@@aquatheneptunewolf1115she was bitchy, but that was realistic for someone who lost everything for the second time. A lot is removed the way she is handled now.
Yukari; has obvious PTSD from her dad dying and is close to Makoto because he saved her life plus was there for her when she learned the truth about her dad. Fanbase: I missed the part where that’s my problem.
No...impossible! Love??? Wait wait wait... she's a girl who has...emotions!? A character with flaws that isn't afraid to show the ugly side of human nature when it comes to what means the most to them!? AND it aids in her character development!?!? N- nO! GET HER AWAY FROM MEEE! 😭🏃💨
Yukari really loved him so much 😢😢😢😢😢😢 so sad and painful. She really did have much feelings for him. Makoto is my favorite persona mc. Sacrificing himself to save the world and his friends to become a door to keep Nyx sealed away forever to protect everyone
I'm sorry but the transition was like a dumb Tik Tok meme, like 1 second I'm chill but then they hit you with the 'song' and now you're balling you're eyes out praying to God for mercy.
had to look back on p3fes ver. and realized it's similar like reload except the music was lagged behind for a 3sec after the falling, yet it feels so much better to look at i love how such a little different can give a significant impact
I kinda like both versions of this scene. The newer version show us that the rest of SEES not only Mitsuru understand the pain Yukari is going through. But the older version had one of my favorite moments of p3 when Yukari tries one more time to steal the Key but fails and explains that she also made a promise to the MC while holding his cold hand. Personally she is not one of my favorite characters in the franchise, but she got my respect after this scene in both versions
Idk how that's a favorite moment tbh, I think is proves she snaps and she's stupid for almost dooming the world but that's because I just think the Answer sucks regardless tbf I only came here to see some of the differences...glad I didn't waste money on this tbh...unless they actually do something different for the end it just hurts the original stories end...for an Aigis show.
@@ferzum7290 yeah- this scene loses something for Yukari without her trying to pry the key. Also, I feel the voice performance for Yukari took a substantial hit here in the remake. Mind you, this scene is still by no means bad, but this just doesn’t compare.
Still, even if the raw emotion of Yukari's grief of wanting to see Makoto again was toned down for this scene, I can really tell how much grief she's feeling after watching this scene a second time. Overall, Yukari is still the tritagonist of "Episode Aigis". Mitsuru comforting Yukari was my favorite part of the scene and how she gave Yukari a hug and let her cry her feelings out.
Yukari trying to take the key should have stayed in. It sucks that they removed it just because people couldn’t understand where she was coming from and they think she should overcome her grief in 3 days like the phantom thieves were able to in persona 5. Hopefully they add it back, but we’ll see. I don’t think they should have tried to make yukari “likeable”. I think her original arc in FES felt more human and relatable
Atlus really said "Our fans lack media literacy and don't realize that anger - sometimes even lashing out at friends and family - is a part of grief, so we're going to nerf Yukari in Episode: Aigis"
Long story short, the VA did a hell of a lot better this time around. But the direction of the cutscene itself is… eh? All jokes aside, this part solidifies Yukari as the most accepted canon love interest for Makoto. And that is especially proven by the fact that Yukari was the only one to act like this when faced with the choice to see him again.
@@WL-bs4nc people have been commenting for years that she was a b*tch in this scene, but I thought that was an accurate description of grief. This time: it felt more like a show of defeat. She was beaten and all she had left was loss.
@@ammarahhussaini3126 I guess? But like, Mituru has zero romantic implications in the story nor in dynamic compared to Yukari and Aigis so it's kinda weird.
@@ShadowOfMassDestructionYeah, you have a point it’s not just Mitsuru but even Fukka who sounds gloomy and even abruptly mentioning MC during her navigation routes and not to mention Ken bursting into tears during Yukari’s breakdown so I guess they want to show SEEs grief in general, I think.
Too bad for her MC clearly loved Aigis considering • He happily spend his last moments with her • She inherited his Wild Card • Aigis has tons of Offical Art with MC compared Yukari • Movies • Aigis was so sad that she literally Shut herself down to the point her emotions being an entirely different person and trying to help her to get over MC's death
@@mightymoon67911 Dude is dying, slipping from consciousness, and barely able to stand on his two feet. Yukari in og answer already said her piece about being by his side making her promise to him holding his cold hand. Saying that rooftop scene makes them canon is like saying Joker and Violet is canon because of their showtime, you're skipping a thousand steps there buddy. 2.Inheriting the wild card has nothing to do with romance, that is akin to a force of nature. 3. Aigis is a mascot and stands as much of the face of P3 as Makoto, that means nothing towards romance. There are plenty Anime where the romance is literally a side character not to mention recent Reload art throws this statement out the window. 4. What credibility do the movies hold when they don't even care about the other character developments just to shove Aigis and Ryoji in Makoto's face as if they are the only ones to aid his development, the complete opposite of the games. 5. We're really just gonna sit here and ignore the fact Yukari is willing to sacrifice the world to see him again? That's not worth mentioning huh? All of this is just bias bro. I get it, you like you're ship, but arguing canon romance in a jrpg is always gonna result in your downfall.
