One day Westberg is gonna hit Gira with a medical bill for crippling arthritis due to playing one chord for 40 years. Been listening since '99. I was 17. I don't think I'll ever stop.
Years before I bought Greed and Holy Money, The Burning World was my first Swans experience. Bought it on cassette in a cutout bin in 1991 and enjoyed it. I know Michael Gira hates it and it's considered a failure but I wish it would be remastered and rereleased.
This live version of "See No More" has the evocative power of the bunny albums, especially the finale! A pity it doesn't sound as good on "The Burning World".
Almost any live version of Burning World material you can find is better than that record. It was a record that could have been like the bunny records or even Children of God, but the band was in transition (read: Gira was behaving poorly towards band members and drove them away one by one except Jarboe) and Bill Laswell just wasn’t the producer for them.
@@MDK2_Radio Especially the live versions in 1988, when Al Kizys was still in the line-up. There's a few shows on here worth checking out (Paradiso 1988 is a powerful show) that really reveal what the record could've been had they gone into a studio sooner.
@@hellmik Eh, whatt? Me? You are clearly mistaking what I wrote for something else... Anyway, I'm not a native speaker, man, so I don't care about such things at all, read the direct message itself as it is.
Live is always as good if not better than 'proper' Swans output. Not many musicians are capable of playing live at all for that matter. That's where Gira steps in.
Thanks for uploading - ....why did they 'disown' the 'Burning World' lp ? . Was it due to the polished production ? , as this performance sounds more like the 'White light ....' lp ( & more listenable than 'Filth ' , ' Public Castration ....' records ) ...
See No More See God's sun go down behind that hill Then see God's sons go down that lonely road Then see God's sun fall behind that hill in darkness Then see God's sons go down that godforsaken road Then see us need more Then see no more Then see, see no more Then see, see no more See us deliver where other men will fail Then see us hold Heaven while others burn in Hell Then see us, God's sons, guarding Heaven's gate Then see our sun go black because we made one mistake Then see us need more Then see no more Then see, see no more Then see, see no more
@@brasikurtz I'm pretty sure it's Vincent, too. Based on the fact that you can see him drumming in other footage from this tour/era, plus Virgil quit the band before the Burning World tour commenced - according to the book.
It's not a "need", it's just an interesting option. Something new would be born out of it, but I sincerely doubt if better. Every set of songs has its time. There's no other album like this one in Swans' discography which is a value in and of itself, many really good songs are present there too. While if one likes the sound of this album or not, it's a personal matter.
One day Westberg is gonna hit Gira with a medical bill for crippling arthritis due to playing one chord for 40 years.
Been listening since '99. I was 17. I don't think I'll ever stop.
i was 15 when i was listining first time SWANS (COP+HOLY MONEY). that was in 1992.
Great quality for 89. Doesn't constantly cut every 3 seconds like modern "pro shot" live show.
never seen Kristohf playing upright. cool.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i was present.....great concert!!!!
what were the other songs they performed, exact date this happened if you know by any chance?
This band is crazy af!
Years before I bought Greed and Holy Money, The Burning World was my first Swans experience. Bought it on cassette in a cutout bin in 1991 and enjoyed it. I know Michael Gira hates it and it's considered a failure but I wish it would be remastered and rereleased.
Damn, far superior than the studio version on "The Burning World"
I agree, has a better energy to it, more raw
Live shows from the Burning World era show what it could've been.
The songs & songwriting are honestly good. Production & recording ruined the album.
@@DeadAccount97 Nothing like "ruined". Just made it different and "less Swans". But still excellent, beautiful and one of a kind.
This live version of "See No More" has the evocative power of the bunny albums, especially the finale! A pity it doesn't sound as good on "The Burning World".
Almost any live version of Burning World material you can find is better than that record. It was a record that could have been like the bunny records or even Children of God, but the band was in transition (read: Gira was behaving poorly towards band members and drove them away one by one except Jarboe) and Bill Laswell just wasn’t the producer for them.
@@MDK2_Radio Especially the live versions in 1988, when Al Kizys was still in the line-up. There's a few shows on here worth checking out (Paradiso 1988 is a powerful show) that really reveal what the record could've been had they gone into a studio sooner.
I think this one might be the best quality and live version on the internet :) YES!
File this under: Things that can never vanish from youtube!
One of my favorites songs, the band is amazing live. THANKS
Any more from this set? Stellar quality.
