Airline Hub and Route Geography

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
  • Overview of airline hubs and routes used by the largest airlines in the world. I examine the largest international airlines and busiest airports and discuss a few odd routes. I also analyze trends in airline travel post-pandemic.
    Data sources: Airport Improvement Program, Airline Quarterly Reports, Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)
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  • @jayayebee
    @jayayebee Год назад +451

    I think Lufthansa uses Frankfurt as its hub because of the Cold War. Berlin was deep in East Germany, split in half, and out of place to be a hub for West Germany. Even since reunification, the airport situation in Berlin hasn't been great, as it took them something like 20 years to build a single airport to replace the 3 or so smaller airports that used to serve the city.

    • @bene4577
      @bene4577 Год назад +8

      @@johnchastain7890 Bonn was the capital actually :) but its true nonetheless

    • @bene4577
      @bene4577 Год назад +23

      Yes! That's the real reason. Plus: Berlin itself is a big city, but the whole Brandenburg region around Berlin is actually very sparsely populated - as opposed to the area around Frankfurt. (Berlin is also quite "poor" and economically insignificant in comparison to the south-west of Germany.)

    • @anishraja9655
      @anishraja9655 Год назад +8

      Furthermore, the East German government only allowed three flight paths from the West into West Berlin, and it would've been highly inconvenient to try to get an international hub in West Berlin with only three ways for planes to get in and out.

    • @johnchastain7890
      @johnchastain7890 Год назад

      @@bene4577 Oops, richtig bist! I apologize to the Boon Chamber of Commerce. ;-)

    • @dazzaman434
      @dazzaman434 Год назад +2

      There is quite a saga about Berlin’s airports. It will only be when and if (big if) that ever gets fully sorted that Berlin will ever be a major airport hub.

  • @MaxPower-11
    @MaxPower-11 Год назад +183

    It’s important to recognize that some airlines’ hub layout are basically vestiges of mergers and acquisitions they’ve made over the years. For example: American (Dallas, Miami) & US Airways (Phoenix, Charlotte), and United (Chicago, Denver) & Continental (Houston, Newark).

    • @badgermoon9229
      @badgermoon9229 Год назад +15

      And when Delta bought out Northwest they acquired Minneapolis and Detroit hubs.

    • @barbaracameron5610
      @barbaracameron5610 Год назад +3

      America West Airlines purchased US airways. US hub is Philadelphia, AWA ..now AA has same flight attendants who were proud America West Airlines! Study more! Awa and US airways and other airlines are under AA umbrella

    • @lfd_eng9219
      @lfd_eng9219 Год назад

      @@barbaracameron5610 Actually I think it was US Airways that bought out America West...and then American bought out US Airways. AWA had hubs in Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Columbus, OH...CMH...which was used because the range of their aircraft. AWA was a great airline...the merger with US Fear (they put the fear back in flying, as the joke goes) was sad. Was frequent flyer on AWA and AA...switched to Delta for their much better customer service and far superior baggage handling.

    • @texastuna
      @texastuna Год назад +3

      @@lfd_eng9219 Wiki says US Airways was bankrupt and America West took them over, but it was a reverse merger and they kept the US Airways name. The same thing happened with American Airlines.

    • @n7y8c7
      @n7y8c7 Год назад +2

      ​@@texastuna Yup. Doug Parker the CEO purchased US Airways, and kept the US Airways name since it was the larger carrier, and much better known. He did the same thing with American Airlines and purchased it while in bankruptcy, but kept the better name.

  • @aidanthompson9159
    @aidanthompson9159 Год назад +56

    Recently, I’ve dabbled into some other geography channels here on RUclips just to diversify a little. Without mentioning any names, watching these videos seemed very official, calculated, manufactured, and scripted, if that makes sense (those are the words I could think of lol). And I realized that that wasn’t very enjoyable so I keep coming back to you, Kyle, and your laid back, low-budget videos that are just superior, in my opinion. So basically, please don’t become like “them” and be all fancy with it. It’s enjoyable the way it is, for me at least.

    • @billbishopboyiscool
      @billbishopboyiscool 10 месяцев назад +1

      They’re doing hub and spoke, and Kyle is going Southwest style.

  • @cameronlewis1218
    @cameronlewis1218 Год назад +41

    Hey Kyle.
    I’m a 30 year airline employee and an airline geek. You did a nice job! Keep up the good work…

  • @newenglandgreenman
    @newenglandgreenman Год назад +79

    Hi, I can explain why Frankfurt is Lufthansa's hub. It's partly for historical reasons and partly for economic reasons. The hub was established in Frankfurt decades ago because Frankfurt was located centrally in West Germany. West Germany's rail network connected really well with Frankfurt Airport, including high-speed trains by the late 1900s, so that it was quick and easy for people from many parts of West Germany to travel by rail to the Frankfurt Airport for flights out of the country. By contrast, when Germany was divided, so was Berlin. West Berlin was isolated and not terribly important economically, plus the airspace around it was controlled by East Germany, so it was not in the running as a hub for a western airline. After German unification, there was little reason to move the hub from Frankfurt to Berlin. First, moving would have been expensive. But more importantly, even in united Germany, Berlin remains somewhat isolated. The bulk of united Germany's population is in the west, centered near Frankfurt, and united Germany's economy is also centered in the west. There are no other big cities near Berlin, as there are near Frankfurt. Berlin is the center of government, but Germany's private sector is mostly based in western cities centered on Frankfurt, whose airport still has its good rail connections in several directions. Frankfurt also remains Germany's financial hub, so foreign businesspeople are much more likely to want to be in Frankfurt than in Berlin.

