Perfect. Thanks. This is what I was looking for. I have a Cardo PackTalk Duo coming for my wife and I to communicate two up, but also have a riding buddy with sena 20S. I was hoping we could all communicate 😁👍
how did that go? did you have to keep tapping your Cardo every time you wanted to talk to your buddy, or could you just leave it open during the whole ride?
So that means that I can’t have my phone connected to the sena and also the cardo? All of my friends have sena 20s and I have a cardo smartpack, can we all be connected at least toggling AND have our phones connected with our personal intercom?
It's interesting that you put the Sena in Mobile Phone Pairing. I would have thought it would have to be in Universal Intercom Pairing mode. I've been trying to pair my friends Packtalk with my Sena with no luck at all. When he had the older Scala Rider Q1, would pair with the Sena in Universal Intercom Pairing mode.
leadfooty Anytime you want to pair one brand with a different brand, you’re gonna wanna do it this way. One of them in Universal Intercom Mode and the other in Mobile Pairing Mode. All of the manufacturers use the same method, so this will apply to all brand-combinations....hope that helps!!
raythedestroyah Thanks man! If that’s the case, you’re going to have to roll in “Bluetooth Intercom Mode” (because there’s nobody to use the DMC Mesh with), BUT, you will all be able to communicate. However, as soon as at least half of you have Packtalk everything changes for the better. The Packtalks would hookup in DMC Mesh Mode, and you can use the “DMC Bridge” feature to pull the rest of the Sena’s into the conversation. WAY more stable and works very very well. Hope that makes sense!
Thanks for the vids-very informative. I have a schuberth c4 which I believe has a sena 10. Will the same procedures apply ? trying to get a 4 way with 3 sena's and one packtalk
Ralph Haben Thanks! Since you have more Sena’s then Cardo’s, you’re gonna want to do it the opposite way: use the SENA’s “universal pairing mode” to tap into the CARDO’s “mobile phone pairing mode”. You don’t want to put both in “universal pairing mode”....always just one in Universal mode and one in Mobile pairing mode. Hope that makes sense and good luck!
I bought the Packtalk Bold and so far so good. However, do you think Universal Pairing will pair with a Sena Freewire? Freewire isn't a headset, but I'm wondering if the Cardo would know the difference.
leadfooty From what I can find/read, the Freewire pairs like a normal A2DP device (mobile phone pairing mode), so I would try pairing it to Packtalk Bold via the Mobile Phone Pairing first. I don’t think Universal Intercom pairing is goin to work. Once paired, you SHOULD be able to hear the music from the bike, however if also using cb, you will be able to hear but not be able to broadcast back out. Sena reserved that ability for their headsets only...:/
Didn't see any of you videos pairing the Cardo Packtalk Bold to a camera for recording any and all voice communication. I want to motovlog while riding my bike. So o want to record my speech onto my video simultaneously. Either wireless or hard wired. GoPro or Sena or any quality camera that has 1080i. Can it even be done?
DOESN'T WORK: I have the exact same setup, Packtalk Bold and Sena 20s paired exactly the way you have them here. While pressing the intercom button on the Packtalk seems to initiate / open intercom with the 20s every time, pressing the back button (as you call it) doesn't seem to reliably be able to initiate / open intercom with the Packtalk (I've only had it work 2 times). Have you actually tested / confirm this works reliably? If so, what version firmware? Anyone else experience this problem?
I've had the exact same issues before (mostly when pairing to a Sena 20s for some reason), and to be honest I have no idea why. Many times when trying to activate the intercom session from the 20s via hitting the Mobile Button (aka the back button;) I'll hear something along the lines of "mobile phone, connected", then I'll have to hit it again. Even that can be hit or miss. Here's what seems to give me the "best bet" when pairing to a Sena 20s. 1. Do the master reset on the 20s via that little pinhole button on the backside. 2. Pair the Packtalk/Bold to the 20s exactly like this video describes. 3. Power-cycle both headsets. 4. Wait to for the units to fully power-up (during this time they are re-recognizing each other) 5. See if you can reliably open/close the intercom session via the back button on the 20s. Hope this helps and works for you! If not, do you have another 20s unit or one that you can borrow? Sounds crazy, but it may work better/as it should with a different 20s module (I've had this happen many times....).
