Aparna hands-down. She's the one who talked about actionable and measurable goals, and intentionally driven decisions. Hansal second because he supported it fully and cited examples of real challenges
Hansal sir because of what he said but also because he comes from a generation where patriarchy and everything must have been even more aggressive. And yet, he's who he is, saying and doing what he is! Kudos. A lil faith in humanity was restored.
A message to Ms Sanon " When you do films like Aadipurush, Bachchan Pandey and Shehzada after showing so much potential in Mimi, you automatically loose the privilege of actually making a difference. Mimi should have been followed by more strong female characters. We as audience just hope that Crew and Do Patti revives our perception towards you as a talented actor. Vidya Balan, Tabu ,Kangana don't compromise on that irrespective of box office a film will do whereas Deepika, Priyanka balance it out. So walk the talk because you have the capacity to make a difference with strong female roles and not the ones like housefull 4 and ganapath".
This sounds antagonist but I agree with this comment! An important aspect of equality in society is knowing your worth and demanding your share of respect (regardless of gender). Kriti’s movie choices post-Mimi don’t really match her capabilities. By accepting pathetic scripts like ganapath, it doesn’t appear she respects herself enough. Having said that, I am sensitive that maybe she’s not getting offered a lot of good scripts like Mimi. Or there may be other reasons. I don’t really know what’s going on behind the scenes, but I hope she learns to treat herself with respect and demand scripts that match her worth as an actress. Because she is truly incredible!
Wow what a thread of comments here agree with everyone's point of view...I hope and pray that insiders vs outsiders offer game not going on with her.... Big name director doesn't matter... storytelling..achhi ho..
@@aamirhamza5741 please read my first comment again and realize why kangana was mentioned. You may or may not like her personality but she is a very capable performer and that is an established fact irrespective of how she is as a person. Do you realize that as a producer she has tried to project strong female characters in her films? Yes it's a fact most of them were not upto the mark but at least she's trying to portray female leads in a bigger scale even though most of them didn't turn out to be box-office success. So she backs her instincts without thinking only about numbers. This is the reason I mentioned her name.
Everyone needs to realise that not ALL great or female oriented films goes to Kriti. She has limited scripts to choose from. She chooses whatever was offered to her, good or bad, flowerpot roles or not. She doesn’t have the opportunities and her choices are limited, which is sad. Hence why the questionable movies she has chosen just to stay relevant in the industry. She definitely did not choose bad movies intentionally. These movies might have been the better ones out of all that was offered. There might even be bad ones we don’t even know and of course she would reject them. And also people need to keep in mind that she signed Bachchan Pandey, Shehzada & Ganapath before Mimi was released. She herself said in an interview that she has no idea that Mimi could be the special role for her where she received awards and accolades (which she deserved tbh) Having said that, honestly speaking, she did do justice to all the roles she has acted, whether the movies were hits or flops, or whether her screentime were limited. I really do enjoy her acting and she is progressively improving. I am looking forward to The Crew and Do Patti. I really do hope these 2 movies will do well and hopefully could elevate her as one of the top choices for better movies/roles/scripts being offered. Kriti in Mimi was terrific and she definitely deserve the National Award. But tbh, I really do feel she has yet to show her full potential as an actor. She just need the right script/role to showcase that. Filmmakers really do need to give her the chance because I genuinely feel she can do and offer more. She’s willing to work hard and push the boundaries. Its evident from how she gained 15kg for Mimi, how she trained nunchuks, kickboxing and dirt bike riding for Ganapath. She’s really a hard worker and passionate in whatever roles she potrays. My favs are Bareilly Ki Barfi, Panipat, Mimi and yes even Adipurush. It was a controversial movie and did badly but her as Sita was commendable. Even I feel she’s the only best thing in the movie. Its just unfortunate that people are just going to the cinema for the hero and not the heroine. These perspective and mindset really need to change. I’m really rooting for Kriti. Imo she’s one of the best in this generation.
Zoya said it when she said “Actresses don’t want to take the risk.” Which is so true.. it’s so frustrating to see Deepika playing second fiddle in Jawan and Pathaan.. and if someone at the top of her game is happy with such mediocrity then where does that leave the rest of us
You are saying this as if Deepika or any other actress is rejecting amazing scripts.... Deepika is at the top of her game but she needs the scripts which is good and if you are forgetting let me tell me Zoya and Karan Johar also said that there is a lack of good scripts in Bollywood..... So what can DP do ?? She has to do side roles in Jawan and pathan to be seen or to be in public eyes .... Now things have changed a lot with ott and other things a lot of women are experimenting ...only with few actresses this can happen now i.e who don't have that much of talent and they know they can't carry the film ... She will only say no to a amazing script!!!
I'm a cinematographer myself and whenever I go for shoots and meet the assistants and light men they are a bit shocked that I'm the DOP for the shoot. They ask me "DOP sir nahi ayenge" and I tell them no it's me who is the DOP.
I loved how they portrayed the family setup and lovely take on patriarchy in Satya prem ki katha. It doesn’t have to be a female led film but in subtleties it can make such an impact
I wanted to mention one thing. In day to day life, we all have recommendations coming in from friends, family, and colleagues. And what I've noticed is that most of the recommendations that come my way are for stories where men are the heroes. Everyone is simply obsessed with men and men only.
Zoya is clearly privileged. She is constantly defending the systematic patriarchy and ahifting the gaze to how women can change. But thanks ti her education and exposure to world cinema, she makes good movies.
This discussion unfortunately was a let down compared to last year. The nuances were just missing and the clashing opinions weren't really addressed out in the open. A few panelists had strong views (which is great) but not a preceptive, open ear for other people's views. I also didn't like the constant "denial" of data- that it's not true about our set so we don't know. That's like me saying that my husband shares home workload equally so I don't know about unequal sharing prevelant in society. You belong to the ecosystem of films and if you are surprised by such obviously one-sided numbers, that's a bigger problem about not being connected to its reality. @FilmCompanion: Would be great if you make the raw data and methodology behind this research available. Would be interesting to see those. Thanks.
This was such a great discussion! I think one thing that wasn’t quite touched upon though was the idea of motherhood (and the motherhood “tax) I.e. of course a woman wants equal rights and to be equally seen in the workplace but what happens when she gets pregnant? I have to say, I am not well versed on maternity rights in India but there is an element, everywhere, of employers discounting women for this very reason. And then when they do push themselves back into the workforce, what about the unreasonable costs of childcare?
I think as Fatima Sana Shaikh said in the interview with desai for the promotions for dhak dhak, the rate of women representation in films will be reflective of the rate of societies progression.
I wish Konkona were here to drop some hard-hitting truths, and show mirror. Most people here are in delusion, and deliberate denial. Only Aparna and Hansal seem to be driven towards action
The one man in the Indian Film Industry who mounts women centric films in the most grandest of ways, writes strong female characters, whose films are commercially successful and have the best music, whose heroines also win awards and who has single handedly kept the Indian period genre alive is Mr. Sanjay Leela Bhansali. He is so less discussed, glad Mr. Hansal Mehta brought it up a few times that SLB is an EXCEPTION.
Zoya dropped the ball when she said even the big actresses dont wanna do that and I somehow agree with her. Even I don't think Kriti will do it, but she also got a point about the budget. But this makes me think if Indian cinema have really suppressed creativity cause Everything Everywhere is a small budget action female-led film which turned out grossing so much.... So?
