Unpopular K-pop opinion Cause Virtual Idols Won’t Last in K-Pop MAVE, PLAVE & Naevis!
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
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“Virtual idols like MAVE, PLAVE, and SM Entertainment’s Naevis are taking the K-pop world by storm with cutting-edge technology and unique concepts. But can they truly compete with real idols? In this video, I’ll break down the pros and cons of virtual idol groups, why they might struggle to stay relevant, and what companies need to do to make them work. Let’s talk about the future of K-pop and whether virtual idols are here to stay. Don’t forget to share your thoughts in the comments!”
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Well Plave has lives twice a week and connect with fans through bubble, fancafe and weverse. Besides, they have already done concerts and sold out. Believe me, their fans are well invested with them!
correct me if im wrong but at least PLAVE are real people behind the screen but I don't think Naevis or MAVE will last as they just aren't real and can't connect with fans the way other groups do.
Mave is also real person behind the singers is real people but they don’t show their face so virtual idols appear
Neavis atleast is just a part of Aespa’s lore. She is supposed to be from a virtual world. But atleast we have real people that are the Aespa members.
Bottom line is that AI can never replace the feelings of being human and relatabillity which is what creates a solid fanbase.
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I really hope these types of videos have more information/ research to back up the argument, because it's very hard to convince me otherwise, plave is literally one of the biggest new-ish boy groups last year, virtual or not. Like yes, the production may be expensive - but how is that compare to a traditional Kpop group?
@@hiroooni Virtual K-pop idols like PLAVE or MAVE have potential, but traditional K-pop groups still dominate in terms of revenue and longevity. Traditional idols earn income from diverse sources like album sales, world tours, TV shows, endorsements, fan events, Bubble-like platforms, ambassadorships, and solo projects. Virtual idols may sell albums and explore collaborations, but they lack the same level of engagement and flexibility.
While traditional idols require expenses like training, styling, and accommodations, virtual idols come with significant costs too-advanced technology, animators, and developers. For example, a typical dance practice for traditional idols can be filmed in a day, but for virtual idols, it may take 4-5 days with a larger technical team. These costs add up quickly, and if their album sales don’t perform well, it can be harder to recover the investment.
Traditional groups also have stronger fan engagement, often achieving higher MV views and fan participation, even when the music isn’t as strong. Virtual idols might struggle with long-term sustainability if their revenue can’t cover the extensive costs of production. In contrast, traditional idols have more ways to generate income and opportunities to improve after a weaker comeback.
@@Xiwangloo I’m writing my comment here in the reply section because, for some reason, my comment isn’t showing up in the main comment section 🫢
Since my favorite idol group, PLAVE, is part of this content, I have every right to voice my opinion. As a PLLI (the fandom name), I feel the need to clarify and emphasize once again that PLAVE is a group of 5 REAL HUMANS with a virtual concept. Their virtual appearances are brought to life through MOTION CAPTURE SUITS, and their virtual world is supported by technology called UNREAL ENGINE.
Regarding your opinion about the lack of emotional connection, etc., I think that’s inaccurate because, at the end of the day, they’re real humans. Every song, lyric, and choreography is created by them. They FREQUENTLY interact with fans, just like other idols do-be it through concerts, fan meetings, or RUclips content.
Just like other idols, they send bubbles, greet fans, and share their daily TMI. THE POINT IS, THEY’RE JUST LIKE OTHER IDOLS.
Most recently, they released a Special Clip video of a song expressing their gratitude to fans. The lyrics are FULLY IN ENGLISH, so fans worldwide can understand their heartfelt message.
The bottom line is, we PLLI and PLAVE share an emotional bond. They’re HUMAN. I don’t know if you’ve ever tried diving into their content even a few times, but if you haven’t, I suggest you do so. If you have, then I think there’s something wrong with your perspective to write an opinion like this.
As for consistent funding, it’s difficult to explain here because you first need to understand the virtual world, their concept, and how the company supporting PLAVE operates to ensure that’s not an issue. As fans, we always support any positive initiatives the company undertakes to back PLAVE. So, there’s no need to worry about it.
That’s all. If you’d like to discuss, ask questions, or anything similar, feel free to do so.
This is a major topic right now in the industry so thank you for making this video. While naevis, other virtual idols and AI in general is currently gimmicky, progression is rapid, and things are moving to levels that people can't even imagine. In the next years, human creators won't be needed, as personalised interactive content, of whatever and whoever you want, will be generated on demand and streamed live to your device. You can ask Karina to teach you how to make Kimchi Jjigae, and there she is, making one just for you. In the same way, infinite versions of k-pop content, including groups, songs, and full music videos, including interactive ones, will be streamed to your face, exactly as you want them. So, perhaps, the target will shift from creating an exact group, songs and music videos, to creating personas that AI can be trained on, so people can generate content and interact with. Those personas, can of course be based on real people who host events, are idolised and so on. I think this will make the big difference between "real" idols, and idols that anybody can easily generate - so yes, I think the real idol behind the virtual idol is necessary for success.
