How Disney Decimated Lion King
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- Lion King 2019 was the worst animated film ever made. How is it also the highest grossing? Let's jump into an hour long analysis video that explains why in excruciating detail. Together we're untangle the entrenched web of terrible filmmaking. When people say "It's unfair to compare it to the original" we'll stubbornly snuff our fingers into our ear holes.
The circle of life scene is garbage juice and the songs are recreated without any love. Simba is a little brat, Nala is a big nag, Rafaki should have been a chimp, Mufasa looks like a shy football, Timon and Pumbaa... Actually I quite like Seth Rogen and Billy Eichner.... But that's the only thing I like!
I like Childish Gambino (Donald Glover), I'm partial to Beyonce and of course I have my respect for Hans Zimmer and for Disney in 90s. But I hate everything about the way they've been used to hijack our childhood nostalgia, bottle it and sell it to us.
Jon Favreau was hired to direct the remake of the classic animated Lion King 1994. He's the guy that directed Chef. Have you seen Chef? I did. It just made me hungry. He also directed The Jungle Book (2015). Why Disney keep remaking their films into live action we'll never know. Oh wait I do know and I explain why in this video.
They remade Cinderalla, Aladdin, Mulan, Dumbo, 101 Dalmatians, The Goofy Movie, Lilo and Stitch, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, The Black Cauldron, King Arthur and some other ones too on the list... Loads and loads of them. When is this going to stop? Do we all want to revert back to our childhoods to when life was easy? Is that what it is?!
This video took over six months to finish, it is sponsored by. no one. It was written by Max Bardsley and Samuel Jones. With 'Alternative Circle Of Life' audio by Ollie McAuley.
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I hate when people say that something is good because its realistic.
This remake is a prime example of that mostly because talking and singing animals have nothing to do with being realistic!
Like first person shooter video games
looks a lot better tho, apart from the colour pallet
It's like when somebody says a video game is good because the graphics are pretty.
ChasmaHyena one is animation and one is cgi. You’re comparing apples to oranges
Saw the remake in theatres with my kids. At the final battle, when Simba throws Scar off the cliff, my 5-year-old yells out "Was that the bad lion?!" I couldn't tell them apart either.
They should've done test screenings with actual children
They should've done test screenings with actual children
racist
@@Brieftrager_Pat who? And why? 😅
@@FiveOClockTea not being able to tell the lions apart. Dreadful language that should not be allowed on any kind of website where the innocent children may become desensitised to such filth.
Remaking a 2D movie to "live action" is the equivalent of making a photographic remake of the Starry Night.
Underrated comment.
I would only ever like these remakes if they bring a substantial contribution to the table.
Unfortunately, this hasn't really happened yet
Spot on.
2D? this is also 2D. you mean cartoon.
@@39abc93 3D cgi models
What bothered me the most is that they called it "live action remake" when it's 100% cgi
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akhtually 99.9999999999 % cgi xD
@@AlinaAniretake did you hear that they're doing a live-action Moana remake? If that's the case, I demand a cars live-action remake
Because Disney knew the internet would explode in anger if they straight up announced a Lion King CGI remake. I remember back when there were rumors of a “live action remake” most people assumed it would mean a live action version with real life actors. Disney is not dumb, they know this is a CGI animated movie but by the time the cat was out of the bag, the public was parroting the “life action version” bs Disney put out there.
@@pony7653 Disney has turned into a joke releasing trash after trash
They literally could’ve just filmed the broadway musical with a solid budget and it would’ve been a million times better
There's even a 360 video of Circle of Life on RUclips. If they could sell the whole play for VR that would definitely make money, specially with theaters closed right now.
Hear hear!
I would pay good money to watch this, not gonna lie
exactly, if they did that i’d totally buy it as a huge fan of the lion king, i even decided to give the live action lion king a chance and my god, it’s downright horrible, not only do they not emote even though animals can emote, not as much as the actual old animation could but they still can, but even the lines that used to have such feeling behind them mean nothing in this live action movie, in the scene where mufasa is grasping onto the cliff and asked for scars help he used to have a ton of feeling and say “Scar....Brother...Help Me!” with an actual look of fear, in the live action one he just says “scar help me” with no emphasis at all and nothing but a look of meh on his face.
it downright sucks, because i honestly wanted to love this live action movie, as somebody who still loves the original so much, i watched it endlessly as a kid to the point back then i could’ve told you everything about that movie, legit everything, i wanted my fav movie to come back and be enjoyed by a new group of people, but honestly they could’ve just rereleased the old movie in theaters for a couple nights and made just as much, like literally, they could’ve just done that and boom, same amount they made back then.
This, this is the comment.
I'm still so offended by the "Can you feel the love tonight" montage, set at daytime...
RIGHT??
Coming from a guy who saw the movie through CinemaSins and Nostalgia Critic’s video, I try to forget the remake as much as possible since the CYFtLT scene just disgustingly underwhelming by being set in the atmosphere-free daytime!
“Can you feel the love tonight” more like “Can you feel the love in the afternoon”
SO DUMB...
maybe in The Little Mermaid "Under The Sea" will be filmed on the beach
I really miss that part when in the original Rafiki had his staff all the time, but when Mufasa died and Simba disappeared he put it down, and when he learns about Simba being alive he grabs it again.
there was so much emotion in the original, Rafiki's despair when he thinks Simba is dead breaks my fuckin heart every time
It symbolizes something every time he has the stick, I think it means his hope 😔
so good
@@NGRevenant And that's what makes Rafiki's sheer elation to discover that Simba is alive all the more genuine and cathartic.
They're such small details, but their inclusion or lack thereof is what really separates a piece of art made by people who can think and feel from a soulless simulacrum. The soulless Disney Corporation's live-action remakes are the smile of a sociopath.
Well now along came; he shall not be named" and all we wanted was... It had to look real... For real though 😩
The rest of my family praised this atrocity for being “real”, all except for my little girl, who was supposed to be in love with it. She fell asleep 10 minutes in. I showed her the animated version later and she almost wetted herself because she refused to miss even a second of it going to pee. She was 4. Bless her…
If she wanted to pee, why not pause the movie and go to the bathroom, unless she was watching at the theatre.
@@sebastiengendron6427 believe me. I did suggest, but she was deeply engrossed in it she started crying when I paused it.
My family really likes this remake too and I absolutely do not get it, my 7 year old cousin said that she didnt like the 1994 version but she liked the 2019 one
@@mr.mcnuggies art is subjective. Some like it. Some don’t. I’m not gonna tell my family which one to like, and they sure as hell can’t do the same to me and tell me to like this 2019 garbage
this just shows that companies dont care about the children anymore, they just want their parents’ money
Disney isn't ruining our childhoods. It's ruining the childhoods of _today's_ children.
Thats, thats worse. I mean my parents make sure I see good movies and not just watch every movie they make. I've never seen the emojii movie. I have nk idea what its about but from what I've seen it looks awful
At least the original still exists, so if you're a responsible parent you can show them that instead.
Not at all, my son is 5 & has never seen this shit! He’s seen the original & loves it! 😂
Holy shit, that's WORSE
Yeah, kids will learn bad teachings. Such as this one...
“When a nervous unhealthy-minded take over the throne we must all stay here sitting around with doing nothing to wait Prince Charming to save us.”
The worst part is that animals can actually show emotion through their faces. Disney just didn’t animate it.
Yeah, that bothered me a lot too! The animals all looked so realistic, but they didn't EMOTE in the slightest. They're faces were as animated as plastic toys and it meant all the emotion had to be carried solely by the voice acting and music and it just... Wasn't.
1:37-2:43 And speaking of the worst; this is an amazing description on Modern Disney since in the infamous (no matter how superior it may look to 2020) late 2010s, this is why The Walt Disney Company became worse than ever before.
Remember Peter Jackson's King Kong. Say what you want about the rest of the film but they at least understood that in order to make us care for kong he has to show emotions regardless of the fact that he is a giant ape.
You know what the real depressing part of that is....Disney actually made a CGI lion that actually could emote look at Asland from Narnia!!!!!!!
Teddybear Killer Oh shiz you right! Hahahahaha CoN. They even animated his brows moving lol like how did their animation devolve so much!
THEY LITERALLY MADE LIONS WITH EXPRESSIONS YEARS AGO WITH NARNIA
The feeling when a clearly CGI Aslan with a blurr effect instead of fur has more emotion and humanity in him than this piece of multi million dollar techdemo.XD
Or like even Jungle Book 2016... Made by the same team 🤦🏽
Not perfect, but definitely a bit better
Ikr?!
"Butt muh realtism! Its reeealistic, taht meens its gud! U jus a h8tr! Y u gotta b soooooo h8tn on a cids movee?" - Disnoids
@@DaMaster012 Shouldn't people that love Disney hate this film the most? Disney built their reputation on detailed character animation and gorgeous visuals.
Sleeping Beauty and Snow White will be gorgeous for the rest of time. This will be dated and gross in five years.