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction Sure Sure Ending proves a lot There is a good reason why Yukari is jealous And Yukari and Aigis are different type of people Yukari has 17 years of life experience Aigis has few months of it She had being with Makoto as her purpose in life just for Makoto to pass away She shut herself down Aigis only didn't reacted in similar matter with Yukari because her feelings werent there anymore because they became Metis There is a pretty good reason why Atlus picked Aigis as the one in March 5th
@@mightymoon6791 Your making the same arguments as the people who say Rise is canon because she's a simp to Narukami, like yeah okay, surface level romantic implication means canon romance in your eyes I guess. But I could name like five different Anime that does the similar rooftop thing. In fact, let me do a direct comparison. Shinobu Oshino: Poster girl with the MC, Blond, immortal, is involved with the depressed "wants no friends" MC and his tragic past and the reason why he has his power, is not human and needs to discover her meaning for life and death, is by the MC's side at all times and she holds him in her arms as he's injured spouting how she will always be by his side and will carry on his memory. Oh wait? Hold on... She's not his chosen lover? Wait, wait, he chose Hitagi because she's an emotional girl with parent issues but she is completely separated from those issues he has to deal with and that gives him peace of mind? Zaaamn son. See, none of what you said makes anything canon. Love goes in all sorts of directions, it's not some stagnant predictable thing that's educated by a couple pictures and a scene. Aigis barely does anything throughout the story while Yukari is constant, the Aigis rooftop scene can be taken as "romantic sure" but it's to summarize the game's themes of life and death in a neat little package more than anything else.
Yeah no, Yukari not fighting for the key is a Reload change that I just can't defend. I like Reload's base-game additions, but the answer seems more mixed to me sadly
Same. This happened definitely because of the whiny dudes complaining about Yukari being "bitchy" for a decade and Atlus overcorrected her character writing. Congrats, worst part of the persona fandom.
@@hornetsilksong The thing is, Yukari still gets angry at SEES, and asks to fight them. So this transition is just plain jarring. I don't even think the Yukari haters are gonna like her more even with this change...
@@ChiangKai-Shrek It's so weird because even in the base Journey they toned her down but kept her rashness intact. They could've just did what they did there and tweaked it a little, removing it entirely feels unnecessary.
Honestly it feels weird she not tries take the Key from Aigis in this scene like the original did It makes me Understands very well How Yukari despertley tried to bring back Makoto. She didn't give a damm about the consuquences by going to the past and then there's a chance she can screwed the Timeline or anything that shouldn't be happend in the past. She just want Makoto to be alive again.
I never saw the original but clearly there was enough backlash that Atlus decided to change it. I'm guessing the people crying about it now are just the vocal minority.
Yeah, I'm with the comments here I don't like how Yukari doesn't try to get the key out of Aegis' hands. How can an old game from the PS2 that's almost 20 years old convey better emotion via body language than this? I *will* say that Yukari's VA here did a phenomenal job & i like Mitsuru's additional lines as well... Is it bad that i kinda ship them?
Most likely becahse the fandom was complaining about yukari being a bitch for trying to take le key for 20 ish years (Even though her trying to take the key was incredibly valid and makes sense)
is it just me or the original actually kinda shows Yukari has canonical romantic feelings for Makoto? This one feels a little bit toned down, so as to focus more on the entire team.
I haven't played the original, but I would say this version also shows it. Throughout the Journey, she gets jealous of other girls getting close to Makoto even if Makoto doesn't romance her. Of course she gets jealous that Aigis is the one that was there in his final moments and "inherits" his power. And here it is shown she's willing to fight Nyx again and possibly doom humanity just to try to save Makoto. He literally meant the world to her and she was willing to do anything to bring him back.
