I had a side business like what you do for almost 15 years because I didn't overcharge people and I built nice PCs that worked well. Most of my advertising was word of mouth and I had so many repeat customers that most of them are friends of mine to this day. Good on you for treating people right and keeping the used market alive!
I feel like it is much more saturated now. There’s more people attempting to sell computers than individual parts on Facebook now, and I don’t think there are as many people willing to buy second hand pcs
@@skarrerx8493 Totally agree. I repaired, rebuilt and did custom builds for a long time and it was a nice way to make a few bucks on a hobby. PC building is a lot more accessible nowadays and a lot of folks go for it and build their own. Not to mention so many RUclipsrs that have channels for exactly this sort of thing which pushes more people to try it.
@@TheJamesKF Exactly man, RUclips has made the used bc building craft more known and taken the market niche away sort of thing. It’s a shame because it’s always so much fun, I just don’t bother these days unless it’s for a friend or relative
That is actually Disgusting! How Dare! Store charging all that for ancient hardwares. That aside, as a former head of sales in a small PC hardware store, we had one of the, if not the cheapest markup on our products as a "reseller". This is where we as a store buy from the wholesaler, where the public cant buy. Throw a % on it for overheads wages and profit then put it on the shelf for the end user price point. Our markup was 38%.
Many businesses will get away with as much BS as the customer allow them, ergo women or even some men go to a car dealership or mechanic they get a bunch of jargon, a song and dance and milked hard
The saying Buyer beware applies to everyone. Do your research before laying down the bucks. The Internet has a lot of useful info. Learn and have a clue what you're buying.😊 Great video.
Absolutely! Going in blind to buying a PC is the worst thing you can do! It's a fools game full of scammers and people trying to squeeze as much money out of you as possible. Even going to a big electronics store, There are going to be staff that get paid commission and will say whatever it takes to get you to spend money on what they say you will want/need. If you plan on a noob journey of buying or building, Do your research! Know what things generally cost and what will suit your needs from many online content and what is a fair price for someone who may build it... And check out the reputation of any business you may think about using. Sounds an effort, But don't do it at your wallet's peril.
Jesus i would of loved to see the dude throw 1600 at any freaking prebuilt then his nonsense..... this is just crazy..... pure ignorance.... sheesh.....@@helenHTID
Had almost the same problem, gtx 1060 has to had the bios reflashed so it can accept newer drivers, and 2nd drive (hdd) had to be removed as it stops the PC from booting all the way to the desktop. The previous cpu mobo was a 4590 with incorrectible error, a first in the tens of PC's i've bought since the 90s but has been now replaced with i5 8400 + H310M and 2x8gb ddr4 which costs me total 140usd. Such upgrade went from newer games in slideshow mode to playable. Zelda TOTK emulation from 15fps to almost 60fps too.
I see the rip-off pc repair industry is still live and kicking around the world. This was happening when I used to do PC Repair. Shocking prices from that company. Good job Bryan.
I built much the same rig in 2020/21 for a lot less than that using an old Diablotek case from an obsolete AM 3 pc and a new power supply. These retailers are savage .I am not a gamer but with 16 gb of DDR4 and a GT 1080,it can do anything I need from it. Always enjoy your vids and a Merry Xmas from the USA.
Oh no, I still have a spare 1060 3gb from a 2016 prebuilt around, it was about 600-700 tops in the Skylake era (a bit of a my first GPU stepping up from integrated graphics deal). Live and learn in buying parts/machines I suppose. 7900XTX is amazing, 7800XT feels about where a lot of people should be, there are tons of great $300 options if people are willing to AMD. Vram starting to be a problem. Even new say a 3060 12gb lowest is around 250. This buyer got hosed for 1699, fleeced.
This kind of stuff is why since the 90's I've always built my own computers, or knew exactly what I was buying do my research beforehand for major purchases, no matter what it is be it laptops, cars, tools, etc.. and I've rarely gotten hosed. So many people just don't take the time to learn, and buy on impulse.
There have been times I was lazy and wanted an off the shelf PC. Always ended up doing a custom build anyway because it was a rip off in one way or another.
@@MrAkaacer Off the shelf is not always a rip off depending in your needs, you just need to do your research first to know what you are buying. For example for someone who's not a gamer, and just needs a PC for basic stuff, and does not want a laptop, then something like a Lenovo Thinkcentre Tiny that does not draw a lot of power, and works well on Windows, and most modern Linux distros can be a good choice. However for us gamers, and PC enthuist, it usually is better to build our own from new parts if we have the cash, or buy a used PC that has some life left in it for a good price, and upgrade it ourselves, than to buy a prebuilt "gaming" PC that that has a more than fair markup with specs that might not even really meet our needs.
yeah anything over $50 I at least give it a quick google to see if its good or not. you don't exactly need to be a computer wiz to ask the question "Is X worth Y dollars?"
I just don't get how anyone can spend that much on anything and not bother to learn anything about it before hand or at least ask if its a good deal or not. I don't exactly know computer science or how each part functions but I have the sense to at least look up what the market rate is for components or whats better than what
Wow, that was really bad, gotta feel sorry for them really that someone will do that. Overcharging people if you've done the job right is one thing, overcharging them for shite is something else. 😑I can't say I'm surprised but it still saddens me.
your the only youtuber that could help me satisfy my curiosity. please try modding by adding a generic/general heatsink in the vrm of a lowend b450m or any boards that could OC. im just wondering if it could compare to midrange boards. i've been seeing b450/550 from emaxx, soyo, colorful, maxsun, even in asus having no heatsink which i believe could affect their OC feature. thank you so much.