@@MotoGeekFreak Thank you for taking the time to make all these videos. It's really helped a lot of us. So.... I found that the exact same workaround worked but again too frustrating and complicated for my GF. So here's how I solved it...(and another video idea for you)....I bought a Smartpack for her. I found out that the most recent 4.2 firmware "unlocks" the software limited Smartpack (was limited to 4 in DMC and no DMC bridge capabilities) and makes it a Packtalk. With the new firmware Smartpacks can now participate in a 15 riders DMC, has DMC bridging capabilities and well....is basically an incredible deal for $139 on Amazon Prime. So if someone has been on the fence and doesn't care about the Bold voice features.....now's the time to try DMC for cheap. While Cardo likely isn't promoting this due to not wanting to hurt sales on their Packtalks and Bolds....what a GREAT pivot by a company. My guess is that since Smartpacks didn't sell well they had a ton of them in the pipe and instead of abandoning that platform they decided to *gasp* do the right thing and open them up to protect their customers and resellers. Pro move and one I can't see Sena doing with their 30k disaster. Keep up the good work! -dmulk
Hi, I’ve noticed ur still active in the comments. I’ve bought the Sena 50r, most friends got a Sena. But my dad ain’t, and we ride from time to time. He has the Freecom 2+. We can establish an universal connection no problem. But, whenever he opens or closes the intercom it cuts us out within 15/20 secs. I saw someone else in the comments with the same problem. Whenever I start the intercom (still not sure what button on the 50r) the intercom keeps working for ever. It’s just when he takes over and start/end the intercom we connection cuts out within 20 sec. Any idea what that could be?
Whenever I connect my PackTalk to my Sena 10S it disconnects around a minute or two later. Then I press a button on either headset and they’ll connect again for another minute or two then they’ll disconnect again. Any suggestions?
Question: could it be due to range (I know that cross-brand pairing range is pretty short at best)? If you're confident that's not the issue- the only thing i'd recommend is doing a complete reset on both and giving her another shot. On your Packtalk its done by holding all 3 buttons down (checkout the Master Reset vid I did); on the Sena it's going to be by finding a little pin and putting it in the hole in the back of the unit (sounds weird but that's how it's done). Hope that helps and good luck!
In the pairing above, the Packtalk (depending on phone; Android yes, iPhone maaaaybe) would still have audio overlay/multitasking, but the 20s (or "other" headset) would not. Reason being: the Packtalk is treating this relationship as a real intercom pairing, but the "other" headset is treating is as a phone pairing. So- when intercom between these 2 is open, the "other" headset thinks it's on a phone call and won't multitask audio with an active "phone call"....does that makes sense? Hope it helps a bit!
Technically yes...I haven't tried this but give it a shot; should work. Have the 4 Sena units connect to each other like they normally would. Then, have 1 of the Sena units use Universal Intercom Pairing to pair with one of the Cardo Bolds (the Cardo will have to use Mobile Phone Pairing to pair correctly in this case, as the video desribes). Then, once that intercom between the Sena and Cardo is open, tap the Intercom button on the Packtalk one time. This activates the "DMC Bridge" feature, which should merge the Cardo DMC group with the Senas. Good luck and hope that makes sense!
hi, i have been trying to make my unit work but it wont listen to my commands, its a brand new packtalk bold, i dont know why it is so, i was hoping you could help, thank you very much
Nicolas Ramirez Amado Hey there. Have you checked out the video I did on Natural Voice Command? If not, do so, because that’s basically how you want to talk to this thing. No pausing or waiting for a beep, just say the command. Couple more things, make sure you are using the exact commands, and also make sure to talk at a “normal” volume. Sounds weird I know, but when I shout or talk elevated it won’t respond; talking normal, it works really well. Could this be the issue you think? Hope this helps a bit!!!
Nicolas Ramirez Amado Hmmm. This sounds stupid, but maybe try the other mic that comes with it? Wonder if something’s wrong with the mic perhaps? If that doesn’t do the trick it might be worth giving them a call to see what’s going on. Best of luck and hope that works!!
Hi there MotoGeek, I have a cardo smart set and tried pairing with my friends BT1000M headset it seems to connect for a second then my unit switches off completely, any suggestions? Regards Paul
Paul Simpson I’ve had this happen before...try doing a total reset on the other headset (the BT1000M in your case), this SHOULD fix it fingers crossed. Do universal pairing on your Cardo, and Mobile Phone Pairing Mode on the BT1000M to pair them... hope this works and helps!!
@@MotoGeekFreak Hi, i have the same problem. The only thing is on my other device (a cheap chineese bt-s2) there is no way to reset the device.. I have both tried the A channel and the B channel on my packtalk bold. Do you have any other suggestions? Btw love your vids, because of your detailed video's I bought the Bold for both my girlfriend and I! :)
leon166pro Hmmm. Well on Packtalk Bold (and any Packtalk running over v4.0 software)its always gonna be the A Channel, then tapping the Mobile button once for universal pairing. BUT, if this isn’t working with the Chinese one then Dang!!! I’m kind of stumped, and you’re definitely doing Universal on Packtalk and Mobile on the Chinese one? Side note: glad to hear the vids are helpful!!! Other than this case, of course lol
@@MotoGeekFreak Ditto to what Leon166pro says. I have this same issue with the BT-S3 and no amount of powering it on and off will resolve it. They will connect for about 2 seconds and then the Packtalk will just shut itself down as if to say "Sorry cheap chinese com, you're not worthy, peace out!" I just gave up and bought another Packtalk. Thanks for your videos, they're better than the official Cardo tutorials.