How did Kriti got the point less budgets will be hit easier too and it will be a start for a bigger projects cause no director all of a sudden would give her a 100 cr suddenly Even Alia started with raazi 30 cr budget
Ya movies like Haseena Parker, Rangoon, Tejas, Chapaak etc all have failed which have scared many mainstream actresses who do not want failure earlier in their careers. More seasoned actors can take the risk like Alia, Deepika, Kiara,Kriti
Anupama, I really hope you read my comment. This is a good “first” discussion of many. It’s missing an important piece though. Diversity and inclusion mean nothing because you dont talk about equity. Expressions like “my bubble is perfect”, “Im a woman so of course I want more women”, etc. are clear indicators that the larger point is completely missed. I also sensed minimization of the statistics by most of the outspoken people in the room. You cannot deny numbers! Not knowing one’s privilege, is another important discussion. How can women be born to the best talented fathers so they become the best gaffers? There is an obvious equity piece missing and you need to bring that E into the picture. I love that you discussed affirmative action - that is needed in the Indian film industry and proven to be successful (such as in the case of reservations in colleges and other jobs). Also, why do the panelists think they should comment on and decide other people’s career choices? I dont think career counseling is needed. These are all intelligent adults who can pick their own careers and dont need to be told “go become a gaffer/cinematographer/spot girl/etc. You’re fighting the good fight Anupama, I love that you do this every opportunity you get. May the best woman win! 💕
What SLB has done which others can't? Ofcourse people regardless of gender rush to watch his movies but he himself created that space for women in his stories rather than blaming other departments or people for it. That's the mindset directors, writers n producers who r the most imp people behind the camera should have.
And also make the hours shorter. So many actors also talked about this. They work 12-13 hours on set. It will be healthy for everyone including men to have normal hours considering how much one needs to travel in Mumbai and other big cities
In this conversation FC should invited people from those departments where there is dearth of woman participation in careers. Apart from Actors, directors, producers.
Women in creative industry is a deep rooted issue. The statistics are painful but here the question is how many girls/women are encouraged to join creative/film business as crew. After crossing point 1 comes the question of how many filmmakers would have women in their crew. Even if they take women in crew does the set behave respectfully?? On a different note, I felt, everyone in the panel is already trying to bring women into the creative space. It would have been ideal if the panel had filmmakers and production houses who are not doing it or are making films that highlight men, and machoism and ultimately are making crores. While interviewing Anupama mam asked that even in marketing women speak less. This exactly shows how the makers look at the film and the fact that even audience want that as these trailers cross X million views. Also, women/actresses as Zoya mam rightly said should show interest and confidence to lead a film and say no to films where they are just an element. As a viewer, I feel that women's participation/importance increasing in creative space should not be looked at as a mission but as an evolution wherein awareness is created where people know the crafts and opportunities that are there in the industry, making women understand/realize that these opportunities are lucrative and paying, make the makers realize that filmmaking is an art of storytelling that is beyond gender, caste and more. As Zoya mam rightly said, look at the craft without bias and give opportunities on merit. If a woman suits as your DP take her. Don't take someone based on gender.
Why Marathi movies are not considered?? It is one of the prominent regional industries and there are many good women oriented movies are being made like Chandramukhi, baipan bhari deva(which rocked on box office) and Jhimma.
The Kerala Story was propelled by the controversial subject that it dealt with and was also heavily backed by the government. If anything, it painted women as 'victims' more than heroes. It's not a legitimate example of a female led successful film at all.
Hindi films toh already stepping into the right direction but the south on other hand. Bash me all you like but the whole toxic masculinity films released in the past years have been not only overwhelmingly regressive but with little to no concerns on the female parts. Perhaps only PS1 & II have better female-written characters than the slew of others. RRR literally have none, Alia's character was not even great there.
First of all learn the meaning of 'toxic masculinity' and second of all, have you heard of the Malayalam industry? They already made this effort long ago
The way kriti looked at Zoya when she mentioned that alia is doing the yrf spy universe film, is quite something. It did feel like she's jaelous of alia.
When conversations like this happens it’s really important to acknowledge females actors like the late Sridevi who were the first game changer in the industry dominated by men. If Sridevi was in a movie no body questioned who the hero was- even into her last film Mom.
Why not compete for spot boys, umbrella holding and all the labour level opportunities Why is it that women only talk about percentages of good positions ? Equality should only be about Equality of opportunities!!
Why are those light men , production team (second second AD) full with men can come at 4am? Because their mother, wife or sister are cooking cleaning looking after the house work. If men start taking participation in house chores - women will have time to join blue collar workforce. Education and awareness to such men and women is important to bring the change.
Beg to differ with Zoya where she said that women do not want to carry the burden themselves. If I specifically talk about action genre, how many women-led scripts have been made? And even if they have, have they been mounted at the same level as a Pathaan which had zero plot sense. Also, citing the example of Sanjay Leela Bhansali does not make sense to me here. His movies have always carried a certain aesthetic, which follows through when he makes a Bajirao Mastani or a Gangubai. While he deserves due credit, is he not an outlier in a world of War, Pathaan, Tiger Series and any Tiger Shroff movie which comes out there. So, women can carry the load, if we have those movies more frequently and are budgeted at the right amount. Also, the question of women asking, "Who is the male actor" is also true the other way around. Male actors not only ask this question, but sometimes make decisions of females' casting in the movies. :P
@@raja-jl9os You say people are only interested in Khans but you also say people aren't interested in cringe Bollywood. Make it make sense. Khans, Kapoors, Deols are also part of the same industry that you call 'cringe'.
It’s so interesting to see the panel reconvene and I liked the panel last year. Yeah, and also queer people (especially from marginalised castes) are usually missing from these conversations.
One of the best examples of a female dominated cast and crew that I saw this past year is the Kannada film Aachar & Co. And as the figures at the beginning show, this is not a female friendly industry. I would love to hear the story of their labour of love.
Very very boring convo (this coming from a strong woman myself). There are so many people from the industry who epitomise and embrace womanhood, why don’t you invite them. For ex invite Waheeda Rahman, Asha Parekh to understand how it was, Jaya Bachchan to understand if the govt can have a diversity policy, like we she in the corporate world. And without any disrespect, what is Kriti Sanon even doing there….her last movie was Ganpath..a completely male oriented movie. Bottom line is if women led projects earn money, there’ll be more such stories told.
Over here the lady says women need men as allies but the director of Ms. Marvel says she is happy to make men uncomfortable. It’s hard to understand women. One cannot make a Pathaan with Deepika as she is ISI in the film. If she was Indian then it will be easier to make a film with her.
Alia Bhatt is the best example of an actor that perfectly balances out the commercial successes with the niche critically acclaimed roles. She’s Hindi cinema’s main hope for a better future for women in terms of female-led films that do the numbers. Very impressed by her choices. ❤
Everyone needs to realise that not ALL great or female oriented films goes to Kriti. She has limited scripts to choose from. She chooses whatever was offered to her, good or bad, flowerpot roles or not. She doesn’t have the opportunities and her choices are limited, which is sad. Hence why the questionable movies she has chosen just to stay relevant in the industry. She definitely did not choose bad movies intentionally. These movies might have been the better ones out of all that was offered. There might even be bad ones we don’t even know of. And also people need to keep in mind that she signed Bachchan Pandey, Shehzada, & Ganapath before Mimi was released. Adipurush has the potential to be good but it was handled poorly by the filmmakers. It’s not her fault that the movie did badly. Having said that, honestly speaking, she did do justice to all the roles she has acted, whether the movies were hits or flops, or whether her screentime were limited. I really do enjoy her acting and she is progressively improving. I am looking forward to The Crew and Do Patti. I really do hope these 2 movies will do well and hopefully could elevate her as one of the top choices for better movies/roles/scripts being offered. Kriti in Mimi was terrific and she definitely deserve the National Award. But tbh, I really do feel she has yet to show her full potential as an actor. She just need the right script/role to showcase that. Filmmakers really do need to give her the chance because I genuinely feel she can do and offer more. She’s willing to work hard and push the boundaries. Its evident from how she gained 15kg for Mimi, how she trained nunchuks, kickboxing and dirt bike riding for Ganapath. She’s really a hard worker and passionate in whatever roles she potrays. My favs are Bareilly Ki Barfi, Panipat, Mimi and yes even Adipurush. Her role as Sita was commendable. Even I feel she’s the only best thing in the movie. I’m really rooting for Kriti. Imo she’s one of the best in this generation.