    • @TheGecko213
      @TheGecko213 Год назад +1

      Berlin is only popular with those on Nostalgic Nazi tourism and landmarks 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Chris_Taru
      @Chris_Taru Год назад

      This is a pretty accurate explanation for the Frankfurt airport situation.
      It's worth adding that there were plans for establishing BER as a hub of Air Berlin, Lufthansa's primary local rival between 2001 and 2017. But the airline was managed about as poorly as the airport construction and these plans died together with the endless delays of the aiport opening and the insolvency of Air Berlin.
      BER will stay a point-to-point connection aiport for a very long time now, because even now that BER has opened, the airport doesn't come close to today's passenger expectations. They would most likely need to build a brand-new terminal dedicated to a hub-and-spoke model similar to what Lufthansa did in Munich with Terminal 2.

    • @I_Like_Remote_83
      @I_Like_Remote_83 6 месяцев назад +1

      i thought it would be munic as the main hub

  • @RoseSolane
    @RoseSolane Год назад +78

    Frankfurt was in the heart of (West-)Germany until 1989 and the major hub for that reason. Until very recently Berlin didn't have a big airport so couldn't take over the role of Frankfurt as the main hub in Germany. And as you mentioned Berlin is still very east for most Germans.

    • @alquinn8576
      @alquinn8576 Год назад +4

      iirc Frankfurt also the most important financial center in Germany

    • @jonathanbunemann8851
      @jonathanbunemann8851 Год назад +10

      As a German I cringed watching that part of the video. Unfortunately Kyle does not consider how incredibly central Frankfurt is for where most Germans actually live - along Rhein-Ruhr-Main-Neckar rivers. It‘s not by coincidence that it’s also the largest railway hub in Germany. And the reason it’s Germany‘s business capital is the same - it’s been an independent city well connected with rivers and valleys to everywhere for a long time

    • @apod2020
      @apod2020 Год назад +3

      It makes a lot of sense looking at a population density map of Germany why Frankfurt is so important

    • @bene4577
      @bene4577 Год назад +1

      @@jonathanbunemann8851 I cringed a bit too :D but I guess, it's quite difficult to understand without the german point of view

    • @casmatori
      @casmatori Год назад

      @@jonathanbunemann8851 I was about to say. In terms of Germany, Berlin is nothing - it's basically Poland. Frankfurt area is where most of the population is.

  • @theevilmuppet
    @theevilmuppet Год назад +39

    Regarding the Denver to New Delhi distance thing, both Air India and Air Canada always fly east when connecting the North American west coast and New Delhi (or at least they did when I was flying that route regularly), as the prevailing tailwinds are more advantageous than reduced distance in terms of fuel usage.

  • @pastorjerrykliner3162
    @pastorjerrykliner3162 Год назад +82

    One thing that you kind of miss is the role of mergers in determining the "hub" system. Delta picked up MSP and DTW as hubs because they were the hubs for Northwest and when Delta merged with NW, they picked up those hubs while scrapping the traditional "Delta Hub" of Cincinnati (CVG). Likewise, American picked up PHX from America West and PHL and CLT from USAir...at the same time, American abandoned the earlier USAir hub at Pittsburgh and the old TWA hub at STL. United picked up the hubs at EWR and HOU from Continental while abandoning the old Continental hub at CLE and the old United hub at SEA. And this isn't really a "new" trend either... Delta got Salt Lake City when they bought Western Airlines in the 1980's and American bought the MIA hub from Eastern and the Latin American routes from Pan Am. So, as airlines merge and shuffle assets, hubs and their routes come-and-go.

    • @jimgorycki4013
      @jimgorycki4013 Год назад +5

      The Charlotte hub goes back to the US Air days, when it acquired Piedmont, which major depot and hub was Winston-Salem. Because of its expansion from buying small regional carriers, Piedmont moved from Winston-Salem to Charlotte.

    • @terranceramirez4816
      @terranceramirez4816 Год назад +5

      US Airways abandoned Pittsburgh as a hub long before the merger with American, and American abandoned StL shortly after taking over TWA. Also, Delta abandoning CVG in favor of DTW makes a lot of sense as Detroit is a bigger and better positioned metro geographically than Cincinnati and Detroit still has a lot of economic importance as the hub for the American auto industry even though it has shrank, while Cincy is dying as a business and banking hub as evidenced for example by Chiquita leaving it for Charlotte several years ago.