Jody Zung 😂😂 that may indeed be the case!! Lol. I’m stumped as to why it wouldn’t work with the cheapy-one but seems like an issue that others have had as well with those things. Glad you found a proper solution 😜👌
Finally successfully paired my cardo packtalk bold with my dad's sena 30k using this method! But it keeps cutting out every few seconds... 😓 I'm trying to pair them the opposite way, but my cardo just isn't recognising the sena. I have it on Bluetooth mode and I'm using the same method to pair a mobile phone and my dad is trying to pair via bluetooth intercom. Are we missing something or is that not how you pair them the opposite way?
Thanks for the suggestion and I will try to make a vid on this (probably a pretty common thing!). Until then; yes it is do-able and here's the way I'd recommend doing it: **You'll be utilizing the "DMC Bridge" feature of Packtalk (see vid on that). This feature lets you bring Bluetooth headsets into your DMC/Mesh Packtalk group. -Create a Group with your 2 Packtalks in DMC/Mesh Intercom Mode -Switch Packtalk over to Bluetooth Intercom Mode, and Pair each Packtalk to one of the 20s headsets (so in your case, Packtalk "1" to 20s "1", and Packtalk "2" to 20s "2") exactly as this video describes. -Switch back to DMC Intercom Mode, and activate "DMC Bridge" by tapping the Intercom button once. When you tab this button, it brings the Bluetooth headset that it's paired to (in this case the 20s) into the DMC conversation. Once each Packtalk has activated this DMC Bridge feature, all 4 headsets will be connected and talking. The 2 Packtalks will be connected to each other using Mesh (DMC), and each will be "bridging-in" a 20s using Bluetooth, simultaneously. That's a long explanation, and almost makes is sound complicated, but its super easy and watching the "DMC Bridge" video I did will help a bunch. Hope that makes sense and good luck!
I don't know why Sena has to be paired with phone mode, even though Sena has a universal pairing feature, Cardo must fix this on the next firmware update
Iip Rifai It’s the way any brand of headset pairs to a different brand of headset (they all use the same method). If you look at a Sena user manual it’s states the same thing: “Put the Sena in Universal Pairing and the other headset in Mobile Phone pairing”. I completely agree though, there’s much room for improvement on this for sure.
@@MotoGeekFreak the problem pairing with phone is the distance is very short, I think less than 50m, perhaps Cardo should add "non cardo client intercom" which act to allow pairing from universal intercom mode, so the distance can be far
@@iipx I totally agree. Universal Intercom has terribly short range compared to "true intercom pairing". If somehow the different manufacturers could pair/communicate without using the Mobile Phone Pairing slot it would be a great step in the right direction. As it sits now (with all brands), ONE of them is treating it like a true intercom pairing, and the other is treating it like a phone pairing which is inherently short and affects the overall range of that pairing.
@ caro Pahvoth I gotchu! Check it out: ruclips.net/video/WX4RS_QutXs/видео.html Same process and that vid is how to get it done. Hope it helps and good luck!
Considering getting one for testing, but can the Cardo bold connect to multiple Sena units like 20S and 30k at the same time? I ride with many around my area and most are on Sena such as myself with a 10S
So, couple things: Any one headset can only pair to 1 other headset of a different brand, BUT, yes, it's totally do-able. Checkout this vid I did on this, should help make sense of this: ruclips.net/video/We9oTBTq_ao/видео.html Now, of course, Packtalk Bold with other Packtalks/Cardo Mesh headsets will be a whole different (and insanely better) ballgame, but until then, you could do this. You would also still have the "Natural Voice Command" ability of the Bold. Anyways, hope that helps!
I am trying to pair to the cardo from phone 2 on the sena. Phone 1 is connected to a Harley whim. My friend are riding with cardo units. I want to have communication to the bike as phone 1 and the cardo paired as phone 2. Have you had any luck with this.
george mayer If you aren’t paired to the Harley WHIM then you’re Sena and friends with Cardo could pair/talk. But, the WHIM from Harley is making your Sena think it’s on a phone call (uses the same Bluetooth profile), so even though you’re probably able to pair the Cardo to your Sena, you’re not going to be able to talk while your Sena is connected to the bike, because your Sena “thinks” it’s on a phone call- which takes ultimate priority. I hope that makes sense and helps out a bit!