In most of his presentations VRM temps are a major factor, basically the cpu, power phases, bios settings, the snowman cooler or a stock downdraft cooler plus case fans. It is totally possible to hook up a DIY vrm cooling system on almost any board, but for almost the same price there is a board with that option available. SSD heatsinks come with pads very cheap these days. Side note that on most of those boards you will be limited to memory speed also. I like your thinking, lets frankenstein the vrm.
Pretty confident I know who the business is. Couple of years ago, my bread and butter was fixing computers people bought from them. Or taking them in as trade.
I like to hold on to my builds for a bit so I can tune and stress test. Recently built a 5800X that ran beautifully on the bench with just the 24 pin and the 8 pin cpu plug. Transferred everything into the case but this time with RGB and fans. Still ran great for about 3 hours, then just shut down. Hmmm 🤔. Power back on. On..Off. The 1000 watt PSU was used but tested fine with the PSU tester…….so I used it for the bench build and later when everything was transferred into the case. Guess it just couldn’t handle any extra load. It was toast. Guess those tester aren’t infallible. That’s the second PSU that I’ve had to change shortly after an install in a new build. The first would just shut down the PC for no reason, but still works to this day. Now a bench supply. Seriously considering not using used supplies anymore. Even if they test good, there’s no real load on the supply, so it has a higher chance of failing when that load is increased. It is what it is I guess.
@@grlmgor Perhaps, but it’s the AM4 platform and along with that comes upgradeability all the way to the 5950X…………so not really overkill. Larger power supplies allow for higher tiered graphics cards also and provide the user with a level of comfort knowing they won’t have to swap out their PSU when upgrading. In any event, is that all you got out of my post? It wasn’t about the size of the PSU as much as it was about the failings of PSU testers and the risk associated with buying used PSU’s.
yeah, i usually have spare parts from old builds from the last 40 years, and thats what it looks like, broken down parts and built a complete PC out of old parts, held together with bailing wire, and to save money , less than one drop of thermal paste, worth $200 sold for $1,600, now that guy is as crooked as can be
There’s a lot of people who is like this customer…getting ripped off by these stores…at least they found you now and will enjoy their pc in the future 😊
Yup, my family keeps asking from me about what parts to choose. They are more into multimedia stuff and not into gamin, but same principals are involved. Simpliest tip is that i go with quality, so pretty much highest warranty. Do you wana buy new computer every 2 years, or every 5 years. I go with the 5 year rotation. And teach them to clean them the dust.
I have never purchased a pre-built system from a computer store, have always purchased the parts and built the systems myself and have done that for around 20 years which was when I moved from my Commodore Amiga over to the PC. The only exception to that was with the first PC I had which I got built by someone else.
My friend's parents bought him a pc on his birthday in 2020, at the time they paid ~900-1000 USD, for a Ryzen 3 2200g + 1050 ti, and because of how expensive it was they actually used some of his money to buy it. My friend doesn't know much about pcs, so he didn't know that they got scammed until he told me how much it was recently. He was under the impression that he had a 3060, when i asked what it had, not that it said it had a 3060 when they bought it (it hadn't been released yet), they weren't false advertising it was just way way overpriced, he was just under the impression that it was what he had in his pc.
Nice, I am programer but do not have too much time to do stuff like you. I build few PC's and fix few laptops but have problem on my working laptop! Freezing randomly few times per week, memory is ok, temps are ok, load is not problem, seems it is graphic driver issue. Even after some time original latest driver freeze. After restart second monitors does not work, unistall graphic drivers help and run some time..
I bought a GPU like that with a broken fan blade, I cleaned it and broke another bland directly across from it so it would balance it out, it worked pretty good.
Your video on undervolting the amd 6000 series helped me alot, was wondering if you have rx 7800 xt video coming? Or could recommend one, thanks again for all you do to help the PC community
They got the cheapest parts they could just to call it a "gaming pc'' and sold it to someone unsuspecting. I'm all for saving money where you can but I also work in a PC shop and used motherboard, power supplies, graphics card and CPUs are norm we do install new CPU coolers,hard drives, memory (when we can), case and peripherals and clean and test everything thoroughly before we even consider offering it for sale.
This is why I would never buy stuff from a small no brand 'mom and pop' style PC store, as much as I like to support local small businesses. However with this industry they often have outdated stock, high rents and tiny margins so they pretty much have to screw you over to barely break even.
I recently bought a similar system - gygabite b75m-d3v bottom with case, power supply 450w, processor i5 3470 for 40 usd in total. I added new 2x8gb ddr3 1600 total for 20 usd. I added a new Artic cpu cooler 10 usd, 1x120mm in and 1x90mm out case fans new for 15 usd. I added video card 1050 2gb gddr5 palit 1 fan for 30 usd second hand. I added ssd kingston a400 240gb 20 usd new. The whole finished computer cost me 135 usd. 718 usd- that is crazy😈
This is why I started buying used Computer parts and building computers because when I went to sell my old one anyway would, you take this as a trade and I just paid $600 for it and you look at it and you're like this thing's got to be worth maybe $100 if it was working fully.