Nobody knows where exactly things are headed but that's my rough projection. Do I like all that? Nope. But like the personal computer, the internet, the smartphone and the social media - 4 revolutions that have changed our lives significantly the past 40 years, the AI revolution is here and people who won't adapt will remain behind like dinosaurs 🦖 As the K-pop experience is virtualised, new revenue streams for artists and companies will also appear. Making a song or a music video from scratch with real sets and people, could become something of a niche product for the vintage / retro lovers of the future, like it's now with printing music on vinyl or taking photos on film.
If you cant handle comments & keep deleting them then dont be a "tea channel", grow a spine and stand behind your opinions
What the fuck are you talking about ? I don’t even look the comments let along deleting the comments
Stop accusing me for something I didn’t do
@@Xiwangloo yet here you are lmao
You deleted my comment before, bffr. Flop account
She deleting comments??
@@l.o.v.edrive3466 deleted mine 😁
Do more research channel owner ❤
Sure bro
I believe plave has ex idols involved, so I dont really consider them AI. Their concept are more towards anime and webtoon lovers/enjoyers and heavy v-tubers. They remind me of daft punk. I dont know about mave though if they are AI or not though,but Im open to see what up. I was not really into current kpop until plave. Actually its been a whole since I got into kpop. Last kpop groups I got into was Girls generation, big bang, and Nuest. I got into plave cause I listen to alot of covers and one of the memebers sung a killer cover of OK ROCk and Kiss Of Life songs. Their vocals are no joke. Tbh I dont even consider PLAVE as current kpop. They dont fit in now in the current kpop mold. Kpop now in days try to much to fit into western style and focus too much on visuals and dont invest alot on their idols talent or build on them. More like a model agency now in days.
Girl, imagine someone falling in love with a virtual idol…
“Oh my goodness, I love what she has to offer. I love her inside and out, just like those gigabytes” 😩😩😩😩
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@a4xhx virtual idols like Plave are human though... There are people behind the avatars. You come to like their personalities and relationships with each other, besides their skills and talents
@@a4xhx nobody is falling in love with a virtual idol, just like how you shouldn't reach such levels of parasocial with any other idol. You're just exposing yourself lmao
Might as well just be a video game
Yeah like pubg there had so many hit songs
Benefits: Real idols are safe and don’t have to deal with the hate and crazy netizens
The downside: They’re not real lmao
La IA es una novedad y éso es temporal, además que es demasiado falso.
I remember when Plave won over real people. It was so unfair. Like why are drawings winning? Like yeah sure people drawed and animated them, but I won’t call them kpop. So they should have not win kpop awards or music shows. Like cartoons don’t have to sing or dance. The dance is animated from before and they normally just use the same animation over and over. If there are real singers who used their voices then there is still no way to know if they actually sing live. All we see are some cartoons and we can’t tell if they lipsync or not.
@@vixxexo6855 Bro, why do you think it’s unfair? PLAVE is just like any other idol group. They sing, dance, and even create their own songs and choreography, which not all groups can do. Let me emphasize again: they’re real humans with a virtual concept, using motion capture suits to bring it all to life. It’s really that simple, but somehow you can’t (or maybe refuse to) understand it. Or maybe u still in confuse? Ask anything, and I will explain it to u
i'm sorry? plave are REAL HUMANS too, they're 5 real humans that formed a group that called plave and the humans behind them are FIXATED, so no one can replace the members behind them. Please do your research before you spout nonsense herw cause you clearly know nothing about them. They DID sing and dance like any other kpop groups, and they even almost ALWAYS did it live, you can check their live performance, check some expert in musics that react over their performances too, you can clearly tell that they perform live, if you are wondering how they did the live performances, you must be familiar with 'filters' right? That's how they did it, they perform live with their filters on. They even have to PRODUCE and COMPOSE their own songs (only 3 members create ALL songs they have), and they also have to CHOREOGRAPH their own dance choreography and they are their own stage director (it's the rest 2 members) which is NOT EVERY KPOP GROUPS could do that. They can't interact with fans? open your google/tiktok/X/any platforms that has search funtion in it and you can see that they interacted with their fans IN REAL TIME at the concert, they did fancall, they even do livestreams more than any kpop groups i know (2 livestreams and 1 varshow every weeks and the minimum duration for each livestreams were 2 hours, every eps of varshow's duration were around 30-50 minutes long, it still not include any special events like they sometimes did collab with other idols so they will have to appear there too). They didn't work hard? they even have to go home around 4 am in the morning cause of work bro, and when they went home, they sometimes continue to work again. A members even passed out before the livestream start once and he had to go to hospital bcs of that but he still insist to go to livestream after he went to hospital (and he did), a members got nosebled bcs of overwork too in their livestream, they got sick a lot bcs they insist on overworking themselves so they can give the best to their fans, so you can't say that it's unfair.
you know nothing about them bruh..💀
1. They are not drawings.
2. They're kpop idols, who use motion capture suits to portray themselves as avatars as a concept.
3. Their songs are good, they dance, they sing, they make their own music. They deserve the win.
Please at the very least google them before you speak. They train as hard as any idol, they dance and sing. They even compose and choreograph their own songs. They deserve every bit of the success they have been experiencing