@@rajattyagi8963 trust me I've far better things to do. Snubs aside, I don't think Kriti believes in diversity. She is looking for bigger roles which was made clear during the interview (which is fine. Many mainstream actresses what that). Somehow key to Bwood success has been being part of major success in male led movies like how Zoya pointed out and the original comment was that with a National Award in her kitty she is in a privileged space where she can take on meatier roles. I genuinely hope she does esp with her new prod company. When we discuss topics pls be objective instead of writing 3 page essay praising actors where the question is not regarding the calibre of the past but the opportunity of present and future considering the award‼️
"As a filmmaker, I wanna hire the best person for the job". - Zoya Akhtar. This. This is how we should think. Let's stop crying about women not getting jobs and start hiring people based on their ability to do the job successfully. Be it a woman or a man.
This is a very flawed approach btw--the "best" person for the job is often a combination of factors such as their gender, caste location, ability, sexuality etc. As such, more often than not, the "best" person ends up being someone who comes from immense social privilege (able-bodied, upper caste etc.). This argument is rooted in meritocracy and often used by employers when they don't want to admit to a lack of nuanced understanding of these factors and their interconnectedness. Or when they understand it perfectly well but choose to ignore it anyway.
@@tanvimishra18 Yes. Definitely the "best" Person is a combination of all those things you mentioned and much more. So? so what? The best person is the best person. All we can do is encourage people with different permutations and combinations of such factors, to apply for the job but we can't give the job, for example, to an incompetent woman over a competent man or vice versa just because we need representation of a particular sect in the market place. We need to give equal opportunities to people without considering their gender or other factors you mentioned. We truly need to be absolutely unbiased while hiring someone, without swinging pendulum to one of the extremes.
@@drdev456 Please read my comment again (and also maybe refer to more discourse around some of the things I touch upon). Right now, it’s clear that you have missed the point of my argument. I don’t see the point in engaging further.
In a male dominated industry like this, “I only want the best person for the job” is in a way subtly saying , “I support the status quo”. While I agree that having the best crew will yield best results, if you want to change the status quo, you need to take risks and give opportunities to those who haven’t had the chance to showcase their brilliance.
So questions are will varun Dhawan do Kriti's part in vedia to be a part of great story if Kriti does the main part??will Srk,salman khan ,amir, Akshay Kumar do the small part if the main lead are kajol,kareena, Priyanka, Deepika,Rani...👍
Whether it's Womaniya 2023 or Womaniya 2022, the content of the discussion is the same jeremiad: women are being unfairly treated, they're not getting opportunities, all the big-budget films are led by men etc. Not even a single new perspective or argument. Film Companion might as well re-upload this episode and pass it off as Womaniya 2024 next year. And Kriti Sanon wants someone to cast her in a female-led version of Pathan on the same scale, when her last 7 films have flopped 🤣🤣🤣
Because still the position is same for the women..in the industry..pehle khane intezam to hozay..bhukh nahi mit raha and you are asking abhi bhi kyu khana maang rahe pichle saal se hope you get the point...
Exactly! Kangana has even strapped into direction and we saw how anupama went after her slithering her to pieces! Biggest hypocrite this anupama is ! She brings up only Alia because anupama works for Kjo
Kangana is making them for sure but the results have been quite disastrous don't you think. Tejas is going to fail to hit double digits at the box office though its budget is close to 50 crores. If anything, it kinda reinforces the issue that was highlighted in this discussion - that female led films still don't have many takers.
@@neeleshchandram941she is the only one playing hero in movies and these same people bring her down. While these people are talking she is walking the talk. If not today someday someone will get support! She will definitely inspire actress to become heros she is leading the path. Today she is trolled one day she’ll be remembered for pioneering it
Questions- Did anyone ask women do they want to do these jobs? Did anyone check for women biological needs and basis cycle where these jobs wont be sustainable Can we quantify the benefit? How many women will be ok with Odd hours, physical jobs, long hours? What does your audience want? if you keep creating woke content without having any view on metrics and how its moving numbers; its all pointless Movies is Business + art; please think about both before making decisions like creating compulsive quotas
Get well soon hater as kriti has proved herself with movies like bareily ki barfi panipat mimi n she just won national award for mimi she is a very good actress now
@@dharvinnarraidoo9817 so any criticism makes one a "hater"?as long as one is singing praises it is acceptable.be a part of majority then it's fine.is accepting the opinion of others so difficult?but then this amrit kal so I guess this is what happens when society in amrit kal.right?
@@dharvinnarraidoo9817 many comments I saw felt Kriti and Allu Arun were not deserving for their performances in those films. Some of her recent MASALA films like Adipurush and Ganapath bombed BOTH critically and commercially.
Everyone just go look at Rahul desai anupama’s minion mocking Kangana and Tejas .. and here she’ll sit and talk about women representation while she is leading the pack in destroying an woman artist who is alway trying to push the envelope. Shouldn’t she be encouraging.
So u mean that even if Rangoon, Simran, judgemental hai kya, Katti batting, I love new York, thalivi, dhaakad and tejas are boring films. Even if they are poorly made films, a film critic should still praise it? Where is the merit in that? Even if we keep aside the fact kangana is one hell of a toxic and delusional human being, still her film is being judged on merit.
In a male dominated industry like this, “I only want the best person for the job” is in a way subtly saying , “I support the status quo”. While I agree that having the best crew will yield best results, if you want to change the status quo, you need to take risks and give opportunities to those who haven’t had the chance to showcase their brilliance.
@@TitusJudah I understand your perspective on this matter. Striking a balance between merit-based selection and creating opportunities for underrepresented individuals is crucial. While quotas may not be the ultimate solution, it's essential to actively promote inclusivity and provide platforms for talented individuals from diverse backgrounds. This approach can help challenge existing biases, foster creativity further and contribute to a more inclusive and innovative creative industry.
Ok kriti needs to return her national award because movies after mimi made it impossible for me to believe this is the same actress that got national award.
If people don't like to watch you.. You can't bring a lot of people to cinema... You can't bring profit to producers.. so just act in side and let big stars mint money and people enjoy.... I bet in 1000 years also this won't change
I enjoyed this conversation, I'm a film or art lover all types. However, i still watching movies or shows that i can get something out of the story. Yes,you can always watch comedy, spy, adventures movies; but is something about those stories that touch your heart or humanize the characters. Love all of Zoya art's she has put out. Krity, you ade doing excellent work. Congrats on you National award. We need to get Priyanka back to some hindi movies. She is the best! ❤
Rather than changing the system, which is largely patriarchal, changing the intention and hiring more women, intentionally, would change the environment. This would eventually change the system. Also, changing the environment is more achievable than changing the system. Intentional hiring of more women in this creative field is the best way to go.
Did the Sandalwood audience even support the movie though? As far as I know, it didn't even make a crore at the box office, so this problem is not confined to the Hindi industry alone.
Same Alia is way more overrated.. atleast Kriti has look and personality! Alia is so bland not for big screen .. more tv actress vibes ! But she had Karan johar
Would have been interesting to have a commercially successful actor(s) in this panel to share the perspective of actors, especially if & whenever they are approached for a female led film!