I have the Cardo unit, if I pair it to a Sena 20, will I need to push the intercom button everytime that I want to talk to them or is it always on like the Sena units that are paired together?
@CrispyBacon Once you push the button to activate intercom it will stay on until you one of you pushes the button to cancel it. So yeah, it will stay on if that's what you want, or you can push the button to open/close the intercom whenever you want. Hope that makes sense👍
Yes. If you have to use Packtalk in Bluetooth Intercom Mode (DMC Mode way better) then one click of the intercom button will get you rider "A", and double-clicking the intercom button will get you rider "B"
Unable to pair my bluetooth earphone using packtalk universal intercom pairing, but it works with sena universal intercom pairing, am I missing something?
(never thought of doing that...lol) Are the Packtalk and bluetooth earphone pairing to each other? If so, you SHOULD be able to click the Intercom button on Packtalk to activate the "intercom" session. Takes a few seconds sometimes but should work. If not, and assuming that the Packtalk/bluetooth earphone are pairing to each other, try turning both of them off, then back on...wait for Packtalk to say "Rider A connected", then tap the Intercom button to try and connect. Hope that helps!
This is my question. Scenario: we have an older guy who rides with us and he regularly drives the support vehicle along side on long trips. He should talk with us. How do we get him on the network without his helmet on in the truck? If he had a Bluetooth stereo in his new truck could he connect? Would he need a Bluetooth headset? Or can we rig up a custom made cardo, over the head, headset with mic to stay in touch. Thanks for all you do!
@Drew Yager In this video, the Packtalk would yes still be connected to your phone because it's the one using it's "Universal Intercom" pairing; the OTHER headset is using "Mobile Phone" pairing to make this connection happen (the way ALL cross-brand pairing is achieved...see my vid on Golden Rules of Univiersal Intercom for more info on this) so if the OTHER headset can is capable of pairing to 2 Mobile phones then yes; if it can only handle 1 Mobile Phone pairing, then no, because it would already be taken by the Packtalk for intercom. Hope that makes sense!
Info for anybody trying to link Cardo Freecom 1+ and Sena 20s.. I was able to pair them successfully but still could not get sound connection from my gfs helmet to mine I was getting very frustrated as I knew they had paired successfully because each one says so. Cardo paired very quickly in gateway mode and a few seconds after sena paired up in phone pairing mode… so still no sound connection. I kept trying many times thinking maybe they were getting disconnected somehow someway… so the last time I paired once more, after hearing paired successfully from both headsets I then pressed the phone button on the sena quickly and boom I could hear myself scratching the other mic… after a minute or two the connection cut out again… Devastation sets in… 😔 I’m glad I didn’t text my gf that I figured it out as I was just about ready to. Lol So once more I paired successfully, then just tapped the phone button on sena which is the back button THEN I pressed the intercom button on the Cardo which looks like a sideways WiFi symbol SUCCESS!!! PERMANENT SOLID CONNECTION. FYI if the Cardo rider presses his intercom button again it will disconnect connection but can be turned back on by pressing once more I assume because the Cardo was the “leader” and sena connected in phone pairing mode which is kind of the hack. I’m not trying it the other way around as this seems to work now. Hope this helps anybody who was cussing up a storm like I was. 😂
Perfect. Thanks. This is what I was looking for. I have a Cardo PackTalk Duo coming for my wife and I to communicate two up, but also have a riding buddy with sena 20S. I was hoping we could all communicate 😁👍
how did that go? did you have to keep tapping your Cardo every time you wanted to talk to your buddy, or could you just leave it open during the whole ride?
Good to see you back posting
So that means that I can’t have my phone connected to the sena and also the cardo?
All of my friends have sena 20s and I have a cardo smartpack, can we all be connected at least toggling AND have our phones connected with our personal intercom?
Can you make a video for a Bluetooth ls2 helmet with pack talk bold on another helmet I can’t get it to work
Great video explanation. I appreciate it.
Awesome thanks for the comment!
It's interesting that you put the Sena in Mobile Phone Pairing. I would have thought it would have to be in Universal Intercom Pairing mode. I've been trying to pair my friends Packtalk with my Sena with no luck at all. When he had the older Scala Rider Q1, would pair with the Sena in Universal Intercom Pairing mode.
leadfooty Anytime you want to pair one brand with a different brand, you’re gonna wanna do it this way. One of them in Universal Intercom Mode and the other in Mobile Pairing Mode. All of the manufacturers use the same method, so this will apply to all brand-combinations....hope that helps!!