After watching both versions, I think while missing Yukari grabbing for the key sucks, there are some parts I do like about this one more. I like how when she breaks down in this version, she has a bit of a tantrum, her animation has her throwing her arms, hitting her legs because she has so much anger. The reason she'd stolen the key from Aigis in the original was because Aigis hadn't shown her resolve, but in this version, Aigis is confident in her choice going into the fight, and Yukari can see that in the beginning, whereas in the original she states, "you don't know what you want to do with the key right? So give it to me!" Or something like that. Even with the slight context changes, I still would have liked to see Yukari take it, seeing as she's desperate, but I don't mind this version.
i dont like how she was more to herself in this arc compared to the original. this is how i see it: new p3: aigis, pls go back to the past instead, i miss him, he was a good friend of mine! old p3: aigis give me that key, im going to past and you cant stop me. cant you see I MISS him? i loved him far more than ANY OF YOU this scene lacking yukaris anger and desperation really took away the impact from this whole story, not just this scene. which is unfortunate cause in the original, this scene had yukari showing all stages of grief. also they removed her saying "its a promise i made myself while holding his cold hand" you can really picture it in your head which is also a waste cause her voice actress really nailed it
It honestly wouldn't be that bad if she quickly collapsed after the fight and they just cut out that first line of dialogue. It makes no sense and it's a total whiplash. It really feels like Atlas had a quota of "Yukari has to say at least one nice thing" every couple of lines. They can't make her too confrontational because they're terrified of any sort of negative reaction from the audience, just poor choices imo
Right? I rather see her flaws, her raw emotions of fighting for something she desperately wanted. Her still being nice in the end, kinda ruins a part of the growth. Her negative attitude in the original, made her better as it shows her human side facing with a decision that can totally change the outcome, even though it is selfish.
I finished Episode Aigis yesterday, feeling like it was an overall great experience, with Yukari being the standout amongst the group. I thought the way Atlus handled her was awesome, you know, her having 10 years of deep emotional trauma and trust and attachment issues, only to have the only person she trusted and that helped her get through all her problems suddenly die, just to less than a month later get thrown in the same old shit you did for the last year.. That's obviously gonna fuck up anyone, specially Yukari, so I totally understood her (albeit flawed) point of going back. She just wants to be with Makoto, she doesn't care about anything or anyone else at this moment. So imagine my surprise when I got online and saw people... Hating her? I was like have you not played the main game? The game explain all I said and then more, the DLC is just the crashout of her emotions dude What's even funnier to me it's that people love Yukari in the main game, but somehow hate her in the DLC, when like I said, same character, just after she lost hope. I mean put yourselves in her shoes for crying out loud, she was the member of Sees that was the closest to Makoto, more than anyone else, it's like accepted that romancing her not only is the best romance option, but also the cannon one. Having this in mind, wouldn't you also want to go back to the one person in the world that made you feel like life was worth living? Even if you know the decision is objectively wrong? The Persona Fanbase is weird dude, they can do a full 180 on a character only because "hurr durr she acts like a bitch"
Yeah… unfortunately this feels like the equivalent of playing Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes after having already played the original Metal Gear Solid; the HD remake just doesn’t quite capture the magic of the original game. Update: If that analogy didn’t work for everyone, then how about this: this is basically the equivalent of that Harry Potter Dumbledore asked calmly meme where Dumbledore asked Harry if he put his name into the Goblet of Fire in a calm and civilized manner, unlike the movie adaptation where he asks him angrily and threateningly which people see as an unnecessary change.
people angry at the changes in yukari's relationship acting as if up to this point everyone was badmouthing yukari and hating her sorry but if you hated yukari in the original the answer you have no right to complain about the changes
After a decade people finally have woken up to why Yukari was being very bitchy and now are complaining why she isn’t great job to everyone who actually understood the scene before and didn’t need the reload dlc to drop to understand why
People hated this being changed? I honestly think this improves the scene since it not only makes Yukari more sympathetic, but doesn't ruin Metis in the process by not having her give forced exposition like she did before the fights.
lmao that drop on the floor. Yeah, it's not terrible but the OG did it way better. Never had a problem with Yukari at all, she's the most realistic character in this game lol.
Man no matter how many times i replay this video, it still doesn't hit that hard compared to the original. Im actually sad they removed something that made the answer an interesting dlc 😢
i don't think the problem with this scene lies in the fact that she doesn't take the key (though i think that does make it somewhat more impactful) i think the problem lies in the fact that she basically just says "so..." and then drops. on the fucking floor. i know aigis already told yukari her feelings but she wasn't tearing up or anything. they could've added a few lines to maybe not make this scene as impactful as the original, but at the very least not turn this scene into something awful
Yukari in The Answer was a great character. I'd dare say she was the best character in the game. I believed that 15 years ago, and I'll still die on that hill. The Answer had huge pacing issues in general and all characters suffered cause of it, but Yukari was great. I loved that we had someone in the party who was hostile. It always bugged me that a lot of people didn't like her in that game. Episode Aigis Yukari is a bit blander as a character. I don't understand what they were going for with these changes. I would recommend anyone who has never played this game, to play the FES version, and not this version. I would recommend FES over reload, as well. This was a disappointing remake. I regret dropping $70 on reload.