This channel that keeps doing womaniya .. ignores reviewing any movie that stars kangana ranaut who tries hard to push boundaries and doesn’t get any support from the industry!!!! Fake and filled with hypocrisy these people.
She did highway when she was 20. Then she did raazi, gangubai they were also female led films, which are hit. In highway her performance is still talked about. Its not karan johar who can make a film hit. Its always the story and performance
What are you talking about? Highway was a hit. And it’s harder for female led movies to succeed because most Indian society is male and India is patriarchal. Barbie did better than Oppenheimer in most of the world but in India it was the opposite. That just goes on to show how patriarchal and sexist Indian audience is.
@@amandadarkwood535 Hollywood m filmmakers ka izzat kiya jata h vaha actor worship itna nhi hota h Indian cinema aur Indian audience sirf actor's se obsessed rahti h
More emphasis should be given to women writers for more inclusivity of women.. other deptts should have best people for the execution of the story written by a female writer irrespective of gender. That's my point of view
Wtf is patriarchal structure? Does hiring women create matriarchal structure? These interviews feel so irritating cuz u love all of them but they try to discuss where they know the situation and try to create a problem out of it. I see no research or homework or genuine knowledge put into this and people are just expressing points and opinions where they dont know where its going. Not to be disrespectful but they are just bickering.
To those who have problem with Kriti Sanon: Your father or my father is not offering her women centric films she is avoided by top banners name one film that she had done as lead with dharma yrf etc , she can only do which is within her limits that she already did my choosing a script written by woman, co producing with a women and also casted women her up coming line up is filled with women centric films crew,do patti, a biopic and action film with anurag kashyap only if the films are made without any disturbances like producer leaving ( action movie )or the man on couch Hansal mehta leaving in middle ( biopic) by the way ALL THE RECENT FILMS WERE SIGNED BEFORE MIMI RELEASED
@@rakshawestlife it is more about women representation than acting anyway if don’t like her acting it’s fine everyone have their opinion just don’t generalise
Bro she is not avoided example she rejected lust stories from dharma which helped Kiara a lot she rejected many good projects she is blamed too for poor sense
@@dharvinnarraidoo9817 Imagine if people start taking only the best or most experienced people for jobs in every sector, the workplaces will stagnate and no upcoming talent/ entry level person will ever get to do anything just because they are so called “not the best” person for the job. Meritocracy is BS, opportunities and accessibility needs to exist to bring more people in and give diverse people a chance to grow and contribute in their various beautiful and authentic ways
Imagine u started applying for jobs after studies and got rejected for all ur job applications because u were not the best person and maturely skilled because of course u didn’t work before. How will you ever prove your worth if you never even got an opportunity? These are the barriers one needs to break to make society more equitable
interesting discussion, it would have made it more inclusive if some views of male and female superstars via a video could have been added where they describe their views on gender bias in the film industry. Similarly how does SanjayLeela Bhansali does it? Wish someone had mentioned Kangana Ranaut, she is an unsung hero, overall a great discussion, wonderful hosting by Ms Chopra.
Who's your favorite from the Panel? and WHY?
None unfortunately
Zoya
Aparna hands-down. She's the one who talked about actionable and measurable goals, and intentionally driven decisions. Hansal second because he supported it fully and cited examples of real challenges
Hansal sir because of what he said but also because he comes from a generation where patriarchy and everything must have been even more aggressive. And yet, he's who he is, saying and doing what he is! Kudos. A lil faith in humanity was restored.
Anupama, she made it happen
A message to Ms Sanon " When you do films like Aadipurush, Bachchan Pandey and Shehzada after showing so much potential in Mimi, you automatically loose the privilege of actually making a difference. Mimi should have been followed by more strong female characters. We as audience just hope that Crew and Do Patti revives our perception towards you as a talented actor. Vidya Balan, Tabu ,Kangana don't compromise on that irrespective of box office a film will do whereas Deepika, Priyanka balance it out. So walk the talk because you have the capacity to make a difference with strong female roles and not the ones like housefull 4 and ganapath".
This sounds antagonist but I agree with this comment! An important aspect of equality in society is knowing your worth and demanding your share of respect (regardless of gender). Kriti’s movie choices post-Mimi don’t really match her capabilities. By accepting pathetic scripts like ganapath, it doesn’t appear she respects herself enough. Having said that, I am sensitive that maybe she’s not getting offered a lot of good scripts like Mimi. Or there may be other reasons. I don’t really know what’s going on behind the scenes, but I hope she learns to treat herself with respect and demand scripts that match her worth as an actress. Because she is truly incredible!
Seriously You're comparing Tabu,Vidya with Kangana.... Kangana is far from relevant. Only doing mediocre films.
Wow what a thread of comments here agree with everyone's point of view...I hope and pray that insiders vs outsiders offer game not going on with her.... Big name director doesn't matter... storytelling..achhi ho..
@@aamirhamza5741 please read my first comment again and realize why kangana was mentioned. You may or may not like her personality but she is a very capable performer and that is an established fact irrespective of how she is as a person. Do you realize that as a producer she has tried to project strong female characters in her films? Yes it's a fact most of them were not upto the mark but at least she's trying to portray female leads in a bigger scale even though most of them didn't turn out to be box-office success. So she backs her instincts without thinking only about numbers. This is the reason I mentioned her name.
Everyone needs to realise that not ALL great or female oriented films goes to Kriti. She has limited scripts to choose from. She chooses whatever was offered to her, good or bad, flowerpot roles or not. She doesn’t have the opportunities and her choices are limited, which is sad. Hence why the questionable movies she has chosen just to stay relevant in the industry. She definitely did not choose bad movies intentionally. These movies might have been the better ones out of all that was offered. There might even be bad ones we don’t even know and of course she would reject them. And also people need to keep in mind that she signed Bachchan Pandey, Shehzada & Ganapath before Mimi was released. She herself said in an interview that she has no idea that Mimi could be the special role for her where she received awards and accolades (which she deserved tbh)
Having said that, honestly speaking, she did do justice to all the roles she has acted, whether the movies were hits or flops, or whether her screentime were limited. I really do enjoy her acting and she is progressively improving.
I am looking forward to The Crew and Do Patti. I really do hope these 2 movies will do well and hopefully could elevate her as one of the top choices for better movies/roles/scripts being offered.
Kriti in Mimi was terrific and she definitely deserve the National Award. But tbh, I really do feel she has yet to show her full potential as an actor. She just need the right script/role to showcase that. Filmmakers really do need to give her the chance because I genuinely feel she can do and offer more. She’s willing to work hard and push the boundaries. Its evident from how she gained 15kg for Mimi, how she trained nunchuks, kickboxing and dirt bike riding for Ganapath. She’s really a hard worker and passionate in whatever roles she potrays. My favs are Bareilly Ki Barfi, Panipat, Mimi and yes even Adipurush. It was a controversial movie and did badly but her as Sita was commendable. Even I feel she’s the only best thing in the movie.
Its just unfortunate that people are just going to the cinema for the hero and not the heroine. These perspective and mindset really need to change.
I’m really rooting for Kriti. Imo she’s one of the best in this generation.
Zoya said it when she said “Actresses don’t want to take the risk.” Which is so true.. it’s so frustrating to see Deepika playing second fiddle in Jawan and Pathaan.. and if someone at the top of her game is happy with such mediocrity then where does that leave the rest of us
Finally some one said it! She’s become average
You are saying this as if Deepika or any other actress is rejecting amazing scripts.... Deepika is at the top of her game but she needs the scripts which is good and if you are forgetting let me tell me Zoya and Karan Johar also said that there is a lack of good scripts in Bollywood..... So what can DP do ?? She has to do side roles in Jawan and pathan to be seen or to be in public eyes .... Now things have changed a lot with ott and other things a lot of women are experimenting ...only with few actresses this can happen now i.e who don't have that much of talent and they know they can't carry the film ... She will only say no to a amazing script!!!
