Q Acoustics 3030i vs Monitor Audio Bronze 2 || Sound & Frequency Response Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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• Test Tracks
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-Sound recorded using pair of SE Electronics SE8 mics and Zoom H6 recorder
-Frequency measurements done in semi treated room using UMIK-1 microphone
-Levels matched using SPL meter
-All tone controls set to neutral
When A/B'ing bright speakers vs relaxed speakers, the bright speakers are usually what people think sounds better based on that comparison because it gives off the impression that it's clearer, more detailed, more open, etc. And it's absolutely valid if you like that sort of tonality, but the problem is that even people who would normally prefer a less bright pair might think the brighter pair sounds better in that moment. This is one of the reasons why audiophiles usually audition a speaker for weeks at a time before making a judgment.
IMO, the Monitor Audio Bronze 2 leans a bit too bright for my tastes and the Q Acoustics 3030i has a richer, more natural midrange and less sibilant highs that I much prefer for all the songs here except maybe for Metal Head. The dynamics on the MA Bronze 2 does seem better in Metal Head, but Q Acoustics don't seem that much further behind here. It does have a really warm tonality that I don't think metalheads would be looking for in their music, so if you like the in-your-face sound of a metal concert, the MA Bronze 2 would be much better for you than the 3030i. The MA Bronze 2 also seems to have a stronger thump to their bass, which I think prefer, especially bassheads and metalheads. Personally, I don't want that much thump in my bass as I find it painful. Q Acoustics 3030i is definitely the winner for me here.
In this video sound demo, to me, the Q's sounded clearer in the midbass but vocals were ever so slightly subdued, but over a wider range sounded more clear than the MA's. Downside was that they did sound a little boxy to me and not as 'airy'.
The MA's mids/high mids were more to my liking (vocals especially). Didn't find them too harsh though. But the bass somehow 'got in the way' of the clarity of the midbass. That was much better on the Q's.
Ps. I own the MA bronze 2's and they work well for my treated room. But still, if i were to choose between these speakers now i would have a hard time making the choice. If the Q's 'boxyness' would 'disappear' in my room and the highs wouldn't be subdued I'd probably go for the Q's now. Maybe replace first reflection point absorption with diffusion if i had the Q's... who knows.
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Metalhead here, the thing that's putting me off considering the MA is how bright they sound. I find repetative clashing of cymbals and snare an absolute nightmare if the speaker is too bright. Considering the Kef Q350 or Elac DBR62 but I am completely torn, was thinking about the MA Bronze or Silver 100 but I was quite put off by how the bronze sounds.
Most people do not understand what it is like to have a bright sounding speaker and its effects on long listening sessions.Metal dome tweeter,no thanks....
I'm metal head, and i like my metal very warm sounding. I listen to metal for long periods of time, so a bright sound makes it very tiring, and just generally sounds very irritating and horrible in my ears
An extremely clear test! Speaker switching was spot on. Thumbs up!
I auditioned 3020i, 3030i and 3050i. Among them 3030i sounded the worst to me. 3020i sounded more open and airy, but lacked punch and body(which could be fixed by a sub). Also the 3030i's bass sounded loose and smeared. But here in this test I noticed that the Bronze 2 and 3030i have almost identical midrange while the MA Bronze 2 sounds a bit more detailed in highs. The bass on the Bronze 2 seems much more controlled and sure footed, which clearly explains the dip in 100hz region of the 3030i.
Both speakers powered by Denon PMA-600NE amplifier. Signal fed from Matrix Mini-I DAC. No tone controls applied
> 11:42 < Detailed Frequency Response Graphs
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Would you recommend JBL 305 over these passives for home theatre? around 2 metres from listening position?
Finally ended up getting the MA Bronze 2 after listening to the 3000i series. Clarity, Details and Accuracy wise the Bronze 2 crushes the 3000i range, which has a relatively warm and laid back signature at the expense of details and clarity.
The q acoustics were actually closer to the original tracks. I much prefer the mid range and tweeters from the Q acoustics. The monitor Audios sounded to bright and i think i would get tired of listening to them after a long session.
The 3030i's are the clear winner for me. The bronze 2's are a little too bright and will sound harsh at higher volume levels. They almost sounded like they have a touch of reverb to them.
Thanks for great recording.
They both sound great. Now it depends on what kind of music you listen to. MA ssounds brighter and more spacious to me. QA’s tighter and deeper, sounds more solid. It’s hard to pick.
The qs have a warmer overall sound and their top end matches the source track. The 10khz lift on the bronze gives it a single note sounding top end. Their midbass is better though, doesnt sound hollowed out like the Qs. Id take the Qs.
I own MA Bronze 2 speakers. I own also Edifier DB350 Pro and I confirm that the recordings are absolutely fantastic, I recognize both speakers (as sound, personality) in this recordings.
Very good job!