Excellent and much needed hard to find training. What if I'm the only packtalk wanting to connect with some senas?
raythedestroyah Thanks man! If that’s the case, you’re going to have to roll in “Bluetooth Intercom Mode” (because there’s nobody to use the DMC Mesh with), BUT, you will all be able to communicate. However, as soon as at least half of you have Packtalk everything changes for the better. The Packtalks would hookup in DMC Mesh Mode, and you can use the “DMC Bridge” feature to pull the rest of the Sena’s into the conversation. WAY more stable and works very very well. Hope that makes sense!
Thanks for the vids-very informative. I have a schuberth c4 which I believe has a sena 10. Will the same procedures apply ? trying to get a 4 way with 3 sena's and one packtalk
Ralph Haben Thanks! Since you have more Sena’s then Cardo’s, you’re gonna want to do it the opposite way: use the SENA’s “universal pairing mode” to tap into the CARDO’s “mobile phone pairing mode”. You don’t want to put both in “universal pairing mode”....always just one in Universal mode and one in Mobile pairing mode. Hope that makes sense and good luck!
I bought the Packtalk Bold and so far so good. However, do you think Universal Pairing will pair with a Sena Freewire? Freewire isn't a headset, but I'm wondering if the Cardo would know the difference.
leadfooty From what I can find/read, the Freewire pairs like a normal A2DP device (mobile phone pairing mode), so I would try pairing it to Packtalk Bold via the Mobile Phone Pairing first. I don’t think Universal Intercom pairing is goin to work. Once paired, you SHOULD be able to hear the music from the bike, however if also using cb, you will be able to hear but not be able to broadcast back out. Sena reserved that ability for their headsets only...:/
Yup, that worked. Despite Sena telling me only the 20s and 30K would work with the Freewire, the Packtalk does work
leadfooty Wow, now we know!! Spread the word!! Lol. Crazy they would say only the 20s and 30k..?
Will the sena still be connected to their phone?
Didn't see any of you videos pairing the Cardo Packtalk Bold to a camera for recording any and all voice communication. I want to motovlog while riding my bike. So o want to record my speech onto my video simultaneously. Either wireless or hard wired. GoPro or Sena or any quality camera that has 1080i. Can it even be done?
Helped alot !
When a Cardo is paired to a Sena, can the cardo user still listen to their Bluetooth music?
DOESN'T WORK: I have the exact same setup, Packtalk Bold and Sena 20s paired exactly the way you have them here. While pressing the intercom button on the Packtalk seems to initiate / open intercom with the 20s every time, pressing the back button (as you call it) doesn't seem to reliably be able to initiate / open intercom with the Packtalk (I've only had it work 2 times). Have you actually tested / confirm this works reliably? If so, what version firmware? Anyone else experience this problem?
I've had the exact same issues before (mostly when pairing to a Sena 20s for some reason), and to be honest I have no idea why. Many times when trying to activate the intercom session from the 20s via hitting the Mobile Button (aka the back button;) I'll hear something along the lines of "mobile phone, connected", then I'll have to hit it again. Even that can be hit or miss. Here's what seems to give me the "best bet" when pairing to a Sena 20s.
1. Do the master reset on the 20s via that little pinhole button on the backside.
2. Pair the Packtalk/Bold to the 20s exactly like this video describes.
3. Power-cycle both headsets.
4. Wait to for the units to fully power-up (during this time they are re-recognizing each other)
5. See if you can reliably open/close the intercom session via the back button on the 20s.
Hope this helps and works for you! If not, do you have another 20s unit or one that you can borrow? Sounds crazy, but it may work better/as it should with a different 20s module (I've had this happen many times....).
@@MotoGeekFreak Thank you for taking the time to make all these videos. It's really helped a lot of us. So.... I found that the exact same workaround worked but again too frustrating and complicated for my GF. So here's how I solved it...(and another video idea for you)....I bought a Smartpack for her. I found out that the most recent 4.2 firmware "unlocks" the software limited Smartpack (was limited to 4 in DMC and no DMC bridge capabilities) and makes it a Packtalk. With the new firmware Smartpacks can now participate in a 15 riders DMC, has DMC bridging capabilities and well....is basically an incredible deal for $139 on Amazon Prime. So if someone has been on the fence and doesn't care about the Bold voice features.....now's the time to try DMC for cheap. While Cardo likely isn't promoting this due to not wanting to hurt sales on their Packtalks and Bolds....what a GREAT pivot by a company. My guess is that since Smartpacks didn't sell well they had a ton of them in the pipe and instead of abandoning that platform they decided to *gasp* do the right thing and open them up to protect their customers and resellers. Pro move and one I can't see Sena doing with their 30k disaster. Keep up the good work! -dmulk
Dan Mulkiewicz Wow Awesome tip!!! Thanks for posting!