These Disney remakes are the perfect embodyment of the Jurrasic Park quote: "They were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
And pray tell, why shouldn't they? I can give you 1.6 billion reasons why Disney doesn't care about the quality of this movie. This wasn't a work of art, it was a "consume and move on" product that did exactly what it was supposed to do.
Don't think for a second Disney has forgotten how to make good movies... They just don't want to anymore
But that’s a problem and it needs to either be fixed of stopped.
@@livelybubbs6242 I wholeheartedly agree. But fighting a cynical corporation with an army of superfans is easier said than done. I live together with a bunch of Disney drones and let me tell you, they are not watching a 30 minute video essay on why the products they enjoy are soulless cash grabs (and just to be clear, I absolutely hate modern Disney movies. And not just the remakes). We're all just preaching to the choir, and that's a sad truth. They've won and everyone knows it...
@AV dE What about fighting them with an animated megalomaniacal madman who's just snapped at the corporate world? Probably wouldn't help anymore than superfan criticism, but it's an idea.
This movie wasn't a movie, it was a really long tech demo
That still couldn't get animal movement right
I actually thought just that.XD
"Why did they not just do a 10 min short with some "missing scene" of Scar and Mufasa as cubs or something?"
It was a cash cow
That Simba’s hair traveling scene was so pretentious. They could animate a dung bettle and a piece of turd, but not emotion?
Interestingly, Jon Favreau’s currently working on a documentary about dinosaurs called Prehistoric Planet.
Would the Lion Kong Remake even be a coherent movie if the viewer didn’t have the context from watching the original first?
We'll find out when the people seeing it as kids grow up. I really can't see it standing the test of time... but I guess that's not the point of anything released during the blockbuster movie industry's current soulless pure-cashgrab phase.
I hope by then I won't be the only one who can't even get through most MCU movies.
That's actually a good question; however it's one that could be asked of most of the recent remakes and reboots out there. We live in weird times where a lot of stuff is known only by name recognition , by a generation that hasn't even seen the source material. That's who much of this stuff is being made for, and the strategy seems to be a profitable one.
People who remember how better the originals were compared to their generic copies can rail all they want, but these remakes are far surpassing their source material at the box office, even though people are only lukewarm about them.
It’s a shot for shot line for line remake for 90% of it so if the original is then the remake must be. The more relevant question is how much joy, wonder and excitement does it inspire as a stand alone product. The animation will gracefully age for decades where as CGI ages quicker. Comparing the music is like listening to a great band or CD and then listening to “shopping mall” rip off or “karaoke classics disc 15”.
What will Disney do when they have made live version of their whole catalogue? they already did most of the major ones people cared about. Why not make a good version of King Arthur or a Merlin epic? Do something that has rarely been done like Beowulf, Greek mythology,
Only one I actually wanted to see is Mulan and that looks awful I loved the Chinese version of that film came out 2001 I think as a reaction to the Disney version so the need for a live action film was already pretty marginal but would have liked to see a Kung fu version with the songs in it because “make a man out of you” is actually a good song for that story. But it’s 2020 so Mulan will win “because strong independent woman”
I highly doubt it I know people that watched that were super confused because they haven’t seen the original in a long time and yah you miss a lot hell I had a lot of issues with the film because I have trouble hearing and normally use cc or the visuals to help me but without that I got lost many times when I missed a line and eventually gave up and sat on my phone
@@deanmottershead9208 Niki Caro, the director of ‘Mulan 2020’, also directed ‘Whale Rider’, which was about a girl who became chieftain of her Maori clan despite the line being strictly patriarchal.
It wasn’t really StRoNg InDePeNdAnT wOmAn as much as Pai (short for “Paikea”) being literally the most qualified person for the role due to a.) her lineage, and b.) her natural leadership skills.
It (and perhaps the book from the 80’s in which it is based on) was really ahead of it’s time.
One thing that really bothers me is how realistic means desaturated. Life is full of beautiful color and they took that all out. If doesn't have to be cartoonishly saturated but bring it up a bit the movie was so dead looking.
Africa is actually more colorful in real life than this “realistic” movie. They added more life by sucking the life out of it. Somehow they did it.
Totally! Nature can be so very colourful, you don't have to make everything greyish and grim to make it 'realistic' (whatever that means... I like that films can be stylized). Even BBC Earth documentaries have more colour than this. And even in real life films it's kinda common to saturate and play with your colours to empathize the atmosphere (or to create one, look at Suspiria, Fire Walk With Me or Climax).
All movies are like that now... They all have to be desaturated, blue, and dreary-looking.
@@canvas_125 not for jon, for him Africa = dirt
@@CoryTheRaven it's because if anyone adds colours the critics have a field day calling it "campy." Like people have expressed here, it makes no sense to remove the colour out of life, even if it does make your marketing campaign easier
is it my imagination or do the voices sound completely disjointed? in the original film i BELIEVE i'm hearing the animals talking, whereas in the new one my brain refuses to accept it as anything other than a clearly separate audio track. perhaps that's what happens when you strive to animate hyper-realistic animals and making them FUCKING TALK
Definitely not just you, when you watch a National Geographic documentary you don't expect lions and warthogs to start fucking talking, let alone start to sing. It's so distressing to watch this movie bruh I will never understand why disney thought people would like this remake
omg you put it into words
It's because the mouths barely move. One of Favreau's "realism" changes, but when the mouths don't move to match the words, we can tell it's a separate track.
yeah because it's a cartoon, once you believe a cartoon literally anything can happen and it'll be ok because it's a CARTOON! when they make a movie trying to be a documentary, so realistic to the point where they remove Rafiki's stick, and then the lions FUCKING SING MUSICAL NUMBERS, yeah its gonna be weird.
No it's completely on the movie. In Narnia when Aslan talks you believe it. When he's sad when he's happy you know. He's a realistic lion that talks just fine. It can be done it's just that Favrou sucks.
I was so disappointed that Scar’s song was cut that I practically shouted out in the cinema ‘what was that!’
Nazi symbolism with real hyenas could you imagine? Real hyenas can’t March like nazi soldiers so I would look awful!! In my opinion it’s the best song in the film & Though I hate they left it out, I’m glad they didn’t butcher it
ZaraBee28 ohhh well in that way you do have a point
ZaraBee28 they could have changed the walking though, in my opinion they cut it just to size down the movie/downgrade on the more animating. It could have been effective but they chose to take it out.
@@zarabee2880 they couldve had the song but fixed the damn hyena march. The couldve done something anything
@@zarabee2880 Like they didn't change the choreography in the other songs... Goose stepping hyenas and a hula dancing meerkat, just a couple of reasons the 90s were better regarding relations and "appropriation". They were seen as references and helped create atmosphere and character. (Timon's hula was a blatant parody of commercialized hula, not actual hula, and every other 90s kid I knew who had seen actual hula from PBS and Discovery knew it was different smh. Then Lilo and Stitch fixed it all up XD )
The animated version is just so much more beautiful to look at.
Which is why to consider the original version’s animation the greatest Wild be an understatement, but as for the remake’s on the other hand, it couldn’t even be marvellous in its dreams!
I don't know where you've seen talking animals, but they are both animated.
I also hate how they act like muted tones is necessarily not realistic. I’ve seen more saturated sunrises and sunsets in real life. It’s a creative decision. Don’t remove the magic. Bring the magic to life or just make a different film.
Yup.
Heck, even the 1st CRASH BANDICOOT is more beautiful to look at IMO.
The issue is many adults see animation as “childish” and live-action as somehow being “mature”
EXACTLY OH MY FUCKING GOD THIS COMMENT IS EVERYTHING TO ME
But this isn’t even ‘live-action’.
Literally *90%* of the movie was computer-graphics.
The only real ‘live-action’ shot was the tree in the beginning sunrise-part, and that’s it.
yes! I HATE THAT NOTION!
Wait till they find out about Avatar the last airbender
Average Jo
It’s getting a live action remake tho...
replacing the fruit with dead roots is upsetting... especially since a 10 second google search shows africa has an abundance of fruit with red juice. They might not be well known by western audiences that don't have these fruits in their grocery, but its better than roots???
how tf am I here a year later? again. ...
🙂
I mean Americans thought they know better than the rest of the world, yet knows less wasn't exactly a new thing.
It’s such an odd choice to not include since it breaks the sun/ circle of life symbolism
@@joshuas22 the symbolism being the round shape that matches the sun i assume?
When they sing “can you feel the love tonight” is not even at night... Where’s the realism??!!!!!
Oh, it's real. *I T S T I L L T A K E S P L A C E O N D A Y T I M E*
Yeah, plus there was no action or feeling I Be Prepared.😠
@@darkstarmoonshadow be prepared was just scar jumping on rocks.
I found out recently that The Lion King 2019 is the only version of The Lion King that my 10 year old cousin is familiar with. That information is absolutely haunting to me.
So your cousin did not watch the original Lion King in 10 years of his life?
