Thunderbird: Does Holiday World Regret the $22M Coaster?
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- Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024
- In today’s video we review Holiday World's newest roller coaster, Thunderbird. The B&M wing coaster is a blast, but with a $22 million price tag, does Holiday World have any regrets about building it?
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I bet Voyage costs a LOT more than Thunderbird in maintenance
Aren't B&Ms cheap in maintainence?
@@Coolsomeone234 They're not "cheap", but they don't require maintenance nearly as much as wooden coasters or Intamins *cough*. B&Ms are the pinnacle of reliability for coasters.
Someone 234 Yeah, that’s what he said.
True but I'm sure a launched coaster costs more to run vs a chain lift woodie
Chimera what’s your job?
As an employee at Holiday World I can indeed confirm that the Thunderbird has done nothing but make the park more money (this comes from my boss), and they have plans to keep adding more rides to the park for years to come.
Suggest adding some type of steel coaster to the Christmas section.
Please tell your boss and whoever owns and operates the park to please leave their wood coasters alone and to not let you RMC or GCI touch them with their steel track
@@chrispacmanjones2765 I’d definitely like to see more rides in the Christmas area, most of them there are geared towards kids
@@jrax1713 this is true, those who wish to rmc voyage must be burned at the stake
@@jrax1713 Please tell your boss the opposite and titan track them.
Its not fair to say the voyage is a third of the price. Yes, it technically was at the time of its opening, but it has required a lot of maintenance and retracking that thunderbird will not making the prices more similar than you think. I also think you are underestimating the cost of cheetah chase. Watercoasters are the most expensive attraction at a waterpark and a dueling one should definitely cost a lot.
Noah Berlin dont forget the launch, which will make cheetah chase have more maintenance too.
B&M wheels and other parts are reallllllly expensive tho so its probably closer than we think
Lots of water pumping to cheetah chase bc of the launches, plus everything is multiplied by 2 bc it duels
@@djsugarc1075 the good thing is B&M’s don’t need new parts that often
Steel coasters are bigger investments but there maintenance costs are much lower as wood coasters such as the voyage cost a lot to do re-tracking
Good video but I disagree. Thunderbird was a great addition.
Fair enough! Thanks for watching.
Definitely "checks all the boxes" for what the park didn't have: launch, inversions, steel, B&M, wing. And another wood coaster would have diluted their maintenance. Haven't ridden it so can't say if it really works that well for any of those things, but not the first or last park to make a logical decision.
they have a lot of gaps still, i think a modern gci and a family gravity group would be good, as well as a modern vekoma
as a (self proclaimed) holiday world expert (lol) and someone who goes every year and rides thunderbird at least three times i can definitely say that it’s worth it. even if the voyage is superior (in my opinion) this is one of the best launched coasters in the world!
I agree with most of the comments that retracking/maintenance cost on the 3 woodies is likely a lot. That said, I've heard many people speculate that we haven't seen another B&M Launch coaster because Thunderbird is real costly to operate.
I don't agree with the though of RMC Legend + Gravity Group option as it's not really a "2 coasters for the price of 1". You would still only have 4 dry coasters in the park at that point, as they do now. Also to me The Raven fits the billing of a family/intermediate thrill coaster.
Also, Splashing Safari is a HUGE part of their business so adding a kids area and a 3rd water coaster totally makes sense.
My gravestone will read “Don’t let RMC touch The Legend at Holiday World.” 😂 That ride is a treasure. There are three GREAT moments of airtime on it for me and that double helix and those last turns are OH MY LORD AMAZING.
I can see how you could love it, and I agree on the airtime moments. However, I’m just not huge on lats and being tossed around from side to side. But that’s a while another video!
@@ParkPros I love laterals. That's why I really enjoy Wild Mouse coasters. I also love the rough and tumble feeling of riding a classic woody.
Park Pros, it’s well known for being a coaster that has a lot of laterals and even if it would be better if was an RMC I feel like it plays a special role in the coaster world as a unique wooden coaster
They already have a treasure raven
The roller coaster in Indiana, murica that needs the RMC treatment is Hoosier Hurricane, obviously
I’m honestly really surprised how well edited and how professional this video feels for a small channel. You definitely gained another subscriber. You went into such small details that didn’t have to be there and that shows a lot about how much passion you have for the channel. Great video!
Thank you so much, I appreciate the kind words.
