How Airlines Decide Where to Fly
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2019
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It’s simple. I see Wendover Productions with a video involving aviation, I click like
same goes for my videos PRANK i only get dislikes
Unoriginal comment.
That's almost every Wendover video, holy shit
So... You see a wendover productions video?
Normie
@WendoverProductions is slowly becoming the ultimate How To Start An Airline guide.
I wonder if that 10 year old in Australia who wrote to Qantas CEO about starting a new airline is one of the subscribers.
I'm actually in the planning process of starting my own airline based off his videos...It's a slow process because not every video is about planes. Although, surveys show their isn't much interest in flying on "Slightly Crooked Airlines"
@@slightlycrookedworkshop SCW Airlines. you're welcome.
You should do a video on how Hartsfield Jackson ATL became the most busy airport in the world
This would be an amazing video
this
I thought it was Dubai
@@nordwind8726 its atlanta
@@aviationandmemes1627 oh ok thx
One thing that airlines also take into account when evaluating the successfulness of a route is the cargo traffic on that route. Sometimes the passenger cabin is half full, but the cargo hall is full of goods, and that makes it profitable
Route like this is perfect for the passengers who fly economy , who can have more room to move around, i flew on a plane which less than half full, a lot of passengers get the full rows to themselves and lie down to can take a nap
You mentioned Wow Air in this video, and now I'm wondering. Will we see a video about WOW's sudden collapse? I'd be interested in that
Chloe Yurkovich Budget airlines that relied on tacking on fees to generate revenue and got hit with higher fuel prices and and reduced tourism to a specific location (Iceland)
Chloe Watch bankrupt wow air
Wow Air collapsed?!? They will always have the coolest livery!
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They take a sheet of paper, write down random locations, and play spin the bottle. Wherever the bottle lands, they fly to.
The eel seems like a really cool yes theory video
Sounds like a good way to plan flight simulator routes
Not the worst thing to do. Since any of location still has to be able to accept plane type company is going to use for that route etc., some of random route could actually be profitable. Now, were I can buy cheap 737-100? (I want stairs with me in plane so can land and let people out/in anywhere I want)
The eel is this some sort of rich people joke I’m too poor to understand?
"Alright, spin the starting airport bottle!"
"It says... London Heathrow!"
"Awesome, now the destination."
"Er… Pyeongyang..."
"Welp… you heard the bottles."
I actually prefer to travel on foreign airlines when going to foreign destinations. It feels like your trip abroad is extended, if only in spirit.
But Spirit, I’ll never fly on Spirit again.
Don't ever fly on Air India too if you wish to visit India.
@@mr.whatever1492 why
@@ShammahEmmanuelU dude, the flights are always late, food quality is really very bad and the flight attendants don't behave well many times.
@@mr.whatever1492 Yep, it does very horribly in showing indian culture.
@@mr.whatever1492 Am Indian. Can confirm.
Ah yes! Southwest Oregon Regional Airport's famous move to Canada was updated on the map. Good looking out! 3:50
Right!? I wasn't aware they moved to Canada. Thanks for the info.
I was going to say the same thing, lol.
Also London's move up to north-central England
😒
Thanks for making my day.
answer: they ask sam because he is an expert about airlines
Jake L try search sam chui
Very well known youtuber for aviation
They ask sam to say good stuff about their airlines. Thats it
Airlines spend a lot of money to know informations from aggregators of trips...
So here are these info I'm giving you for free as I altrady control the whole industry.
Sam is I think also Wendover’s real life first name
Lol i thought you meant sam chui
1000 years later: Planes can fly to the moon.
*Wendover Productions: Heavy Breathing*
Will you be selling Anthro-plane hentai to Wendover? Or is it not profitable enough?
ree
Pixel Bytes give Ratbat a google :^)
More like 50 years than 1000
U sellin' or nah?
3:48 "Southwest Oregon Regional Airport"
Proceeds to show Chilliwack, BC
WOW: let's go to texas lol
Icelandair: no
American: did someone say texas
Rip wow air ;-;
WOW Air just went bankrupt, lol.
helgi ‘wow’. So many airlines are collapsing 😞
2 world wars And one World Cup! Budget airlines you mean.
