I'd probably move C to the S tier because it really has the performance benefit and i'd move c++ down to B tier because it can't compete with smthn like rust in performance and syntax.
English A Tier, widely used very easy to pick up. Was my first language, very good with its expressions like C**t, F**k and S**t. Does what you need maybe not as elegant as French or Italian but flexible if you know what you're doing.
as someone who is fulent in english i can confirm that english is very usful when cursing it is very good when you use them one after the other and stringing them together like a master
These days C# is just crazy good. It's also possible to use it in Godot, the popular open source gaming engine. And in Blazor, the WASM technology. And on the desktop, mobile, it's the friggin everywhere language.
@@Christobanistan Ah, I have never dealt with C# (I find GDScript to be better suited for my style) - Hope the future of Godot improves it's programming language support because it'd bring a lot more people to Godot (I for one, want more support for C++.)
I agree 100 Present love the Language💗💗 A lot. It is a popular Language for whole Varity of Applications.👍👍👍. Also Can be used for Backend Development and used in a lot Webb Applications and Programing nanotechnology.
C# above all is absolutely deserved, it's amazing! Background: I worked with Unity intensely for a few months (before I had used Java in university) and I was having a blast. Nowadays I use a lot of JavaScript, but I have also used TypeScript, Python, Lua and SQL a little bit.
I completely agree with shell being in S tier, as I use the shell (Fish Shell for me) every day, and automation is so much easier through the use of aliases. For instance, since I use Linux, I have to type out the compile command without a makefile, but with aliases, I can shorten the command to one keyword, the move the binary to the bin folder using a keyword after. I created the debug keyword which does the moving process, then immediately executes the binary, then CDs back into my src directory. The shell is extremely powerful... except PS, screw that, man.
The only people giving PHP a bad rap are just parroting what others have said or haven't used it recently. It's come a LONG way and deserves a fresh look. A tier for sure.
This is just evidence that devs are really diverse in what they like. Languages that’s the most intuitive for me is JS, and Rust, and that’s purely a function of me using it the most. Then comes a guy who says C is unbeatable and you guessed it he works in C most of the time. And I also know someone who lives and dies by Ruby, so
I use JS in my internship for over a year (because i can't escape it) and i don't like it haha. It's bearable, but i prefer dealing with C# or PHP. What i hate with a passion is the JS ecosystem, very confusing with it's layers and layers of abstraction.
Ahh... I was tricked by the thumbnail, expecting an epic debate between C# and Java XD Thanks for the first-hand experience analysis! I was undecided about which OOP language I should learn, but now it seems like C# is a good starting point. I also had experience with Visual Basic, so it should make the transition easier for me :)
Either one is good honestly. I prefer java just because now im very familiar with it but java, C# , kotlin are so similar that is very easy to switch between them. Theyre perfect for learing OOP. Besides that i think a good programer should be good with the shell and familarized with c++, c, ASM and js
C++ and R are my favorite languages because they're good at what they do. The type of work I do requires me to know Python, but for some reason, I have a hard time wrapping my head around Python lol
My prof would totally rage after seeing you putting ruby in D and python in A. Im studying computer sciences in germany currently listening to a lecture called "scripting languages" and our main focus is on ruby and some python. I've never visited a lecture that included that much arguing between the professor and the students because of the constant python bashing. But he promised at the start of the lecture that we would love ruby afterwards and he was at least partly right. Just look for example at the class and object oriented aspects of python... it's just very very "clunky". For example why do you have to constantly pass the self argument arround? Why are the "magic functions" so unintuitive? I mean they work well but no one can tell me that they weren't confused after looking at them the first time. Ruby and Python both added those features afterwards, so the argument made by the python community that this is the reason for it beeing so strange doesn't count. Ruby has a very very well designed syntax for defining classes. There are many other things about python that seem strange from an outside perspective. For example the giant amount of global functions that "just exists" (Like type() or str()). Why can't the object itself define a type or string function? The str() function is just calling internally the magic function __str__ so why can't an object have a predefined string function? The philosophy behind ruby and it's designer is that everything should work as you expect it to work. And while I think that ruby does not 100% deliver on this (no language does) it definitily does this better than python and waaaay better than javascript. The first example we were shown: Open an interactive python and ruby shell. Enter "exit" - the ruby interpreter will exit and the python interpreter will show you an message to enter "exit()". While both ways makes sense in the syntax of the programming lanuage, obviously ruby is delivering on it's promise to do what you would expect it to do. I love python and I will probablly never use ruby in any of my projects, just because I know python that well and ruby just doesn't have a community that big. But putting one of the best designed scripting languages in D, just because it hasn't that big of a community, isn't fair I think. But the biggest thing you got wrong about ruby is that you said it is slower than python. Ruby is faster in nearly all algorithmic benchmarks out there. While loops are 5x faster in ruby, BigInt multiplication 2x faster and eratosthenes is at least a bit faster. And ruby now supports real multithreading which python still doesn't really support (without a big hassle) because of the "global virtual machine lock". This is happening because both languages interpreters are wirtten in C, and the C libraries used by the the interpreter are just not threadsafe. Ruby recently added "Ractors", inspired by node js which allow for true multithreading without any 3rd party libs.