Hi, I’ve noticed ur still active in the comments. I’ve bought the Sena 50r,
most friends got a Sena. But my dad ain’t, and we ride from time to time. He has the Freecom 2+. We can establish an universal connection no problem. But, whenever he opens or closes the intercom it cuts us out within 15/20 secs. I saw someone else in the comments with the same problem. Whenever I start the intercom (still not sure what button on the 50r) the intercom keeps working for ever. It’s just when he takes over and start/end the intercom we connection cuts out within 20 sec. Any idea what that could be?
Whenever I connect my PackTalk to my Sena 10S it disconnects around a minute or two later. Then I press a button on either headset and they’ll connect again for another minute or two then they’ll disconnect again. Any suggestions?
Question: could it be due to range (I know that cross-brand pairing range is pretty short at best)? If you're confident that's not the issue- the only thing i'd recommend is doing a complete reset on both and giving her another shot. On your Packtalk its done by holding all 3 buttons down (checkout the Master Reset vid I did); on the Sena it's going to be by finding a little pin and putting it in the hole in the back of the unit (sounds weird but that's how it's done). Hope that helps and good luck!
Does the audio multitasking on the 20s/packtalk work during this?
Best regards, and thanks for the videos!
In the pairing above, the Packtalk (depending on phone; Android yes, iPhone maaaaybe) would still have audio overlay/multitasking, but the 20s (or "other" headset) would not. Reason being: the Packtalk is treating this relationship as a real intercom pairing, but the "other" headset is treating is as a phone pairing. So- when intercom between these 2 is open, the "other" headset thinks it's on a phone call and won't multitask audio with an active "phone call"....does that makes sense? Hope it helps a bit!
@@MotoGeekFreakthat was what i expected, thank you!
Thanks this was my question could we both listen to music after this and the answer is no
Great video series keep the great content coming
Love these video’s 👍👍👍👍
Willem Pieterman Thanks! Just wanna help people use this awesome headset!!
Can you connect 2 Cardo Bolds in DMC mode with 4 sena's bluetooth?
Technically yes...I haven't tried this but give it a shot; should work. Have the 4 Sena units connect to each other like they normally would. Then, have 1 of the Sena units use Universal Intercom Pairing to pair with one of the Cardo Bolds (the Cardo will have to use Mobile Phone Pairing to pair correctly in this case, as the video desribes). Then, once that intercom between the Sena and Cardo is open, tap the Intercom button on the Packtalk one time. This activates the "DMC Bridge" feature, which should merge the Cardo DMC group with the Senas. Good luck and hope that makes sense!
hi, i have been trying to make my unit work but it wont listen to my commands, its a brand new packtalk bold, i dont know why it is so, i was hoping you could help, thank you very much
Nicolas Ramirez Amado Hey there. Have you checked out the video I did on Natural Voice Command? If not, do so, because that’s basically how you want to talk to this thing. No pausing or waiting for a beep, just say the command. Couple more things, make sure you are using the exact commands, and also make sure to talk at a “normal” volume. Sounds weird I know, but when I shout or talk elevated it won’t respond; talking normal, it works really well. Could this be the issue you think? Hope this helps a bit!!!
@@MotoGeekFreak I have just tried it that way and it doesn`t work either, I dont know what else to try
Nicolas Ramirez Amado Hmmm. This sounds stupid, but maybe try the other mic that comes with it? Wonder if something’s wrong with the mic perhaps? If that doesn’t do the trick it might be worth giving them a call to see what’s going on. Best of luck and hope that works!!
Hi there MotoGeek, I have a cardo smart set and tried pairing with my friends BT1000M headset it seems to connect for a second then my unit switches off completely, any suggestions? Regards Paul
Paul Simpson I’ve had this happen before...try doing a total reset on the other headset (the BT1000M in your case), this SHOULD fix it fingers crossed. Do universal pairing on your Cardo, and Mobile Phone Pairing Mode on the BT1000M to pair them... hope this works and helps!!
@@MotoGeekFreak Hi, i have the same problem. The only thing is on my other device (a cheap chineese bt-s2) there is no way to reset the device.. I have both tried the A channel and the B channel on my packtalk bold. Do you have any other suggestions?