I’m sure the reason why the price tag was high was cause of the LSM. Remember, this is the first coaster B&M did with a launch, Hulk at IOA had an outside team do the launch as B&M did not do launches at that time so just that feature alone was why the hefty price tag. And if you notice, This coaster and Hulk are the only 2 B&M coasters that have a launch.
This is a really great chess game, 22 million dollars is a ton of money when there are a ton if thrilling cheaper options out there, but Holiday World likes to make a splash with their coasters and this launched wing coaster did that. Plus its a GP pleaser along with enthusiasts. Plus it doesnt need the annual retracking the Voyage does which I'm sure adds up significantly over time. Great analysis though, TBird is my favorite wing coaster of the 4 in the US
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Thunderbird so far is my favorite roller coaster. It was so fun and amazed at how smooth it rode.
Nice camera work at 2:33 catching The Voyage go by then panning to Thunderbird going over the loop!
Thanks! I was pretty proud of that shot as well 😀
Here is the thing, the Koch family alluded to a steel coaster for a long time. I remember back from 2008 to my knowledge however it could very well be earlier.
They’ve always desired doing a steel coaster especially Will Koch who unfortunately died.
Thunderbird is freaking amazing. It's got a nice launch the near miss and the roll at the end. Awesome elements.
It's not as intense as Banshee though.
Montu is the most intense B&M in murica
I really don't think anything of Thunderbird, in fact it doesn't even rate in my top 100, but good for them if it's been a success. I didn't even bother to re ride it after one in the back row. They could have done SO much better with 22 million. SO much better than thunderbird.
As someone who lives in the area and has been to the park many times it’s what the park needed. They put a lot of focus on great water coasters. They needed a steel coaster and they need more.
I Think X Flight is underated. Floor gang.
Yes!
I prefer floorless and your comment makes no sense either way.
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Holiday World is not Kings Island or Six Flags Magic Mountain. Of course they haven't added a new rollercoaster since
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It's quite obvious that Thunderbird was much more expensive then The Voyage. Wooden coasters are generally cheaper to install, but much more expensive to maintain compared to steel coasters. On top of that, B&M is one of the most if not the most expensive manufacturer out there.
I like your intro! Solid review of the coaster. Regarding cost comparison of a B&M to RMC, RMC are a lot cheaper cause they manufacture almost, if not all, parts themselves. Companies like B&M (and also Intamin), actually outsource many parts of their manufacturing. B&M has, for example, never built a launch themselves (including thunderbird). Outsourcing all these parts is (partly) what makes them so expensive. Great Video though :)
I am not aware of a single ride manufacturer that doesn't use outsourcing. Given how many new rides a company may sell in a year, it is just not worth the cost of warehousing spare parts and other stock. Some companies keep a stock of service parts like wear pads and bearing bushes that can be made in large quantities and don't take up much space, but anything else is almost always made to order by an external engineering company that has the equipment to make just about anything you want. Outsourcing actually reduces the overall cost of not only making a new ride but also supplying parts for existing rides.
For example, the wheel bolt used by Intamin for their road wheels is about 4 times larger and heavier than the wheel bolt used by S&S, they are both made form the same grade of high tensile steel and they are both case hardened. S&S actually produce these in their own facility in Utah, whereas Intaminge have an engineering firm make them to order, the Intamin parts are cheaper.
I agree 💯. I am a huge Cedar Point fan. I enjoy the Gatekeeper but the Thunderbird hands down is a better ride.
If they get an RMC, I bet it’s a raptor. Roughly the same amount vs converting something like legend over and they don’t ‘lose’ a coaster. Definitely need more flat rides. Add a GP favorite with a swinging pendulum ride like crazanity at least.
A Raptor or a Zamperla Giga Discovery would be sweet in the spot where Pilgrim's Plunge was.
I think their next coaster should be a bermuda blitz
Thats a really good call. Most people dont talk about the next gen vekomas for the independent parks
Lech Coaster's inversion through the station and aggressive but smooth transitions look top class.
They should get a custom next-gen never clones m9
PG true true fine but a very similar model with a lift hill and a lot of the same elements. like how iron gwazi is so close to zadra.
@@djsugarc1075 Iron Gwazi looks way better than Zadra tho
I mean I rode it today and it's now my favorite coaster at the park that last corkscrew with all the air time is great
I really love the Thunderbird! I go on it every year I go there! It stinks that it’s been holding the park back.