Show him the 1994 original. NOW! There’s no denying that we’ve all been introduced to at least one timeless IP through an inferior version. My introduction to Speed Racer was the inferior Fred Wolf series, and many younger Thomas The Tank Engine fans grew up on the boring badly-written mid-late 2000s seasons. But at the same time, the superior originals are still there for us to discover and embrace eventually! The original 1994 Lion King is ESPECIALLY easy to access so there is NO REASON WHATSOEVER to watch the 2019 version!
Fix him
Did you show him the original tho?
When my son was born in 2019, the first movie we all watched together was the original Lion King. It was a very influential movie when I was a child, and I want my son to experience the old Disney magic, not this soulless, empty garbage cash grab.
Just a nitpick, but Nala's line "He's holding back, he's hiding - but what I can't decide." doesn't even make sense in the remake. In the original, that line is there because Simba blames himself for Mufasa's death, and it's assumed that no one in the pride knows the truth of what happened, so that's part of Simba's internal conflict that Nala is not privy to. BUT IN THE REMAKE SHE SAYS THEY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. So, wtf else could she be confused about? Just another reason why none of the individual parts of the remake work together as a whole.
Na g g y nAl a
That was the exact point I stopped watching and turned it off. The sheer level of narrative disconnect made me so filled with seething rage, my anger spread across the globe and began mutating a virus in a Chinese lab....
Alondro77 so YOU'RE to blame for Covid!
@@blissfulsoul5056 Technically, Disney is to blame.
Dennis Johansen ,oooh
Never in my entire life have I felt so personally offended by a movie, I got dragged along to see this by my mom/grandma and they both loved it, my grandma even said she liked it better than the original. I said it was nothing to the original and my grandma said "yea but that one was more of a cartoon"
As an animator my soul died a bit at that
Make sure that when you go to unplug her life support you remind her of this moment.
Sadly a lot of old people dismiss things just because they're cartoony
Disney cut off 10% of the fat, but that 10% made up 90% of the flavor
Damn
cant say it any better
Clearly you’re one of the few people that knows the actual definition of “Decimated”. Thank you for that.
The Lion King 2019 is such a disrespect to traditional Handdrawn Animation. All the subtlety, all the exaggeration, expression are strengths of handdrawn animation.
“2019”
In this case, more like “💩019”, amirite? XD
That's because most Americans don't like 2D animation anymore. 3D animation has basically killed it in the US. But other countries still use 2D animation
I agree it does not get the respect it deserves, but that is modern Hollywood for you no respect for anything.
Litten Fire Im American and I perfer 2D over 3D
You don't know somebody on deviantart named ToonEGuy by chance?
We're so used to this, 2D, 3D, CGI and hybrid mixes. Try to put yourself back in the Thirties, and you see "Snow White" for the first time. It is astounding. It still is. It has some of the most frightening sequences in animation. And some of the funniest. And songs that hold up. And take time to watch the animation technically. Watch the Silly Song sequence. The dwarves are individuals. Their clothing moves. They have shadows. And I understand that Grumpy is playing the correct keys on the organ.
And it was made over eighty years ago. By hand. Painted with brushes.
Just astounding.
Yeah Snow White is still a marvel in how well it's animation holds up. The scene when the magic mirror appears still perplexes me as it has this otherworldly appearance that looks almost 3D yet fully 2D. I'm able to watch this 80+ year old film on a dang telephone yet this scene itself looks like the real magic. Just amazing.
gosh, yes, I find it funny, but animation holds up much more than live actions, because like me, I'm from 2000, and yet in my childhood I watched a lot of animations from the 40s, 50s, etc, and they were very popular even then, I didn't see them as old movies, but talking about live actions in my childhood, it was probably mainly from the 80s and 90s, older than this would be more obviously old
To be honest, the mix between 2d and 3d can look gorgeous if did well (guilty gear xrd and dragon ball fighterZ are prove of that). But i miss the 2d cell animations, they had a lot of expressiveness and the draw nature made the possibility for some crazy shit that cgi can barely do.
@Larry Brennan you're absolutely right. I've been studying a bit of animation recently so my respect for these early disney animated movies have increased 10 fold. I mean the stuff they did in terms of creativity and technical ability is just mind boggling. They had extremely capable art directors and animators, who were masters of their trade. Every minute decision was intentional and all that added up to something which was sublime.
@@Canalbiruta I really wish the industry continued with that blend of hand-drawn characters with many 3D CGi backgrounds with hand-painted textures made by proper background artists (Deep Canvas) a la Treasure Planet, Tarzan, The Prince of Egypt. Though CG character faces are finally to the point where they're emoting without any weird uncanniness, I still find hand-drawn characters more expressive and attractive. They can make unique little expressions that are personal to the animator without having to worry if their muscular rigging is up to the task. They can break model when it's convenient for some good ol' squash and stretch for larger than life movement. And the limited palette for their cel shading makes the characters pop against a fully shaded background.
What John didn't understand was that the "ritual" Rafiki does with Simba is just him checking if the Baby is healthy and all his senses work correctly. Just re-watch the clip and you'll understand what he's doing. Simba reacts to the sound of the stick etc..
That’s what it was?! Now that I look at it, you’re right! That’s a genius move from the original directors
he also tested Simba's motor skills by trying to get him to play with the hanging fruit on the staff
Honestly though, despite how everyone at least praises the CGI, or how the director bragged this film is gonna change everything, I really can't see how Lion King is better than Jungle Book.
In fact, I think Jungle Book has better effects, not only does the animals look real AND have actual human emotions in a realistic way, but the animals in Jungle Book have to interact with a real actor.
That's because it's not. And I'm a guy who thought The Jungle Book was an absolute mess. Lion King did better than Jungle Book because it was a more well known property to modern audiences
@@TheNMan64 It had a messy script and the lead actor was terrible, yes. But the visuals were pretty good.
And well, at least Jungle Book kind of added more into the story from the original book, like the "jungle law" and all that. TLK2019 is just the same story with no changes
Jungle Book was way better to me. I definitely found it more interesting to look at
@@geministrial950 Yes, but they didn't really do anything with the law of the jungle thing other than making an homage to it. In the books it was used to flesh out the world-building and how the creatures of the jungle live in harmony and how they viewed humans. In the live-action remake it was just mentioned few times but never delved into. That's the problem with that movie; it doesn't make it clear what kind of story it is or whose vision it's following. It also has tonal problems.
It just makes me so sad. The amount of joy they could be bringing to the world, lost to greed
The Lion King is plagiarism. Ripped off of Jungle Emperor AKA Kimba the White Lion. Greed created Lion King.
@Blueberry Pitbull ruclips.net/video/G5B1mIfQuo4/видео.html Do your research before making misinformed claims. You only need to watch the first 5-10 minutes for a lot of the evidence to be debunked.
Blueberry Pitbull Nope. Lion King is not a rip off. Don’t spread misinformation. Do your research first. Look at YourMovieSucks video on the subject.
we have to fight
@@blueberrypitbull87 No.
This movie doesn't even look realistic. The animals don't move like animals, they move like theme park animatronics.
FINALLY!!! someone that notices that! Have you seen the pangolin at the credits of the jungle book? I'm 200% sure a pangolin does not move that way and *I have even seen a pangolin in my life* it just feels.....wrong.
Liar
u kidding me they had a boar calf as a baby pumba (Warthog) this one triggered me so match
There's too many frames per second. The motion capture capability of the 'camera' is stronger than that of our eyes. Our eyes can tell the difference between colour changing (which is all that 'motion' on a screen is) and an object moving. That's why motion blur needs to be added to animation and shouldn't be excluded from live action. But because of the higher frames per second of recordings, images are becoming clearer and motion blur is disappearing. Goodbye video realism, hello photo realism.
It is CGI so what did you expect
Omg that sacrafacial baby death ritual was JUST like midsommer such a good edit with the music
19:54 is the time stamp, for those who are interested.
Yeah, quite telling, how that music change and the lack of emotion transformed that scene so quickly :D
There’s literally concept art that artists made for the lion king 2019 and it looks amazing. It’s much more colorful and the character designs look much more expressive and look like the original characters. And the backgrounds are way more colorful and look so much more interesting.
What killed me the first time I watched the trailer for Lion King 2019 was the lack of colour. The luscious greens, brilliant azure skies, sand brown manes, Scar’s brilliant sheer black mane. It was all gone. Washed out and faded and I swear I felt a piece of my heart shatter when I saw that.
Jesus that one piece of Scar concept made me sad. It's all this realistic hairs and stuff but he's got eyebrows and an actual scowling expression. Jesus, this could have been good.
We were robbed of what Scar could have been
It would still be the same recycled story
@@squeen666 the only thing they can do to change it is to tell the original Hamlet , even that isn't new
I think the most important issue with these remakes is the lack of expression. One of the oldest lessons in animation is exaggeration of movement to create expressive characters. Realistic looking characters cannot emote enough? What we are left with is boring characters with stone faces and no emotion.