What a shame that they had to completely erased what made her so humane all because Persona's manchild fanbase has no understanding of writing and storytelling and thinks women have to be "approachable" and show no kind of negative feelings a human supposed to have.
Wow y'all people are being petty over this, huh? First no female version, now changes in this version compared to the old version geez you guys are stubborn as hell 😅
@@genericname4168 As an og enjoyer watching it not happen was so incredibly jarring when I just see her unceremoniously drop to her knees. Not only does it feel unnatural to me but the impact is lessened a lot, I'm a person who LOVES flawed characters overcome their flaws in media. Yukari trying to snatch Aigis' key to Metis telling her that there is no point to having Yukari then slowly drop down in tears felt like she was defeated in every sense of the word. Here the scene feels like it's going off the script of a poorly acted play or something...
Not that this scene is bad, but a lot is removed by her just not trying to get the key. Curse you for cowarding to those critics that knew nothing of how unpredictable the human heart is.
They can, Tomb Raider 1 did it, in fact, those kind of decision is rarer by comparison cause the devs aren't stuck up overcrowded workers with ass wipe of a CEO
![Persona 3: Reload [Episode: Aigis] | The Answer](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2iDo8PNLiHs/mqdefault.jpg)
Atlus really took the criticism towards Yukari too seriously...
The problem was she was bitchy and understandably wise she was closed to the mc and was hiding everything now she just feels generic
@@aquatheneptunewolf1115she was bitchy, but that was realistic for someone who lost everything for the second time. A lot is removed the way she is handled now.
And not for the better imho.
@@Mojo1356 thats what i came to appreciate the realism of her action
@@Vla2972 not when it actually was done to be more in line with the original Japanese.
Yukari; has obvious PTSD from her dad dying and is close to Makoto because he saved her life plus was there for her when she learned the truth about her dad.
Fanbase: I missed the part where that’s my problem.
No...impossible! Love??? Wait wait wait... she's a girl who has...emotions!? A character with flaws that isn't afraid to show the ugly side of human nature when it comes to what means the most to them!? AND it aids in her character development!?!? N- nO! GET HER AWAY FROM MEEE! 😭🏃💨
Fanbase: This girl inconvenienced me with a boss fight in this video game.
@@ShadowOfMassDestructionYeah we gotta go find another mass murdering POS to defend because he “had a point” or something.
@@ShadowOfMassDestructionYeah, we only have time to sympathize with cartoonishly evil villains because they “have a point” or something.
Ouch! That's cold, bro. 😢
Yukari really loved him so much 😢😢😢😢😢😢 so sad and painful. She really did have much feelings for him. Makoto is my favorite persona mc. Sacrificing himself to save the world and his friends to become a door to keep Nyx sealed away forever to protect everyone
I find Yukari suddenly falling to the floor with sad music really funny compared to the original. I do really like Mitsuru’s addition lines.
I'm sorry but the transition was like a dumb Tik Tok meme, like 1 second I'm chill but then they hit you with the 'song' and now you're balling you're eyes out praying to God for mercy.
had to look back on p3fes ver. and realized it's similar like reload except the music was lagged behind for a 3sec after the falling, yet it feels so much better to look at
i love how such a little different can give a significant impact
I remember in a video someone bought up that Mitsuru most likely
did not full agree but wanted to stick by Yukari regardless
@@snakekingblues3017 A lot of the characters motivation for fighting each other is very questionable tbh
@@charlierawwr you think so?
i feel like it was fine not prefect or anything but fine
people have fought with each other in real life for far less
I kinda like both versions of this scene. The newer version show us that the rest of SEES not only Mitsuru understand the pain Yukari is going through. But the older version had one of my favorite moments of p3 when Yukari tries one more time to steal the Key but fails and explains that she also made a promise to the MC while holding his cold hand.
Personally she is not one of my favorite characters in the franchise, but she got my respect after this scene in both versions
Idk how that's a favorite moment tbh, I think is proves she snaps and she's stupid for almost dooming the world but that's because I just think the Answer sucks regardless tbf I only came here to see some of the differences...glad I didn't waste money on this tbh...unless they actually do something different for the end it just hurts the original stories end...for an Aigis show.