If youre ok with being a little bit ghetto, you can just break off the fan blade that is across from the already broken one and it’ll make the fan spin evenly 😅
i recently did a brand new build for an old customer, R5-5600 - 7600 - 16gb RAM 1tb HDD, B550AX wifi, 1TB gen4, 650W MSI PSU, decent case and a 120mm tower cooler for $1450. its ridiculous that big stores are charging this money and people are paying for it VS finding a decent local builder who will give them more for less money
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns AUD bro, i charged them $200 less than any store for the build, delivered it and helped set it up. Other than having 50% more VRAM the 3060 performs worse and is more expensive than the 7600
Holy shit. With 1700$ that poor guy got absolutely hosed. No wonder the company is out of business. Anyone aware of the pc market knows this kind of pricing is complete trash.
11:17 - You should highlight this issue in your next piece about economics, ie. during times of high inflation and economic stress, businesses become more dishonest just in general, cheaping out on materials (eg. construction companies using fewer nails for roofing, it can be anything), govt people are more likely to accept bribes (because they become afraid for their jobs too), product quality declines, packaging trickery expands, advertising deceives, etc. The Romanian guy Vee talked about this in one of his videos, detailing how the populace there coped during the communist era when things got very bad with hyper inflation, eg. he said fast food and even restaurant food became more strongly flavoured, because businesses would try to get away with using meat, fruit and veg which was not really fit for human consumption anymore, herbs & spices disguise the badness, and they're more likely to use leftovers the next day. Food inspectors don't stop it happening because they're more willing to accept bribes, they need money aswell. Meanwhile, barter becomes more common as normal money increasingly loses its value, people trade directly in skills and goods, eg. you know how to bake bread, I know DIY, so you bake me some loaves, I'll fix your fence, etc. The state hates such direct transactions because it's a form of resource flow the govt cannot monitor, tax or control, it creates a shadow economy. Eventually, luxury products can become a new form of money, eg. in Romania Vee said jars of coffee would often be traded for items again and again, never actually being opened, forming chains of exchange in order to obtain a required product. He also said state provided food ration vouchers were a disaster, because all that happened was everyone would always obtain the maximum of everything they were allowed, whether they wanted to use the items or not, because anything spare could then be used for barter with others, so rationing actually resulted in even worse shortages. Collectivism sucks. In my local main superstore (Tesco), the size of the slices of garlic bread in their typical 9-pack have shrunk by about a 3rd, yet the price has remained the same. Vee refers to this as hidden inflation, he has a chart showing how the weights of numerous well known confectionary bars have shrunk in the last 20 years. Likewise, main brand boxes of tea bags in Tesco (such as Twinings) have reduced their contents from a standard 100 bags down to 80, while the price has gone up a lot at the same time. Standard wine boxes shrank to a smaller size a few years ago. I've also noticed that the larger size versions of some products (which were better value) have vanished, eg. I used to buy 1kg bags of Tesco penne pasta, but now Tesco's own brand only has the 500g version on the shelves. Products often disappear and then return but listed as 'new' to entice people to buy. And I've noticed that discounts on "clearance" items (ie. food that has use-by dates for the day in question) are much smaller than they used to be, often to the extent of being not remotely worth bothering with; I'm sure much of this food remains unsold each day and is just thrown away, whereas 30 years ago, unsold bread (for example) was given directly to the homeless and those on low incomes via charities, or it was sold in the store very cheaply for students (I remember buying a clearance sliced white loaf for 5p from a Sainsburys around 1990). These issues will apply to tech aswell, companies and of course individuals cheaping out if they can, or indeed just outright lying or faking what's sold, which in the case of PCs is an MO with considerable opportunity for dishonest practice, especially when the buyer often knows so little about the tech anyway.
it wasn't Ed's pc's was it? Picked up a pc off a bloke that he purchased from them recently, they well over paid for it and i'm sure the parts weren't new. the cpu cooler was ancient
I just finished putting some older parts together into a build. The core of it is my 1st gen ryzen 1600, b350, 16gb ddr4 2800. Bought a nice looking tempered glass case on sale for $35 and found an 8gb rx570 sapphire nitro plus for $58 shipped on ebay. My old power supply went bad I found a new one basic 700w for $55. Had a slow 500gb ssd. Its all together looks great and running very stable. How much do you think this system might be worth if i sell it ? USD
i bought i9 9900k with msi 2080ti and 32gb ram and 2 tb ssd and 850watt psu for 450 euros used here in germany... What the hell cost 1700 bucks in that ???
I seen an intel 9400 or 9600 and a 1650 , used system, someone was asking 1000 Canadian dollars. Oh sorry, $999. In your money thats probably closer to $1200 it was insanely priced
What the hell? Dude told me he spent $800 on a 12th gen system with a gt 730!!! I was floored. Also had the notorious 1 stick of ram and a HDD!!!!!!! I got him some upgrades for under $150 that made it useable. Why do people do this? lol my upgrade also consisted of a rx 580
I will say this: people don't even do the bare minimum of a job any more. I've experienced this so often in the last few years its amazing to a sickening degree. it's like people have devolved into idiots. I'm 70 years old so yea I know what I'm talking about.