Yeah.. he explains it thoroughly in the video.....
And then you have scenes with realistic looking animals doing things that the real animals wouldn't do which puts it in its own uncanny valley. Aslan in The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe managed to look realistic and still be emotive and that came out 15 years ago.
Nathan Parkhurst Disney is the one who came up with the 12 principles of animation. They set the standard by which almost all animation follows today. Look at the bouncing ball animation tutorial with and without squash and stretch. The ball without squash and stretch is the 2019 remake and the one with it is the original. Sure the ball looks fine without the squash and stretch but it looses all character, meaning, and expression without those characteristics.
When you think about it, it's ironic, because one of the people who brought exaggeration in his animation was Walt Disney himself. I don't remember where I saw it, but he told his animators to be more "realistic", and by that he meant that they exaggerate the expressions and movements as much as possible.
Personally, I've seen real documentaries of real animals that emote more than these do in this movie.
"We have no obligation to make Art. We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make a statement, but to make money." - Michael Eisner, Disney. Just dropping this here.
"But to make money, it is often important to make history, to make art, or to make some significant statement"
Just dropping THIS here
I don't know how much this line works in this context given that Lion King was made during Eisner's time whilst this remake has been made after he's gone.
The full quote can be interesting to look at though, especially when contrasting to Iger's time, especially given that he's stepping down.
@@lonelyrooster he actually said 'to make money we must always make entertaining movies. I feel the sad thing behind that quote is that the disney company drive is no longer to push the art of animation. If you look into some of the old table reads and discussions for the older disney films, they discuss art and interpretation - they genuinely don't care about the money, they care about creating something magical. The money comes because they have. Now disney is in it for the money - and honestly, I feel people keep getting duped because they think the company believes in something they no longer do.
@@gota7738 While there's a lot to appreciate and admire about 90s Disney, it should be noted that Iger's practices have some roots back to the Eisner era, yes that includes acquisitions and franchises. Iger was in fact Eisner's right hand man and was there to witness Eisner's rise and fall. He was there to see what worked and what didn't...financially. The corporate shakeup that Roy Disney started to oust Eisner ended up with someone who was a more competent version of him. Iger is essentially Eisner without Eisner's ego or his failings. He merely magnified what Eisner started and made them his focus. What Iger brought to the table on his own is his almost superhuman skill for negotiating. Combine that with clear focus on acquisitions and franchises, and you have an explosive astronomic growth that turned Disney into its present state. Eisner's quote about making history vs making money is very much Iger's guiding principle, just with Iger's own spin on it. If anything Iger is a perfect crystallization of what Eisner had envisioned all those years ago. Eisner Disney is a cynic who wears the mask of sincerity. But with Iger, that cynic has subtly taken off his mask and nobody is any wiser for it.
careful your lindsay ellis is showing
That "long live the king" scene still terrifies me at age 43.
Still is chilling.
Jeremy Irons' voice acting is brilliant.
That's a freaky scene, but what scares me more is when Scar just calmly says "kill him" as Simba runs away afterwards. Absolutely heartless.
The way scars voice actor says it was just amazing and him calming just saying to kill him kill simba no thought no fear just murder him plus he couldn't kill him since they probably would have noticed something was up with scar when he returned to give the news
The whole original stampede sequence is a masterpiece of film making. When i was 3 yo i ran out crying cuz it felt like a murder, years later during a rerun on cinemas i wasn't just tense, i was as shocked as simba, even though i knew what was comming, and even when the 2019 version came, i got to watch the original (no way i would spend any money to watch that shit of a remake) and was still gut wrenched by the moment simba's face blackened with the shadow of the stampede comming cuz i already new what was comming. The fact they build Simba and Mufasa relationship as father and son so well before just makes the whole sequence a nightmare to watch, cuz you know what's gonns happen.
The sad thing is that there is a beautiful example for a pretty realistic lion who can show emotion: Aslan
Yet this dumpster fire is about as expressive as Bella Swan
The only good thing to come from this awful remake is that we all remembered how great Aslan is 😁
Yeah wow you’re right, Aslan had so much expression and emotion! I actually just re watched the lion the witch and the wardrobe and some of his “expressions” made me tear up.
I was LITERALLY thinking about this a few days ago.
Or Emma Watson in Beauty and The Beast. Who needs emotion in a romance?
@@pidgedidge I thought you were making a joke about Emma Watson being computer generated.
Lmao the “baby death ritual” was HYSTERICAL 😂
Honestly. It actually did feel like Midsommar.
It was so funny and it felt like it could of actually fit, like that’s just the scene
I laughed out so loud too
honestly, it was the funnier than all of the live action lion king Pumba and Timon scenes that were supposed to be funny
I remember reading some comments when the trailers for these remakes and they would say “at last a live action version so I can finally watch this movie”. It’s like adults are embarrassed for liking animation and that I find insulting. It’s like saying “who needs paintings because now we’ve got photographs”.
Quite sad that Disney of all companies are the ones pushing this mindset.
Tbh realism is kinda boring. Don't get me wrong, objectively realistic art and media are very well crafted and it has puts so much effort I can't help but respect it. But in my opinion, a stylistic choice feels more personal, like you know this artist's way of thinking and their personality shines through within the brush strokes, their passion of their colorful views, and their eccentric way of telling the world filled with wonder. I wanna see art and media as way to escape from reality, like an experience that you can only get from an artist's hand rather than the lens of a camera. Animation encapsulates the idea of immersion, the window to a different world yet we can see it. Physics doesn't matter and if Anatomy can bend beyond its limits, I don't care.
@@mythoughtsexactly2145 The modern film industry had pretty much forgotten that cinema is first and foremost about escapism. Musicals were at their most popular during WWII for a reason also speaking as an average individual I'd rather do pretty anything else but tune into anything that wishes to remind me of what my day good or bad was like.
Here's an awesome video essay regarding the subject: ruclips.net/video/YxXIuVuttdg/видео.html.
A fantastic quote from philosopher CS Lewis from the video: "Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
My mom has always been this way, and I don't understand. She absolutely REFUSES to watch anything animated. "What is this cartoon shit?" is all she will say before changing it, no matter what it is. I know of a number of anime that she would fall in love with, but she will not budge that cartoons are for children and anything animated is not mature enough for her.
31:15 Note how the real life baby cub has more pronounced "baby" features than the CGI one - bigger eyes, bigger forehead, a gaze that isn't quite focused yet. Back in the day, it was the artists' goal to study these features and exaggerate them. Now they're actually toning down real life.
I love how they justify replacing the round fruit with roots by saying it’s not realistic, yet they chose to keep the South American leafcutter ants in the movie, and even gave them an additional scene.
It's not realistic for all the prey animals to bow to a predator either.
@@DunmoresMovieMania or for a bush piglet to represent a baby warthog.
It’s highly reminiscent of the infamy of Mulan (Karen version) where Modern Disney whined that they weren’t going to add Mushu in it because it wouldn’t be realistic to put in a stylized talking dragon (the Disney Renaissance version of Mulan nailed that very well) yet they decided to give their sexist titular “protagonist” chi(-chi) powers.
@@kieranstark7213 dont forget the Phoenix and the shapeshifter
@@randommouse178 It’s been a long time since I heard of it. Can you send me a link to it plz?
I forgot how much this movie felt like an old man coming up to you and punching you in the heart while screaming "HEY YOU REMEMBER THIS?!"
I hated how when Disney was doing adds for this movie and everyone kept saying it’s “live action” like no it’s not!! It’s literally a animated film still. The animation in the jungle book 2016 was way better bc the animals actually had way more expressions and the animation in the lion king 2019 is so lifeless and bland looking. Every background looks so ugly to look at and the environment looked nothing like how Africa actually looks, and Africa is a beautiful place but this movie made it look like a wasteland.
Jungle Book is also better because the characters were interacting with each other, same with Chronicles of Narnia,
The Lion King 2019 didn't have the same energy, and that was hard to tell the lions from each other, and i still don't understand, why they need to even do the remakes of movies who worked perfectly as animations,
while TLK 2019 is also animated, the animations were poor, it feels like a supposed 'realistic' game when the characters shows the same expressions, from the beginning, to the end.
The *colors*... did no one understand good lighting and vibrant scenes in nature? It just felt so.. boring.. I think that’s entirely the fault of the directors creative vision. I wonder what his arguments were if people asked why Africa looked so unappealing
((Especially during Can You Feel The Love.. the fact that it was in the middle of the _day_ really irks me))
Id rather it be called live action than be considered animated. This movie is a disgrace to animation. 'Highest animated box office' fuck off
Scar in Lion King 1994: Dramatically throws Mufasa to his death
Scar in Lion King 2019: Bitch slaps Mufasa to his death
Took longer than apocalypse now but it's finally here
Hey, he still beat YMS.
@@btbwilkinson But did he make a documentary about kimba along the way.
Btb Wilkinson He still at it, lol.