@@ferzum7290 yeah- this scene loses something for Yukari without her trying to pry the key. Also, I feel the voice performance for Yukari took a substantial hit here in the remake.
Mind you, this scene is still by no means bad, but this just doesn’t compare.
Oh man This scene made me cover my face in tears sobbing while listening to the dialogue, Mitsuru’s Lines after made it hit even more home.
Still, even if the raw emotion of Yukari's grief of wanting to see Makoto again was toned down for this scene, I can really tell how much grief she's feeling after watching this scene a second time. Overall, Yukari is still the tritagonist of "Episode Aigis". Mitsuru comforting Yukari was my favorite part of the scene and how she gave Yukari a hug and let her cry her feelings out.
“Tritagonist”
Yukari trying to take the key should have stayed in. It sucks that they removed it just because people couldn’t understand where she was coming from and they think she should overcome her grief in 3 days like the phantom thieves were able to in persona 5. Hopefully they add it back, but we’ll see. I don’t think they should have tried to make yukari “likeable”. I think her original arc in FES felt more human and relatable
Atlus really said "Our fans lack media literacy and don't realize that anger - sometimes even lashing out at friends and family - is a part of grief, so we're going to nerf Yukari in Episode: Aigis"
Long story short, the VA did a hell of a lot better this time around. But the direction of the cutscene itself is… eh?
All jokes aside, this part solidifies Yukari as the most accepted canon love interest for Makoto. And that is especially proven by the fact that Yukari was the only one to act like this when faced with the choice to see him again.
@@WL-bs4nc people have been commenting for years that she was a b*tch in this scene, but I thought that was an accurate description of grief. This time: it felt more like a show of defeat. She was beaten and all she had left was loss.
But yeah. Yukari and Aigis are both his canon love choices
After seeing this scene,Mitsuru seems to be a close contender as well.
@@ammarahhussaini3126 I guess? But like, Mituru has zero romantic implications in the story nor in dynamic compared to Yukari and Aigis so it's kinda weird.
@@ShadowOfMassDestructionYeah, you have a point it’s not just Mitsuru but even Fukka who sounds gloomy and even abruptly mentioning MC during her navigation routes and not to mention Ken bursting into tears during Yukari’s breakdown so I guess they want to show SEEs grief in general, I think.
She really misses him and loved makoto from the beginning
Too bad for her
MC clearly loved Aigis considering
• He happily spend his last moments with her
• She inherited his Wild Card
• Aigis has tons of Offical Art with MC compared Yukari
• Movies
• Aigis was so sad that she literally Shut herself down to the point her emotions being an entirely different person and trying to help her to get over MC's death
@@mightymoon67911 Dude is dying, slipping from consciousness, and barely able to stand on his two feet. Yukari in og answer already said her piece about being by his side making her promise to him holding his cold hand. Saying that rooftop scene makes them canon is like saying Joker and Violet is canon because of their showtime, you're skipping a thousand steps there buddy.
2.Inheriting the wild card has nothing to do with romance, that is akin to a force of nature.
3. Aigis is a mascot and stands as much of the face of P3 as Makoto, that means nothing towards romance. There are plenty Anime where the romance is literally a side character not to mention recent Reload art throws this statement out the window.
4. What credibility do the movies hold when they don't even care about the other character developments just to shove Aigis and Ryoji in Makoto's face as if they are the only ones to aid his development, the complete opposite of the games.
5. We're really just gonna sit here and ignore the fact Yukari is willing to sacrifice the world to see him again? That's not worth mentioning huh?
All of this is just bias bro. I get it, you like you're ship, but arguing canon romance in a jrpg is always gonna result in your downfall.
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction Sure Sure
Ending proves a lot
There is a good reason why Yukari is jealous
And Yukari and Aigis are different type of people
Yukari has 17 years of life experience
Aigis has few months of it
She had being with Makoto as her purpose in life just for Makoto to pass away
She shut herself down
Aigis only didn't reacted in similar matter with Yukari because her feelings werent there anymore because they became Metis
There is a pretty good reason why Atlus picked Aigis as the one in March 5th
@@mightymoon6791 Your making the same arguments as the people who say Rise is canon because she's a simp to Narukami, like yeah okay, surface level romantic implication means canon romance in your eyes I guess. But I could name like five different Anime that does the similar rooftop thing. In fact, let me do a direct comparison.