I was never the biggest fan of the Legend, but that retracking really did wonders for it, sending it from my least favorite coaster at the park to my 2nd favorite after the Voyage. I think Holiday made the right choice with spending their money on Thunderbird and the retracking. As much as I'd love to see an RMC at the park, it'd be a shame to lose any of it's iconic woodies in the process, so I hope any future RMC is a ground-up model.
I love Thunderbird!
It's an awesome coaster!
A great ride and my first go to when I visit
I have ridden all 4 US wing coasters, and I think Thunderbird is the best but you are correct the gap between it and Gate Keeper is not as great as people might suggest. X- Flight is third and Wild Eagle is a distant fourth. I also have Thunderbird just ahead of Raven as the 2nd best coaster at Holiday World.
I can say without hesitation that Thunderbird is the best roller coaster that I have ever ridden. I personally hated Voyage as I felt I was mostly just enduring (rather than enjoying) it by the halfway point. Thunderbird, on the other hand, was a complete joy to experience. I dragged my sister over to ride it at the end of a hot, tiring day and she was metaphorically ready to kill me by the time we got onto the ride. Fortunately, she was also blown away and forgave me after the first loop. :D
Unfortunately I live too far away now to make it likely but if I ever make it back to Holiday World it will be solely to ride Thunderbird again. :)
Me and my best friend rode the Thunderbird for the first time on Wednesday (May 24h) and we were blown away by how smooth it was and how it seemed scary but was actually very enjoyable!❤
@@Connor-idk23 Yeah, I've rode more coasters since I posted that comment but Thunderbird is still my favorite. :)
@@dashsocur :)
With Holiday World I was mixed on the decision to add Thunderbird as well. On one hand it did diversify their lineup but i also thought they could become the undisputed Wood Coaster Capital by adding a RMC Topper, maybe Intamin Pre fab and a GGI family coaster.
For your what-if at the end of the video, the extra 7-8 million definitely would do well in flat rides but although they have an elite waterpark, they are missing a thrilling body slide like deep water dive at Hurricane Bay (Kentucky Kingdom) or fire tower falls at Splash Country (Dollywood). A slide similar to one of those 2 would fit in well at Splashin’ Safari
Great concept for a video. The remaining carcass of Pilgrim's Plunge (last ride in 2013), could very well be evidence to your point. It's awkward walking past it on the walk from Thunderbird and Voyage.
Pilgrim's Plunge 2.0 could be an RMC Raptor. It has the bang for the buck and would give a vastly different ride experience to their current coaster lineup. A 90 degree first drop, ejector air and zero g stall would be sick. Preferably, 12 car trains and a midcourse like Jersey Devil and a continuous loading platform. In true Holiday World fashion they could add tunnels. The cherry on top is that RMC Raptors have a height requirement of 48 in, making it way better for Holiday World's target audience of families than Thunderbird's 54.
I miss pilgrims plunge! I rode it when I was 7 & wish i still had that confidence to ride it again before it had closed
I agree with everyone word you just said. I think thunderbird is a first step to a revamp of that area of the park, and a raptor is almost certainly the best choice here. Ejector air, relatively cheap, and designed for smaller parks.
HWs target audience is not families lol.
@@theninthheart4736 What makes you say that? Their slogan is "Number 1 for Family Fun" lol
They should def get a RMC Topper Track. Voyage is already a GG, so don't do GG, and wouldn't want HW to have a GCI since it's the biggest coaster manufacturer, and HW should always remain a place that represents woodies from smaller companies. Not saying that RMC is a small company, but RMC rarely does ground-up woodies with their topper-track model.
What in gods name are you talking about 😂🤣
Nice analogy! It is interesting to think what they could have added instead of Thunderbird.
William Manthey a Gerstlauer infinity
Gravity group shuttle coaster? idk
The only reason they added the steal coaster was because if Will Kochs 10 year plan this was his last ride he added before he died, but I think it was an awesome addition.
I love wing coasters. I gotta get out to holiday world and ride this. Great America is my home park so x flight was my first wing coaster. The prelaunch audio is amazing. ATTENTION!! Xflight recruits get READY TO FLY!! I rode gatekeeper last summer and I loved that one too. I know they're not the most intense coasters but they're fun. I really like them.
The best wingriders are the freakish monsters in China
Wow, that's such a huge price tag... even for B&M.
Pricey coaster for sure.
