Star Trek Voyager - Renaissance Man - Chakotay figures out that Janeway is not herself
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'Okay Kate, now you need to act like you're Robert Picardo disguised as you. Piece of cake.'
I could tell a couple of things sounded like something the Doctor would say but only because I was listening for it the second time.
I like voyager but confronting „janeway“ after discovering she isn’t who she seems to be alone in close quarters is the same level of stupidity as a witness in red dead redemption seeing someone murdering another person and screaming out loud „hey you! I saw you doing this and I‘m gonna report you!!“ 😂
yeah Chakotay suspects that she's not herself yet he walks right into a trap and gets taken out by the doctor posing as the captain
@@raven4k998, He may have suspected it, but IIRC, he wasn't sure until The Doctor flunked that misdirection that was thrown his way. I believe that Chakotay's sense was more intuition and concern that something happened to Janeway, causing her very unusual behavior, rather than not being who she appeared to be.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 remember how much he knew her at first he probably thought she was hell bent on something and then he finds out it's not janeway only by then it's to late
@@raven4k998, Agreed.
A better plan would have been to have already informed tuvok what he was doing and where he would be in advance
Or even better not told her he was on to her........
and always carry a phaser
@@realnoahsimpson, Although, in this instance, that wouldn't have done him any good.
This guy has had so many defining moments that I don't know which is the best.
His name is Chakotay played by Robert Beltran 😊
It turns out that Janeway wasn’t really Janeway, considering that the Doctor was disguised himself as Voyager’s captain in order to save Captain from her captives.
Haha, now that's a tongue-twister right there...
The last part, when "Janeway" hypos Chakotay in the neck like that despite his resistance, makes you wonder how strong holograms actually are. The Doctor could be as strong as Tuvok, for all anyone knows!
I remember an episode where the Doctor kicked Tuvok's ass.
Depends on programming he could probably be as strong physically is any species that he can turn into as long as the program device that species parameters
I've recently wondered why the Doctor couldn't work quicker than a regular doctor, like Data who was able to work/type/read at superhuman speeds
@@sarahberknerI'm guessing bc it would have made him too OP for the show... And too similar to Data.
Chakotay is one hell of a commander
Nothing about him fits his Marquis background
#chakotayisawasome
@@john-leninHe was a Starfleet officer prior to that personal history.
He's one of the most underrated Star Trek characters.
@Dawson Davis I respectfully disagree. The change was gradual over Chakotay's time on Voyager. That's how real change in people most often occurs, nothing dramatic, just growth.
Just give her coffee to see her reaction. It worked with Dal🤣🤣🤣
The problem is, its unlikely the Doctor would have been fooled by a made-up story. To prep for being Janeway, he would have downloaded her entire service record into his memory.
The assumption would probably be this was an incident not put on the record.
Or maybe he wanted to leave a trail of bread crumbs without tipping off the aliens. So he deliberately aloud himself to be exposed.
Or the writers just overlooked that fact for the sake of the plot.
Well, I'm not so sure about that. He had a choice to make there. He heard about a personal, but significant story and he could either act as if he had no idea what Chakotay was talking about, or he could just carefully play along. He chose the latter. There are multiple reasons why the story wasn't put in her service record. Perhaps it was never put there because it contained sensitive information. Or perhaps the incident was later removed because it would damage the reputation of certain people. Maybe the mission involved required a higher security clearance. Who knows? Thinking about it, I would say that choosing to carefully play along is the safer choice here.
MrErizid, Another possibility is that he simply didn't have time to cover every contingency, as he was trying to work out his plan while thinking on his feet, with the Hierarchy duo surveilling him constantly. Alternatively, it might well be that The Doctor's overweening self-regard, spurred him to believe that he could carry out the masquerade without much concern about ever being tripped up.
And this is Chakotay the entire series... sensitive but wholly ineffective.
Not the whole series, he saves the day in a few episodes, Shattered, Waking Moments, and at least one other I don't know the name of.
Chakotay was never ineffective. Did you even watch the show?
Loved this episode.
In my head FAITH OF THE HEART started playing as the scene faded to black 😂
Faith of the heart is from Enterprise not Voyager.
Steve Lee, That's quite clever. Still, there was a two-parter remaining, before the new regime took over.
@@romonaelrod7870 Yeah that's why he put the laughing emoji there, genius
ITS BEEN A LONG ROAD...
Now that I’ve uncovered your subterfuge I’m going to tell you about it before I call for back up
Fake-Janeway:
_"This situation is entirely different."_
Chakotay:
_"I guess you are right, Captain. Now I must go. My people need me."_
At this point, Beltran is checked out.