I’m just pissed they called this ‘Live Action’.
I'm pissed that they insisted on it being a live action remake but as soon as it approached being the highest grossing animated movie, they threw that insistence out
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 the only live action part of this "live action remake" is the one shot of the african savanna from the opening
Jon favreau is so pretentious, he single-handedly ruined the film
I don’t know why, but when the edited ritual scene came with the ominous music, I couldn’t stop laughing xD
You need to look up the "Rafiki throws SImba" video. It's priceless. If they could have edited that in with the dramatic music, that would have been perfect.
Same. The re-imagining of the ritual had me in stitches.
I’ve watched this three times, and in public I will yell, “PuT iT tHrOuGh ThE mAcHiNe FaVrEaU” and no one will know what I’m referencing.
I can't lie, it's why I am here rewatching this video...
And that photoshopped pic haunts me.
13:10
Wow that’s totally endearing and not annoying at all that you would yell out in public a reference to a RUclipsr that no would would know what you’re talking about… cute.
I've watched this video many times and that is one of my favorite parts 😆😂
@@SeanMacadelic ZOMG EPICCS
“It’s like the lion king if Scar won.”
Nope. That still would have been better than this remake.
That would’ve been brilliant! Kind of like Cinderella 3 but idk how they’d pull it off in the lion king universe. Maybe Scar’s backstory? Anything would’ve been better than this
At least we would have, like, hyena parades.
i agree with you
you know what funny a another youtuber did Pointed out that Scar was right and should won a long time ago
I wish I could see that movie.
Yes! Like how he met Zira and Kovu. And if Nuka was Scar's real son. Bc apparently it's not Kovu ( to prevent cousin incest between kiara and kovu)
This movie was like watching someone reenacting the Lion King with taxidermied animal sock puppets.
Ok that would be better
So your saying Chuck testa could have directed this?
@@xxth3plagu3d0ctorxx Beat me to it XD Though one of the OG Chuck Testa visuals is him with Mufasa, soooooo...
FINALLY!! SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!! ITS NOTHING MORE THAN PISS POOR RUclips FANDUB OF REAL ANIMALS!!
damn you really came for the movies neck 😭
You know what would have been artful. Doing the lion king in the style of a documentary, but going HARD with it. No speaking, no singing, everything conveyed through the beauty of nature.
I honestly had expected something like this. Actually, a years ago I saw some documentary which intentionally or not was following The Lion King script but in more realistic way. There was a little male lion cub which was expelled from his pride because an outside male lion appeared and killed his father and got rid of his offspring. And I remember feeling the emotions about this story and how it has been narrated.
Id respect that more
But then they would have needed to redo the whole story. Lion prides dont work like this at all.
Sarabi would have been the grandma of all of the other lionesses and sort of the head of the family, but all the lionesses would have been equal in decition making and hunting, and Mufasa and Scar would be a coilition that just happens to be staying with this one pride at the moment, and they will probably move away soon because usually they only have one generation of cubs in a pride.
Not that I would mind the realistic journey of Simba as he matures and joins a coilition and enters a homosexual relationship with one of the other males, or a story about Nala deciding she wanna be a rogue for a few years before deciding if she wanna be a pride lioness or a rogue for life.
But I dunno if Disney wish to do that...
I probably would have enjoyed that. If it didn’t have any sort of story or animals that shouldn’t be talking to each other talk to each other, then yeah. I’d watch that shit
This I may have swallowed instead of trying to make real animals with dead pan expressions🙄
16:42. This is the first time I've noticed this small detail, but the baby giraffe actually reacts to the sudden light hitting it's face by looking shocked for 2 frames, then ducking it's head down. and slowly moving it's head to the light to adjust it's eyes. Crazy details from the animator
And it happens at the moment the lyrics "stepped into the sun" are heard.
I watched this today and was about to make a comment like this because I've never noticed that detail before... huh.
Quite honestly, when talking about Disney movies and remakes I don't give the blame to the directors anymore, because to me it always feels like they're just following directions imposed by the studios. When watching Aladdin, it never felt to me like watching a Guy Ritchie movie, just like Dumbo doesn't feel like a Tim Burton movie. Disney just sucks away any glimpse of creativity from talented directors just for the sake of having their name on the poster, because every movie feels the same.
I second this. Favreau has done an amazing job with the Mandalorian, and looking at Lion King, I really don't see the same directing style. Disney remakes are really not much more that vacuums for money with no creativity.
Of course, since these remakes are usually just the exact copies of their original. There's no place for any originality here.
Alice in Wonderland was not a good movie, but at least it had some Tim Burton "flavor" to it.
But when you have to copy a movie basically frame by frame, then it's really hard to leave your mark on it.
@@bookfish Remakes don't have to be frame by frame, which was why the jungle book was somewhat tolerable. You can be faithful to the original without just making the original again.
@@SpitFyre37 It sure sounds like a lot of the completely counter-productive ideas and goals were in fact his and things he wanted. This was a doomed enterprise which would never be good, but I don't absolve Favreau from blame at all. It seems much less like a commission he's doing and more like he's on board with the misguided justifications for doing this shit.
So true. I think the number one hallmark of a Disney film is the level of consistent studio interference. The live action remakes of animated classics feel like Marvel movies, just products with deadlines on the corporate conveyor belt. They don't want story tellers with unique visions, they want factory workers to assemble the pieces that are coming down the belt in time for the products to be packaged and sold.
Animated movies make me sad these days because they are either the dumbest most kid pandering things or they are boring or occasionally the most crass over the top nonsense that only serves to offend. I really really wish more people would acknowledge that animation has the most potential
Aaand that’s where anime comes in. Have you seen A Silent Voice? Any Ghiblis?
@@EtamirTheDemiDeer Actually Ghibli is moving in that direction. Have you seen the shots released for Goro Miyazaki's film?? Why would they tarnish their prestigious name by going GCI and creating something that looks as cheap as Miraculous? They have to listen to feedback from fans or they'll be another Disney. Though I must agree with you on A Silent Voice - one of my favourite films of all time.
@@tanzeemahmed7196 honestly, i don't blame Hayao for leaving Goro's first motion picture before it even ended. That guy will never be his father and he only makes Studio Ghibli look like another generic lazy anime company.
Theres good kids movies. Like kung fu panda and megamind for example
I just realised that maybe you meant 2D movies?
"Live action for Lilo and Stitch and The Emperor's New Groove"
Me: *NOOOOOOOOOOOO*
I was pissed when I saw Aristocats. Do not ruin that. Please. I am begging.
Ju Galaxy Lilo and Stitch will be a HORRIBLE live action movie
The Emperor’s new groove might actually be a slightly better contender out of those two. At least that movie has humans in it haha-
Oh. Wait. 🦙
Why can't they do a live action Last Jedi and leave the good stuff alone.
@@unfoundpump this is the 21st century we must ruin everything
The worst part about this is that its success means we already lost. For every ticket bought to this drek, we show more and more that Disney can do anything and people will buy it.
Why do we need remakes, whats wring with the original (hey ryusuta)
Look At What *MY* Computers Can Do: The Movie.
@Ian Dog It's the same with Spielberg for Tin Tin and James Cameron for Avatar. "I've got a new box of toys and you have to pay to see me play with them."
Same with frozen 2...
The voice actors were the worst. Well some were not. Scar voice was terrible and Simba, Nala too
There's also a good number of ultra talented black voice actors out there, but no, they're keeping on the trend of hiring of live action actors and celebs, some of which aren't good at voice work.
They should have just brought back Jeremy Irons just like they did James Earl Jones
nxvxr I don't even think it should matter if they were black or not. They're lions. They don't have races, the actors could have been ANY race and it wouldn't have mattered to me. As long as the voice actors were actually good. None of the voice acting in the new lion king was very good :/
Well according to my vision...
James Earl Jones is too old to reprise his role as Mufasa.
Seth Rogen and Billy Eichner truly had lame humor.
JD McCrary lacks emotions.
Donald Grover sounded dull.
Beyoncé Giselle Knowles didn't fit Nala and she has a too popular voice.
Chiwetel Ejiofor is a good actor but not a very good Scar. He sounded agressive and brutal whereas the point is that Scar must be not that strong physically but cunning and manipulative.
@@LadyAhro doing a full cast of nigerians to voice Lions doesn't make any sense.
i am an animator who specializes in hand drawn on paper animation, and i really appreciate this passionate defense of the art form. we won't let the techniques die 💪
It's not hard for you to be defended here. This movie is utter crap. A bunch of CGI lions with literally expressionless faces.
Hand drawn animation is beautiful and it really bums me out seeing it replaced by bland computer animation and CGI. Godspeed.
Hand drawn and practical effects 🙏
@Jes Morse you are the one who thinks CG animation is done with a press of a button aren't you. These CG Animals are made by extremely talented artists for your information.
@@onepunchman7407 he never attacked CG you troll. He only appreciated defending hand-drawn.