Dammit beat me to it lol
When he said that wow has stopped flying from Dallas to reykjavik I said well of course they have they're bankrupt
F for WOW Air
I’m a 747 pilot would you be interested in doing a collaboration?
I just finished watching your reactions/breakdown on Cast Away and Flight, good videos (y)
Chris L wow Chris thanks so much for that. Glad you liked it. I’m actually filming another movie review today for later this month.
My two favorite RUclips channels doing a colab? Please bestow this greatness for me
@@BrandonBelokin What is this a crossover episode ?
@@BrandonBelokin we will see if they're down to do one, maybe my channel is still too small for them to be interested 🤷♂️
How HAVEN'T you been sponcered by an airline company yet?
Conflict of interest. Not sure if that's actually why, but I don't want him being sponsored by an airline.
Samantha what about a flight comparison site like skyscanner or something
I don't know, you might be the reason why
He probably is.
@@joebowden4065 yeah, that sounds good to me!
Dude...that's not southwest Oregon. XD
That's Canada.
no thats washington
In either case, still not even close to southwest Oregon.
Looks like Vancouver
@@jacobkraus7279 No I live in Washington, that is firmly in British Columbia
This video also mistakes Manchester for London.
Hey it's a video about planes! Finally smth different from wendover production
Everyone should stay on the topics they know and care about, that makes content qualitative and you know what you get.
Imagine Wendover doing a game review or reacting to 6ix 9ine tracks
Sounds weird eh? :P
@@nullfunf4721 shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@@Anton-V Would've been a nice April fool's if you asked me :D
Null Fünf first of all of course he isn’t gonna do a music review or something like that. that was a dumb comment. but he bring up a seriously good point: Wendover has shied away from his earlier content when he made TWL, geography, politics, and history videos. however, and secondly he has a second channel, HAI, where he talks about all sorts of stuff. Would recommend. So you’re both right. He has shied away from other videos to make content on transportation. The video was great and thats why you’re here :)
So you're telling me they don't throw a dart onto a map while blindfolded?
You got here quick today
LOL you're quick
you're back
Hi Justin! Smoochie boochies! 💤
Justin Y. I thought you were semi retired? I still see you between here and alpharad videos
9:24 WOW Air has stopped flying to everywhere else.
I think you forgot to mention cargo. Even though paying passengers (and their luggage) contribute to a route, how much additional cargo an airline can ship between two places is also very important to a flight's continuation. There are routes out there that fly few passengers but a ton of cargo that make a lot of money for an airline.
How do trains decide where to go.
Dallas Conner generally where there’s tracks
@@romanbaranovichi5375 thank you for this response
afootineachworld generally where there’s roads
How do people decide where to go?
@@bobjames4560 where they want to go
Roses are red
Violets are blue
This guy loves planes
And so do you ✈️
Violets are violet!
And we love this guy
@@otzi1 :'D
Normie
I love airplanes
I just love seeing lines between cities.
7:19 lol one of the biggest advantages of international flights is I can often fly on a non-American airline.
Iceland's "WOW" just went bankrupt while you were working on the video production. LOL
That had been on the cards for a while though.
Who's next - Norwegian?
@@Jablicek Too big to fail, just like Ryanair.
@@m4kkillottu There's only so much of your fleet you can sell off before you no longer have an airline.
lol yup some other carriers bought their planes
Wendover and Airplanes
Name a better duo, I'll wait 😉
jedikillah101 Wendover and Trains 😉
RealLifeLore and Toyota Corolla's
Colonel Gaddafi and fashion
Chris harris and cars
Logan Paul and Backlash
Wendover Productions: Planes. Planes Planes!
Half as Interesting: Everything else...
he knows...
"more uninteresting bureaucracy"
*THIS ISN'T THE WENDOVER I SUBSCRIBED FOR!!!1!1!1!*
AlternateHistoryHub video idea:
What if Wendover Productions was not obsessed with planes
Not planes, Trains and not automobiles
Probably because it's what he knows best. his plane videos are clearly better researched, and enjoybetter, more obscure data about which airline flies where, or uses ehat as a hub. If you're making aseries of educational videos on the internet, it makes sense to spend more time on things you know, then branch out slowly
Then the world as we know it would not have existed...