Shinobu Oshino: Poster girl with the MC, Blond, immortal, is involved with the depressed "wants no friends" MC and his tragic past and the reason why he has his power, is not human and needs to discover her meaning for life and death, is by the MC's side at all times and she holds him in her arms as he's injured spouting how she will always be by his side and will carry on his memory.
Oh wait? Hold on... She's not his chosen lover? Wait, wait, he chose Hitagi because she's an emotional girl with parent issues but she is completely separated from those issues he has to deal with and that gives him peace of mind? Zaaamn son.
See, none of what you said makes anything canon. Love goes in all sorts of directions, it's not some stagnant predictable thing that's educated by a couple pictures and a scene. Aigis barely does anything throughout the story while Yukari is constant, the Aigis rooftop scene can be taken as "romantic sure" but it's to summarize the game's themes of life and death in a neat little package more than anything else.
@@mightymoon6791i find it sad no one liked your reply. I guess they already learned that comments like these are just baits
Yukari not fighting for the key removes a lot of weight feom this scene.
@@shiningjustice4147 Why remove the moment anyway?!
@@Digidragon55 My guess is because of the fan backlash from back in the day.
@@shiningjustice4147 Wait, she got backlashed?! For wanting to move backwards!
I had a feeling Yukari Snatching the Key was a little outta character for her but then again can you really blame her?
@@kai_s.hazaki289 Eh, not really. When you find out you can go back and save someone while still grieving, id probably go back in time too.
Yeah no, Yukari not fighting for the key is a Reload change that I just can't defend. I like Reload's base-game additions, but the answer seems more mixed to me sadly
Same. This happened definitely because of the whiny dudes complaining about Yukari being "bitchy" for a decade and Atlus overcorrected her character writing. Congrats, worst part of the persona fandom.
Never let those Fraudsona fans cook ever again...
Never cook again
@@hornetsilksong The thing is, Yukari still gets angry at SEES, and asks to fight them. So this transition is just plain jarring. I don't even think the Yukari haters are gonna like her more even with this change...
@@ChiangKai-Shrek It's so weird because even in the base Journey they toned her down but kept her rashness intact. They could've just did what they did there and tweaked it a little, removing it entirely feels unnecessary.
Honestly it feels weird she not tries take the Key from Aigis in this scene like the original did
It makes me Understands very well How Yukari despertley tried to bring back Makoto.
She didn't give a damm about the consuquences by going to the past and then there's a chance she can screwed the Timeline or anything that shouldn't be happend in the past.
She just want Makoto to be alive again.
Shoutout to Yukari’s new VA selling the absolute HELL out of this scene
Meh, I thought Michelle Ruff did a better job with this scene than Yukari’s new actress.
@@matth6163you prefer monotone bitch Yukari?
@@matth6163 Nah, i prefer this new actress.
Her voice is great, but the original direction was far much better. Her last ditch effort to fight for the key made her character more impactful.
She better get up and go grab that key! Wtf 😭
@@Rutawind Well if she did that, won’t that release Nyx again?
Fandom: Yukari is too annoying
Atlus: *removes the scene they were talking about*
Fandom: 😮
I never saw the original but clearly there was enough backlash that Atlus decided to change it. I'm guessing the people crying about it now are just the vocal minority.
@@cottonmather1969
Go and watch persona 3 the answer on here and then come back tell us your thoughts
ATLUS shouldn't have caved into a bunch of high schoolers who have no concept of what it means to be a human at that very moment.
aww my wife breakdown in full 4kHD is so cute
@@Megalodon.666 find god nigga
Nooo she didn't try to steal the key! I love that moment so much :(
Yeah, I'm with the comments here
I don't like how Yukari doesn't try to get the key out of Aegis' hands. How can an old game from the PS2 that's almost 20 years old convey better emotion via body language than this?
I *will* say that Yukari's VA here did a phenomenal job & i like Mitsuru's additional lines as well... Is it bad that i kinda ship them?
Thank Yukari haters for complaining about how much of a "b*tch she is" for nearly 2 goddamn decades.
Most likely becahse the fandom was complaining about yukari being a bitch for trying to take le key for 20 ish years
(Even though her trying to take the key was incredibly valid and makes sense)
2:08 Oh lord I've just coming down with the case of the Vapours
She just fell there.....
is it just me or the original actually kinda shows Yukari has canonical romantic feelings for Makoto? This one feels a little bit toned down, so as to focus more on the entire team.