This was my oldest son's FAVORITE movie, since it came out when he was three and spilled coke all over my pants but loved the movie for another 12 years, 9 months and 3 days after which he passed on from this life.
In his honor his brother and I went to this remake version and from the second(maybe third if I'm in a good mood)note of the opening song it just lost it with a different rhythm. The rest of the movie was off pace through the next to last note of the end credits. I almost walked out, a few times. I was even tempted to spill soda on my pants, but I endured it until the end. The next day we broke out the original version and renewed our good memories of masterful art. Hopefully they do not ruin Tarzan, my son's second favorite movie and a movie where Phil Collins OWNED the soundtrack. Are we to the point of saying, "gone are the days"?
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Thank-you for your opinion.💖🎶
I'm sorry for your loss, and also that the remake didn't honor your son's memory.
"Video games aren't known for their story telling capabilities"
I disagree, and am unreasonably frustrated at the laughing Tidus meme.
what's the chance of you making a video essay on that?
I agree. It was meant to be cringe! That's one of my favorite stories of all time.
Yeah dude RDR2's story is great. Witcher's story is great. Old ass games like KOTOR 1 and 2 beats the whole Disney Star Wars trilogy.
Ik I mean The Last of Us anyone?
I think in general though he's right. Videogames are still a relatively young medium for storytelling. Yes there are some great examples that stand out like The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption, God of War, Ori etc. but I'd still say they're still very much in a vast minority. Not saying that good storytelling in movies is awfully plentiful either, but storytelling tropes in movies have been established and studied for almost a century. Videogames are still trying to figure it out, often not going much further than just emulating cinema in well acted and produced cut scenes and set pieces with ultra realistic graphics. And then the majority of them don't even tell stories, which is fine because games don't need a compelling story to be fun, whereas with movies, even the worst ones, kinda need a story to hold it all together.
If all animated movies are just going to look like hours long adds for Uncharted and Assassins Creed for no reason I’ll lose my shit.
Disney has forgotten that one of the best points of animation is that it allows you to show things that can’t happen in reality.
Join us for Lady And The Tramp, "live action" CGI, where Tramp needs a scabies treatment for living on the street! Marvel at how beautifully rendered his resulting lymphadenopathy is. Realizmz!
Do they even remember their roots?? The point of virtual storytelling? The point of even _*telling a fucking STORY*_?!?! It’s infuriating how ironic this BranD is today, using their past achievements as nostalgia bait instead of a set for expectations and a strive to do better... are they even a studio anymore?? They just feel like an empire.. the childlike joy has been stripped from my subconscious whenever I see their name because of the lack of passion and magic in their cash-grabbing disappointments. It’s sad, really...
Pretty much; imo the most memorable "kids" movies in the last years whereMoana, Coco, HTTYD 3, Frozen 2... all full of wonder and not afraid to really go down into imagination fuel. Can't wait to watch Soul, that one also looks super promising.
"Well it started in 2015 with the release of Cinderella."
2010's Alice in Wonderland would like to have a word with you mate.
We dont speak of that movie ;)
@@carealoo744 honestly, I prefer a live action being bad for being overly stylistic and exaggerated, than for being bland and forgettable.
The same with Justice league and Batman forever. Both are bad, but JL takes itself super seriously and it’s boring as fuck. I can at least cringe and laugh at the ridiculousness of Batman forever. It’s not a good movie, but it’s an experience. With the Lion King I would rather just watch a wild life documentary.
Pulling from the video, I believe that the Alice remake has more in common with the 101 Dalmatians remake than it does with the new live action remakes, I believe 2015 onwards is a different era
the thing is though that alice in wonderland wasn't woke and was tim burton's take on it. None of these people directing now are doing any "takes." That only happened with "Malificient." I think Cinderella might somehow be the best of the others since then, only because while it could've taken a lot more chances (more like the book, the tree, not the glass slippers), it wasn't a total piece of crap. aladdin and lion king were just total abominations.
I'm personally of the opinion that it was 2014's Maleficent that started this trend. By which I mean that Disney saw Maleficent do pretty well for itself and then started cranking out live action remakes one after another because to this day they fail to see that the reason people who liked Maleficent did so because it was putting a new spin on a classic movie by telling the story from the villain's perspective. But Disney saw it as "this live action retelling of an animated move we've made previously did well, let's do it with literally EVERY animated move we've ever done that isn't offensive by today's standards!"
28:02 “But video games aren’t really known for their storytelling capabilities.”
I really hope that was a joke.
Judging by how many triggered comments that generated, I think it was bait. 🎣
i think a better way to put it is that videogames does not "need" to have good storytelling capabilites, as in they are not reliant on it. because in the end of the day, they are videogames, their primary purpose is gameplay and interactivity, good story telling is just a pluss. whereas movies have far higher expectations on their storytelling standards at a bare minimum since "telling a story" is the only thing they can do.
@@zuriach1321 telling a story isn’t the only thing it can do that applies to books where all they have to rely on is writing. Movies add the visual element so they can still be enjoyed even with bad to passable writing ie the majority of action movies. Video games add the interactive element and can rely solely on it like many movies only rely on good visual elements. It’s a flaw nearly every medium has where it fails to utilize all aspects of its medium it has been granted and only focuses on one ignoring the rest inherently making it lesser than it could have been
Because they are not? The reason why most of us play video games to begin with is because of the gameplay, to have fun. Video games that have a story, a good one at that is just a bouns. If you're really aching for a good story, go watch a movie or read a book....
I absolutely adore video games, but most video game stories aren't that great. Most just imitate other forms of art like movies and assume that's good enough. Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are standouts for having involved stories, but they do so by forcing you to watch 30-minute cutscenes, so they might as well just be movies at that point. But they can't do that because they know their stories aren't actually movie-quality.
I definitely think video games have the *potential* to tell truly artful stories, I just don't think they're quite there yet.
I refuse to watch Disney remakes and I refuse to let my kids watch them.
@M J Grasscutter they are better not watching it really
there are so many good movies out there
@M J Grasscutter we will stick to the originals
@M J Grasscutter It's up to a parent to decide what they want their kids exposed to. I wouldn't let my children watch them either.
Winifred Eghrudje how long do you think it will take to remake that?
I love you
you could tell when they announced the actor line up that there was going to be a disconnect, it was like almost no one even took an hour to learn about voice acting it literally sounded like celebrities dubbing a film
Yeah the voice acting is really terrible in this one.
@Trumero, Grobo Slazly is right. These movies gross billions, which is far from "bombing". Having big names attached to them ensures ticket sales first and foremost (I mean, Beyonce of all people?). I wish roles were given based on talent instead of star power.
@Grobo Slazly Beyonce is an extremely talented singer but oh boy... She's not a good voice actor. Donald Glover flopped too, it just constantly kept taking me out of the movie with how bad it could be some times. Did they only do one take? Were they too scared to ask for more because of their fame and status? What the hell happened? Brodrick was a bizarre choice for Simba when he was grown but at least he convincingly pulled off emotions and brought Simba to life.
@Trumero I always like how people like you are desperate to prove your agenda (even if it means lying and making things up to "prove" your nonsensical point) no matter how much the facts are against you. It's like you took more right-wing anti sjw commentary's word for it and decided do to 0 research about the subject because it suits your desperate need for proclaiming yourself a victim of the mainstream, which is absolutely not true lmfao. It just amazes me how people like you are desperate to partake in the "oppression olympics" even if it's means lying blatantly and staying in your own bubble or echo chamber that constantly reaffirms your false and made up beliefs.
We live in capitalism. Capitalism demands profit takes precedence over all. There's no secret oligarchy of radical feminist women who have determined that men like you must face oppression in the most meaningless and useless way possible by making movies about how "terrible" men are. These massive corporations determine what earns them the most money and go ahead with whatever is most profitable, because that's what capitalism is.
And before you say "men have the most dangerous jobs!" Then perhaps it's time you take issue with how men are undermined and treated through their labour instead of pretending everything is women's fault and they're forcing you to take these jobs. They don't. It's just a silly little scapegoat companies take much glee on because instead of taking steps to improve work environments and hard labour pay you sit on the computer all day whining about how women cause all your problems and the "sjw's" are causing all your problems. They're not. Seriously, you have companies guffawing at the fact your throwing your complaints at the complete wrong people and they can get away with the treatment they do unto their workers for the most profit they can make.
Mulan is also Decimated, she got turn into a mary sue with supper power even when she was a child!
GIRL POWER!!!
Xd
Because Disney higher ups don’t understand that women can be powerful through growth and hard work, they think that all women are just useless if they aren’t literally the most powerful being in the world
Using the phrase Mary Sue straight up invalidates all your media opinions at this point.
@@SeanORaigh he's right though, the new Mulan literally opens with a scene telling us how amazing and powerful she is it's fucking hilarious.
She became Rae from Star Wars
I'd be down for a real life A Bug's Life just for the shit storm it would be!