Been using C# 6 years full time in Unity and regret nothing. I’m so happy with the language, doesn’t even feel like programming but just a high level scripting language even at this point. Started using C++ and JavaScript. When Web 1.0 was around I always thought JavaScript was absolutely horrible. These days I want to relearn it though.
i think python would be an s tier language if it weren't that slow. Not necessarily C speeds, but if it ran at a decent speed it would be way more used since i think it's one of the easiest (if not the easiest) programming language and i personalli like its syntax
That was a criminal underrating of Ruby. Still such an integral part of so many important SaaS companies. The syntax is really nice and its an overall joy to work with. If anyone here is deterred from picking up ruby because of this video, please reconsider.
Yeah he missed the mark pretty hard with Ruby, I can't believe he said Python has better syntax than Ruby after complaining about whitespace. Ruby, like any language has its use cases but it's probably the most expressive language out there.
Your tierlist is probably giving away, that you are mainly Windows User and work in Microsoft Development Environment. :D Powershell is indeed useful, especially when it comes to bigger Cloud Tech like interacting with Azure Cloud or AWS. Good support.
One thing to just take away from this is, every language will have a pro and con. It will almost certainly be a case by case basis, and with that I really hate the question "What language is the best?" etc. because as you develop more you realize you would benefit from some languages over others. For example if you were needing to build some sort of websocket implementation -- C++ may be the most performant, but good luck finding a very easy to use websocket library with fast set up time; versus using a NPM package in JS or some library in Python. Ease of use is undoubtly the most important part of picking a language, C++ is way to verbose; but very performant. But these days most languages run nearly the same at execution so it comes down to personal choice.
As a .Net Dev I was chanting S tier the second u got to it and would've thrown my phone off a cliff if it would've been any lower Thanks for saving me money :)
My tier list: S - JS, C#, C++ A - SQL, Swift, Python, TS (I just placed TS under JS because I use it much less often) B - PhP, C, Terminal control language C - Ruby D - Assembly (I excluded Prolog as I never used it)
@@DendrocnideMoroides I actually wanted to put C in C tier but due to my strong relationship between C family languages I decided to put it higher lol (it would be a great fit tho lol)
@@xpuc6214 Well Idk, I've been studying it for 2 years but never really got into it as much as into C++ and C#, especially because I was a game developer back in the day and using C++ there is extremely common as it is very efficient and allows for very accurate and easy optimization of code, therefore making video games running better on most devices. Furthermore, it can perform much more complex and advanced tasks that C may not be able to handle, that's why it is #1 choice for game dev language. Not saying C is bad tho, it's just sorta worse for me in my personal experience and performs less efficiently in certain circumstances.
As a middle+ Java developer with 4 years of experience, i think that Java deserves its own unique category. And this category is "Trash", or "Garbage". The only advantage of Java is high salaries among Java developers, more than C# developers on average. Not my opinion, only numbers and statistics. We deserve that because our job to support old projects and to work with tons of legacy code.
When you said "4 years of experience", i was expecting a mild praise for the language haha. Does your professional experience with it involved only legacy systems? I heard only bad things about "old" Java, but i see a good amount of people saying the language started being pretty good since Java 8 (that is, ignoring some poor design choices it has, which will not go away).