Which speakers you think are better the MA or the Edifier ?
@@itzhakazoulay1271 I wouldn't call the Edifier's audiophile level, but for fun they are superb. They serve as 2.1 for TV (movies) and occasionally music. Take into account that my room/apartment is small, but they are loud enough that no neighbor sleeps if I don't want to :))
At my office I have the MA's (working alone). For pure audiophile sessions they are a sensation for everyone that visits me. I would say that they are not for base heads, and my pair has a sweet-spot in volume level where they sound exceptionally.
MA's is my choice, you choose for yourself :)
@@tcrystyan Hi, i am between the MA Bronze 2 and the s350db, considering that I will use it practically only for games and movies, which one would you consider a better option? Or do you recommend any other?
@@Billy-lb6gd games and movies - if you only have the budget for these items, then Edifier is probably the better choise. But if you want to upgrade in the future, MA 2 definitelly. They are more accurate and audiophile sounding.
I have both and enjoy both very very much! I also upgraded the MA 2 with a center channel and a subwoofer, and when it's movie time - it's the whole set, when is about music I go stereo >)
Q acoustics I would choose 🙂
The Bronze is a clear winner here more refinement,control and thought bass.The Q Acoustics completely Lost control on metal rock while the MA was fine also its Twitter is much better.
Thanks for this test !
I was ready to agree, but somehow the song DEEP got me second guessing. When I listen to the piano, on the Bronze, the high mids of the piano seem to get cloudy/disappear. Almost doesn't sound like a piano at all.
@@VirtualFreightDog I listened to 3030i personally, where I find their warm signature sometimes scattering details (in the mids) to the background...
Monitor audio wins I think only because it seems more sharper not loads but enough to here I like them both but monitor audio would be my choice after listening to this thank you for the video now I know what I want
The q Sounds much better in my opinion.
3030i's are the clear winner for me.
very well done test Thank you!
Hi! Very impressive this high quality recordings. What speaker cables do you use? Thank you!
Q Acoustics 3030i's arrived today and set them up on my amp. Replaced Audio Bronze BX1s which i bought when my Pioneer A400 amp gave up and my JBL speakers baffle went - wish I had got them fixed. Anyway, some questions: How do I get the best HIFI signal to my Cambridge Audio A5 amp from my phone at a budget price? Why does the source sound so much better than the speaker demos? I have good earphones and the best is the source by a long shot.
Great. Keep on with passive components too
Bought it, love it! Great bang for the buck. Needs a bright amp or tone control for highs but that may just be me. I crank up the treble considerably and the bass fractionally on my amp for the sound that I like but for most people, this would be a very balanced speaker. For better, you'd have to spend a lot more! Good looking and well finished too, nice terminals.
I appreciate your work, I've watched too many of your videos with high quality headphones. Most general all speakers sounds quite same with minor differences and hard to distinguish. But in reality, according to hifi my experiences, speakers from different brands sounds much more different, especially with mid-bass response. I think you must check your recording environment, maybe mics are too close!
One thing I've realized with the MA bronze 1 and 2 is that the bass is a little "disappointing" compared to other speakers with the same sized driver. They're 100% the loudest speakers in their size group though. The Bronze 50 got a bigger cabinet which was needed. Sadly, it's 450$ for me which is quite expensive compared to the bronze 1. Really considering an upgrade because I'm in love with the tweeter they're using, such relaxing treble, but not too dark either (the MA monitor 100 has gotten complaints about sounding too dark). Even though I've got an SVS PB-1000, I really enjoy using just the speakers with my NAD D3045.
Thinking of getting bronze 1s would you recommend these? Thinking these or 3020i's listen to blues music mainly
@@keefw361 I don't own the bronze 1's anymore, upgraded to the Klipsch RP-160M. But from what I remember, The bronze 1's are neutral(good for rooms with bad acoustic) That midrange is awesome for listening to Rock/metal music. But if I'd have to compare those two(never heard the 3020i's) I'd guess the 3020i goes lower and louder(in the bass department). The 3020i are warmer, with better overall bass, but the bronze 1 are sexy, more neutral(best for any type of music), but they shine when it comes to rock/metal, louder as in decibles. I'd personally go for the bronze 1s, but read some reviews and see if you can find some well recorded audio clips of those(just to get a taste of their bass, warmth etc. In my room the Bronze 1's went down to 45 - 42 Hz before dropping like a rock.