It’d be a bomb. Nobody wants to watch a 1 hour film featuring CGI realistic bugs looking like real bugs. There’s a reason cartoons and animated films give bugs a stylized look and don’t make them look like their real-world counterparts.
@@hunterolaughlin I love observing bugs irl, but yeah I totally agree I don't think anyone wants to see hype-realistic bugs awkwardly walking upright and speaking english, how would they even make that look plausible? Bugs jaws move nothing like ours, and some don't even have mouths at all (ex: certain moths, craneflys)
When I was little I loved turning over rocks to look at bugs. However, that does NOT mean I wanna watch close up hyper realistic ants speak through their mandibles!
the sad thing is that those clips of real Lions you showed off were more expressive than ANYTHING in the actual movie.
Lions are super expressive in their own way, it why I'm genuinely confused as to why they ended up making the Lions behave the way they did. Did the animators study lions at all? Did they even try? Have they seen how hilarious lions can be when cubs are getting too cheeky or mischievous? Their expressions when they're fully annoyed, worried or angry? Like damn, this remake makes it seems lions are completely unfeeling, non emotional animals when that's not true at all.
I'm not trying to "humanaise" real lions but the animators completely botched how real lions can be.
@@fawnieee all animals have unique and notorious physical expressions, and you can tell just by the mere trailer that this movie was going to be as plane as a building's floor 😫😫😫
I mean, as you said, lions (all felines have very similar expressions actually XDDD) are so expressive and funny! And to be lazier they don't even gave them cat like expressions!!
My iguana has more fashial expressions than those lions
@@EvripidouM you and your iguana just made my day 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks! 🦎🦎🦎
The way the remake makes me feel is similar to modern US comedy movies. There is no creativity in how the shots are compiled. It’s just “here’s the wide shot, now a reaction shot, now to a different wide shot.” The full range of the camera is never utilized. The voice acting is the same. All nuance is out the window and the characters are speaking like they are at the local improv night. They had some very talented actors on this project and I hoped that they would be able to Voice Act better.
Preach. That's why I don't watch a lot of straight up "comedies". My beef with US comedy is that it always works out in the main characters favor, they get the girl, get the best "jokes" even if they're the "loser" the audience needs to identity with them . Uk comedy is more about self deprecation or the character is the punchline, showing off their flaws and repercussions of their actions. Even in the UK office, David is the biggest punchline and he created the show. Especially now I feel like every US comedy writer just wants to replicate the always sunny in Philadelphia model.
Then you haven't seen most modern US comedy films.1
And they missed out on using songs from the Broadway Musicals. Remakes, like sequels, usually enhance the lore/storytelling of the first. Such a missed opportunity
The fact this movie grossed so much at the box office and is the highest animated film depressed me.
If Disney doesn’t consider it as the highest grossing animated film of all time, then I don’t either
Only cause of the original
Facts don't care about feelings
It reminds me of the year when vevo music videos started replacing Charlie bit my finger, evolution of dance…
People went to see it because they thought it would be good
It’s sad what Disney has turned into. They used to give a damn about the audience, they used to create such imaginative and unique universes that would pull you in. Disney used to put so much love and money into their work not mainly to profit, but mainly to appeal to the audience down to a deeper level. They took risks and didn’t really care what it costed as long as they could reach a goal that would create something that we would remember for generations to come.
Now, Disney does not care about us, the audience. They only care about exploiting nostalgia and manipulating us for their monetary gain. They take few risks, and the risks they take always result in their monetary gain. They hide their intent under a blanket of beautiful graphics and great sound design... But even then, the greed shows through to people who are familiar with the old Disney. They butcher storylines, take away charm that their films had, censor this and that to be friendly to certain big buck countries, and destroy franchises with nonsensical lazily thrown together attempts at stories.
I miss the old Disney. I miss the times when they cared about the audience and viewed them as people with personalities instead of just numbers to use for money.
Disney will crumble down 👎 No innovation
I was on the verge of tears when I heard their poor excuse of “be prepared” it is such an iconic song and scene, and it holds so much power. The new live action movie took that, spit on it, stepped on it, and threw it away. I’m incredibly disappointed.
Favreu should never ever go near a classic Disney film ever again
Controversial but I thought it was good. I do like how they change up the score of a film when redoing it, I think Hans Zimmer did a really good job of making it sound dark and different. It’s just too different from the OG given the lines are spoken instead of sung, it catches you so off guard it’s hard to appreciate
Really the only point of that song for me was to inspire me to make a Darkstalker AMV out of it
This film did scar dirty
Classic Disney films put me in tears in another way
26:55 "So we're paying money to go to the cinema and remember a better film?"
Disney remakes in a nutshell
Sadly.
I am convinced this is their actual protocol now. Can't wait for their Star Wars remakes :(
The whole remake-wave didn't start with "Cinderella" but with Tim Burton's "Alice in Wonderland". It's because it made over a billion dollars DIsney saw the potential for milking the cow
Exactly. Alice In Wonderland started it, then it blew out of proportions with Maleficent.
@@DanieleMulas-up7np I'm not happy with live actions which copy the original and I'm not happy with live actions which put minor 'modernizing' spins on them. So I think that Return to Wonderland and Malefecint did it right by completely changing the plot, basically just keeping the characters and the symbolism, and giving it a separate identity. I don't think they outshone Disney classics, and they have their mistakes, but they at least deserve to be seen as creations, not recreations.
@@frenchbreadstupidity7054 While that can be true of Alice, Maleficent IS Sleeping Beauty with a stupid "darker" spin.
@@frenchbreadstupidity7054 If anything, I'd say the trend began with the 101 Dalmatians remake. But, yeah, agreed. By radically changing the story they wanted to tell, both Maleficent and the newer Alice in Wonderland legitimately had reasons to exist. Disney's other bland remakes (like Cinderella or Aladdin etc.) that don't do anything aside from change a line or two can't say the same.
Cinderella wasn’t even a bad remake. They gave the titular character more personality while still retaining the original’s aesthetic.
“The shadow can only *mock* , it cannot *make* .” -JRR Tolkien
I think there's more to be said about the intro scene. In the theaters in 1994 it's an amazing experience. After the trailers, the extra lights goes out and the screen goes black. Everyone shushes, they knew the movie was about to start. And then the sun rises and the first lines of the song come through the speaker. It's as if we were in the night and were being brought into the daylight.
the first movie I've ever watched in the cinema was The Lion King 3D in 2011 and even though it was 3D and I've watched it a thousand times, it was still otherworldly
Yeah my son is three, he's young enough for the Lion King remake to be the one he grows up with...he hates it. He only wants the original version. I couldn't be prouder.
Your son deserves a hug. Please give him an extra hug today
@@kayhaych05 will do
still paid for tickets & giving Disney money tho so...
Raising him right
I was skeptical of this comment, but then I realized how boring realism is to children. My five year-old cousin would never enjoy a documentary lookin ass lion king
It's amazing how much that ritual scene is when you change the music
It’s also amazing (how horrible it is) that Miraheze (commenters) called people “crying babies” for making the bastardized version of The Lion King (greatestmovies.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=The_Lion_King_%281994%29&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop) look inferior to the Disney Renaissance version by putting it on Greatest Movies Wiki (to spite its healthy hatedom that put it on its sister Wiki that even had a quote about Elton John’s distaste towards the very idea of a non-stylized version of the movie. awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Lion_King_(2019)).
It was so funny, caught me off-guard! Expressions really do a long way haha
Probably because it is literally a ritual
How much what
Well Jon himself admitted that he relied on the music for the emotion, because as well all know talking and singing lions don't have emotions. very realistic Jon
Every time Fraveau evoques realism, I remember that a female lion has to hide their offspring so the male doesn't kill them
A foreign male. Lions who've sired the cubs will protect them.
@@muhammadeisa1459 mmm no, plenty of male lions have killed their own. females will usually hide their cubs for the first 2/3 months before introducing them to the rest of the pride😅
@@athenariia yes I know that. Male lions can often be hostile towards their young. But not after they've grown accustomed to them. Then the cubs grow up as part of the pride.
@@muhammadeisa1459 I think that's what OG was talking about, which is that technically Mufasa wouldn't even be near Sarabi at the ceremony, let along close to Simba - so the idea of going for realism is kind of stupid..
You know what's really worst. The fact that I would have given anything, ANYTHING, to watch the actual animated movies on the theaters. And like me I'm sure there are millions who feel the same. So they didn't have to disgrace our childhood dreams like this just to make money, they could've just put them on the theaters again.
UGH SAME
I agree. In my state there is this one movie festival thing, and every year they show a classic movie outside with a humongous screen and a live orchestra. It was canceled due to covid. The movie this year was going to be the Lion King. And it was going to be the original one too! 😕
They actually did bring the original 1994 Lion King in 3d to Theaters around 6 years ago, but I'm not sure if they had that in all theaters across America or not.
They should really bring all the original classics back into theaters so we can see them again on the big screen especially The renaissance movies like beauty and the beast the Little mermaid, the lion King, Pocahontas, Mulan etc.