SQL: I don't see how it's not S tier since there's no alternative and it's crucial in most areas JS: JS is a great starter for learning base coding and the whole web is reliant on it, should be higher PHP: Many people think it's outdated but the vast majority of the web STILL runs on PHP and it does it's job, should be higher Java: Deserves more praise since C# basically copied it, they made C# so they can integrate their windows specific stuff, but yes they did make it better Python: I would put a low B or C, way too over praised, the code is not efficient at all, clunky for any real user program creation, and yes the spaces C#/C++: Kings. Also where is Rust, MatLab, VB, Delphi, Kotlin, Go, R or Cobol? Cool video though
I really like using Kotlin. Coming from being an iOS developer, Kotlin and Swift share a lot. The more time goes on, the more I lean in favour of Kotlin. First, IntelliJ is just a better IDE than Xcode. Second, beyond mobile development, I find Kotlin a lot more useful. Thanks to Kotlin's interoperability with Java you can make full use of the rich and established Java ecosystem like Spring Boot. I know Swift on the server is a thing, but unless Apple really gets behind it, it will always be niche, and I doubt Apple will get behind it, their main focus is Apple platforms, which is a shame because there is a lot to love with Swift.
I disagree with ruby's criticism, the oop implementation is superior to python's for starters, better lambda support and no significant indentation. Python wins in support and ecosystem, performance wise they are about the same neither is very performant.
Wasnt Ruby 3 3 times faster than Ruby 2? I saw a video from a guy comparing 4 languages. Python, Ruby, Crystal and C. Ruby 3 was 3 times faster than Python. It did a 10.000 items bubble sort in 7 secs while Python took 21 secs. C took 0.4 seconds no suprise. And Crystal with optimizations took around 0.35 sec... jeez.
@Raccoon#2 Any plans to remove the GIL? I think lack of multithreading is the #1 thing holding Py back. Right now all the heavy lifting is offloaded to a plugin written in a language that has multithreading. Kinda sad because that keeps it as a BASH clone with a prettier syntax.
with all due respect you’re dead wrong with the “C++ is basically C with more stuff” comment…And unfortunately, that’s how most ppl think of C++…but the reality is that *MODERN* C++ is a completely different beast. Much more elegant than what the earlier versions were. Sure, you can still write C++ code “the C-way”, but that would be doing the language a disservice. It’s got a plethora of modern features that makes it stand out from the rest. S tier for sure.
I love programming Swift and it has stopped changing its syntax, so it now requires less maintenance. Edit: Unfortunately, we cannot say the same about SwiftUI, it's been changing a lot with each version 😱
I lost it when my saw "shell languages" on top. Perhaps there are good shells but anything that is POSIX compliant is doomed to be an F-tier horror. Use Perl, I swear to god.
Oh wow, you put C# in S tier, that's really brave, it was my first programming language and I really busted my brains learning it, with that said, C++ is my favorite programming language and it definitely belongs in the S tier for me, it just came easily to me without much effort really, same can be said about SQL (I really love databases), python3 (for A.I) and lastly arduino (for micro-controllers and robotics), my f tier list would consist of Ballerina programming and PHP (eww just eww..) every other language is ranked quite accurately.
C# devs really put themselves down, myself included, i learned js because is the pattern of the industry but I caught myself thinking "oh there is really nothing that special or different here" many times
Studying python rn after C and Java bases languages and I HATE how clunky it is. I've only just started it but printing anything in Python is so much more painful than it has any right to be.
Ye, I guess every C# developer has the same feelings about how’s JS and TS. Sooooooo real. I would put python to D or F tier since I used to do performance computing using Cpp.
For my web dev class, we could choose to use VB or C#. Up to that point, I learned c++, java, & VB. Even though I never used the language before, I decided to use C#. I thought I was going to be a c++ dominant programmer but after that experience, C# is my happy place. it just clicks really well for me & what I want to make, and I was surprised at how easily I picked it up. It seems to be getting better & better as the updates come in.
I would definitely put Python lower on the list. It's slow, the required use of tabs and newlines, and the lack of variable initializer keywords makes it really annoying to use for me.
I don't understand why people keep making those rankings on programming languages. Even though I can agree with most of his opinions on the *individual* languages, putting all of those on the same ranking board like this is... contradictory at most. It's like comparing a minivan to a construction crane and try to argue which one is superior. Each has their own places.