It is almost a guarantee that as long as the park is under the Kochs none of their woodies will get RMCd. Thunderbird by itself may be a slightly low ridership attraction compared to the woodies, but that’s because it is buried in the back in the park and it’s horribly annoying to get to, and there’s nothing else up there. That being said, they have a lot of expansion area up there with the former water slides and former pilgrims plunge. Thunderbird is the first step in a revamp of the parks area. That’s my educated guess
I think they needed Thunderbird to help the diversity of the park. They figured it would attract a larger audience to build the reputation of the park. The wooden roller coasters are amazing for wooden roller coasters. Some people think wooden are the best, but Thunderbird made it more than just a "wooden" roller coaster park. Me personally, it's the waterpark there that attracts me the most. It's a good sized one without having to travel to Ohio to get to one.
OMG this guy needs more subscribers
Could you do a next coaster prediction(your opinion) for Holiday World and Kentucky Kingdom?
Like I could see Holiday World with an original model Chance Hyper-gtx, rmc Legend, a large scale gci/gg and a family gg/gci. It might be weird to see a chance ride but with an different layout and it would give you an unique experience that you can hit both chance rides on a round trip through Indiana and Kentucky. It would be the battle for I-64.
"It would be the battle for I-64." Agree they definitely want to outdo each other. A custom RMC Raptor at Holiday World would be different than Kentucky Kingdom's lineup. Also, KK has an advantage in flat rides and the trapdoor body slide that I will never try in my life. Maybe add a slide complex of body slides to Splashin' Safari, and flesh out the walk from Voyage to Thunderbird with a strong flat ride.
I wish another GTX would be built but I think we would’ve seen it by now if the model was going to stick around. The Koch’s will never RMC any of the three woodies, maybe a change in ownership would change that but not under the Koch’s. I wouldn’t expect another GG, a GCI is possible though. Only problem is what would make it stand out? Raven has history and a lot of drops, legend has lats, voyage has airtime, thunderbird has inversions and a launch. I think that whatever their next coaster is it’ll be an ejector machine, as HW doesn’t have a ride that focuses on ejector. I think a raptor is COMPLETELY possible here. Relatively cheap, good for small parks, ejector air.
I love Legend. Was definitely my favorite at the park.
Don't love lats, that's probably why I'm not a fan.
Whaaaat? The Thunderbird rules!
Every coaster seemed the same until they got a steel coaster. Another wooden coaster would have just seemed like more of the same, no matter how cool it was. It prolly wasn't gonna be better than Voyage
Great video! This year also Holiday World is re-tracking The Voyage, which is a hefty price tag.
From what I remember from ElToroRyan's long Voyage video, they re-tracked sections of it every off-season recently. At one point they re-profiled the so-called spaghetti bowl section as well.
nox 8844 this off season they are doing the whole thing. Reason why they closed the voyage so early last season.
I'd imagine Holiday worlds next big investment would either be a mid-sized family coaster or as you suggest an RMC of The Legend. But I'm not sure, is RMC maintenance expensive?
I love Holiday world me and my family has been coming to Holiday world for 22years and ist like a 2ed home to us and my kids and grandkids love thunderbird
I think that Holiday World made the right decision when they built Thunderbird. Would a family of 4 or 5 trek to the back of the park for 2 or 3 rides without anything in between? No. Would thrill-seekers trek to the back of the park for two thrilling attractions, including a launched wing coaster? DEFINITELY!
Kumba. Baddest coaster of its day. I miss living in Tampa.
Really good video! It was explained very well and I enjoyed it!
Expensive to build,maybe,cheaper in maintenance,okay,good deal! In a long time Perspektive they will win. B&M is known as a very solid,reliable Swiss coaster manufacturer with the smoothest ride experience. Every Park should have at least one!
I like live the legend! It is a lateral G monster! Raven gave us airtime, the legend gave laterals. The voyage smashed the two together! I personally think it goes Voyage #1, The Legend #2, then Thunderbird.
My biggest complaint about the thunderbird has nothing to do with the ride. It’s amazing. But it’s not as fun as ride next to it and the walk to the ride itself is actually exhausting. It’s a long steep walk to the ride which really tires you out. Especially since you’ve already been walking around all day
Your intro is my fav thing 😍
You should a park with the most of each category. Fun, great, elite. Kind of a best park for family intermediate, avid, and enthusiast.
That's a great idea!