Thanks a million for the info. Ye I can get the bronze 1's at a bargain €120 while the 3020i are €200. It's hard to get many audio clips for the bronze 1s but the one I heard the clarity and treble sounds excellent kinda has that x factor on the high end. While the 3020i is solid and warm all round but while that's it's strength it's also its weakness as it doesn't have that edge. Really looking for clarity and to hear instrument nuances and separation. Edging towards bronze1s
@@keefw361 Good choice, I know I've said it a million times. But if/when you're getting them, just try some metal/rock music. Not a huge fan of metal/rock but that midrange driver is doing something special, also I've removed the driver a couple times, looks like a solid-ass drive... a huge magnet as well. It does, you can play any type of music as loud as you can physically take, and that tweeter never gets too bright or sharp. These would really benefit from a room with a peak at 35 - 50 Hz. I demoed them in my current room which has a 10 dB peak at 41 Hz, played Icarus by synthetic Epiphany and he thought for a split second that my dad's Infinity Kappa 70's were used as a sub to trick him (had the bronze 1's on top of them). I don't buy the Bronze 1's without even thinking about it, It's a small speaker, it has a 5,5" driver (bigger than 3020i), a smaller cabinet thought. It's tuned somewhere around 45 - 50 Hz if I'm not mistaken.
I have the monitor audio speakers and i used to love them, but the upper mids and treble have become to fatiguing now, rock music doesn't sound good, im now looking for something warmer sounding with deeper bass.
Check out wharfedale diamond 225 (if you find it).Warmer mids/highs and very deep bass.
Monitor audio ist little better.🎸🎵🎸🎵🎸🍻🙏🤘
B2 straight off the bat but wouldn't like to swap my Tannoys for either. Thanks.
Listening on a cheap speakers I can hear that Monitor audio Bronze 2 has more open natural sound.
Those Bronze 2's are a true bargain!
Yes they really are!
I just picked up a pair of the Bronze 2s for £159!
monitor audio much more detailed and larger sound
Monitor audio Bronze 2 won a lot of hi fi press awards, they are classics. Can find them at better price than 3030i now, so go for them. True valor.
Bronze 2 controls the bass better
The Q Acoustics sound less colored, while the MA sound like they have a resonance in the upper mids / lower treble.
The (apparent both in freq chart and actual audio) 1k hump on the Bronze 2's makes them less appealing sound-wise to me, on first impression anyway.
Concept 20 or MA Bronze 2 ?
My ears must be knackered as they both sound the same to me. That's what 13 years of firing a rifle without ear defenders will do to you.
Edit: just put some headphones on and the difference is noticable.
PSA: use headphones.
The MA sounds more natural and realistic, the Q sounds more artificial and canned
Same sound for me..
Muy buenas las 2 , pero me quedo con MAbx2 , por ese extra de claridad que tienen en los metales y el puerto de graves frontal . Buen video .
They stopped making the Monitor 2's???
How does the sound compare to Edifier R1600/1700/1850?
Hi,what is better 3050 or bookshelf speaker 3030i ?
How are Q Acoustics for desktop, near field listening? I'm looking at the smaller 3020i with 5" woofer. Currently have Mackie MR524 studio monitors on my desk, partly thanks to Digital Stereophony awesome videos. MR524 are great no doubt about it for the money but are "budget" studio monitors, and am considering upgrading for better music listening. Would consider passives. As the QA are "bookshelf" speakers, would they work near field?
Q Acoustics passive speakers are good for nearfield listening. I have a pair of 2010i which I use with my computer and from 30 cm distance they sound as good as they do from 3 - 4 meters distance. The 3020i would be better than my 2010i, even in nearfield position.
I don't know what is wrong with your Mackie MR524 though. Maybe you should audition a pair of Q Acoustics speakers before upgrading to them. Maybe they aren't much of an improvement over the Mackie's. And maybe you should consider buying the Concept 20's instead, I have read that they sound better than the 3020i, although I have never heard the 3020i so I can't comment on that. The Concept 20's are a bit more expensive than the 3020i, but might be more of an upgrade.
Can audiophiles decide about Comparing setup for LCR ie (3030i and 3090i) vs ( dali oberon 1 and dali oberon vokal) which one would be winner for 50% music and 50% movie/show
Ended up getting deli oberon 5 to use with my yamaha r-n803d sounds great
Lacking of 200-400Hz on MA is audible.
Can you please review the JBL nano k4 (JBL k series studio monitors) ! There is no review of these studio monitors on the internet ! It will be a great help !
These are for 3rd world hellholes and likely not availiable in Poland. Also as a product catering to 3rd world sensibilities I bet they aren't worth bothering with.
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MA по-маштабнее будут. И в "Белиссимо" барабанные палочки отчётливее слышны у МА.
Q Acoustics have more natural timbre.
Q acoustics is generally muddy
More mid details from Bronze audio
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Vs Audioengine a5+ please
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A pointless comparison. The MAs are three times the price of the QAs and obviously sound much better. Why not compare the QAs to something else in their price range?
They cost about the same
Bronz 2 немного выигрывает
Обе не фонтан...
Монитор аудио ко всему ещё и ядовитые на верхах....
Почему на записи такое плохое отношение сихнал/шум?
Слушаю такие, отличные за свои деньги! ВЧ прекрасны