Btw love your vids, because of your detailed video's I bought the Bold for both my girlfriend and I! :)
leon166pro Hmmm. Well on Packtalk Bold (and any Packtalk running over v4.0 software)its always gonna be the A Channel, then tapping the Mobile button once for universal pairing. BUT, if this isn’t working with the Chinese one then Dang!!! I’m kind of stumped, and you’re definitely doing Universal on Packtalk and Mobile on the Chinese one? Side note: glad to hear the vids are helpful!!! Other than this case, of course lol
@@MotoGeekFreak Ditto to what Leon166pro says. I have this same issue with the BT-S3 and no amount of powering it on and off will resolve it. They will connect for about 2 seconds and then the Packtalk will just shut itself down as if to say "Sorry cheap chinese com, you're not worthy, peace out!" I just gave up and bought another Packtalk. Thanks for your videos, they're better than the official Cardo tutorials.
Jody Zung 😂😂 that may indeed be the case!! Lol. I’m stumped as to why it wouldn’t work with the cheapy-one but seems like an issue that others have had as well with those things. Glad you found a proper solution 😜👌
THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU
Excellent video. thx !
Finally successfully paired my cardo packtalk bold with my dad's sena 30k using this method! But it keeps cutting out every few seconds... 😓 I'm trying to pair them the opposite way, but my cardo just isn't recognising the sena. I have it on Bluetooth mode and I'm using the same method to pair a mobile phone and my dad is trying to pair via bluetooth intercom. Are we missing something or is that not how you pair them the opposite way?
Hey, i have the Same Problem. Did you solve the problem?
Спасибо! Scalarider Packtalk и Sena SMH10 подключились легко и быстро.
please do a video on two sena 20s and 2 pact talks. is it possible to even do this?
Thanks for the suggestion and I will try to make a vid on this (probably a pretty common thing!). Until then; yes it is do-able and here's the way I'd recommend doing it:
**You'll be utilizing the "DMC Bridge" feature of Packtalk (see vid on that). This feature lets you bring Bluetooth headsets into your DMC/Mesh Packtalk group.
-Create a Group with your 2 Packtalks in DMC/Mesh Intercom Mode
-Switch Packtalk over to Bluetooth Intercom Mode, and Pair each Packtalk to one of the 20s headsets (so in your case, Packtalk "1" to 20s "1", and Packtalk "2" to 20s "2") exactly as this video describes.
-Switch back to DMC Intercom Mode, and activate "DMC Bridge" by tapping the Intercom button once. When you tab this button, it brings the Bluetooth headset that it's paired to (in this case the 20s) into the DMC conversation. Once each Packtalk has activated this DMC Bridge feature, all 4 headsets will be connected and talking. The 2 Packtalks will be connected to each other using Mesh (DMC), and each will be "bridging-in" a 20s using Bluetooth, simultaneously.
That's a long explanation, and almost makes is sound complicated, but its super easy and watching the "DMC Bridge" video I did will help a bunch. Hope that makes sense and good luck!
Just put a new one up, check it out... 2 Packtalks and 2 Sena (a 20s and a SMH10 but same method), hope it helps!
I don't know why Sena has to be paired with phone mode, even though Sena has a universal pairing feature, Cardo must fix this on the next firmware update
Iip Rifai It’s the way any brand of headset pairs to a different brand of headset (they all use the same method). If you look at a Sena user manual it’s states the same thing: “Put the Sena in Universal Pairing and the other headset in Mobile Phone pairing”. I completely agree though, there’s much room for improvement on this for sure.
@@MotoGeekFreak the problem pairing with phone is the distance is very short, I think less than 50m, perhaps Cardo should add "non cardo client intercom" which act to allow pairing from universal intercom mode, so the distance can be far
@@iipx I totally agree. Universal Intercom has terribly short range compared to "true intercom pairing". If somehow the different manufacturers could pair/communicate without using the Mobile Phone Pairing slot it would be a great step in the right direction. As it sits now (with all brands), ONE of them is treating it like a true intercom pairing, and the other is treating it like a phone pairing which is inherently short and affects the overall range of that pairing.
Wanting to get the packtalk bold slim. Wondering, is the process basically the same?
@ caro Pahvoth I gotchu! Check it out: ruclips.net/video/WX4RS_QutXs/видео.html
Same process and that vid is how to get it done. Hope it helps and good luck!
Considering getting one for testing, but can the Cardo bold connect to multiple Sena units like 20S and 30k at the same time? I ride with many around my area and most are on Sena such as myself with a 10S
So, couple things: Any one headset can only pair to 1 other headset of a different brand, BUT, yes, it's totally do-able. Checkout this vid I did on this, should help make sense of this: ruclips.net/video/We9oTBTq_ao/видео.html
Now, of course, Packtalk Bold with other Packtalks/Cardo Mesh headsets will be a whole different (and insanely better) ballgame, but until then, you could do this. You would also still have the "Natural Voice Command" ability of the Bold. Anyways, hope that helps!