    • @roygreen9890
      @roygreen9890 Год назад +7

      Pastor Kliner, good response, but with a CORRECTION: After the Continental/United merger, United took over the large international hub at Houston Itercontinental (IAH) -- NOT "HOU", as you state. "HOU" is Houston Hobby International -- the 2nd and smaller international airport in Houston.
      Southwest paid to expand and upgrade HOU (Hobby) to an international airport as their gateway to Latin America. United's hub is IAH and they don't even serve HOU.

    • @jmlinden7
      @jmlinden7 Год назад +4

      IAH not HOU. HOU is Hobby Airport (Southwest Airlines hub)

    • @ashgreene4914
      @ashgreene4914 Год назад +6

      American got their MIA hub ONLY from Eastern. Pan Am's MIA hub was acquired by United who failed to capitalise on it and ended it just after 9/11

  • @greensoul8121
    @greensoul8121 Год назад +235

    Can you do one with cargo airports? Anchorage is an interesting hub for worldwide cargo and I’m curious to see how FedEx, ups, DHL etc. operates.

    • @Chris_at_Home
      @Chris_at_Home Год назад +13

      Many cargo planes just refuel and change crews and off they go. My neighbor works for UPS at the ANC facility. If you look at an air traffic app you can get an idea of where the planes are coming from and going to. I see many of these planes climbing out heading to eastern USA.

    • @GeographyKing
      @GeographyKing  Год назад +89

      I'd like to look into that. I did a little preliminary research on agricultural flights and getting fresh fruits and vegetables to far off places quickly but it would've ended up being a video on its own. So I may have to do something with cargo and ag airports.

    • @Chris_at_Home
      @Chris_at_Home Год назад +4

      @@GeographyKing I know COSTCO used to truck the west coast produce up here . The guy that had the contract had 3 trucks and each had 2 drivers so they could run long days. I’ve been though that airport hundreds of times.

    • @erik_griswold
      @erik_griswold Год назад +4

      Anchorage was also a big hub/stopover point during the Cold War when air traffic could not fly over the USSR and aircraft could not fly as far they do today.

    • @swinde
      @swinde Год назад +4

      While Memphis, TN does not have a very large passenger service, it is either at #1 or #2 worldwide for cargo. Memphis was #1 in 2020, and held to #1 spot for ten or more years in the 90s, 2000s. Hong Kong is #1 currently and has been #1 for most of the last ten years.

  • @adamjacquez9495
    @adamjacquez9495 Год назад +41

    Air travel + geography! Thanks for keeping us entertained Kyle!

  • @Steveofthejungle8
    @Steveofthejungle8 Год назад +124

    The fact that Ethiopian airlines is becoming a major hub is super interesting

    • @jag92949
      @jag92949 Год назад +15

      Ethiopia has been heavily modernizing for the last 20 years. They’re now competing with Egypt with the Nile River.

    • @trainrover
      @trainrover Год назад

      but nation states aren't the ones doling business out, right; Corporateria have l o n g known how to cloak these stealthily creepy manœuvres of theirs..agreed? ;)

    • @mlehky
      @mlehky Год назад +21

      Ethiopian Airline actually has a long and honorable history. They date back to the 40’s being formed right after WW2. They have had long haul international service since the 50’s, and operated jets since the very early 60’s. They are certainly not the fly by night new comer that many make them out to be.

    • @roverdover4449
      @roverdover4449 Год назад +9

      Yes, very interesting. Every thing I hear about Ethiopia is (relatively) positive. Hmmm, even craving some Ethiopian food.

    • @David-bh7hs
      @David-bh7hs Год назад +1

      ​@@roverdover4449 except for the crashed Boeing plane

  • @hgman3920
    @hgman3920 Год назад +10

    One of the main reasons American has it's east coast hub in Charlotte is that it was the home airport of Piedmont Air until 1989, and US Air until 2015, when that airline was purchased by American. Piedmont Air was headquartered in Winston-Salem, NC, and there was an internal debate within the company as to whether Winston-Salem or Charlotte should be the home airport for the airline. CLT won out, and now I'm pretty sure the W-S airport doesn't have any regularly scheduled flights anymore,since all of the local flights now operate out of Piedmont Triad International in Greensboro

  • @Micg51
    @Micg51 Год назад +15

    Tracking hubs is interesting cause it gives insight to what cities are growing vs dying. Basically if you have an airline hub and lose it/close it, your city goes into decline (St Louis, Cleveland, Memphis)

    • @lavalampluva55401
      @lavalampluva55401 Год назад +1

      Hubs are an interesting thing. You don't need to be a huge city to have a large hub. Many hubs rely on connecting traffic, not local. Also Delta's DTW hub is smaller than MSP, but DTW has by far more international (European/Asian) destinations whereas MSP has more international destinations in Mexico and Caribbean than DTW.

  • @ThirdBrainLives
    @ThirdBrainLives Год назад +3

    Flying into the Salt Lake airport is drop dead gorgeous.

  • @SupaEMT134
    @SupaEMT134 Год назад +2

    I love that you have the _correct_ South Carolina license plate behind you

  • @birbluv9595
    @birbluv9595 Год назад +23

    Very interesting, especially comparing pre- and post-pandemic.