ZOYA WAS VERY HONEST WHEN SHE SAID "SOMETIMES THE ACTRESS DON'T WANT TO DO THE FILMS
I'm a cinematographer myself and whenever I go for shoots and meet the assistants and light men they are a bit shocked that I'm the DOP for the shoot. They ask me "DOP sir nahi ayenge" and I tell them no it's me who is the DOP.
I loved how they portrayed the family setup and lovely take on patriarchy in Satya prem ki katha. It doesn’t have to be a female led film but in subtleties it can make such an impact
I wanted to mention one thing. In day to day life, we all have recommendations coming in from friends, family, and colleagues. And what I've noticed is that most of the recommendations that come my way are for stories where men are the heroes. Everyone is simply obsessed with men and men only.
Zoya is clearly privileged. She is constantly defending the systematic patriarchy and ahifting the gaze to how women can change. But thanks ti her education and exposure to world cinema, she makes good movies.
nah you are just ...
This discussion unfortunately was a let down compared to last year. The nuances were just missing and the clashing opinions weren't really addressed out in the open. A few panelists had strong views (which is great) but not a preceptive, open ear for other people's views. I also didn't like the constant "denial" of data- that it's not true about our set so we don't know. That's like me saying that my husband shares home workload equally so I don't know about unequal sharing prevelant in society. You belong to the ecosystem of films and if you are surprised by such obviously one-sided numbers, that's a bigger problem about not being connected to its reality.
@FilmCompanion: Would be great if you make the raw data and methodology behind this research available. Would be interesting to see those. Thanks.
I like how Anupama ji lives for comfortable shoes. If it isn't trainers, it's the down-to-earth block heels.
chanel
This was such a great discussion! I think one thing that wasn’t quite touched upon though was the idea of motherhood (and the motherhood “tax) I.e. of course a woman wants equal rights and to be equally seen in the workplace but what happens when she gets pregnant? I have to say, I am not well versed on maternity rights in India but there is an element, everywhere, of employers discounting women for this very reason. And then when they do push themselves back into the workforce, what about the unreasonable costs of childcare?
I think as Fatima Sana Shaikh said in the interview with desai for the promotions for dhak dhak, the rate of women representation in films will be reflective of the rate of societies progression.
Hollywood don't have superstars they only have games, dolls, comic's book movie's
Indian people only go to theater for khans and sequels
I wish Konkona were here to drop some hard-hitting truths, and show mirror. Most people here are in delusion, and deliberate denial. Only Aparna and Hansal seem to be driven towards action
Can’t agree more! They themselves said they live in a bubble 😄 specially Zoya talks about only first world problems even through her movies..
The one man in the Indian Film Industry who mounts women centric films in the most grandest of ways, writes strong female characters, whose films are commercially successful and have the best music, whose heroines also win awards and who has single handedly kept the Indian period genre alive is Mr. Sanjay Leela Bhansali. He is so less discussed, glad Mr. Hansal Mehta brought it up a few times that SLB is an EXCEPTION.
His movie look like saas bahu tv shows
Indian tv shows is all about women's 😂
Zoya dropped the ball when she said even the big actresses dont wanna do that and I somehow agree with her. Even I don't think Kriti will do it, but she also got a point about the budget. But this makes me think if Indian cinema have really suppressed creativity cause Everything Everywhere is a small budget action female-led film which turned out grossing so much.... So?
How did Kriti got the point less budgets will be hit easier too and it will be a start for a bigger projects cause no director all of a sudden would give her a 100 cr suddenly
Even Alia started with raazi 30 cr budget
Ya movies like Haseena Parker, Rangoon, Tejas, Chapaak etc all have failed which have scared many mainstream actresses who do not want failure earlier in their careers. More seasoned actors can take the risk like Alia, Deepika, Kiara,Kriti
Anupama, I really hope you read my comment. This is a good “first” discussion of many. It’s missing an important piece though. Diversity and inclusion mean nothing because you dont talk about equity. Expressions like “my bubble is perfect”, “Im a woman so of course I want more women”, etc. are clear indicators that the larger point is completely missed. I also sensed minimization of the statistics by most of the outspoken people in the room. You cannot deny numbers!
Not knowing one’s privilege, is another important discussion. How can women be born to the best talented fathers so they become the best gaffers? There is an obvious equity piece missing and you need to bring that E into the picture.
I love that you discussed affirmative action - that is needed in the Indian film industry and proven to be successful (such as in the case of reservations in colleges and other jobs).
Also, why do the panelists think they should comment on and decide other people’s career choices? I dont think career counseling is needed. These are all intelligent adults who can pick their own careers and dont need to be told “go become a gaffer/cinematographer/spot girl/etc.
You’re fighting the good fight Anupama, I love that you do this every opportunity you get. May the best woman win! 💕
What SLB has done which others can't? Ofcourse people regardless of gender rush to watch his movies but he himself created that space for women in his stories rather than blaming other departments or people for it. That's the mindset directors, writers n producers who r the most imp people behind the camera should have.
And also make the hours shorter. So many actors also talked about this. They work 12-13 hours on set. It will be healthy for everyone including men to have normal hours considering how much one needs to travel in Mumbai and other big cities
In this conversation FC should invited people from those departments where there is dearth of woman participation in careers. Apart from Actors, directors, producers.
The channel name is Film Companion. So, obviously it will be about films.
This was brilliant, thank you. And, we need so many more males like the ones on this panel!
Women in creative industry is a deep rooted issue. The statistics are painful but here the question is how many girls/women are encouraged to join creative/film business as crew.
After crossing point 1 comes the question of how many filmmakers would have women in their crew. Even if they take women in crew does the set behave respectfully??
On a different note, I felt, everyone in the panel is already trying to bring women into the creative space. It would have been ideal if the panel had filmmakers and production houses who are not doing it or are making films that highlight men, and machoism and ultimately are making crores.
While interviewing Anupama mam asked that even in marketing women speak less. This exactly shows how the makers look at the film and the fact that even audience want that as these trailers cross X million views.
Also, women/actresses as Zoya mam rightly said should show interest and confidence to lead a film and say no to films where they are just an element.
As a viewer, I feel that women's participation/importance increasing in creative space should not be looked at as a mission but as an evolution wherein awareness is created where people know the crafts and opportunities that are there in the industry, making women understand/realize that these opportunities are lucrative and paying, make the makers realize that filmmaking is an art of storytelling that is beyond gender, caste and more. As Zoya mam rightly said, look at the craft without bias and give opportunities on merit. If a woman suits as your DP take her. Don't take someone based on gender.
Agree!
It is so surprising how surprised I am that this conversation happened .. excellent job Anupama
Why Marathi movies are not considered?? It is one of the prominent regional industries and there are many good women oriented movies are being made like Chandramukhi, baipan bhari deva(which rocked on box office) and Jhimma.
Also there is a lot of literature out there about how to do gender-agnostic hiring. The first thing needed is intent.
Kerala story was women led movie! Probably the highest grossing. Gangubai didn’t even recover it’s budget
The Kerala Story was propelled by the controversial subject that it dealt with and was also heavily backed by the government. If anything, it painted women as 'victims' more than heroes. It's not a legitimate example of a female led successful film at all.
@@neeleshchandram941 south people make garbage masala movie like mumbai ki kiran bedi 😮
Gangubai recovered it's budget
Hindi films toh already stepping into the right direction but the south on other hand. Bash me all you like but the whole toxic masculinity films released in the past years have been not only overwhelmingly regressive but with little to no concerns on the female parts. Perhaps only PS1 & II have better female-written characters than the slew of others. RRR literally have none, Alia's character was not even great there.