NGL, was disappointed that with SSD prices being so damn cheap now, that you didn't install a SSD boot drive and have a the 500GB HDD as a game drive. Would have greatly increased the user experience as you well know....
With SSDs so cheap you could probably get away with a single 1 or 2TB SSD, no more need for spinning rust. I built and sold used PCs (and hope to do it again) where I always made sure the PSU and drives were new; everything else was off ebay, RX570s and GTX1060 6GB. I still have a whole box of used parts, too... waiting...
@@PCFixer Yes, the price difference between 500GB and 1TB drives is small now, so I would probably opt for a 1TB unless a 500GB was on a great sale. But I never throw away working HDDs or SSDs, so I would include the 500GB in the build even if you put a 2TB boot drive in it. You never know what the user will end up doing with the machine. I love having lots of drives and space! I'm not quite at r/datahoarder levels yet, but it's not for lack of trying..... ;-)
I'm just about to buy a Ryzen 5, and I would love to know by an expert, (You, Grovel), the cheapest way to go with the only affordable specs I already own, also I havent yet bought a Motherboard! My specs are: PSU 600W / GTX 1060 6GB / DDR4 x2 8GB ram 3200 GHz / 500GB SSD / mATX PC Case: Aero Cool CS-107 , Dell 1080 Monitor, with a hard saved £160.00 to add. "Please can you advise this first time build Novice" "What Motherboard do you suggest" to run Windows 11 with a Ryzen 5 ????? yet to Purchase, Pretty Please can you please help this 1rst time builder, please. PS, Thanking you in advance & Happy Xmas to.
That's crazy i just sold a gtx 1060 6gb ryzen 1600 on a b450 motherboard 16gb of ram and 1tb ssd for 500 bucks aus and made profit on it. 1600 bucks that makes me sick haha Edit: b350 motherboard sorry
Holy s***, I recently built and sold a similar i7-4770 PC but was better specced (2TB HDD space, Asus Z series mobo, 6GB GPU version, 450W PSU, proper cooler) including monitor and gaming keyboard and mouse for AU$550 AND I made a decent profit. This seller is appalling.
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I had a side business like what you do for almost 15 years because I didn't overcharge people and I built nice PCs that worked well. Most of my advertising was word of mouth and I had so many repeat customers that most of them are friends of mine to this day. Good on you for treating people right and keeping the used market alive!
I feel like it is much more saturated now. There’s more people attempting to sell computers than individual parts on Facebook now, and I don’t think there are as many people willing to buy second hand pcs
@@skarrerx8493 Totally agree. I repaired, rebuilt and did custom builds for a long time and it was a nice way to make a few bucks on a hobby. PC building is a lot more accessible nowadays and a lot of folks go for it and build their own. Not to mention so many RUclipsrs that have channels for exactly this sort of thing which pushes more people to try it.
@@TheJamesKF Exactly man, RUclips has made the used bc building craft more known and taken the market niche away sort of thing. It’s a shame because it’s always so much fun, I just don’t bother these days unless it’s for a friend or relative
That is
actually
Disgusting!
How Dare!
Store charging all that for ancient hardwares.
That aside, as a former head of sales in a small PC hardware store, we had one of the, if not the cheapest markup on our products as a "reseller". This is where we as a store buy from the wholesaler, where the public cant buy.
Throw a % on it for overheads wages and profit then put it on the shelf for the end user price point. Our markup was 38%.
1600 bucks for THAT?? God dayum that is a blatant day light robbery.
4 years ago with parts way older than that. Consumers really need to do their research.
$1699?? Thats insanely ridiculous 😒
Many businesses will get away with as much BS as the customer allow them, ergo women or even some men go to a car dealership or mechanic they get a bunch of jargon, a song and dance and milked hard
Yeah I think you might even know who it was LMAO
@@pacifiststormtrooper8839 yes agreed
I'm literally throwing my GTX1070 away (got an RX6650XT)....Also a 350w PSU! on a $1600 PC!
@@brokeandtired literally, give it to me
Upon gazing my mortal eyes on that pc, I felt something die inside.
From a 1060 3gb to a 2080ti 11gb, that alone would be a jaw dropping moment for a gamer. Tech Yes City making dreams come true.
The saying Buyer beware applies to everyone.
Do your research before laying down the bucks.
The Internet has a lot of useful info.
Learn and have a clue what you're buying.😊
Great video.
Absolutely! Going in blind to buying a PC is the worst thing you can do! It's a fools game full of scammers and people trying to squeeze as much money out of you as possible. Even going to a big electronics store, There are going to be staff that get paid commission and will say whatever it takes to get you to spend money on what they say you will want/need. If you plan on a noob journey of buying or building, Do your research! Know what things generally cost and what will suit your needs from many online content and what is a fair price for someone who may build it... And check out the reputation of any business you may think about using. Sounds an effort, But don't do it at your wallet's peril.
Jesus i would of loved to see the dude throw 1600 at any freaking prebuilt then his nonsense..... this is just crazy..... pure ignorance.... sheesh.....@@helenHTID
Thanks for helping out the local PC community with your knowledge and services. Love from Bris Vegas.