@AlternateHistoryHub YOU SHUT YOUR FILTHY MOUTH! PLANES FOREVER!!!
@@StephanePare you have a typo your argument is invalid
I always thought they just flip a coin, like heads they go where they're supposed to, tails they go to some random place that the pilot wants to go.
03:42 Isn’t Southwest Oregon Regional Airport in Oregon and not in British Columbia?
3:42 uhhh that is definitely not Oregon....
Can you do a video about the collapse of WOW Airlines, that would be pretty interesting.......and awesome
There’s this smaller channel called company man that does videos like that, I highly recommend
Djs aviation is actually lit , highly recommend it
its pretty easy - they charged too low and were always losing money
You mean it would be... *Half* as interesting...
wendover production might as well considered plane as one of the 7 wonders of the world
Modern commercial aviation is a wonder of the world.
it is
3:40 “Why does my luggage tag to Oregon say YXX - Abbotsford BC Canada?”
You put SW Oregon Regional Airport in British Columbia (4:03), which is in a completely different country. You also put London in Manchester (1:46).
Well, you know how Americans are with geography
wow I didn’t know I moved thanks
Cockney Corrie.
As a pilot myself, I love the obvious amount of research you put into your videos.
Air Koryo is the best airline. Why didn’t you mention it?
lmao
Because it's nowhere near as good as North Sentinelese Airlines.
Air Crash Investigation no he’s not funny how DARE YOU think that someone would find Kim jung Un funny he is our supreme leader
Stay in Switzerland bruddah
That’s a opinion
i live in Dallas and I was thrilled when Wow Air announced it was coming to Dallas. I was looking forward to flying Wow Air but then they died
I love the way you explain things so clearly. Highly stimulating. Wish you would go through more examples though
WOW, since when Southwest Oregon Regional Airport is in Canada?! The map at 3:42 is waaay off
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it's just to have an idea, man take it easy.
maybe you're a proud native Oregon guy and you could be furious with him.
but us, the rest of the word, we now have an idea where Oregon is.
you should be proud of it.
I was just about to comment this, like wtf, since when is Southwestern Oregon Regional Airport 100 miles east of Vancouver?
Unless YXX renames itself to "Southwest Oregon Regional airport", the map is wrong
The point marked for Southwest Oregon Regional Airport is way east of YXX and by road is 870km to the actual Southwest Oregon Regional Airport. To say that it's a tad off is most amusing considering it's in the wrong country as well.
Can never wait to click when you upload! Especially when it’s about planes!
Wendover was actually my inspiration to deep dive into the economical and strategic aspects of aviation and you therefore played a significant part in the planning of my career which has now eventually led me to management consulting in the field of aerospace and defense.
Thank you so much for igniting that flame and the impact you’ve made, Sam! I truly wish you’ll do the same for many more of your viewers with your passion and expertise on otherwise overlooked topics that you manage to deliver so inspiringly on your channel(s)! Keep them coming, mate! Cheers
that's awesome!!! i have a similar interest in the behind-the-scenes aspects of aviation, and it's so great that you're pursuing a career in it!! :^D
@@adievalavanis thanks, man!
About direct flights: I actually enjoy catching a connecting flight, it gives me the opportunity to see another airport I'd otherwise miss, plus I like the challenge it sometimes brings eg short connecting times.
Your locations in the map were really off this time buddy!
He was drunk, leave him alone lmao
Some Dude how do u know?
@@microwaveee7537 hes joking
Imagine having to pay for going from one place to another....
_This post was made by an advanced future civilization_
Shut the fuck up.
@@bkbj8282 r/woooosh
that sounds like a BellCC meme
Luxembourgers from March 2020 on
Sid Meier's Civiliation IV wants to know your location.