Started learning a year ago with JavaScript and have been studying heavily, I find it nice but since I like machine learning I’m moving to python and thinking about trying C++ Already I can tell how alien it feels. It’s like going from English to chinese Which I should say I prefer Chinese better, English is a dumb language
And this my list: (SQL, Shells and Assembly doesn't fit to this comparison) S: TS, Rust, Go A: JS, C++, Python, Kotlin, Dart B: C, Java, Swift, C# C: PHP, Ruby
c++ is fav because it can do everything while hard but still possible? like list stuff you cant do like not possible dont list stuff like webDev, GUI making and AI dev, Web scraping they might be REALLY hard but still possible. and i am used to it so this is my opinion you might like python because of it's lib or js because literally in my country every area has 2 or 3 of in person or online class but i like c++ 😁
If programming languages are like natural selection, and if a language isn’t good, it will eventually die out….by that logic doesn’t it make the most popular and alive languages the best? Python and javascript would be on top
Which languages would you rank differently and why?
The incredible java ecosystem should give it a boost IMHO but great ranking in general ☺️
python in f tier i f...ing hate python and its stupid syntax. java higher because it is so universal
Php in A
I'd probably move C to the S tier because it really has the performance benefit and i'd move c++ down to B tier because it can't compete with smthn like rust in performance and syntax.
Switch Java with C#. And C++ to c lvl
English A Tier, widely used very easy to pick up. Was my first language, very good with its expressions like C**t, F**k and S**t. Does what you need maybe not as elegant as French or Italian but flexible if you know what you're doing.
yea i agree, it sometimes has weird syntax tho
Fun Fact : There is actually a programming language called "English Language"
@@aziebruh5435 like you can fully program in?
@@messycode7738 yeah, its a programming language.
as someone who is fulent in english i can confirm that english is very usful when cursing
it is very good when you use them one after the other and stringing them together like a master
Assembly is my favorite for mobile development.
He did at D
No swift💀
What? Mind blowing
JAVA
You're a madman
These days C# is just crazy good. It's also possible to use it in Godot, the popular open source gaming engine. And in Blazor, the WASM technology. And on the desktop, mobile, it's the friggin everywhere language.
C++ and C Is also possible to use in Godot, but C# is def more supported
@@myuworks Unfortunately C# is very slow in Godot, too. All those context switches, it's poorly implemented by Godot.
@@Christobanistan Ah, I have never dealt with C# (I find GDScript to be better suited for my style) - Hope the future of Godot improves it's programming language support because it'd bring a lot more people to Godot (I for one, want more support for C++.)
I am learning C#
I agree 100 Present love the Language💗💗 A lot. It is a popular Language for whole Varity of Applications.👍👍👍. Also Can be used for Backend Development and used in a lot Webb Applications and Programing nanotechnology.
I personally don’t care what language I use as long as I accomplish my goal, but I used to only use c++
My man really put JavaScript and PHP in the same tier
absolute crime
@@joeljossie4181 already reported his channel, dw
You're right, they should both be in F. :)
@@Christobanistan everything in web is js buddy, shut up your mouth
@avfr JavaScript can run literally everywhere
I definitely agree with C# on the S, it is my home language
C# above all is absolutely deserved, it's amazing!
Background: I worked with Unity intensely for a few months (before I had used Java in university) and I was having a blast.
Nowadays I use a lot of JavaScript, but I have also used TypeScript, Python, Lua and SQL a little bit.
C#, Linq-to-Sql on the backend and Silverlight on the front end of a 2-tier dB architecture! A great combination for me (I hobby code).
Bro c# is basically Java so it can do whatever Java can do (Minecraft)
I completely agree with shell being in S tier, as I use the shell (Fish Shell for me) every day, and automation is so much easier through the use of aliases. For instance, since I use Linux, I have to type out the compile command without a makefile, but with aliases, I can shorten the command to one keyword, the move the binary to the bin folder using a keyword after. I created the debug keyword which does the moving process, then immediately executes the binary, then CDs back into my src directory.
The shell is extremely powerful... except PS, screw that, man.
The syntax of bash scripts would definitely put it to at least C, if not even further down. Would love to hear your opinion on Rust and Go.
The only people giving PHP a bad rap are just parroting what others have said or haven't used it recently. It's come a LONG way and deserves a fresh look. A tier for sure.
As a C# developer, I strongly agree that C# is an S tier language
C# is garbage, no offense
Best language ever.
@@bily1017 why? Are u a java programmer?