I haven't played the original, but I would say this version also shows it. Throughout the Journey, she gets jealous of other girls getting close to Makoto even if Makoto doesn't romance her. Of course she gets jealous that Aigis is the one that was there in his final moments and "inherits" his power. And here it is shown she's willing to fight Nyx again and possibly doom humanity just to try to save Makoto. He literally meant the world to her and she was willing to do anything to bring him back.
After watching both versions, I think while missing Yukari grabbing for the key sucks, there are some parts I do like about this one more. I like how when she breaks down in this version, she has a bit of a tantrum, her animation has her throwing her arms, hitting her legs because she has so much anger. The reason she'd stolen the key from Aigis in the original was because Aigis hadn't shown her resolve, but in this version, Aigis is confident in her choice going into the fight, and Yukari can see that in the beginning, whereas in the original she states, "you don't know what you want to do with the key right? So give it to me!" Or something like that.
Even with the slight context changes, I still would have liked to see Yukari take it, seeing as she's desperate, but I don't mind this version.
Hmm. I like both versions! I get that the key thing was a powerful scene but I also think her VA was better here than FES
i dont like how she was more to herself in this arc compared to the original. this is how i see it:
new p3: aigis, pls go back to the past instead, i miss him, he was a good friend of mine!
old p3: aigis give me that key, im going to past and you cant stop me. cant you see I MISS him? i loved him far more than ANY OF YOU
this scene lacking yukaris anger and desperation really took away the impact from this whole story, not just this scene. which is unfortunate cause in the original, this scene had yukari showing all stages of grief.
also they removed her saying "its a promise i made myself while holding his cold hand" you can really picture it in your head
which is also a waste cause her voice actress really nailed it
It would be amazing and touching if yukari use diarahan on herself which symbolized her dedication to go back in time
Yukari in the old version was so stubborn back then
The ending didn't get me but Yukari's breakdown did.
Yeah, new Yukari VA nailed this. Mitsuru as well. I liked FES version a lot as well but after watching this like 10 times i like this one better.
It honestly wouldn't be that bad if she quickly collapsed after the fight and they just cut out that first line of dialogue. It makes no sense and it's a total whiplash. It really feels like Atlas had a quota of "Yukari has to say at least one nice thing" every couple of lines. They can't make her too confrontational because they're terrified of any sort of negative reaction from the audience, just poor choices imo
Right? I rather see her flaws, her raw emotions of fighting for something she desperately wanted. Her still being nice in the end, kinda ruins a part of the growth. Her negative attitude in the original, made her better as it shows her human side facing with a decision that can totally change the outcome, even though it is selfish.
I finished Episode Aigis yesterday, feeling like it was an overall great experience, with Yukari being the standout amongst the group. I thought the way Atlus handled her was awesome, you know, her having 10 years of deep emotional trauma and trust and attachment issues, only to have the only person she trusted and that helped her get through all her problems suddenly die, just to less than a month later get thrown in the same old shit you did for the last year.. That's obviously gonna fuck up anyone, specially Yukari, so I totally understood her (albeit flawed) point of going back. She just wants to be with Makoto, she doesn't care about anything or anyone else at this moment.
So imagine my surprise when I got online and saw people... Hating her? I was like have you not played the main game? The game explain all I said and then more, the DLC is just the crashout of her emotions dude
What's even funnier to me it's that people love Yukari in the main game, but somehow hate her in the DLC, when like I said, same character, just after she lost hope. I mean put yourselves in her shoes for crying out loud, she was the member of Sees that was the closest to Makoto, more than anyone else, it's like accepted that romancing her not only is the best romance option, but also the cannon one. Having this in mind, wouldn't you also want to go back to the one person in the world that made you feel like life was worth living? Even if you know the decision is objectively wrong?
The Persona Fanbase is weird dude, they can do a full 180 on a character only because "hurr durr she acts like a bitch"
Maruki revived him, and I let you have your reality.
Best scene in episode Aigis... IT'S SO PEAKKKKKKKK MY HEARTTTT 😭
We men of culture who chose Mitsuru and Yukari are eating good
And crying our hearts out 😭
I just finished that fight...
I'm so sad for them rn...
She loved that boi
Her not wrestling the key from Aigis just lessened the impact of this scene damn. The only good addition was Mitsuru's lines.
Yeah… unfortunately this feels like the equivalent of playing Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes after having already played the original Metal Gear Solid; the HD remake just doesn’t quite capture the magic of the original game.
Update: If that analogy didn’t work for everyone, then how about this: this is basically the equivalent of that Harry Potter Dumbledore asked calmly meme where Dumbledore asked Harry if he put his name into the Goblet of Fire in a calm and civilized manner, unlike the movie adaptation where he asks him angrily and threateningly which people see as an unnecessary change.