Rrr is cringe
@@raja-jl9os yes for your standards Pathaan is best enjoy
@@Besties591 nhi
First of all learn the meaning of 'toxic masculinity' and second of all, have you heard of the Malayalam industry? They already made this effort long ago
These biggies should ask their HR recruitment team on women recruitment as most of them chosen men over women for leadership roles
Anupama and film companion never disappoint. Lovely interview. Anupama your passion towards your profession is applause worthy.
"never fail to disappoint" would mean they disappoint every time.
@@chanakyadevil oops thanks for pointing that out! Correction: never disappoint
zoya am sorry but you are blinded w your privilege and thats what is making you so optimistic
The way kriti looked at Zoya when she mentioned that alia is doing the yrf spy universe film, is quite something. It did feel like she's jaelous of alia.
@marinihandayani1571 yeah could be
@@RY-xk7wp she can work in tv but they work in ganpath
How is Piku a woman's story? Just because it is named after the female lead? Both Amitabh and Irrfan were more interesting characters in Piku, IMHO.
Why are men underrepresented in fashion industry, nursing, social service, pharma, childcare?
40:48 while kriti and these people are talking ! Kangana is doing it and these people spend time and resources mocking her.
100% right
When conversations like this happens it’s really important to acknowledge females actors like the late Sridevi who were the first game changer in the industry dominated by men. If Sridevi was in a movie no body questioned who the hero was- even into her last film Mom.
I feel there was an under representation of actresses here in this panel
Why people praise south cinema? 😂 I think they make cringe masala with women lead😂
If we talk abt only directors, I think our industry have more female directors who make commercial cinema than in Hollywood.
Hollywood industry don't have superstars unko franchise aur ip chiye box office k liye 🤣
Why not compete for spot boys, umbrella holding and all the labour level opportunities
Why is it that women only talk about percentages of good positions ?
Equality should only be about Equality of opportunities!!
The equality of opportunity is not there is our film Industry.
Why are those light men , production team (second second AD) full with men can come at 4am? Because their mother, wife or sister are cooking cleaning looking after the house work. If men start taking participation in house chores - women will have time to join blue collar workforce. Education and awareness to such men and women is important to bring the change.
Women's are physically weak this is nature ab aap nature ko gali de sakte ho😂
Beg to differ with Zoya where she said that women do not want to carry the burden themselves. If I specifically talk about action genre, how many women-led scripts have been made? And even if they have, have they been mounted at the same level as a Pathaan which had zero plot sense. Also, citing the example of Sanjay Leela Bhansali does not make sense to me here. His movies have always carried a certain aesthetic, which follows through when he makes a Bajirao Mastani or a Gangubai. While he deserves due credit, is he not an outlier in a world of War, Pathaan, Tiger Series and any Tiger Shroff movie which comes out there. So, women can carry the load, if we have those movies more frequently and are budgeted at the right amount. Also, the question of women asking, "Who is the male actor" is also true the other way around. Male actors not only ask this question, but sometimes make decisions of females' casting in the movies. :P
I like action movies but Indian cinema action is garbage biggest example is rrr 😂
People only interested in khans and sequel people don't like cringe bollywood
Kangana is taking that burden of making female centric films but Bollywood pretends like she doesn’t exist
@@raja-jl9os You say people are only interested in Khans but you also say people aren't interested in cringe Bollywood. Make it make sense. Khans, Kapoors, Deols are also part of the same industry that you call 'cringe'.
@@neeleshchandram941 gadar, fukrey, dream girl all movies are so called sequel
2:47 Bechdel Test is not always a reliable measure for gauging quality content. Not that I’m dismissing it but it’s not a formal type of measurement.
zoya is living the reality. others are just living in fairy tale.
What reality??
Tiger 3 Biggest Hit hai 2023 Megastar Salman Khan Sir Bo Office Ka King hai🔥🔥
Perfect 👍
It’s so interesting to see the panel reconvene and I liked the panel last year. Yeah, and also queer people (especially from marginalised castes) are usually missing from these conversations.
What about no to little representation of SC ST AND OBC?
Caste system should be abolished
Strongest woman actor is SHIFALI shah !!
We don't have good filmmakers in Indian cinema 😂
Good conversation. 👌 Missed Ekta in the room.
I also think this group of people is out of touch with the ground realities of women. Who are from backgrounds starkly different from theirs.
Here only only for Hansel and Vikram Aditya sir ❤
Why not for the women speakers?
One of the best examples of a female dominated cast and crew that I saw this past year is the Kannada film Aachar & Co. And as the figures at the beginning show, this is not a female friendly industry. I would love to hear the story of their labour of love.
Best example
Very very boring convo (this coming from a strong woman myself). There are so many people from the industry who epitomise and embrace womanhood, why don’t you invite them. For ex invite Waheeda Rahman, Asha Parekh to understand how it was, Jaya Bachchan to understand if the govt can have a diversity policy, like we she in the corporate world. And without any disrespect, what is Kriti Sanon even doing there….her last movie was Ganpath..a completely male oriented movie. Bottom line is if women led projects earn money, there’ll be more such stories told.
Over here the lady says women need men as allies but the director of Ms. Marvel says she
is happy to make men uncomfortable. It’s hard to understand women.
One cannot make a Pathaan
with Deepika as she is ISI in the film. If she was Indian then it will
be easier to make a film with her.
Alia Bhatt is the best example of an actor that perfectly balances out the commercial successes with the niche critically acclaimed roles. She’s Hindi cinema’s main hope for a better future for women in terms of female-led films that do the numbers. Very impressed by her choices. ❤
They are not niche movies 😂 but bollywood k standard k hisab se vo niche movie h
Vishal bhardwaj and raju hirani movies are commercial
I think its more Kareena she has done chameli and k3g, talash and jab we met
Her n kareena both for me
Alia is mediocre, papa johar se Acchi acchi script mil jati hai
The conversation is neither intellectual nor insightful without delving into the anthropological perspective of gender imbalance in Bollywood.
Lol kriti's face when Zoya said Alia in spy universe and the way she said really to Zoya made me laugh 😂
Yeah because that’s a joke!
She’s really jealous of Alia lol
@@amandadarkwood535what's there to be jealous of a girl whose entire career is served to her on a platter by johar?
She said really when Zoya said actress refuse to star in films not about Alia
@@charan775 yeah but you could clearly see Kriti’s irritated expression when Zoya mentioned Alia lol
Everyone needs to realise that not ALL great or female oriented films goes to Kriti. She has limited scripts to choose from. She chooses whatever was offered to her, good or bad, flowerpot roles or not. She doesn’t have the opportunities and her choices are limited, which is sad. Hence why the questionable movies she has chosen just to stay relevant in the industry. She definitely did not choose bad movies intentionally. These movies might have been the better ones out of all that was offered. There might even be bad ones we don’t even know of. And also people need to keep in mind that she signed Bachchan Pandey, Shehzada, & Ganapath before Mimi was released. Adipurush has the potential to be good but it was handled poorly by the filmmakers. It’s not her fault that the movie did badly.
Having said that, honestly speaking, she did do justice to all the roles she has acted, whether the movies were hits or flops, or whether her screentime were limited. I really do enjoy her acting and she is progressively improving.
I am looking forward to The Crew and Do Patti. I really do hope these 2 movies will do well and hopefully could elevate her as one of the top choices for better movies/roles/scripts being offered.
