wouldn't touch it under warranty cuz I chopped the barrel down right out of the box and did a form 1. That and I bought a 106cr that wouldn't even run till I chopped it. Both cr models were so over gassed they needed it. Dont buy into the hype and pay stupid prices. If you want one buy the milled ones. Because of my experience with them I will never buy another one. At least not a Bulgarian one. Id take a Russian Arsenal if I could get it for a reasonable price. That is where Arsenal got there rep. I lied id probably buy another milled one in 556 if it was under 1k. I know a guy that just bought one. Btw misha I can't prove it but in my opinion all the stamped 107r and 107cr post 2015 stamped aks are parts kits. It doesn't make any sense that mine and several others have had weak trunion metallurgy. Plus if you strip that bs spray paint off you will see the receiver and barrel are parked but the bolt carrier and trunion are not. Keep in mind the 107 series uses a standard type akm bolt and trunion. They also only serialize the trunion and carrier. Makes me wonder if they got parts imported through a loop hole to make more on there bottom dollar by building them here using questionable trunions. I swear something is up dude. Too many fanboys will just write that off but I've been shooting aks for years with lots of rounds on them and never have I seen this kind of wear on any other import ak. Not even on my shitty us made palmetto 103.
What would they be parts kit from? Like what original rifle did they originate from...my slr bulgy rifles are all from 2012 I believe so I can’t speak to post 2015..I haven’t heard of weak metallurgy on the slr series. I’m annoyed with Arsenal/k-var because the bs inner circle membership.I should have been made a member from the amount of $ I spent with them but even after I emailed them still nothing. It makes me not want to give them any more of my $
@@slr7628 all my other stamped arsenals have parked everything from what I can tell. This is what tipped me off. My 106fr runs great and shows none of the same wear my 107cr did before blowing up. The wear wasn't only on the trunion either. The bolt carrier got some unusual wear on the bolt channel as well. I would suspect they are sourcing these parts from a usa mfg or possibly Poland. I know if I compare the parts to my psa they are very similar. Bolt carrier is almost exactly the same. In theory since they use akm size bolt and trunion they could use any old trunion they can find. So my guess is most likely usa. I have no way to prove it. I just know my other arsenals and my buddies 107fr don't show any of this extreme wear. The 107r and 107cr seem to be the only guns with these problems. So that leads me to suspect they aren't built like they use to be at the very least. Stamped Bulgarian Arsenals have always been a bit sloppy but they never had these issues pre 2015.
@@slr7628 and that's another thing that is odd. It only started when the 107r came out. Same batch of trunions in the 107cr with same prefix. Remember when Rob ski tested the 107r? Exactly the same wear in my 107cr before it blew up. Same serial prefix too. But I've also seen newer ones post 2015 that are showing the same thing. Its odd they came out with a fixed stock stamped gun that was cheap and way different than the others as far as parts. Almost like they built them with what ever parts they could scrounge up.
@@slr7628 serial prefix it all started with is kt-57##### i even know of 2 others with that prefix that blew up. One a 107cr and 1 was a 107r
I don’t think it could be usa made trunnion just because at the time of release of 107r the usa made companies were still kinda in start up stage, but when I read your comment I did think of Poland. Their trunnions would look identical to the past bulgy trunnions. It would be interesting to know for sure. I wish I had a 107r just to compare with my oldest slr, the slr107f(no scope mount) to see if I can spot any differences. It is odd that Arsenal Bulgaria doesn’t make stamped guns anymore but yet we get them here. I would love to see a tour of Arsenal Bulgaria to see if they even have the machining to produce stamped aks anymore.it’s confusing because they clearly are making some stuff because they are still pumping out sidefolding assemblys which was always been bulgy or russia. Same with a lot of other parts that only russia or Bulgaria produced. It’s interesting for sure..my newest Arsenal is a sam7sf and the quality is insane. I would have picked up a sam5 had I not been butthurt by the “inner circle” bs
WHAT ABOUT ARSENALS SHADY BUSINESS PRACTICES? No one wants to address the elephant? Ok cool
Arsenal or KVar?
They are a business, they are working with limited stock and are at the mercy of limited imports. The American market is pocket change compared to their military contracts, we are lucky enough to get them in the first place. Everyone I’ve ever spoken to at k-var has been nothing but pleasant. People need to cool there jets with the hate, if you want a factory import ak there are plenty of options. It’s not like they are holding a gun to peoples heads to buy their products.
@@Dawgust420 True. A FB Radom or Zastava is probably a better option for most people.
I guess we're never gonna get that arsenal ak20. It sounds like covid killed that
Being a dumb idea killed that.
@@misha5670 why do you think that?
@@beachdrugpanda Because the AK20 was the opposite of a smart idea.
@@misha5670 but why