@@UNMEASURED100 no, lol C# is just a terrible language so many better alternatives and it’s slower than most languages
@@bily1017 if C# is that terrible imagine how terrible Java can be.
Nice list! I would add Kotlin at S-Tier
This is just evidence that devs are really diverse in what they like. Languages that’s the most intuitive for me is JS, and Rust, and that’s purely a function of me using it the most.
Then comes a guy who says C is unbeatable and you guessed it he works in C most of the time.
And I also know someone who lives and dies by Ruby, so
I use JS in my internship for over a year (because i can't escape it) and i don't like it haha. It's bearable, but i prefer dealing with C# or PHP. What i hate with a passion is the JS ecosystem, very confusing with it's layers and layers of abstraction.
Ahh... I was tricked by the thumbnail, expecting an epic debate between C# and Java XD
Thanks for the first-hand experience analysis! I was undecided about which OOP language I should learn, but now it seems like C# is a good starting point. I also had experience with Visual Basic, so it should make the transition easier for me :)
Either one is good honestly. I prefer java just because now im very familiar with it but java, C# , kotlin are so similar that is very easy to switch between them. Theyre perfect for learing OOP.
Besides that i think a good programer should be good with the shell and familarized with c++, c, ASM and js
I was expecting an epic debate about why PHP is in S tier haha.
C++ and R are my favorite languages because they're good at what they do. The type of work I do requires me to know Python, but for some reason, I have a hard time wrapping my head around Python lol
My prof would totally rage after seeing you putting ruby in D and python in A. Im studying computer sciences in germany currently listening to a lecture called "scripting languages" and our main focus is on ruby and some python. I've never visited a lecture that included that much arguing between the professor and the students because of the constant python bashing.
But he promised at the start of the lecture that we would love ruby afterwards and he was at least partly right.
Just look for example at the class and object oriented aspects of python... it's just very very "clunky". For example why do you have to constantly pass the self argument arround? Why are the "magic functions" so unintuitive? I mean they work well but no one can tell me that they weren't confused after looking at them the first time.
Ruby and Python both added those features afterwards, so the argument made by the python community that this is the reason for it beeing so strange doesn't count. Ruby has a very very well designed syntax for defining classes.
There are many other things about python that seem strange from an outside perspective. For example the giant amount of global functions that "just exists" (Like type() or str()). Why can't the object itself define a type or string function? The str() function is just calling internally the magic function __str__ so why can't an object have a predefined string function?
The philosophy behind ruby and it's designer is that everything should work as you expect it to work. And while I think that ruby does not 100% deliver on this (no language does) it definitily does this better than python and waaaay better than javascript. The first example we were shown: Open an interactive python and ruby shell. Enter "exit" - the ruby interpreter will exit and the python interpreter will show you an message to enter "exit()". While both ways makes sense in the syntax of the programming lanuage, obviously ruby is delivering on it's promise to do what you would expect it to do.
I love python and I will probablly never use ruby in any of my projects, just because I know python that well and ruby just doesn't have a community that big. But putting one of the best designed scripting languages in D, just because it hasn't that big of a community, isn't fair I think.
But the biggest thing you got wrong about ruby is that you said it is slower than python. Ruby is faster in nearly all algorithmic benchmarks out there. While loops are 5x faster in ruby, BigInt multiplication 2x faster and eratosthenes is at least a bit faster. And ruby now supports real multithreading which python still doesn't really support (without a big hassle) because of the "global virtual machine lock". This is happening because both languages interpreters are wirtten in C, and the C libraries used by the the interpreter are just not threadsafe. Ruby recently added "Ractors", inspired by node js which allow for true multithreading without any 3rd party libs.
I feel like you are always closed in your bedroom programming or having new ideas to create a video. Love your work, can't stop watch it.
Been using C# 6 years full time in Unity and regret nothing.
I’m so happy with the language, doesn’t even feel like programming but just a high level scripting language even at this point.
Started using C++ and JavaScript.
When Web 1.0 was around I always thought JavaScript was absolutely horrible.
These days I want to relearn it though.
When i see the C# got S... i felt like oh man you are in right track :)
Man, I like you. I love C# and you didn't disrespect my favorite language. You get a 👍 from me.
i think python would be an s tier language if it weren't that slow. Not necessarily C speeds, but if it ran at a decent speed it would be way more used since i think it's one of the easiest (if not the easiest) programming language and i personalli like its syntax
I personally hate its syntax, after 2 years without coding on this...