Had almost the same problem, gtx 1060 has to had the bios reflashed so it can accept newer drivers, and 2nd drive (hdd) had to be removed as it stops the PC from booting all the way to the desktop. The previous cpu mobo was a 4590 with incorrectible error, a first in the tens of PC's i've bought since the 90s but has been now replaced with i5 8400 + H310M and 2x8gb ddr4 which costs me total 140usd. Such upgrade went from newer games in slideshow mode to playable. Zelda TOTK emulation from 15fps to almost 60fps too.
Giving parts a second (and better) life, great work TechYes!
I see the rip-off pc repair industry is still live and kicking around the world. This was happening when I used to do PC Repair. Shocking prices from that company. Good job Bryan.
11 blades, if you snap an almost opposite one off, it might be less unbalanced
I built much the same rig in 2020/21 for a lot less than that using an old Diablotek case from an obsolete AM 3 pc and a new power supply. These retailers are savage .I am not a gamer but with 16 gb of DDR4 and a GT 1080,it can do anything I need from it. Always enjoy your vids and a Merry Xmas from the USA.
I thoroughly enjoy watching you clean older computer parts
Oh no, I still have a spare 1060 3gb from a 2016 prebuilt around, it was about 600-700 tops in the Skylake era (a bit of a my first GPU stepping up from integrated graphics deal). Live and learn in buying parts/machines I suppose. 7900XTX is amazing, 7800XT feels about where a lot of people should be, there are tons of great $300 options if people are willing to AMD. Vram starting to be a problem. Even new say a 3060 12gb lowest is around 250. This buyer got hosed for 1699, fleeced.
This kind of stuff is why since the 90's I've always built my own computers, or knew exactly what I was buying do my research beforehand for major purchases, no matter what it is be it laptops, cars, tools, etc.. and I've rarely gotten hosed. So many people just don't take the time to learn, and buy on impulse.
There have been times I was lazy and wanted an off the shelf PC. Always ended up doing a custom build anyway because it was a rip off in one way or another.
@@MrAkaacer Off the shelf is not always a rip off depending in your needs, you just need to do your research first to know what you are buying. For example for someone who's not a gamer, and just needs a PC for basic stuff, and does not want a laptop, then something like a Lenovo Thinkcentre Tiny that does not draw a lot of power, and works well on Windows, and most modern Linux distros can be a good choice.
However for us gamers, and PC enthuist, it usually is better to build our own from new parts if we have the cash, or buy a used PC that has some life left in it for a good price, and upgrade it ourselves, than to buy a prebuilt "gaming" PC that that has a more than fair markup with specs that might not even really meet our needs.
yeah anything over $50 I at least give it a quick google to see if its good or not. you don't exactly need to be a computer wiz to ask the question "Is X worth Y dollars?"
I feel really bad for non savvy teck ppl
So many willing to sell their souls for so little. 😞
I just don't get how anyone can spend that much on anything and not bother to learn anything about it before hand or at least ask if its a good deal or not. I don't exactly know computer science or how each part functions but I have the sense to at least look up what the market rate is for components or whats better than what
Dang, people really need to do their homework before buying stuff they're not familiar with. Scammers and greed are rampant nowadays. 😮
Wow, that was really bad, gotta feel sorry for them really that someone will do that. Overcharging people if you've done the job right is one thing, overcharging them for shite is something else. 😑I can't say I'm surprised but it still saddens me.
Wow that shop is no doubt on its way out of business. With the way they treat this customer
I love your content and I want to be able to watch your videos in the future... So please, remember to unplug the PSU before taking out the GPU!
your the only youtuber that could help me satisfy my curiosity. please try modding by adding a generic/general heatsink in the vrm of a lowend b450m or any boards that could OC. im just wondering if it could compare to midrange boards. i've been seeing b450/550 from emaxx, soyo, colorful, maxsun, even in asus having no heatsink which i believe could affect their OC feature. thank you so much.
In most of his presentations VRM temps are a major factor, basically the cpu, power phases, bios settings, the snowman cooler or a stock downdraft cooler plus case fans. It is totally possible to hook up a DIY vrm cooling system on almost any board, but for almost the same price there is a board with that option available. SSD heatsinks come with pads very cheap these days. Side note that on most of those boards you will be limited to memory speed also. I like your thinking, lets frankenstein the vrm.
Pretty confident I know who the business is. Couple of years ago, my bread and butter was fixing computers people bought from them. Or taking them in as trade.
Bro I didn’t realize how crooked Australia people can be
That's everywhere man
haha...... ok guy........silly goose.......
even in Philippines they exist
I didn't realize any person on earth was stupid enough to buy something that overpriced.
Daaaaaaammn they did my boi diiiiiirty! 😅😅
Good on you for hooking him up with that 2080ti system though. You're a good man.
I like to hold on to my builds for a bit so I can tune and stress test. Recently built a 5800X that ran beautifully on the bench with just the 24 pin and the 8 pin cpu plug. Transferred everything into the case but this time with RGB and fans. Still ran great for about 3 hours, then just shut down. Hmmm 🤔. Power back on. On..Off. The 1000 watt PSU was used but tested fine with the PSU tester…….so I used it for the bench build and later when everything was transferred into the case. Guess it just couldn’t handle any extra load. It was toast. Guess those tester aren’t infallible. That’s the second PSU that I’ve had to change shortly after an install in a new build. The first would just shut down the PC for no reason, but still works to this day. Now a bench supply. Seriously considering not using used supplies anymore. Even if they test good, there’s no real load on the supply, so it has a higher chance of failing when that load is increased. It is what it is I guess.