Kriti in Mimi was terrific and she definitely deserve the National Award. But tbh, I really do feel she has yet to show her full potential as an actor. She just need the right script/role to showcase that. Filmmakers really do need to give her the chance because I genuinely feel she can do and offer more. She’s willing to work hard and push the boundaries. Its evident from how she gained 15kg for Mimi, how she trained nunchuks, kickboxing and dirt bike riding for Ganapath. She’s really a hard worker and passionate in whatever roles she potrays. My favs are Bareilly Ki Barfi, Panipat, Mimi and yes even Adipurush. Her role as Sita was commendable. Even I feel she’s the only best thing in the movie.
I’m really rooting for Kriti. Imo she’s one of the best in this generation.
I don't care your below average actor's I want good cinema
Sounds like coming from her PR😮
@@overtherainbow12345 Lol trust me i’m just a fan. No PR whatsoever
@@rajattyagi8963 trust me I've far better things to do. Snubs aside, I don't think Kriti believes in diversity. She is looking for bigger roles which was made clear during the interview (which is fine. Many mainstream actresses what that). Somehow key to Bwood success has been being part of major success in male led movies like how Zoya pointed out and the original comment was that with a National Award in her kitty she is in a privileged space where she can take on meatier roles. I genuinely hope she does esp with her new prod company. When we discuss topics pls be objective instead of writing 3 page essay praising actors where the question is not regarding the calibre of the past but the opportunity of present and future considering the award‼️
U can't blame Kriti for limited choice when she rejected lust stories and haseen dilruba and many other good movies
Women only want to do a best job,
❤
"As a filmmaker, I wanna hire the best person for the job". - Zoya Akhtar. This. This is how we should think. Let's stop crying about women not getting jobs and start hiring people based on their ability to do the job successfully. Be it a woman or a man.
This is a very flawed approach btw--the "best" person for the job is often a combination of factors such as their gender, caste location, ability, sexuality etc. As such, more often than not, the "best" person ends up being someone who comes from immense social privilege (able-bodied, upper caste etc.). This argument is rooted in meritocracy and often used by employers when they don't want to admit to a lack of nuanced understanding of these factors and their interconnectedness. Or when they understand it perfectly well but choose to ignore it anyway.
@@tanvimishra18 Yes. Definitely the "best" Person is a combination of all those things you mentioned and much more. So? so what? The best person is the best person. All we can do is encourage people with different permutations and combinations of such factors, to apply for the job but we can't give the job, for example, to an incompetent woman over a competent man or vice versa just because we need representation of a particular sect in the market place. We need to give equal opportunities to people without considering their gender or other factors you mentioned. We truly need to be absolutely unbiased while hiring someone, without swinging pendulum to one of the extremes.
@@drdev456 Please read my comment again (and also maybe refer to more discourse around some of the things I touch upon). Right now, it’s clear that you have missed the point of my argument. I don’t see the point in engaging further.
I understood your point pretty well but yeah sure, I know where you're coming from. Respect 🙌
In a male dominated industry like this, “I only want the best person for the job” is in a way subtly saying , “I support the status quo”. While I agree that having the best crew will yield best results, if you want to change the status quo, you need to take risks and give opportunities to those who haven’t had the chance to showcase their brilliance.
So questions are will varun Dhawan do Kriti's part in vedia to be a part of great story if Kriti does the main part??will Srk,salman khan ,amir, Akshay Kumar do the small part if the main lead are kajol,kareena, Priyanka, Deepika,Rani...👍
Srk already did that with dear zindagi
Aamir with secret super star
Aamir in secret superstar, taare Zareena par, Ajay deign in gangubai, RRR.
Whether it's Womaniya 2023 or Womaniya 2022, the content of the discussion is the same jeremiad: women are being unfairly treated, they're not getting opportunities, all the big-budget films are led by men etc. Not even a single new perspective or argument. Film Companion might as well re-upload this episode and pass it off as Womaniya 2024 next year. And Kriti Sanon wants someone to cast her in a female-led version of Pathan on the same scale, when her last 7 films have flopped 🤣🤣🤣
Because still the position is same for the women..in the industry..pehle khane intezam to hozay..bhukh nahi mit raha and you are asking abhi bhi kyu khana maang rahe pichle saal se hope you get the point...
@@pritha..-9441 bollywood ko pahle achi movie bana lene do fir bad m women empowerment krna
Yeah but SRK got cast as Pathan after giving 7-8 flops
Zoya try hard
Lol...When kangana is making women led films, same people trolls. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Nothing will change in theatrical.
These very women pretend as if she doesn’t exist
Exactly! Kangana has even strapped into direction and we saw how anupama went after her slithering her to pieces! Biggest hypocrite this anupama is ! She brings up only Alia because anupama works for Kjo
Kangana is making them for sure but the results have been quite disastrous don't you think. Tejas is going to fail to hit double digits at the box office though its budget is close to 50 crores. If anything, it kinda reinforces the issue that was highlighted in this discussion - that female led films still don't have many takers.
@@neeleshchandram941she is the only one playing hero in movies and these same people bring her down. While these people are talking she is walking the talk. If not today someday someone will get support! She will definitely inspire actress to become heros she is leading the path. Today she is trolled one day she’ll be remembered for pioneering it
@@neeleshchandram941 Aukaat of alia will be revealed in her solo movie in 2024....
Kriti also got botox now or fillers??She has got some job done thats for sure..
Nose job
No she is a natural beauty.
Would love to see Sandeep Reddy vanga here😂
Questions-
Did anyone ask women do they want to do these jobs?
Did anyone check for women biological needs and basis cycle where these jobs wont be sustainable
Can we quantify the benefit?
How many women will be ok with Odd hours, physical jobs, long hours?
What does your audience want? if you keep creating woke content without having any view on metrics and how its moving numbers; its all pointless
Movies is Business + art; please think about both before making decisions like creating compulsive quotas
All very good questions
Great conversation.thank you.
But honestly Sanon is a very very average actor.couldn't understand why she's in the panel.
Hole
Even she doesn't know why she's there
Get well soon hater as kriti has proved herself with movies like bareily ki barfi panipat mimi n she just won national award for mimi she is a very good actress now
@@dharvinnarraidoo9817 so any criticism makes one a "hater"?as long as one is singing praises it is acceptable.be a part of majority then it's fine.is accepting the opinion of others so difficult?but then this amrit kal so I guess this is what happens when society in amrit kal.right?
@@dharvinnarraidoo9817 many comments I saw felt Kriti and Allu Arun were not deserving for their performances in those films. Some of her recent MASALA films like Adipurush and Ganapath bombed BOTH critically and commercially.
Creative minds and Kriti Sanon 😂what a combo
Because she is an actor and producer.
Everyone just go look at Rahul desai anupama’s minion mocking Kangana and Tejas .. and here she’ll sit and talk about women representation while she is leading the pack in destroying an woman artist who is alway trying to push the envelope. Shouldn’t she be encouraging.
So u mean that even if Rangoon, Simran, judgemental hai kya, Katti batting, I love new York, thalivi, dhaakad and tejas are boring films. Even if they are poorly made films, a film critic should still praise it?
Where is the merit in that?
Even if we keep aside the fact kangana is one hell of a toxic and delusional human being, still her film is being judged on merit.
Why does Alankrita have that fake accent? It’s so bloody pretentious!
In a male dominated industry like this, “I only want the best person for the job” is in a way subtly saying , “I support the status quo”. While I agree that having the best crew will yield best results, if you want to change the status quo, you need to take risks and give opportunities to those who haven’t had the chance to showcase their brilliance.
Having quota in a creative industry will kill it. Change should be brought about in the mentality. Forcing a quota isn’t going to fix the mentality.