That was a criminal underrating of Ruby. Still such an integral part of so many important SaaS companies. The syntax is really nice and its an overall joy to work with. If anyone here is deterred from picking up ruby because of this video, please reconsider.
Yeah he missed the mark pretty hard with Ruby, I can't believe he said Python has better syntax than Ruby after complaining about whitespace. Ruby, like any language has its use cases but it's probably the most expressive language out there.
@@willwatson3301 I assume he was specifically talking about the number of different symbols used?
As a c# trainee dev, this video and some comments, have made me very happy!!!
I like Python's required indentation. I think not requiring begin/end or {/} makes the code look nice. I like the colons too.
Your thumbnail had me triggered when I saw python in F tier. I'm glad to see I was bamboozled lol.
Your tierlist is probably giving away, that you are mainly Windows User and work in Microsoft Development Environment. :D
Powershell is indeed useful, especially when it comes to bigger Cloud Tech like interacting with Azure Cloud or AWS. Good support.
One thing to just take away from this is, every language will have a pro and con. It will almost certainly be a case by case basis, and with that I really hate the question "What language is the best?" etc. because as you develop more you realize you would benefit from some languages over others. For example if you were needing to build some sort of websocket implementation -- C++ may be the most performant, but good luck finding a very easy to use websocket library with fast set up time; versus using a NPM package in JS or some library in Python. Ease of use is undoubtly the most important part of picking a language, C++ is way to verbose; but very performant. But these days most languages run nearly the same at execution so it comes down to personal choice.
We agree on JS to be C tier. My list:
S: None
A: C, Python, ASM, Rust, SQL,C#, Java, Ruby
B: Bash
C: JS, TS
D: PHP
F: C++, VB
Burn in hell for c++ in f tier
As a .Net Dev I was chanting S tier the second u got to it and would've thrown my phone off a cliff if it would've been any lower
Thanks for saving me money :)
My tier list:
S - JS, C#, C++
A - SQL, Swift, Python, TS (I just placed TS under JS because I use it much less often)
B - PhP, C, Terminal control language
C - Ruby
D - Assembly
(I excluded Prolog as I never used it)
Why put C in B :(
@@xpuc6214 yes C should be in C (because its name implies that)
@@DendrocnideMoroides I actually wanted to put C in C tier but due to my strong relationship between C family languages I decided to put it higher lol (it would be a great fit tho lol)
@@HunDev_PL C is one of the most efficient languages and is the best for low level programming.
@@xpuc6214 Well Idk, I've been studying it for 2 years but never really got into it as much as into C++ and C#, especially because I was a game developer back in the day and using C++ there is extremely common as it is very efficient and allows for very accurate and easy optimization of code, therefore making video games running better on most devices. Furthermore, it can perform much more complex and advanced tasks that C may not be able to handle, that's why it is #1 choice for game dev language. Not saying C is bad tho, it's just sorta worse for me in my personal experience and performs less efficiently in certain circumstances.
Bro just put ASM in D.... The most important language of all time.... in D that tells me everything I need to know
As a middle+ Java developer with 4 years of experience, i think that Java deserves its own unique category. And this category is "Trash", or "Garbage".
The only advantage of Java is high salaries among Java developers, more than C# developers on average. Not my opinion, only numbers and statistics.
We deserve that because our job to support old projects and to work with tons of legacy code.
When you said "4 years of experience", i was expecting a mild praise for the language haha. Does your professional experience with it involved only legacy systems? I heard only bad things about "old" Java, but i see a good amount of people saying the language started being pretty good since Java 8 (that is, ignoring some poor design choices it has, which will not go away).
i agree with you positioning of c++ it was also my first langauge and while I appreciate it the syntax can definitely be iffy
SQL: I don't see how it's not S tier since there's no alternative and it's crucial in most areas
JS: JS is a great starter for learning base coding and the whole web is reliant on it, should be higher
PHP: Many people think it's outdated but the vast majority of the web STILL runs on PHP and it does it's job, should be higher
Java: Deserves more praise since C# basically copied it, they made C# so they can integrate their windows specific stuff, but yes they did make it better
Python: I would put a low B or C, way too over praised, the code is not efficient at all, clunky for any real user program creation, and yes the spaces
C#/C++: Kings.