Hey Wendover, just want to say that I super appreciate the cited sources. As a pilot myself, I always find it hard to believe some RUclipsrs making videos like these because there just isn't a good sense of from where the information came. That's why I have really been enjoying the annotations in your recent videos; I'm always sure to leave a like. I know it must be a lot of extra work to include the sources, so I just want to ensure that you know they're very much appreciated.
Keep up the amazing work!
That is some exceptional grade of delivering on expectations, Wendover. It's what we want from you, and it's better than ever. Thanks!
This is one of the most data-driven videos I've ever seen, even for you. Excellent work!! Really enjoyed it.
3:41 I didn't know Southwest Oregon RA was in British Columbia.
Matt Smillie ehhh, close enough
RyanAir just picks any airport and flies there as they know people will fly there as long as there prices are very cheap
So they cut also on routes planning office😁
#doesntmattercheapflights
thats also why you'll often pay double the fare just to take a 20 kg suitcase with you.
Yeah
@@francescobogoni3267 No let them do some exercises.
I was waiting for this subject! Thank you
Wonderful analysis. Nice video. Lot of knowledge from your channel about airline industry.
The moto of this channel and HAI should be "when in doubt, fly one out" judging by the sheer number of airline related videos.
3:52 You put Southwest Oregon Regional Airport in Canada and not Coos Bay.
farklemybrainsout BC bought it out
Also London was off at one part
@@theamazingwhaleshark4478 Idk why BC would buy something so Shitty.
Woof, that made my Oregonian eyes twitch.
Also, Coos Bay: Come for the fish, stay because you're now addicted to meth.
I think the airport is Abbotsford (YXX). Wonder how it got confused with Coos Bay (OTH).
I think I've found a pattern there: They always go to places that have an airport! Coincidence? Nah don't think so!
Also RIP WOW Air :(
Wow air is kil? No!
@@ratthew42 Yep, for 3 years now or something.
I admit, I love every Wendover Productions on air travel. It's very informative, and explains why airlines make decisions. I think many people should watch these videos before they think the airline is purposely trying to screw them with the lack of a specific route to scheduling.
When you’re from Oregon and you get triggered that he put your airport in Canada 😂😭
Edit: I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed.
By the way America will gladly take any part of Canada it doesn’t want. Your Canadian brethren in the comments agree 😭🇺🇸
I want to know how he got that so wrong lmao
Hes in the area of 1000 miles off course.
1:43 look at uk ;)
lol
I’m from Washington and I got triggered as well
Wendover Productions: "United is good at route planning."
Me: United is good at kicking people off planes.
yes it is and Russian airline is good at flying
Kyle are you still butthurt from an event that happened 2 years ago? Grow up man, United is such a great airline.
Carlos Castro Something similar happened recently soooo lmao
Thanks for the amazing video, as always!!
Great video into more of the behind the scenes of the complex world of air travel.
Dude, you put the Southwest Oregon Regional Airport in northwestern Washington or southwestern BC. Ignore my nit picking, great video! I always get excited for Wendover releases
Planes: *exist*
Wendover: I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!
Wow. Great Video. I really like your aviation content. Btw, loved the shot of Toronto City Airport you put in there!
Great video as always! Keep the aviation vids coming please!
Southwest Oregon Regional Airport is apparently on the Canadian border, according to the map......
Yeah, that was a mistake by Wendover Productions. The airport is closer to California than Washington... and definitely not in Canada. It's also on the coast, not anywhere near as inland as shown in the video.
Sharpen your pitchforks, boys!!
please never stop making videos about planes and airlines, i love them so much
Wow this guy really likes footage from Vancouverr International Airport YVR
And he hates Newark Airport
So much video footage from YVR. Love it!
*looks out the window and sees Mars*
Uh, which airline did I book with again?
*Elon Musk bursts out of the cockpit*
Thomas Turner fuck off you’re everywhere
RIP Harambe
RIP Harambe
Spacex
3:50 why is Southwest Oregon Regional Airport in Canada
He doesn't know simple, basic geography.
I reeeally appreciate how you draw your flight paths to account for the curvature of the earth instead of making a straight line between the two cities
Between the US and Asia (e.g. LAX-Singapore), the issue isn't that competing airlines are merely cheaper, it's that competition is significantly better.