They did release this. Not too long ago. 5 years ago about...
I've grown out of love with Disney. Don't get me wrong, I love Walt's legacy and the Renaissance Era. But after 'The Princess and the Frog,' Disney just went downhill.
Hey, Moana was great and Frozen was good (not a masterpiece sure, but it was good), and both where original
I actually liked the Live action Jungle Book, (Sher Khan was always supposed to look threatening), and was pretty action packed (i hated the original). Cinderella was also much better than the original, (though the later cartoon sequals were pretty interesting).
Beauty and The Beast remake was just barf worthy like common Hermione ur better than this!! Mulan... wtf Disney??
And don't get me started with star wars... as a bonifide star wars fan i will always carry in my heart that Luke = Jedi Grand Master + Ben Solo was the "true dark skywalker 2.0". Screw "but...but.. feminism..." THE FEM. Characters of the old lore were strong + captivating 4 god sakes...and Marvel nowadays looks like a damn circus.
@@zoazede2098 really not trying to be _that_ person here, but I'm pretty sure that Frozen is based off of the various Snow Queen myths
@@fukkthisnewupdate8882 i know that, but, it's nothing like the original tale, it only has a "snow queen" and a kind hearted girl that saves the day, that's it, the whole plot is different, the characters are completely different, not like in the previous interpretations of folks tales like Snow White or Cinderella, where the basic plot and characters remain almost the same as on the original versions (obviously it's a more light version for modern children, but it's almost the same), so yeah, it's not the same as the others* 😉👍👍
Got the point, but remember, Frozen isn't a movie adapting the story of the Snow Queen from Andersen*
18:45 “but I’m not a mandrill man!”
EXACTLY! We’re human beings! We cry when we’re sad, we hug old friends, we instinctually read human facial expressions. Lions don’t cry, but Simba DID because THATS what connected us to his grief. That’s what makes this so lifeless
It reminds me of Lindsay Ellis talking about Disney's Hercules. She mentions that he prays to Zeus in a very Christian way, and not in the way he would have in that time and place, because that is they way the audience would best understand the scene. She was talking about how it's a form of shorthand, using what we know and understand to get the desired meaning/reaction from the audience.
Not only that, but cats have their own facial expressions and this movie didn't even get that right. They all look like they have facial paralysis.
If Jon Favreau was so concerned with realism then the ending should be completely different. A male lion wins a pride by challenging the current leader and winning. Your genetics only go so far... you have to build muscle and strength a lot of which would be affected by your diet and health. A lion who grew up eating bugs and no meat will have even less muscle mass than Scar and probably bald patches, mange, etc. Scar should've won no contest. In the animated fantastical version this can be forgiven and overlooked for the benefit of the story. Favreau wants it so realistic this should've been the new logical ending.
your edit of circle of life with the creepy music was brilliant i'd watch a whole film of it
Lion King Midsummer edition would be way more interesting than what Favreu did.
I thought it was genuinely creepy up until he “dropped” Simba, then I couldn’t help but laugh at that part.
Mufasa's lines when he chastises Simba sound different, true, but look at both scenes. In the animated version, Mufasa's face goes through a bunch of expressions - angry, disappointed, concerned, sad. Look at the eyes, the eyebrows, how they match what he says. Look at how his face fills the screen but keeps moving to further accentuate the most important words. In the live-action version, we've got two silhouettes with their backs facing us and they barely move! No wonder Mufasa's lines sound dull and flat here!
He is older now too. Like 79-80. He just sounds tired.
James Earl Jones was 88 years old when making this movie. It's no wonder Mufasa sounds so muted and dull
yeeuhs
The “live action” (super realistic HD CGI) Lion King is basically a big flex on Disney’s technological capabilities. This is up there with their de-aging characters in Marvel movies.
timone himself spinning the tea
And also the original film is literally a piece of musical theatre. If they wanted to “set it in reality” then just do a screenplay version without song and name it “Disney’s Lion Hamlet”... like how did he miss that this is highly theatrical?! Lmao
I mean... just *look* at Thanos... he’s a perfect example of what CGI can do and what it can do *fantastically*.
Or how you could read his expressions, how the smallest emotion the actor used came through clearly.. how you see him as a real person with real morals and ideals instead of getting distracted by the appearance and taking away from the movie.. not unlike these depressed looking “masterpieces” of African Wildlife
27:58 Okay, this video as a whole is great, but this line is just so objectively wrong it hurts my soul. Video games are, arguably, the greatest storytelling medium of the modern age. They’re able to provide something that no other medium has: interaction. That one change is able to provide so many interesting dynamics that aren’t possible in any other medium. Ever heard of The Last of Us? Red Dead Redemption 2? Undertale? All these games are masterpieces of storytelling that only work in the video game medium. Trying to translate them to a different form, like movie or tv show, will only result in losing what makes them special. Video games are the best storytelling medium.
If that line was meant to be sarcasm, I’m sorry, it was impossible to pick up on, and I’m very passionate about games, so hearing them insulted really puts me on edge.
Also how uncanny is it that he tried to make it “totally realistic” but all their mouths move and pronounce human words?
At least Racing Stripes used real animals ffs
"Put it through the machine Favreau! PUT IT THROUGH!".
This is how I imagine Disney (and every entertainment company) to be these days...
Thank God the soundtrack came out BEFORE the film.
'cause I literally cancelled my tickets to see the film once I heard what they had done to "Be Prepared".
bUt iT hAs BeYoNcE
As a huge fan of the lion king and scar I was extremely disappointed
David my family forced me to watch it with them and it was HORRIBLE
David and my family liked it
@@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888 I had to watch it as well, I found it boring.
Something I've always wanted to try is getting someone who's never seen the originals and get them to watch the live action remakes and see how many plotholes and stuff they can point out, that we filled in since we saw the original
I don't think it's any of the actor's fault, it's all in the direction. I feel they made the actor's hold back because the animals can't emote too much. They put too much emphasis on realism and cut back on heart. Good job, Bro!
And they missed out on using songs from the Broadway Musicals. Remakes, like sequels, usually enhance the lore/the world of the first. Such a missed opportunity
And also the original film is literally a piece of musical theatre. If they wanted to “set it in reality” then just do a screenplay version without song and name it “Disney’s Lion Hamlet”... like how did he miss that this is highly theatrical?! Lmao
This lion king is realism over substance, the new problem
“(Un)realism Over Substance” is a better term to describe The Lion King (Coronavirus Edition) than any other movie.
Jeremy Iron's Scar has more emotion and charisma in one line than every actor and character in this entire movie.
Exactly! The actors sounded bored
The look of sheer terror on my cat's face when my husband spanked my ass had more emotion than the entirety of this movie.
"Listen... it's not realistic for Rafiki to have a walking stick with him all the time. It is realistic for him to have hidden it just in case he needed to fight and then recognize when a fight is coming and go to grab his stick for the fight. But walking around with one? This isn't a sci-fi movie! The furthest I'm willing to go is to say that Rafiki is smart enough to carry out a complex pseudo-religious ceremony and recognize a complex social order, like monarchy. But it'd be bonkers if he used a stick to walk. He's not Einstein."
it's like not knowing what a wheel is but perfectly understanding jet engines
see how none of the disney movies that are getting remade has a villain that is all about money or super greedy, probably because they relate too much to the producers.
the new Mary Poppins has a villain like that, but there's also "the good millionare" type too, as if to say their greed is okay.
Which is too bad because I'd be interested in a Robin Hood remake that looks like Zootopia.
They literally changed the original ending of cars 3 because it had an anti-corporation message... many people agree that the adjusted ending makes no sense and the original idea would have been much better.
(Guess who didn’t really think to care about that)
@@sammygecko_ where can I get this original ending?
@@xmlthegreat Mayhe look up deleted scenes?
We need a new Disney. A new generation of passionate filmmakers who put quality writing above profit.
You are aware we live in capitalism? That will never happen.
we actually need to stop feeding their reward centers with cash when they do a bad job. it only encourages them to do worse.
@@fawnieee living in a capitalist society didn't cause this, rewarding it did.
I honestly thought DreamWorks would be thr competitor when they started making 2D shows. But then Illumination Studios, which just panders to families with toddlers, BOUGHT OUT DreamWorks Animation. And now we have crud like the Boss Baby. They also censored a show with an openly gay character.
Pixar are actually making a good recovery after their sequel dissapointments, Onward is a solid high mid-tier Pixar film, and Soul is shaping up really well. Disney Animation doesn't seem to be doing that well through - Frozen 2 was alright, Ralph 2 not so much.
Fun Fact: Be Prepare was originally cut for the remake but due to fans black lash they decide to pick it in.
*Editor:* "Alright. I put it back in, sir."
*Favreau:* "Excellent! Dodged that bullet, right? Hah! Now all is well. They'll like the new version, I'm sure."
*Editor:* [loong sip of coffee] ...
Wait be prepared was in the remake