  • @jeffreywonser3241
    @jeffreywonser3241 Год назад +5

    As an aviation geek, I enjoyed this! Please update it every so often! Thanks!

  • @abard124
    @abard124 Год назад +15

    That AA map really does a good job of showing why Alaska airlines exists 😂

    • @andrewhurricane
      @andrewhurricane Год назад

      The relative lack of western mega hubs is not a new phenomenon. Perhaps things would have been different if carriers like Reno Air and America West had stayed independent in the years after 9/11.

    • @mrtodd3620
      @mrtodd3620 Год назад +1

      One of these days AA and Alaska will merge, and they will then compete with Delta, which has built up Seattle since United left.

  • @nizam5568
    @nizam5568 Год назад +9

    7:40 Istanbul also has a brand new huge airport, that probably is a reason why the city made a huge jump in the rankings.
    9:45 Historically, another airline (AirBerlin) used to mainly fly out of Berlin, but those guys went defunct. Despite Berlin also having a big 'new' airport Lufthansa hasn't jumped onto it, and the carrier remains strong in the West German heartland where it started out. Germany also has a good internal rail network so there is less reason for Lufthansa to expand their hubs to more cities.

  • @jonconstant3914
    @jonconstant3914 Год назад +4

    this is one of my favorite geography topics. love to look at those route maps. whenever I’m on a plane, that’s the first thing I go to in the back of the magazines (mot sure if they still have them though post-covid, haven’t flown yet).

  • @ToastyNova
    @ToastyNova Год назад +7

    Delta’s hub used to be in Cincinnati but after they declared bankruptcy, they left. They basically built CVG but now it’s a hub for Amazon and is the fastest growing cargo airport in North America

    • @dustinmuir8991
      @dustinmuir8991 Год назад +2

      I didn’t know CVG was the fastest growing cargo airport in the US, but being Cincinnati residents, we enjoy (and recommend, especially for families) the CVG Viewing Area , and have noticed large cargo planes frequently landing at CVG from places like Anchorage and Japan.

    • @n7y8c7
      @n7y8c7 Год назад +1

      The merger with Northwest gifted Delta with much stronger assets in Detroit and Minneapolis, so they no longer needed Cincinnati and Memphis. Detroit is now Delta's #2 hub.

    • @fixpacifica
      @fixpacifica Год назад +2

      I used to love flying through the Cincinnati airport and would try to schedule my cross country flights to go through there. They had some great restaurants at the airport.

    • @n7y8c7
      @n7y8c7 Год назад

      @@fixpacifica I hope you had the chili spaghetti 🍝

    • @BabyBang17datruth
      @BabyBang17datruth Год назад

      The airport is located in Kentucky

  • @RTPTechGuy
    @RTPTechGuy Год назад +1

    I appreciated the little Steve Miller Band nod at the end of the video.

  • @aidanpeairs1967
    @aidanpeairs1967 Год назад +3

    The New York and Singapore city pairs also has the same distance east and west. Now that Russian airspace is closed, Singapore actually runs all the routes going east to catch the winds, so if you take the flights back to back you got around the globe.

  • @cgimovieman
    @cgimovieman Год назад +7

    I’ve been on that flight between Dallas and Melbourne on Qantas. By far the longest flights I’ve ever been on in my life. I really had to mentally prepare myself for those flights, and I’ve only gone over and back just once. You just have to accept that it’s that long, sleep as much as you can, get up and walk around every few hours, and bring things to do with you or watch movies or TV. If that flight was sprung on you last minute, it would be VERY hard. But if you know far enough in advance and can prepare for it, it’s not that bad. I’d never let the simple length of a flight stop me from visiting a place. Well worth it once you’re there.

    • @stevewilson5292
      @stevewilson5292 Год назад +2

      I suspect that in the future, people will regard some of us as being unbelievably hardy for sitting in cramped economy class for those 18-hour trips.

    • @n7y8c7
      @n7y8c7 Год назад

      What did you do to prepare yourself? My knees ache just thinking about it.

    • @cgimovieman
      @cgimovieman Год назад

      @@n7y8c7 Like I was saying above, you just have to realize the length of the flight well in advance, treat it like sort of being in any other single place for a long time and plan things to keep yourself busy, and know that it’ll all be worth it to visit where you’re going. But I mean, nowadays you have a whole infotainment system in front of you with hundreds of things to choose from. And the lights are dim enough it’s not too difficult to sleep. Plus you’re served at least 3 meals on that flight. It’s a big plane too, so personally I like aisle seats so I can keep getting up to move around whenever I want. But ideally for a flight like that, I would LOVE to fly first class. If any s flight where that would feel great, it’s those. But unfortunately since that size plane has closed off sleeper “suites” for a lot of first class, and because of the distance, that class is prohibitively expensive for most people. I know I’ve never been able to fly anything but coach overseas.

    • @n7y8c7
      @n7y8c7 Год назад +1

      @@cgimovieman Absolutely!
      I've taken Delta One to Stuttgart and compared to the trip I had in economy before that to Amsterdam, the difference was night and day.
      I barely slept, but I was definitely comfortable. I'd like to try the SkyCouch on Air New Zealand.