@@TitusJudah I understand your perspective on this matter. Striking a balance between merit-based selection and creating opportunities for underrepresented individuals is crucial. While quotas may not be the ultimate solution, it's essential to actively promote inclusivity and provide platforms for talented individuals from diverse backgrounds. This approach can help challenge existing biases, foster creativity further and contribute to a more inclusive and innovative creative industry.
@@TanveersPlace I don't like Indian cinema but hollywood is also male dominated industry watch hollywood women's filmmakers interviews
@@TanveersPlace you like female lead maasla movies? 😂
@@slayer_142 If it’s good, hell yeah, I’m all for it !
Alankrita srivastva - psudo feminist kahiki ... flop movies & raddi ott
isko bulaya kyon
Watching womaniya only for the 2 men's 😂
Ok kriti needs to return her national award because movies after mimi made it impossible for me to believe this is the same actress that got national award.
Money on stack so why should I hire incapable person?
Great 👍
If people don't like to watch you.. You can't bring a lot of people to cinema... You can't bring profit to producers.. so just act in side and let big stars mint money and people enjoy.... I bet in 1000 years also this won't change
Western people obsessed with pop singers 😂
I enjoyed this conversation, I'm a film or art lover all types. However, i still watching movies or shows that i can get something out of the story. Yes,you can always watch comedy, spy, adventures movies; but is something about those stories that touch your heart or humanize the characters. Love all of Zoya art's she has put out. Krity, you ade doing excellent work. Congrats on you National award. We need to get Priyanka back to some hindi movies. She is the best! ❤
kriti sanon has given back to back flop she don't deserve to be in this panel
Bollywood is a business industry with main goal of profits and not some women empowerment diversity HR club..
Hollywood is also commercial industry they make movie based on games and dolls 😂
@@raja-jl9os and get profits out of it... So what's ur point....
@@cricketclassics5490 hero worship is biggest problem in Indian cinema
Diverse companies make better profits.
@@purplepurrer talented ethical focused people better companies ... Rest are bogus
Bottom line is that responsibility should be given on the basis of competency and not gender specificity.
Easier to say as a man
Kriti Sanon shouldn’t be a part of this conversation. Except one or two movies she has only done mediocre job.
Rather than changing the system, which is largely patriarchal, changing the intention and hiring more women, intentionally, would change the environment. This would eventually change the system. Also, changing the environment is more achievable than changing the system. Intentional hiring of more women in this creative field is the best way to go.
Request fake bandrawood women emperors to watch kannada movie achar and co ..movie made by women ..movie of women ..
Mumbai ki kiran bedi 😂
Did the Sandalwood audience even support the movie though? As far as I know, it didn't even make a crore at the box office, so this problem is not confined to the Hindi industry alone.
43:20 diljit
*Kangana Ranaut leading*
I always kriti has overrated
Same Alia is way more overrated.. atleast Kriti has look and personality! Alia is so bland not for big screen .. more tv actress vibes ! But she had Karan johar
@@Besties591 no i dnt agree with that bcz alia done many strong characters
Would have been interesting to have a commercially successful actor(s) in this panel to share the perspective of actors, especially if & whenever they are approached for a female led film!
Hollywood don't need so called superstars for box office because they have big ip
This channel that keeps doing womaniya .. ignores reviewing any movie that stars kangana ranaut who tries hard to push boundaries and doesn’t get any support from the industry!!!!
Fake and filled with hypocrisy these people.
Femake Centric Films
Alia Did Highway Which Flop
Then She stick to pappa Johar Got 2 States Shaaanaar Humpty Kapoor Back To Back
She did highway when she was 20. Then she did raazi, gangubai they were also female led films, which are hit. In highway her performance is still talked about. Its not karan johar who can make a film hit. Its always the story and performance
What are you talking about? Highway was a hit. And it’s harder for female led movies to succeed because most Indian society is male and India is patriarchal. Barbie did better than Oppenheimer in most of the world but in India it was the opposite. That just goes on to show how patriarchal and sexist Indian audience is.
@@amandadarkwood535
Hollywood m filmmakers ka izzat kiya jata h vaha actor worship itna nhi hota h
Indian cinema aur Indian audience sirf actor's se obsessed rahti h
@@amandadarkwood535 Indian cinema m sirf actors hi sab kuch hota h yahi sabse badi problem h
Indian cinema is worst because of actor worship
Highway was a hit. It was made in a small budget of 9 cr. And it made around 30cr.
More emphasis should be given to women writers for more inclusivity of women.. other deptts should have best people for the execution of the story written by a female writer irrespective of gender. That's my point of view
How many women were there in this interview crew? At least the credit list doesn't show that.
one and half 😂
@@snfab1 Ranbir become toxic because he work with vanaga 😂
Good point. Strong platform like FC should set the example in practice in addition to sharing industry trends and statistics.
After animal ranbir will be the most hated male among pseudo feminists...It's guaranteed...@@slayer_142
Wtf is patriarchal structure?
Does hiring women create matriarchal structure?
These interviews feel so irritating cuz u love all of them but they try to discuss where they know the situation and try to create a problem out of it. I see no research or homework or genuine knowledge put into this and people are just expressing points and opinions where they dont know where its going.
Not to be disrespectful but they are just bickering.
To those who have problem with Kriti Sanon: Your father or my father is not offering her women centric films she is avoided by top banners name one film that she had done as lead with dharma yrf etc , she can only do which is within her limits that she already did my choosing a script written by woman, co producing with a women and also casted women her up coming line up is filled with women centric films crew,do patti, a biopic and action film with anurag kashyap only if the films are made without any disturbances like producer leaving ( action movie )or the man on couch Hansal mehta leaving in middle ( biopic) by the way ALL THE RECENT FILMS WERE SIGNED BEFORE MIMI RELEASED
But she’s a horrible actor
@@rakshawestlife it is more about women representation than acting anyway if don’t like her acting it’s fine everyone have their opinion just don’t generalise
Bro she is not avoided example she rejected lust stories from dharma which helped Kiara a lot she rejected many good projects she is blamed too for poor sense
To be fair, kriti has done multiple films with Sajid nadiwala, Dinesh vijan, T series. These are also top producers.
It’s becoming more and more cringe to listen to Zoya. She should sit with Ratna PS once and get some grounding
And not seeing Ratna PS, Anushka Sharma, Konkana Sen etc. here is astounding
@@shilpasharma459 Bollywood is garbage industry 😂
Are u getting dillusional as zoya was talking sense
@@dharvinnarraidoo9817 Imagine if people start taking only the best or most experienced people for jobs in every sector, the workplaces will stagnate and no upcoming talent/ entry level person will ever get to do anything just because they are so called “not the best” person for the job. Meritocracy is BS, opportunities and accessibility needs to exist to bring more people in and give diverse people a chance to grow and contribute in their various beautiful and authentic ways
Imagine u started applying for jobs after studies and got rejected for all ur job applications because u were not the best person and maturely skilled because of course u didn’t work before. How will you ever prove your worth if you never even got an opportunity? These are the barriers one needs to break to make society more equitable
Thank god Zeeshan & Harman did Scoop, they were so good ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
interesting discussion, it would have made it more inclusive if some views of male and female superstars via a video could have been added where they describe their views on gender bias in the film industry. Similarly how does SanjayLeela Bhansali does it? Wish someone had mentioned Kangana Ranaut, she is an unsung hero, overall a great discussion, wonderful hosting by Ms Chopra.
When juhi chaturvedi talks and kriti sanon interrupting her is irritating
Glad I’m not the only who finds her irritating and disrespectful
First ban Sandeep vanga from making movies that are reinstating patriarchy
Film companion and Anupama are so hypocrites. This show is only so gender biased towards women. Why are mens and "others" are not discussed 😂👎