1000 watts PSU for an 5800x is overkill.
@@grlmgor Perhaps, but it’s the AM4 platform and along with that comes upgradeability all the way to the 5950X…………so not really overkill. Larger power supplies allow for higher tiered graphics cards also and provide the user with a level of comfort knowing they won’t have to swap out their PSU when upgrading. In any event, is that all you got out of my post? It wasn’t about the size of the PSU as much as it was about the failings of PSU testers and the risk associated with buying used PSU’s.
yeah, i usually have spare parts from old builds from the last 40 years, and thats what it looks like, broken down parts and built a complete PC out of old parts, held together with bailing wire, and to save money , less than one drop of thermal paste, worth $200 sold for $1,600, now that guy is as crooked as can be
i have an old gpu-hd7770 with a broken fanblade, my fix was to break other fan blades to balance it out. it worked
I was about to suggest that! Weight reduction for better performance as well 😅
You did a bangup job of refurbishment on this PC, as usual. Nice work
Lovin' these kinds of videos and lovin' Tech Yest City!
There’s a lot of people who is like this customer…getting ripped off by these stores…at least they found you now and will enjoy their pc in the future 😊
Yup, my family keeps asking from me about what parts to choose.
They are more into multimedia stuff and not into gamin, but same principals are involved.
Simpliest tip is that i go with quality, so pretty much highest warranty.
Do you wana buy new computer every 2 years, or every 5 years. I go with the 5 year rotation.
And teach them to clean them the dust.
I think I had to upgrade a computer that was sold to a client ..it was an absolute disgusting mess.
The I 7 4770 is a good chip bought it new long time ago still running today. I have it paired with a zotac gtx 770.16 gigs ddr 3
Throw in a 1070 for like $60.
Time to set them Tech YES Straight!
That PSU is a massive fire hazard
I have never purchased a pre-built system from a computer store, have always purchased the parts and built the systems myself and have done that for around 20 years which was when I moved from my Commodore Amiga over to the PC. The only exception to that was with the first PC I had which I got built by someone else.
Keep the videos coming, is great.
My friend's parents bought him a pc on his birthday in 2020, at the time they paid ~900-1000 USD, for a Ryzen 3 2200g + 1050 ti, and because of how expensive it was they actually used some of his money to buy it. My friend doesn't know much about pcs, so he didn't know that they got scammed until he told me how much it was recently.
He was under the impression that he had a 3060, when i asked what it had, not that it said it had a 3060 when they bought it (it hadn't been released yet), they weren't false advertising it was just way way overpriced, he was just under the impression that it was what he had in his pc.
Nice, I am programer but do not have too much time to do stuff like you. I build few PC's and fix few laptops but have problem on my working laptop! Freezing randomly few times per week, memory is ok, temps are ok, load is not problem, seems it is graphic driver issue. Even after some time original latest driver freeze. After restart second monitors does not work, unistall graphic drivers help and run some time..
I bought a GPU like that with a broken fan blade, I cleaned it and broke another bland directly across from it so it would balance it out, it worked pretty good.
you are the a legendary dude keep up the work u are doing man
A few yrs ago someone was telling me about an "awesome" gaming pc they got, $2400.00 US...... no gpu. Integrated graphics pc. I was floored.
How can one manage to break a whole fan blade? I even touched a running fan with my screwdriver by mistake and the fan did not get damaged at all
@9:13 what spray is that?
I will ask again...how is DadMan? I haven't heard you mention him in a while.
Your video on undervolting the amd 6000 series helped me alot, was wondering if you have rx 7800 xt video coming? Or could recommend one, thanks again for all you do to help the PC community
They got the cheapest parts they could just to call it a "gaming pc'' and sold it to someone unsuspecting. I'm all for saving money where you can but I also work in a PC shop and used motherboard, power supplies, graphics card and CPUs are norm we do install new CPU coolers,hard drives, memory (when we can), case and peripherals and clean and test everything thoroughly before we even consider offering it for sale.
I used to build very similar PCs with almost the same specs for $200 bucks
tech tip. just snap the fan blade on the other side for balance ;) if your not reselling ofc
This is why I would never buy stuff from a small no brand 'mom and pop' style PC store, as much as I like to support local small businesses. However with this industry they often have outdated stock, high rents and tiny margins so they pretty much have to screw you over to barely break even.
I recently bought a similar system - gygabite b75m-d3v bottom with case, power supply 450w, processor i5 3470 for 40 usd in total. I added new 2x8gb ddr3 1600 total for 20 usd. I added a new Artic cpu cooler 10 usd, 1x120mm in and 1x90mm out case fans new for 15 usd. I added video card 1050 2gb gddr5 palit 1 fan for 30 usd second hand. I added ssd kingston a400 240gb 20 usd new. The whole finished computer cost me 135 usd. 718 usd- that is crazy😈
Just by clicking on the video, that psu is already sketchy... 350 watt?!?!