    • @cgimovieman
      @cgimovieman Год назад

      @@n7y8c7 Delta has long been my airline for decades as well. Although it was Northwest before Delta absorbed them years back now. New Zealand has been right at the top of my “to visit” list for a very long long time now. But despite travel being maybe my number one hobby, I just haven’t had the financial means to travel that far in quite a while. I used to get to travel for me work very frequently until about 2008/2009, but sadly my company downsized, I lost my job, and ever since then I’ve been on my own more or less for travel.

  • @drewdebenham4728
    @drewdebenham4728 Год назад +3

    Yet another fascinating topic I had no idea I was interested in! Thanks Kyle!

  • @theeclecticlifewithsam
    @theeclecticlifewithsam Год назад

    Always a good day when a new Geography King video is posted! Hope you had fun on your recent trip 👍

  • @nicocorbo4153
    @nicocorbo4153 Год назад +1

    great video kyle. nice to see you back after a well deserved vacay

  • @jkshitz28
    @jkshitz28 Год назад +1

    Kyle, every video you make is amazing. Thanks for the information!

  • @mityace
    @mityace Год назад +2

    Many of these hubs are ones inherited from Airlines they took over American got Philly, Phoenix and Charlotte when they bought out US Airways who in turn got Phoenix from America West and Charlotte from Piedmont.
    SImilarly, Delta got Detroit and Minneapolis-St. Paul from Northwest.

  • @chadnga8
    @chadnga8 Год назад +2

    Great video! I'm an aviation geek and a geography nerd... this video was right up my ally! Keep up the great work!

  • @Icelandair_B767
    @Icelandair_B767 8 месяцев назад

    thank you for such extremely detailed commentary accompanied with maps!

  • @nathanhansen1250
    @nathanhansen1250 Год назад +2

    I love this channel! Very interesting stuff

  • @aarwin09
    @aarwin09 Год назад

    Thanks for this video! Well formatted with good information.

  • @ccubsfan94
    @ccubsfan94 Год назад +1

    As an airline pilot (That big orange S, the hometown airline for Minneapolis)
    this was an amazing video!

  • @matthewyoung2519
    @matthewyoung2519 Год назад +1

    Geography + aviation = nerd heaven. Great video! Thanks man

  • @TomMarvan
    @TomMarvan Год назад +3

    8:08 Delhi’s new international Terminal 3, as part of its expansion of the original airport in 2010, has allowed it to ramp up, so to speak, from being outside the 25 airports over the last dozen years to number 7 in the most recent poll.

  • @iactiv6274
    @iactiv6274 Год назад

    Great video!! Enjoyed the information 👍🏼

  • @discgolfillustrated2640
    @discgolfillustrated2640 Год назад

    Kyle, another excellent video, ty!👍🏼

  • @johnlundkeller
    @johnlundkeller Год назад +18

    The newest startup Avelo is breaking trends, utilizing small airports as their bases and doing flights out and back (meaning the pilots and flight attendants get to go back home every night). They seem to be growing fast. I hope their trend-defying operations hold and they continue to grow!

    • @Speedster___
      @Speedster___ Год назад +2

      It would be really concerning if a startup wasn’t growing. The thing if the connect smaller airports they can’t crack larger cities. Like Denver is a big city with one airport.

    • @johnlundkeller
      @johnlundkeller Год назад

      @@Speedster___ Fair point! They do fly to bigger airports Baltimore Washington International (BWI), Orlando (MCO), and Chicago Midway (MDW) but it would be nice if they would use those as connecting points instead of just flying out there and back to their small "base" airports (their hubs).

    • @Speedster___
      @Speedster___ Год назад +3

      @@johnlundkeller the thing is they can become like a mid 2000s Southwest but Becuase of operational model they just can not fly into bigger airports. Like midway is big but it’s very clearly the secondary airport. BWI is kinda like that too with DC near.
      Imo Avelo best expansion path is to find mid sized cities and then connect them to non regional big cities secondary airports.
      One random example would be Midway to Tucson

    • @F4URGranted
      @F4URGranted Год назад +2

      So is breeze airlines, which is also doing very well right now. So many budget airlines are using this chance to improve hard and it's great to see. Always fun to walk through a small airport in a couple of minutes

    • @texastuna
      @texastuna Год назад

      @@Speedster___ JSX uses Rocky Mountain Metro. Way closer to Denver than DEN

  • @ulfthegoon
    @ulfthegoon Год назад +1

    Interesting video, Kyle. Istanbul airport is gigantic!!! Pretty cool stuff.

  • @jeffgerndt2813
    @jeffgerndt2813 Год назад

    Good to see a new video! Good job.

  • @davidhalldurham
    @davidhalldurham Год назад

    Fascinating video! Thank you so much!

  • @seven_hundred-seven_hundred
    @seven_hundred-seven_hundred Год назад

    I was reluctant to click on this link, but I should rely on your judgement... these maps are fabulous! Very nice. Thank you.