I will tell you I think the next coaster they are going to do is an intermediate coaster of some kind. It is a big gap they need and plus family coasters are getting better to appeal to enthusiasts and thrill seekers as well as non thrill seekers as well. So a modern family coaster is perfect!
I would say this would be great in 4th of July as it’s the only major area without a major coaster, but they are landlocked.
It’s probably more likely to use the station Pilgrim’s Plunge used to be for this new coaster as it is still left there unused.
HW isn’t about that though. They are a park for enthusiasts, by enthusiasts
Great video, also the others I've seen were great (the awesome Lost Island Theme Park analysis I even shared in the German Coasterfriends forum as their thread about that project had a long drought in postings). But, could you please silent the clicking and bell ringing sound effects from your "please subscribe" animations? I find them to be a bit obnoxious and I find myself wanting to press "m" as soon as possible when I realize they're about to play...
Got you, I’ll fix it for the next video. My ears just must be used to it after hearing it so many times. Thanks for your support!
Then the price tag for mistic river falls at silver Dollar City was more expensive with it being $23000000
Thunderbird is an awesome coaster.
Tbird is awesome it could have been a tad longer but oh well and there getting ready to get another steel coaster
Well done video. Earned a sub! I'm with you on just about everything except I think you may have overlooked a thing or two. I believe the Holiday World hierarchy was still grieving the death of their husband/ father and not to mention reeling from the ousting of relatives from roles of prominence. Will Koch was gone before the first wing coaster was built so I don't think he directly mentioned the desire to have one, but I do think that he had plans to add a B&M. In fact I wonder if Pilgrim's Plunge was brother Dan Koch's idea and when it proved to be unreliable the Board of Directors decided the ride and the person that chose it should both go. Oh to be a fly on the wall! As for RMC; I have a hunch that Six Flag, back in 2010 (thinking topper track was more of a maintenance product), had RMC sign a 5 year exclusionary agreement for the I -box track. The Koch family, knowing Will's desire to build a steel coaster by the reliable B&M, decided to see it through. However, what brought on the launch? And what if Holiday World would have explored such an idea with the options available with RMC. Could Lightning Rod been built in the foothills of the Ohio river valley of southern Indiana? Anyway thanks for providing fuel to my wild imagination!
Pilgrims Plunge was built and in operation well before WIll Koch passed away and his brother took over. It was for sure the idea of Will and not his brother.
@@dudebrochill6583 Dan Koch was chairman of the board at the same time Will was park president. Both positions of influence. I know pp was built before Will's death, but I don't know who made what decisions, hence the fly on the wall comment.
Idk why? The coaster is good, it’s like a Gatekeeper that has G’s. The only true downside of the ride, is it’s in BFE in the park.
They could put another steel type of coaster in the Christmas section of the park and call it Frost.
Worth every penny for Holidayworld. It’s drawn people from all over the world to Southern Indiana.
Love the video, just wondering, what is the name of the final coaster in your intro??
Cu Chulainn at Tayto Park
Park Pros thank you, it just looks hella pretty
Honestly I still think Holiday World should RMC the legend at some point. I used to really like it back when I rode it for the first time in 2014, but the last ride I got on it was so bad i feel like it truly NEEDS the rmc treatment now.
I have a fear of a splinter falling from the planks of wood in the near misses and hitting my eye at 60 mph
I loved riding the thunder bird
I am shocked that B&M remains a go-to manufacturer for so many parks. $22 million for a ride as short as Thunderbird is outrageous. You are basically paying for the extreme reliability and higher capacity, which is a huge plus for places like Cedar Point or Universal, but for Holiday World? Its not like the general public sees a B&M and goes "Wow they installed a B&M? Impressive." I feel this way about Mack rides to a degree as well, Copperhead Strike was MORE expensive then Fury 325?? While Intamin's horrible track record with reliability makes them a bad option for most parks, theres plenty of other options. RMC has done so well because all of their models focus on reliability AND cost (minus the accident of Lightning Rod), while S&S and Premiere also offer amazing rides for incredibly small price tags. West Coast Racers & Maxx Force were made for less than half of what Thunderbird cost.
😂😂🤣 what in gods name did I just read
yalls may disagree but if rmc touches the legend im dipping 😂
I don't understand how Intamin can make lunches for 10+ years and can't get that reliability down, and then b and m designs their own without any experience and it's perfect
Thunderbird may have been 3x more to build, but I 100% guarantee you that the vast majority of people prefer Thunderbird to Voyage. Excluding enthusiasts, B&Ms are the ultimate crowd pleasers. Building an RMC would’ve been great from the enthusiast perspective, but I bet you Thunderbird was a better investment for the park.