This is why I started buying used Computer parts and building computers because when I went to sell my old one anyway would, you take this as a trade and I just paid $600 for it and you look at it and you're like this thing's got to be worth maybe $100 if it was working fully.
this is genuinely the biggest ripoff i've ever seen in my damn life. that should be a 4060 rig for that price.
If youre ok with being a little bit ghetto, you can just break off the fan blade that is across from the already broken one and it’ll make the fan spin evenly 😅
Brake one of the fins of the opposite side to even out the wobble.
That's gotta be the most expensive inexpensive rig I've ever seen
Dont be cheap on the cooling for gaming, specially with this type of case.
Airflow is the only way, and have matching fans and leds :7
i recently did a brand new build for an old customer, R5-5600 - 7600 - 16gb RAM 1tb HDD, B550AX wifi, 1TB gen4, 650W MSI PSU, decent case and a 120mm tower cooler for $1450.
its ridiculous that big stores are charging this money and people are paying for it VS finding a decent local builder who will give them more for less money
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns yeah 😭
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns AUD bro, i charged them $200 less than any store for the build, delivered it and helped set it up.
Other than having 50% more VRAM the 3060 performs worse and is more expensive than the 7600
Yeah, that particular vendor is local to me.. I know they've stung a few people...
Holy shit. With 1700$ that poor guy got absolutely hosed.
No wonder the company is out of business. Anyone aware of the pc market knows this kind of pricing is complete trash.
Actually I want to know the best combo price/perf mATX mobo/cpu for 1080p 60/75 FPS... thanks
11:17 - You should highlight this issue in your next piece about economics, ie. during times of high inflation and economic stress, businesses become more dishonest just in general, cheaping out on materials (eg. construction companies using fewer nails for roofing, it can be anything), govt people are more likely to accept bribes (because they become afraid for their jobs too), product quality declines, packaging trickery expands, advertising deceives, etc.
The Romanian guy Vee talked about this in one of his videos, detailing how the populace there coped during the communist era when things got very bad with hyper inflation, eg. he said fast food and even restaurant food became more strongly flavoured, because businesses would try to get away with using meat, fruit and veg which was not really fit for human consumption anymore, herbs & spices disguise the badness, and they're more likely to use leftovers the next day. Food inspectors don't stop it happening because they're more willing to accept bribes, they need money aswell.
Meanwhile, barter becomes more common as normal money increasingly loses its value, people trade directly in skills and goods, eg. you know how to bake bread, I know DIY, so you bake me some loaves, I'll fix your fence, etc. The state hates such direct transactions because it's a form of resource flow the govt cannot monitor, tax or control, it creates a shadow economy. Eventually, luxury products can become a new form of money, eg. in Romania Vee said jars of coffee would often be traded for items again and again, never actually being opened, forming chains of exchange in order to obtain a required product. He also said state provided food ration vouchers were a disaster, because all that happened was everyone would always obtain the maximum of everything they were allowed, whether they wanted to use the items or not, because anything spare could then be used for barter with others, so rationing actually resulted in even worse shortages. Collectivism sucks.
In my local main superstore (Tesco), the size of the slices of garlic bread in their typical 9-pack have shrunk by about a 3rd, yet the price has remained the same. Vee refers to this as hidden inflation, he has a chart showing how the weights of numerous well known confectionary bars have shrunk in the last 20 years. Likewise, main brand boxes of tea bags in Tesco (such as Twinings) have reduced their contents from a standard 100 bags down to 80, while the price has gone up a lot at the same time. Standard wine boxes shrank to a smaller size a few years ago. I've also noticed that the larger size versions of some products (which were better value) have vanished, eg. I used to buy 1kg bags of Tesco penne pasta, but now Tesco's own brand only has the 500g version on the shelves. Products often disappear and then return but listed as 'new' to entice people to buy. And I've noticed that discounts on "clearance" items (ie. food that has use-by dates for the day in question) are much smaller than they used to be, often to the extent of being not remotely worth bothering with; I'm sure much of this food remains unsold each day and is just thrown away, whereas 30 years ago, unsold bread (for example) was given directly to the homeless and those on low incomes via charities, or it was sold in the store very cheaply for students (I remember buying a clearance sliced white loaf for 5p from a Sainsburys around 1990).
These issues will apply to tech aswell, companies and of course individuals cheaping out if they can, or indeed just outright lying or faking what's sold, which in the case of PCs is an MO with considerable opportunity for dishonest practice, especially when the buyer often knows so little about the tech anyway.
Retailers unfortunateley take advantage of the lack of technical expertise of their customers. This won't change.
It’s like one guy in my area “Fort Worth, Xtreme Computers And House Deals” look up how bad his prices are. He is a total scammer
Originally rocking the DDR3. Too savage.
it wasn't Ed's pc's was it? Picked up a pc off a bloke that he purchased from them recently, they well over paid for it and i'm sure the parts weren't new. the cpu cooler was ancient
I just finished putting some older parts together into a build. The core of it is my 1st gen ryzen 1600, b350, 16gb ddr4 2800. Bought a nice looking tempered glass case on sale for $35 and found an 8gb rx570 sapphire nitro plus for $58 shipped on ebay.