I would also like to know the answer to this, but I don't think it will ever be answered.
There's more just not in public circulation quite yet
@@augustportland That's a pity and an utterly wrong thing. Let's hope that "yet" is the key word here...
@@szarzyniecszczurzynski1902 Szczurzyński quit the management lingo..
@@hellmik Eh, whatt? Me? You are clearly mistaking what I wrote for something else...
Anyway, I'm not a native speaker, man, so I don't care about such things at all, read the direct message itself as it is.
my favorite swans record - thank you for the upload
Love love love love love love this song live! I am so glad I found another upload! :) Nice quality
what song is this?
@@xiutxui1689 See no more
This is beatiful
i know him is a very nice person
@@wanneske1969 should they be? As I've found out recently, most nice people ain't that nice, and really lack any substance in their blood.
Last 20 seconds are brilliant!
I love the Roddy bottum keyboard sound here.
I’ll give you a roddy bottum
Damn! I know he's German, but at 1:42 Cristoph Hahn looks way too German!
Jawohl
He kinda resembles a shoebill to me.
Lmao
Your papers had better be in order when he shows up.
@@michaelwilson2340lol
Such a great tour!
I love Crash Test Dummies
Windmill arm
Where does this come from? Do you have anymore of the show?
This is an amazing find, thank you for uploading ! ❤️
I love seeing Gira possessed by booze and speed
Well...Gira WAS an alcoholic during the tail end of the first incarnation of Swans so you're not entirely wrong lol.
Dunno what you're talking about. He looks sober as a judge.
@@tomosmansounds During White Light he drank a lot, that was the reason Jarboe broke up with him later
@@wanneske1969 source?
@@personarandom7579 That's what Jarboe said on their new 3 hour long dvd
thanks!
And to think that this tour was in support of their “worst” album
Thanks for the upload!
Profound bass
Live is always as good if not better than 'proper' Swans output. Not many musicians are capable of playing live at all for that matter. That's where Gira steps in.
Thanks for uploading - ....why did they 'disown' the 'Burning World' lp ? . Was it due to the polished production ? , as this performance sounds more like the 'White light ....' lp ( & more listenable than 'Filth ' ,
' Public Castration ....' records ) ...
Why is Michael kinda cute though?
tremendo
see us need more
That's great sq
AwwwwwR.....♡♡♡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
Eu transcendi.
Melhor fase deles. Pós Children of God.
Is that Christoph Hahn?
irving343 sure is!
Holy shit, I had no idea he collaborated with the band in "The Burning World" days
See No More
See God's sun go down behind that hill
Then see God's sons go down that lonely road
Then see God's sun fall behind that hill in darkness
Then see God's sons go down that godforsaken road
Then see us need more
Then see no more
Then see, see no more
Then see, see no more
See us deliver where other men will fail
Then see us hold Heaven while others burn in Hell
Then see us, God's sons, guarding Heaven's gate
Then see our sun go black because we made one mistake
Then see us need more
Then see no more
Then see, see no more
Then see, see no more
He is not playing on Burning world. But in the live band and on White light
Absolutely , all cranked up , yet, recognizable .
Anyone know who the 2nd guitarist (Norman Westberg?) bassist and drummer are here??
Yes it is probably norman. The drummer is Virgil Moorefield and the bassist is either Algis Kizys or Sami Kumpulainen
MedievalFluteNibba steve mc allister on bassguitar (hahn says that on facebook) . From Virgil i get a book about o.a Swans .
@@brasikurtz oh ok i was pretty off thank you
MedievalFluteNibba a guy on swans facebook filth thought it was vincent signorelli on drums .. i dont know not good to see.
@@brasikurtz I'm pretty sure it's Vincent, too. Based on the fact that you can see him drumming in other footage from this tour/era, plus Virgil quit the band before the Burning World tour commenced - according to the book.
ფრონტმენმა იცის რომ რასაც აკეთებს ზუსტად აკეთებს?
ki
Song?
See No More
Why is Fantano playing bass here?
Entao a central do itau tem bom gosto musical?
@@ryannMW7 com certeza 🙂↕️🙏🏻
*BURNING WORLD NEEDS A RE-RECORDING*
It's not a "need", it's just an interesting option. Something new would be born out of it, but I sincerely doubt if better. Every set of songs has its time. There's no other album like this one in Swans' discography which is a value in and of itself, many really good songs are present there too. While if one likes the sound of this album or not, it's a personal matter.