United versus Cathay or Emirates? There's no comparison.
And at 5:27 what are they suggesting by placing a footage of AIR CHINA plane in their explanation of 'competition' issue for a SIN-LAX route which that airline doesn't covers?
100%
US air carriers are absolutely terrible compared to asian air carriers.
Wen Jun Lee Air China flies to both LAX and Changi from Beijing though, meaning they absolutely are completion on that route.
Iceland Air is seriously an amazing airline though. Best flight I've ever had was BWI to Reykjavik.
I already thought you were ill because there was no plane video for such a long time.
A lot of airlines tend to wet lease aircraft to test out a route.
Basically hire a plane with its own staff and sell tickets to see if people book. After a few months they can see if it's successful and if so launch their own flights
ty for including references. It's really easy to just say anything online without backing it up.
Me: I need to exploit a topic as much as I can.
Wendover Productions: Say no more.
It would also be interesting if you made a video about the logistics of Flixbus in Europe!
i just saw hat your a patreon of internet historian. that makes me love this channel even more!
Good work including those animations to bookmark your references. I hope this is something more content creators will do in the future!
9:57 was Toronto's Billy Bishop Airport on the Downtown Toronto Islands
Can you discuss how alliance partners affect route planning? I'm curious about the dynamic regarding routes conceivably served by both members. An example that comes to mind is AA flying DFW-LHR and BA also flying that route. Who gets what and how is that decided?
Love your aviation content!
Loved the little peak at Toronto Island airport in there!
Oh its another Wendover Airlines video ;
Or is it Wendover Productions 😂😂😂
Would be interesting to see how this differs to the process of budget airlines - looking at some of the really weird and obscure places Ryanair flies to these days
Thanks for sharing! I liked Delta's flight between Atlanta Ga. and Dubia UAE. At 16 hours heading west, it saved some time. I believe it was mainly used by contractors and state department folks. The flight was always full, east & west! It's a mystery why delta discontinued that flight, 07 & 08. The only problem, was a lot of jet-lag! When leaving America, I found it helped the jet-lag, to stop in Europe for a couple of days.
And got to know the best stewardess, Miss Mona Bell!
One of your best videos yet!
Your pronunciation of English cities kills me every time haha.
Birming-HAM
Arrr! 'E should've sed "Brummidgeum", shouldn't ee?
That’s the way it’s pronounced in the US, for Birmingham, Alabama, but yes the Birmingham in England is pronounced “Birming-UM.” Not “Birming-HAM.”
Whereas Sam is the first American ever to pronounce Edinburgh correctly…
@@Zveebo That's probably because he lives in Edinburgh. (or did at one point).
I'm sure he does it deliberately lol
anyone: he-
Wendover: HEY WANT TO SEE ANOTHER AVIATION VIDEO?
Fantastic ans informative videos, keep them coming!
Totally love your work!
Why is "Southwest Oregon Regional Airport" in Northwest Washington?? 3:50
Looks like it's in Canada when you look at the map, since it's far enough north of Vancouver island.
Looks like it's in BC
BTW. Southwest Oregon Regional Airport is not in Vancouver, Canada. It’s on the southwest coast of Oregon. So move that point at 3:55 down by several miles. Also, what about “paused routes.” For example: at PDX during the summer months, delta has nonstop service between Portland and London, but when the summer months end, the route stops... until next summer when they open it again. Iceland air does a similar thing on their Reykjavik to San Francisco and Los Angeles routes. And Condor also does it on their Frankfurt to Toronto, Seattle, Vancouver, Portland, and Pittsburgh routes. What’s that about?
In the late 90s/early 2000s there were zero non stop flights between the US and Brasilia, Brazil. All flights had to connect in São Paulo or Rio.
Now there are many direct routes to BSB from Dallas, Houston, Miami, NEwark, Atlanta
Yes yes yes yes! More aviation! Thankssssss
Aaaand we're back to planes.
finally a plane video!
Back to normal business. I clicked on like before even watching a second of the video.
Life just got better and became meaningful again.
8:03 Oh hey, my friend flew to Reykjavik from Dallas on Finnair a few months ago