My old power supply went bad I found a new one basic 700w for $55.
Had a slow 500gb ssd.
Its all together looks great and running very stable. How much do you think this system might be worth if i sell it ? USD
You can sell it to a Roblox noob for $200
350?
@@MindsMouth It's honestly not that bad. fortnite and cs2 run over 60 fps
Hero of tech, hero hero.
All I can say is that I am glad that shop is shut down now.
Woe that rust and grime on the gravis card.
i bought i9 9900k with msi 2080ti and 32gb ram and 2 tb ssd and 850watt psu for 450 euros used here in germany... What the hell cost 1700 bucks in that ???
Where did you buy such a good place?
@@pulp2560 From a friend at a big discount.
@@basshead. Really good price in Germany, in France is painful for used part. 200 € for a 1080ti...a 7 years old card 7 years!
Remove the blade on the opposite side of the fan and it will be fine
And that's why we build our own PC's.
That amount of monies can get a very good 12/13th gen gaming PC @ Scoptec, CenterCom, PCCaseGear, PLE, JW, Computer Alliance...
Your a good honest man Bryan that is why
Couldn't they sue such a retailer? There are boundaries in everything also in profiteering especially on people's troubles
350w PSU my eyes are bleeding.
I seen an intel 9400 or 9600 and a 1650 , used system, someone was asking 1000 Canadian dollars. Oh sorry, $999. In your money thats probably closer to $1200 it was insanely priced
Noice flip . Keep up this kind of videos .
I can't believe someone paid that much for this computer, seriously got robbed.
Rip off merchants like that make the whole industry look bad, that’s why the company went out of business as word of mouth is key.
Absolute robbery!! 1700$ for that! Madness.
What the hell? Dude told me he spent $800 on a 12th gen system with a gt 730!!! I was floored. Also had the notorious 1 stick of ram and a HDD!!!!!!! I got him some upgrades for under $150 that made it useable. Why do people do this? lol my upgrade also consisted of a rx 580
The builder probably barley knew anything about gaming pcs, probably knew computers but not on the gaming level
Bryan, as for buying replacement fan or cooler, is it from a parted out not working card or is there way to get replacement parts for them?
I find them on eBay from parted out GPUs that have failed for one reason or another.
some manufacturers sell replacement fans too. I have bought a msi and gigabyte ones
Those that don’t know this is equivalent to 1120$ in the us
WOW thats a huge rip off!
If only he literally showed the price comparison in the first few seconds.
I will say this: people don't even do the bare minimum of a job any more. I've experienced this so often in the last few years its amazing to a sickening degree. it's like people have devolved into idiots. I'm 70 years old so yea I know what I'm talking about.
This PC is like from a mission in PC Building Simulator
lots of 'Gaming PCs' advertised with 730 gt in them. Makes me spew.
Tech Yes Horror Story Time!
NGL, was disappointed that with SSD prices being so damn cheap now, that you didn't install a SSD boot drive and have a the 500GB HDD as a game drive. Would have greatly increased the user experience as you well know....
With SSDs so cheap you could probably get away with a single 1 or 2TB SSD, no more need for spinning rust. I built and sold used PCs (and hope to do it again) where I always made sure the PSU and drives were new; everything else was off ebay, RX570s and GTX1060 6GB. I still have a whole box of used parts, too... waiting...
@@PCFixer Yes, the price difference between 500GB and 1TB drives is small now, so I would probably opt for a 1TB unless a 500GB was on a great sale. But I never throw away working HDDs or SSDs, so I would include the 500GB in the build even if you put a 2TB boot drive in it. You never know what the user will end up doing with the machine. I love having lots of drives and space! I'm not quite at r/datahoarder levels yet, but it's not for lack of trying..... ;-)
350 Watt PSU ? Really ?
I'm just about to buy a Ryzen 5, and I would love to know by an expert, (You, Grovel), the cheapest way to go with the only affordable specs I already own, also I havent yet bought a Motherboard!
My specs are:
PSU 600W / GTX 1060 6GB / DDR4 x2 8GB ram 3200 GHz / 500GB SSD / mATX PC Case: Aero Cool CS-107 , Dell 1080 Monitor, with a hard saved £160.00 to add.
"Please can you advise this first time build Novice"
"What Motherboard do you suggest" to run Windows 11 with a Ryzen 5 ????? yet to Purchase, Pretty Please can you please help this 1rst time builder, please.
PS, Thanking you in advance & Happy Xmas to.
Sounds like a Harvey Norman build. They want about 2k for a 5700G and a 1660 or something like that...
That's crazy i just sold a gtx 1060 6gb ryzen 1600 on a b450 motherboard 16gb of ram and 1tb ssd for 500 bucks aus and made profit on it.
1600 bucks that makes me sick haha
Edit: b350 motherboard sorry
The problem with this pc is the CPU, mobo, ram, hdd and gpu was junk...
wtf there is a VS350 model?!?
it's a office OEM pc prebuild replacement PSU being sold for a long time now.
Holy s***, I recently built and sold a similar i7-4770 PC but was better specced (2TB HDD space, Asus Z series mobo, 6GB GPU version, 450W PSU, proper cooler) including monitor and gaming keyboard and mouse for AU$550 AND I made a decent profit. This seller is appalling.