General public... Voyage just goes on and on and on. And it dont go upside dooown at all
The wooden coasters are so rough but are fun really messed up my back
Thank you for a great video. I would say Holiday World LLC spent and invested more wisely with B and M. I am sure they were willing to pay more for the reputation and reliability after their experience with Pilgrims Plunge epic fail that caused them to close the entire ride. Failures are the best teachers. :)
Wild Eagle at Dollywood!!!
Haven't been on it yet - hopefully this year!
@@ParkPros It's a very smooth ride. I rode it again on March 13, the only day DW was open this year. I hope they can still open for the second half of their season.
@@ParkPros You definitely need to, Wild Eagle is the only true competitor to Thunderbird. X-Flight, Gatekeeper, and Swarm are the larger, but second tier wing coasters.
I wish Holiday world would retheme the Thanksgiving section to Christmas.
I love Thunderbird but I agree the launch makes it a little better than Gatekeeper.
I don't think they regret it entirely, but perhaps they regret not waiting a bit for the raptors...
B&M is a lot like Apple. They're turn-key rides, but you'll pay for it. They're honestly overpriced and the company doesn't innovate and is often late to the game and plays it safe. Maintenance of the purchase is also expensive. Fun fact: the foam head rests that need to be changed every now and then cost upwards of $1000 EACH.
A raptor at Holiday World would be an amazing fit. And I agree, B&M does play it sage but a lot of the time that's enough for parks to please the general public.
@@ParkPros Which is why I'm surprised they went with something so out there. I wonder how much extra that launch costed.
@Jose V. Lol, how do you know?
@Jose V. Which one? Name and episode.
@Jose V. Ah. But what I'm hearing is I box perhaps😉😁😅
This is personally my least favorite wing coaster, but mainly because of how short it is. Other than that, it's still a very fun ride.
They need to open up they stupid barn thing that the line goes through. That is hot as hell. It's all enclosed and there's no breeze, someone is going to have a heat stroke
Thunder bird is my favorite coaster anywhere
Best family park around and affordable
I hate how the voyage has like a 50 octillion miles long but not the coster
Best coaster I've road I love this ride
It's great!
Next coaster should be a single rail rmc!
That would be amazing.
I think they’ll go wood again, most likely an Outlaw Run-esque RMC
Thunderbird Is a God
It’s ok not all of that
Your suggestion to RMC legend , to make it the “ craziest “ RMC , ignores the entire vision of thunderbird as well as the general public. The cedar point average gp, they go there for thrills. This park, yes thrills but family experience! The park did the right thing and maybe you should familiarize yourself with the story and vision of this ride and the symbolism of it. I’ll skip the subscription for now as this post sorely lacked cohesion and balance. Also , RMC’s are not turn key rides requiring little maintenance. This ride was. Another thing you didn’t factor in; to draw a crowd they needed a big steel ride. This video was a miss for me
Mad over video of a coaster LULW
Always Watching you’re what, 14? Is the only time people in your world give a view , when they’re mad ? Trying to figure out why you wrote some this so stupid. If you’re young, it makes sense. You don’t know better
They praise the roller coaster
Why not just rmc raven instead of paying $22,000,000
I’m subscribed now 😀
THEY SHOULDN'T REGRET IT. AND NEVER TAKE IT OUT❤😢
A 10 minute video to just say "no I don't think so"
Should’ve got an RMC
I don't disagree.
Should have gone with a Intamin Pre-Fab. Lol
Someone 234 That would've been more expensive actually.
Yeah because those are getting built right & left, eh?
Rmc the legenddddd
Yes!
Park Pros it’s what the park needs
Park Pros other than that what do you think the next coaster is gonna be
They could add a steel type of coaster to the Christmas section. It would give that section of the park a huge lift.
Nah Legend is one of the craziest wooden roller coasters right now and the New Retrack has really done wonders for the ride Honestly I’d say for holiday world’s next two moves their next roller coaster really should be a family coaster possibly their second major steel coaster maybe something like a chance or vekoma mine train style ride or something like fire chaser express pretty much all of the roller coasters at the park are of a high to extreme intensity level and then after that I think they should build a ground up RMC hybrid or wood coaster or a raptor
A+ ride