Also where is Rust, MatLab, VB, Delphi, Kotlin, Go, R or Cobol? Cool video though
R etc statical package this is software review, agree with kotlin its obviously s tier, since its c#/java etc on meth
I'd like Kotlin to join forces with Swift too
Agreed ❤️
I really like using Kotlin. Coming from being an iOS developer, Kotlin and Swift share a lot. The more time goes on, the more I lean in favour of Kotlin. First, IntelliJ is just a better IDE than Xcode. Second, beyond mobile development, I find Kotlin a lot more useful. Thanks to Kotlin's interoperability with Java you can make full use of the rich and established Java ecosystem like Spring Boot. I know Swift on the server is a thing, but unless Apple really gets behind it, it will always be niche, and I doubt Apple will get behind it, their main focus is Apple platforms, which is a shame because there is a lot to love with Swift.
PHP is my love. Old but what really took me from front end to backend programmer. A tier
Who is here after Clement mihaelescus video on the same topic? So many opinions differ😂
C# should have its own tier above S
ASM is the oldest actually, it was first made in 1953.
I disagree with ruby's criticism, the oop implementation is superior to python's for starters, better lambda support and no significant indentation.
Python wins in support and ecosystem, performance wise they are about the same neither is very performant.
Wasnt Ruby 3 3 times faster than Ruby 2?
I saw a video from a guy comparing 4 languages. Python, Ruby, Crystal and C. Ruby 3 was 3 times faster than Python. It did a 10.000 items bubble sort in 7 secs while Python took 21 secs. C took 0.4 seconds no suprise. And Crystal with optimizations took around 0.35 sec... jeez.
@@shawnlee6775 Ruby 3 is 3 times faster than Ruby 2.0 with jit enabled
I dont know man python isn't that fast
@Raccoon#2 Any plans to remove the GIL? I think lack of multithreading is the #1 thing holding Py back. Right now all the heavy lifting is offloaded to a plugin written in a language that has multithreading. Kinda sad because that keeps it as a BASH clone with a prettier syntax.
@Raccoon#2 niice.
Bro I saw python on the f tier on the thumbnail and I was like, Not on my watch lmao
Great list though thanks for the video!
why is the thumbnail purely for clickbait purposes and doesn't show the list shown in the video?
why is swift on the list but not kotlin?
with all due respect you’re dead wrong with the “C++ is basically C with more stuff” comment…And unfortunately, that’s how most ppl think of C++…but the reality is that *MODERN* C++ is a completely different beast. Much more elegant than what the earlier versions were. Sure, you can still write C++ code “the C-way”, but that would be doing the language a disservice. It’s got a plethora of modern features that makes it stand out from the rest. S tier for sure.
I love programming Swift and it has stopped changing its syntax, so it now requires less maintenance.
Edit:
Unfortunately, we cannot say the same about SwiftUI, it's been changing a lot with each version 😱
I lost it when my saw "shell languages" on top. Perhaps there are good shells but anything that is POSIX compliant is doomed to be an F-tier horror. Use Perl, I swear to god.
Where'd you put Rust? Kinda missed that one
I haven’t worked with Rust.
I don’t watch this type of video, like ranking programming or ranking framework,
I only watched it because you make the video
Great content as always
Oh wow, you put C# in S tier, that's really brave, it was my first programming language and I really busted my brains learning it, with that said, C++ is my favorite programming language and it definitely belongs in the S tier for me, it just came easily to me without much effort really, same can be said about SQL (I really love databases), python3 (for A.I) and lastly arduino (for micro-controllers and robotics), my f tier list would consist of Ballerina programming and PHP (eww just eww..) every other language is ranked quite accurately.
Nah c# is top tier language, beautiful syntax , and can do just about anything
C++ is for serious , C# is for shortcuts
@@johnc5258 Spoken like a student.
@@johnc5258 C++ is thinking that you shot yourself on the foot and then looked down and saw half of your body was blown out.
That thumbnail is so troll lol
C# devs really put themselves down, myself included, i learned js because is the pattern of the industry but I caught myself thinking "oh there is really nothing that special or different here" many times
c> c++> asm> bat/shell> all
I admit - I have never been so clickbaited xD
When I saw PHP above C# I wanted to punch my screen.
Studying python rn after C and Java bases languages and I HATE how clunky it is. I've only just started it but printing anything in Python is so much more painful than it has any right to be.