  • @alikartal8426
    @alikartal8426 Год назад

    Great work Kyle, thanks.

  • @KristianWontroba
    @KristianWontroba Год назад +1

    Love this video and channel! Great shirt btw!

  • @johnmcafee9741
    @johnmcafee9741 Год назад +12

    Another fascinating presentation. Thanks, Kyle. Keep up the great work.

  • @carnakthemagnificent336
    @carnakthemagnificent336 Год назад +3

    Very helpful, Mr. Kyle, gracias. I'll save this video to help me select airlines and more direct routes. However, I prefer to drive so I can see the places I used to fly over. Much more interesting.

  • @bink023
    @bink023 Год назад +1

    Beauty video and excellent graphics! Air Canada has lost a lot of pax due to a few new airlines in Canada - Flair, Swoop (Westjet), Lynx, Canada Airlines and expansion of Porter Airlines.

  • @TristouMTL
    @TristouMTL Год назад

    So interesting, as always!

  • @bullmiller3800
    @bullmiller3800 Год назад

    Great work sir, very informative and insightful.

  • @robertkitchens6341
    @robertkitchens6341 Год назад

    Love your channel very interesting

  • @deserteagle72005
    @deserteagle72005 Год назад +1

    Awesome video!

  • @julianlineham
    @julianlineham Год назад +1

    Great video. Living in Denver I can attest to the very busy airport.

  • @Fluffychoupikkos
    @Fluffychoupikkos Год назад

    You are awesome . Good luck with your channel !

  • @JackieBaisa
    @JackieBaisa 8 месяцев назад

    Oh this is a really good one! I love travel maps. :) Great post!

  • @DrewTubeDrew
    @DrewTubeDrew Год назад

    Very cool to see the different flight maps next to eachnotbet

  • @LMays-cu2hp
    @LMays-cu2hp Год назад

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @robertpagano5739
    @robertpagano5739 Год назад

    Good Morning, Great weather here to get great video!! Thanks!

  • @leslovesliberty1776
    @leslovesliberty1776 Год назад +1

    That was really interesting!!

  • @michaelchidester4441
    @michaelchidester4441 Год назад

    Nice South Carolina license plate. Looks a lot better than the ones we are stuck with now. Great job on all the videos. Appreciate the info. Keep up the good work.

  • @nonnywinner5039
    @nonnywinner5039 Год назад

    Thank you so for this informative video. Doing research for transportation hub matrix, and your video helpful and educational.

  • @whitewalls4409
    @whitewalls4409 Год назад +1

    Awesome content, next up busiest shipping ports?

  • @pimacanyon6208
    @pimacanyon6208 Год назад +1

    great video! thanks!

  • @chadalca17
    @chadalca17 Год назад +2

    Following airlines, hubs, routes has always been a hobby of mine since I've been a kid. This video is very interesting. I'm not sure if it's a geography thing, but it is also interesting how each of these airlines acquired the hubs and focus cities they did. As well as some of the cities that used to be hubs but are not any longer. St. Louis for TWA/American. Memphis for Northwest/Delta. Cincinatti for Delta.

  • @flyingdutchman2065
    @flyingdutchman2065 Год назад

    Currently in flight training. This is my dream fuel. Nice channel!

  • @Blackburnian737
    @Blackburnian737 Год назад +4

    Love to see this for trains as well. (Freight or Passenger)

  • @katereilly445
    @katereilly445 Год назад

    I spy a Primus album. 😊 I like to check out the albums, flags and little things behind you. Love your channel. Nerds rule!

  • @MegaGo68
    @MegaGo68 Год назад +6

    Love this topic. Would have liked to hear any comments about how Alaska Airlines fits into the schemes you describe, given that it is also a top 5 carrier.

    • @crabring
      @crabring Год назад

      Yeah, I was hoping to learn more about southwest. Now I'm even more confused why you can't go to some cities via southwest if they don't rely on the "spoke" method like most.:-p

    • @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar
      @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar Год назад +1

      @@crabring I could be completely wrong, but I think it has to do, in part, with the expense of getting slots at large airports where legacy carriers have significant footprints. I’m pretty sure that was the case in the NYC metro area (where I grew up): for a long time, if you wanted to fly Southwest, you had to go to Philly or (I think) Islip, because the legacy carriers all had big presences at JFK, EWR, and LGA, though I think they now fly out of LGA, at least. I now live near BWI, which isn’t a hub for anyone, and where Southwest has something like an 85-90% market share.

    • @GeographyKing
      @GeographyKing  Год назад +4

      I think Alaska has a good footing in the up-and-down the coast market. Seattle and Portland are pretty far out of the way with no major population centers anywhere near, so the larger airlines tend to not fly those routes. But for Alaska they basically have cornered a market left relatively untapped. We flew with them from Fresno to Cabo San Lucas in Baja California.

  • @robbiestarke
    @robbiestarke Год назад +1

    Kyle does it again, you dropped this, king 👑

  • @TheAidanodian
    @TheAidanodian Год назад +1

    As an avgeek I absolutely love this one. Great vid as per usual.