I am so glad I never got this game if THIS was how they'd reduce everyone's characters.
Best girl
To this day I want a P3 The Answer movie. It's fucking baffling they adapted P3 into a movie but not The Answer
people angry at the changes in yukari's relationship acting as if up to this point everyone was badmouthing yukari and hating her
sorry
but if you hated yukari in the original the answer you have no right to complain about the changes
Yeah. P3 fans are very difficult. I prefer Reload Yukari over original Yukari
After a decade people finally have woken up to why Yukari was being very bitchy and now are complaining why she isn’t great job to everyone who actually understood the scene before and didn’t need the reload dlc to drop to understand why
People hated this being changed? I honestly think this improves the scene since it not only makes Yukari more sympathetic, but doesn't ruin Metis in the process by not having her give forced exposition like she did before the fights.
True
Honestly i like this change a lot better for Yukari.
Removes the impact
I really wish they had yukari hit aigis like in the original
wow como hacen para que no le caiga hate a yuka, impresionante atlus
Dude at least make her had a hiccup or something. Not just plop her down on her knee in 0.5 sec. That just looks comical
lmao that drop on the floor. Yeah, it's not terrible but the OG did it way better. Never had a problem with Yukari at all, she's the most realistic character in this game lol.
They really made this scene worst it really removes weight and impact from yukaris character
They remove the Gimme that Key that TBH very cringed.
Man no matter how many times i replay this video, it still doesn't hit that hard compared to the original. Im actually sad they removed something that made the answer an interesting dlc 😢
i don't think the problem with this scene lies in the fact that she doesn't take the key (though i think that does make it somewhat more impactful)
i think the problem lies in the fact that she basically just says "so..." and then drops. on the fucking floor. i know aigis already told yukari her feelings but she wasn't tearing up or anything. they could've added a few lines to maybe not make this scene as impactful as the original, but at the very least not turn this scene into something awful
Me hace mucha gracia como se cae de la nada. En el FES tiene mas sentido esto.
Yukari in The Answer was a great character. I'd dare say she was the best character in the game. I believed that 15 years ago, and I'll still die on that hill. The Answer had huge pacing issues in general and all characters suffered cause of it, but Yukari was great. I loved that we had someone in the party who was hostile. It always bugged me that a lot of people didn't like her in that game.
Episode Aigis Yukari is a bit blander as a character. I don't understand what they were going for with these changes.
I would recommend anyone who has never played this game, to play the FES version, and not this version. I would recommend FES over reload, as well. This was a disappointing remake. I regret dropping $70 on reload.
Atlus should fix this cutscene and just bring back the original ASAP
Someone better put this voice over the original scene. It just felt empty here
What a shame that they had to completely erased what made her so humane all because Persona's manchild fanbase has no understanding of writing and storytelling and thinks women have to be "approachable" and show no kind of negative feelings a human supposed to have.
Who is she talking about
😢
The best video game I have ever seen with the worst, dumbest and most amateur ending I have ever seen. Perfectly balanced.
Better this version, the words of mitsuru
Defeated Yukari with the power of love 😘
Wow y'all people are being petty over this, huh? First no female version, now changes in this version compared to the old version geez you guys are stubborn as hell 😅
It is not pettiness. It was more powerful before because Yukari had a personality.
FES is just a better version of this game, and is a lot cheaper. So, I think the criticisms are valid.
@@anewfutureI know people are going to attack you for this take but just know that I'm with you and that I'm your shield, get behind me 🛡️
I feel like I’m the only one that doesn’t mind them removing the scene where she tries to rip the key away from Aigis
@@genericname4168 As an og enjoyer watching it not happen was so incredibly jarring when I just see her unceremoniously drop to her knees. Not only does it feel unnatural to me but the impact is lessened a lot, I'm a person who LOVES flawed characters overcome their flaws in media. Yukari trying to snatch Aigis' key to Metis telling her that there is no point to having Yukari then slowly drop down in tears felt like she was defeated in every sense of the word. Here the scene feels like it's going off the script of a poorly acted play or something...
Not that this scene is bad, but a lot is removed by her just not trying to get the key. Curse you for cowarding to those critics that knew nothing of how unpredictable the human heart is.
yall do know they cant have a remake 1 to 1 with the original right💀
They can, Tomb Raider 1 did it, in fact, those kind of decision is rarer by comparison cause the devs aren't stuck up overcrowded workers with ass wipe of a CEO