I have a problem with C# just because it is OS locked on most cases
As robotic engineer, I agree with C,C++ and Python. Imo If PLC is there ill put it in a S tier
what do you mean by plc ?
Python, Javascript, C#/Java, Bash/Powershell, Swift, Ruby, don’t know about the rest.
He's clearly made this in a way to be controversial.
Ye, I guess every C# developer has the same feelings about how’s JS and TS. Sooooooo real. I would put python to D or F tier since I used to do performance computing using Cpp.
For my web dev class, we could choose to use VB or C#. Up to that point, I learned c++, java, & VB. Even though I never used the language before, I decided to use C#. I thought I was going to be a c++ dominant programmer but after that experience, C# is my happy place. it just clicks really well for me & what I want to make, and I was surprised at how easily I picked it up. It seems to be getting better & better as the updates come in.
True
I wanted to learn c++ first but now I'm learning c#
C# on S tier? Isn't it little to early for April Fools hehe
Stopped listening after criticizing Python for requiring indentation
I would definitely put Python lower on the list. It's slow, the required use of tabs and newlines, and the lack of variable initializer keywords makes it really annoying to use for me.
Still python is very cool
No Kotlin love??? It was in the thumbnail -.- I got bamboozled
The thumbnail photo is the correct list upside down
I don't understand why people keep making those rankings on programming languages. Even though I can agree with most of his opinions on the *individual* languages, putting all of those on the same ranking board like this is... contradictory at most. It's like comparing a minivan to a construction crane and try to argue which one is superior. Each has their own places.
You scared me when I saw Python in F tier.
Heyyy, woah woah, how could you make this video without Lua??? 😭😭😭
php and javascript cannot be on the same rank. It's total madness.
Started learning a year ago with JavaScript and have been studying heavily, I find it nice but since I like machine learning I’m moving to python and thinking about trying C++
Already I can tell how alien it feels. It’s like going from English to chinese
Which I should say I prefer Chinese better, English is a dumb language
My S tier would be python, JavaScript, C#
The A tier would have java, C++ the rest would be B tier or below
If you Choose Bash For the S tier then you should also choose ASM language for the S tier.
You motivated me to learn C# at Master Level😎♥️I'm into it now
The thumbnail said PHP on S-tier...now you're trolling me
And this my list: (SQL, Shells and Assembly doesn't fit to this comparison)
S: TS, Rust, Go
A: JS, C++, Python, Kotlin, Dart
B: C, Java, Swift, C#
C: PHP, Ruby
lmao php on s tier in that thumbnail was pure gold
C# and terminal my 2 favourite let's goo
Jbaited me with putting Javascript and python in F on your thumbnail😂
Ruby's syntax is way better python's syntax. Indentation sucks and python is slower
Prolog, but no Kotlin?
Yep weird
Now the new successor of C++ which call Google's Carbon.
Carbon? C++ potential successor
9:18 The command line was like a second home to me even before I knew how to program myself
S: C, C++
A: C#, Java
- Software engineering degree holder
c++ is fav because it can do everything while hard but still possible?
like list stuff you cant do like not possible dont list stuff like webDev, GUI making and AI dev, Web scraping they might be REALLY hard but still possible.
and i am used to it so this is my opinion you might like python because of it's lib or js because literally in my country every area has 2 or 3 of in person or online class but i like c++ 😁
That thumbnail was hilarious 😂😂
C has to be S tier. As you mentioned everything is written in C: Linux, Python, Postgres...
Python doesn't perform better than Ruby.... get your facts straight... wow...
Why tf did you give JS a C ?
This is a S tier language because of react JS and its so easy and strong language!
Soydev
@@xpuc6214 lmao
Everybody has their own tier list and languages that they like
Where are functional programming languages?
Scala starts with S. Just saying.
Pretty good list
where is Kotlin, Rust, Golang ?
No tier list is complete without Go
If programming languages are like natural selection, and if a language isn’t good, it will eventually die out….by that logic doesn’t it make the most popular and alive languages the best? Python and javascript would be on top
How could you not put Java is S tier??
It's literally the best language that has ever existed
A tier at least
Why is it the best language that ever existed? Genuinely asking.
C# S tier nahhhh, Java is easy A tier
People hating PHP... imagine authentication in node js and python without libraries
no golang ?? madness.