  • @StepsToFollow
    @StepsToFollow 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video. I'd like to see more videos about geography in the aviation context. I know it's a stretch, but if you can I'd like to see it.

  • @PC-kd7dj
    @PC-kd7dj Год назад +1

    I have watched and enjoyed a lot of your videos, including this very interesting one. Thank you Kyle!
    The airline industry was hugely impacted by the recent pandemic. And now for some older history about a former airline that was the world’s leading airline from the late 40’s through the 70s: Pan American World Airways.
    In 1947, Pan Am began the first regularly scheduled around-the-world passenger service using using Lockheed Constellations (a propeller-driven, four-engine pressurized-cabin civil airliner built from 1943 to 1958). Pan American Flight 001 originated in San Francisco and flew westward to Honolulu, on across the Pacific to Hong Kong, and continued around the world to Bangkok (Thailand), Delhi (India), Beirut (Lebanon), Istanbul (Turkey), Frankfurt (Germany), London (England) and finally to New York. The entire flight took about 48 hours. Its counterpart, Pan Am Flight 002, originated in New York and flew eastward around the world to the same cities. [Information from WIRED and Wikipedia articles.]
    In the summer of 1972, my wife and flew on Pan Am Flight 002 halfway around its global route, flying on a Boeing 747 from JFK in New York to London, Frankfurt, Istanbul, Karachi (Pakistan) and New Delhi. We returned a month later on Pan Am Flight 001 from New Delhi, to Beirut, Frankfort, London, to New York with breakfast served after each stop (as I recall). We got in very late to JFK and slept in the airport. We were both 20 then. It was overall, an amazing adventure!

  • @LoboLakerGaming
    @LoboLakerGaming Год назад +3

    I’m very familiar with DFW and American. DFW is perfect for east/west trips, and is AA’s primary Mexico gateway. It has a decent volume of flights to other latin and south american cities, but Miami primarily takes in those duties

  • @l.e.o2424
    @l.e.o2424 Год назад

    Kyle out here dropping another banger 🔥🔥🔥

  • @pbh17
    @pbh17 Год назад

    Great information!

  • @KhAnubis
    @KhAnubis Год назад +5

    For the Germany thing, it's worth considering that up until a couple years ago Berlin was served by two very small airports, Tegel and Schönefeld. Having gone through both multiple times, there is absolutely no way those airports had the space to accommodate the kind of air traffic you see in Frankfurt or Amsterdam. Also, Frankfurt is a major financial hub and not comparatively far from the mean population center of Germany (or from Bonn, which was the capital of West Germany)
    Are these the reasons Lufthansa and Condor prefer Frankfurt over Berlin? No idea, I'm just putting some extra info out there for people's enjoyment

    • @claas901
      @claas901 Год назад

      I was just about to write the exact same thing with the population distribution being much more favorable for Frankfurt. Also the connection of the airport to the high speed rail network with a dedicated train station might play a role.

    • @GeographyKing
      @GeographyKing  Год назад

      There were no airports in ancient Egypt so you know nothing. Nothing! But yeah I missed the bus for the reasons Frankfurt is the main hub.

    • @MarsJenkar
      @MarsJenkar Год назад

      Guessing the Cold War may have been a factor as to the lack of a large airport in Berlin until recently.

  • @andrewstevens2364
    @andrewstevens2364 Год назад

    Great Video. Do more on Airports and airlines

  • @petermarshall7775
    @petermarshall7775 Год назад

    fantastic information

  • @bobbiechristensen5716
    @bobbiechristensen5716 Год назад

    Interesting, earned a lot of new things I'd not really thought about.

  • @shahmask
    @shahmask 8 месяцев назад

    Awesome video

  • @mtbphoto
    @mtbphoto Год назад +1

    I am an airline worked and I loved this video!

  • @partydemon2849
    @partydemon2849 Год назад

    Honorable mention of Allegiant

  • @SPR8364-0
    @SPR8364-0 Год назад +4

    The SW Airlines map at 5:47 has an odd way of naming a few cities. Specifically Lilac City instead of Spokane, Mile High City instead of Denver, and Big Apple and New Ark.

    • @kjhuang
      @kjhuang Год назад

      I don't think it's an official SWA map.

    • @lavalampluva55401
      @lavalampluva55401 Год назад

      Spokane has the nickname of "Lilac City"

  • @robfreedman6496
    @robfreedman6496 Год назад +1

    Awesome video and it's awesome living in a city that is an airline hub, Phoenix!

  • @walkerpantera
    @walkerpantera Год назад

    great topic, very interesting factoids

  • @davidgrech4574
    @davidgrech4574 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for your video. Back in 1989 I worked for an air freight company and I would fly from San Francisco to Tokyo and then to Hong Kong and spend a day in Hong Kong and back to Tokyo and then back to San Francisco twice a week. It was so fun for a while but I got burnt out and had to give it up. Well I’ll be looking for your next video 👍🌎

  • @TheLickalittle
    @TheLickalittle Год назад

    Good vid, Kyle

  • @runkerjust
    @runkerjust 2 месяца назад

    amazing video

  • @Denebreus
    @Denebreus Год назад

    Liked the Denver/New Delhi factoid at the end.