I am trying to pair to the cardo from phone 2 on the sena. Phone 1 is connected to a Harley whim. My friend are riding with cardo units. I want to have communication to the bike as phone 1 and the cardo paired as phone 2. Have you had any luck with this.
george mayer If you aren’t paired to the Harley WHIM then you’re Sena and friends with Cardo could pair/talk. But, the WHIM from Harley is making your Sena think it’s on a phone call (uses the same Bluetooth profile), so even though you’re probably able to pair the Cardo to your Sena, you’re not going to be able to talk while your Sena is connected to the bike, because your Sena “thinks” it’s on a phone call- which takes ultimate priority. I hope that makes sense and helps out a bit!
What's the range like?
I have the Cardo unit, if I pair it to a Sena 20, will I need to push the intercom button everytime that I want to talk to them or is it always on like the Sena units that are paired together?
@CrispyBacon Once you push the button to activate intercom it will stay on until you one of you pushes the button to cancel it. So yeah, it will stay on if that's what you want, or you can push the button to open/close the intercom whenever you want. Hope that makes sense👍
Does the push to intercomm button function the same way when paired to other cardo or bluetooth units? Thankyou
Yes. If you have to use Packtalk in Bluetooth Intercom Mode (DMC Mode way better) then one click of the intercom button will get you rider "A", and double-clicking the intercom button will get you rider "B"
Unable to pair my bluetooth earphone using packtalk universal intercom pairing, but it works with sena universal intercom pairing, am I missing something?
(never thought of doing that...lol) Are the Packtalk and bluetooth earphone pairing to each other? If so, you SHOULD be able to click the Intercom button on Packtalk to activate the "intercom" session. Takes a few seconds sometimes but should work. If not, and assuming that the Packtalk/bluetooth earphone are pairing to each other, try turning both of them off, then back on...wait for Packtalk to say "Rider A connected", then tap the Intercom button to try and connect. Hope that helps!
@@MotoGeekFreak yeah...it works bro, turning paired device off and on again ...it is now connected, thanks!
@@iipx NICE!! I have to do that when pairing to a Sena 20s...(no idea why)...good to hear that it worked!
This is my question. Scenario: we have an older guy who rides with us and he regularly drives the support vehicle along side on long trips. He should talk with us. How do we get him on the network without his helmet on in the truck? If he had a Bluetooth stereo in his new truck could he connect? Would he need a Bluetooth headset? Or can we rig up a custom made cardo, over the head, headset with mic to stay in touch. Thanks for all you do!
Can each person still be connected to their phone at the same time?????
@Drew Yager In this video, the Packtalk would yes still be connected to your phone because it's the one using it's "Universal Intercom" pairing; the OTHER headset is using "Mobile Phone" pairing to make this connection happen (the way ALL cross-brand pairing is achieved...see my vid on Golden Rules of Univiersal Intercom for more info on this) so if the OTHER headset can is capable of pairing to 2 Mobile phones then yes; if it can only handle 1 Mobile Phone pairing, then no, because it would already be taken by the Packtalk for intercom. Hope that makes sense!
Info for anybody trying to link Cardo Freecom 1+ and Sena 20s..
I was able to pair them successfully but still could not get sound connection from my gfs helmet to mine I was getting very frustrated as I knew they had paired successfully because each one says so. Cardo paired very quickly in gateway mode and a few seconds after sena paired up in phone pairing mode… so still no sound connection. I kept trying many times thinking maybe they were getting disconnected somehow someway… so the last time I paired once more, after hearing paired successfully from both headsets I then pressed the phone button on the sena quickly and boom I could hear myself scratching the other mic… after a minute or two the connection cut out again… Devastation sets in… 😔 I’m glad I didn’t text my gf that I figured it out as I was just about ready to. Lol So once more I paired successfully, then just tapped the phone button on sena which is the back button THEN I pressed the intercom button on the Cardo which looks like a sideways WiFi symbol SUCCESS!!! PERMANENT SOLID CONNECTION.
FYI if the Cardo rider presses his intercom button again it will disconnect connection but can be turned back on by pressing once more I assume because the Cardo was the “leader” and sena connected in phone pairing mode which is kind of the hack. I’m not trying it the other way around as this seems to work now. Hope this helps anybody who was cussing up a storm like I was. 😂
Do not working! Trying to pairing same things, it's connecting but there is no sound. Try to reset headsets and it's the same result. Wtf?
All these cross link videos are sooooooo confusing!
Hey Chris! What are you referring to on this? I’m down to make some changes to make it easier for sure...let me know! Thanks!
Cardos drop SENA after 20 seconds!
What's the range if you do this?
Yes please tell us the range between Cardo and Sena please?