  • @sirbanjorochambeaux
    @sirbanjorochambeaux Год назад +1

    Denver to Frankfurt... Lufthansa 774/775 and only on Saturday... made the trip a few times for work.

  • @Red_Ryan_Red
    @Red_Ryan_Red Год назад +1

    Awesome video. I love air travel facts and figures. (Even though train travel is number 1)

  • @CosmicFishbowl
    @CosmicFishbowl Год назад +38

    Air Canada’s decline was a self imposed shot to the foot by Canada’s government.
    I did quite a bit of international travel in 2022, and while it was mostly back to business as usual in every other country, Canada was still acting like it was April of 2020 when it comes to Covid.
    They had huge staffing and security shortages at Toronto’s Pearson Airport, which lead to terrible delays, canceled flights and just general chaos there that lasted much of the year.
    Flying through YYZ on Air Canada last year was a genuinely terrible experience.

    • @theinternational397
      @theinternational397 Год назад

      The countries in Asia made Canada’s Covid response look like Florida’s. While Canada was moving on most of Asia were still hiding under the table from the Covid virus.

    • @marklittle8805
      @marklittle8805 Год назад +5

      We Canadians have always hated Air Canada on and off. And now the Federal Government with their mismanagement had made YYZ a horrible place to fly from. The airport is expensive and there is a ton of walking at the main terminal as their redesign just was a bad idea. The old terminal one needed replacement but what we got was awful. Couple that with all the short staffing, usual Air Canada bungling and voila, the perfect storm.

    • @jonathantitus2629
      @jonathantitus2629 Год назад +1

      I have to concur. By last year ALL the US airports we traversed were working, but only Frankfurt was anywhere as bad as Toronto and only Lufthansa was anywhere close to as abysmal as Air Canada. As I have planned our two upcoming trips my wife gave me very clear guidance to avoid certain airlines and airports--glad to say I have done so.
      Next trip is a direct flight from CVG to London and back.

    • @marklittle8805
      @marklittle8805 Год назад +3

      @@jonathantitus2629 the sad part is this: our government is always telling us how they have all this under control and the issues at Pearson were the fault of travellers

    • @CosmicFishbowl
      @CosmicFishbowl Год назад +1

      @@marklittle8805 Wow, that’s funny. The fault of the travelers?

  • @andrepoiy1199
    @andrepoiy1199 Месяц назад

    Air Canada's hubs are also pretty simple - Vancouver for west coast and pacific, Toronto for east coast and atlantic.
    Also WestJet is based in Calgary and basically is its only hub. It's also no longer a budget airline - it transitioned to becoming full service in like 2018.

  • @michaelmiddleton3311
    @michaelmiddleton3311 Год назад

    Super Geeky! Thanks Kyle!!!

  • @erik_griswold
    @erik_griswold Год назад +4

    Airport hub history:
    Seattle: Was a large base for Northwest (merged with Delta). They used to work with Alaska for the local stuff but DL and AS had a falling out after the merger.
    SLC: Originally a hub for Western Airlines (merged with Delta)
    PHX: Hub for America West who later bought USAirways but kept the latter name. USAirways then bought American and again kept the latter name.
    MSP: Northwest hub before merger with Delta
    DTW: North Central hub before they merged with Southern to form Republic which later merged with Northwest
    IAH: Continental hub due in part to their history with Texas International. Became a United hub when CO and UA merged.
    Newark: Was the hub of PeoplExpress before Continental bought them in 1987. Before PE, Newark was a fairly quiet and empty place. CO grew the place using a new terminal (C) PE had designed and started construction on. United got it in the merger with CO and this is why they don’t find JFK worth serving despite trying again to do so recently.
    Both AA and UA have hubs in Texas and O’Hare. Southwest is a Texas airline that grew to have a major operation at Chicago-Midway, and even helped getting the new, much larger, terminal built there. I don’t see how any decline in Chicago or Illinois has any relevance to the fates of those three airlines.

  • @yudap
    @yudap Год назад

    Nice song reference there at the end.

  • @Texas_Pariah
    @Texas_Pariah Год назад

    Well done!

  • @APHill-ip8qt
    @APHill-ip8qt Год назад

    Thanks King!

  • @wankertanker1813
    @wankertanker1813 Год назад +3

    The very first flight of my life was Chicago to Narita, Tokyo, Japan when I was like 22yrs old. It was over 12 hrs non-stop. Or 14. Don't remember, it was a long time ago. Or 13. Was a little nervous during the climb, but was ok after that.
    Airports are like little mini-cities. I wish air travel didn't take so much fuel.

    • @crabring
      @crabring Год назад +2

      I just wish it wasn't so expensive

  • @boogitybear2283
    @boogitybear2283 Год назад

    I used to fly to St. Louis from Little Rock a lot on Southwest in 2005 because Busch Stadium 2 was being demolished once the season ended. I loved it. Soon as I got off the plane, I would take the MetroLink directly into Downtown and get off at the Stadium exit. Great times!