*OHHHHHHHH!*
That is one of the problems with RUclips,
just when you start getting interested in it,
the clip ends, LOL! Now I gotta go watch it again! 🤣
Reed Reed, One way or the other, viewers' arriving at that conclusion, is usually the idea, whether the explicit intention of the poster, or not.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 Are you saying that viewers arriving at the idea to watch the episode is usually the idea? (I am not sure of what you mean please)
1 of the best episodes, underrated
0:02 Uh Oh! Chakotay used his middle finger!
Chakotay was such a wasted character
He absolutely was not. In many episodes, he carried Janeway.
@@rasikkom9605 Robert Beltram later complained - and he wasn't wrong - that his character was abandoned by writers.
@@piotrd.4850 Totally agreed. Voyager was great, but it could have been the BEST Trek ever if the Writers had been a bit better at their jobs. More character development for Chakotay and Kim is a good start. More consistent character behaviour, instead of making the character fit the story. I respect Robert Beltran as an actor, and I feel he was perfect for this role - but as it neared the final seasons, you could tell the man lost his passion for this, which is a rotten shame.
he banged seven of nine. nothing is wasted.
Judging by how he was portrayed, I'd say the actor was wasted half the time since he had nothing to do
Thanks smiling friends, very cool
I was watching this episode and after they released the warp core I nodded off and when I opened my eyes Captain Janeway was back on Voyager and everything was fine. Will someone please tell me how they rescued the Captain Janeway?
I still love how uncaring the Doc is lol
When The Doctor impersonated Janeway he didn't check her file so as not to get caught out on details like this?
Just give her coffee to see her reaction. It worked with Dal🤣🤣🤣
The Doctor betrays the Voyager crew again. This is not the first time. He had direct orders as to what to do. You should reset it.
Loyalty on Voyager from many of the crew is pretty slack at the best of times
Janeway is fire 😎👌🏾🔥 here
doesn't anyone carry a phaser??
or shows up without security knowing the Captain isn't herself
@@darkside_xposure, As the scene began, I don't believe that he had reached the kind of definitiveness that allowed him to make such a supposition with surety.
noah simpson, Given the reality of the situation, it wouldn't have been of any use. Regardless, I think that Chakotay was as likely to have believed that this was still Janeway, but that something unexplained had effected her behavior, as that it was an impostor, at least, at the moment he entered her quarters.
Badly written. Why did he let her know that he was on to her? He could have been much more sneaky and left without her knowing a thing. 😵🙄
Because otherwise the audience wouldn't understand what's going on
@@yourstruly4817 Not to mention the fact that it was in the script that way.
@@lancer525 It was in the script that way because it was badly written.
@@exscape In your haste to look edgy and smart, you overlooked the fact that it's a television show. One that your name isn't in the credits for. I don't see you writing or contributing to any, so what gives you the right to say whether it's bad or not? It was aired, so someone smarter and better than you decided to go forth with it.
@@lancer525 Oh okay. So you're a writer, then? If not, how dare you have an opinion about this clip?
What episode is this
Renaissance Man. It's in the name of the video
I know it's the Doctor and he has like super human strength but Chakotay went down like a little bitch lmao he does quite often its so funny lol
The DR was gonna fork over the Warp Core to rescue Janeway. Idiotic plot.
Good plot, actually
Burma ?
what is the episode?
Renaissance Man. It's in the name of the video
Ok
chad
Karen :)
Eh I feel like Chakotay could overpower her.
too bad the series wasn’t made for widescreen format
give it a bit and an AI will add the missing stuff to make it super widescreen or even 360 full immersion ;-)
(see 'two minute papers' channel for examples of this)
Imagine the shock on his face when he finds out that Seven is lesbian and leaving him... All that time she was just pretending to like him.... xD
The Chakotay/Seven romance was just as unnecessarily shoehorned into the series at the last minute as the Seven/Raffi one was (and the Troi/Worf romance for that matter.) Bisexuality does exist, even if Seven never gave an indication of that in Voy. I guess what I'm saying is ST has always decided that previous character motivations don't really matter, so what would be interesting this week?
What are you talking about? Star Trek ended after ST:ENT. There hasn't been a series of it, since.
...fite me.
@@calanon534 *several people are typing*
@@calanon534 you are right. Star Trek died with cancelation of enterprise in 2005. All we got after that is some generic garbage or SF show
@@MLAGG10N3 I rather like _The Orville_ but I know Seth McFarlane hasn't got a huge attention span for single projects, so it'll be something decent that goes nowhere.
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What a wimp let that woman overpower him
That is not Janeway, but the doctor in disguise. The hologram can wield immense power and won’t be hurt even if chakotay fought back.
@David Koresh, No, he's not evil, but pretty devious, in ignoring Janeway's orders and trying to save the day.
By the way, you sure seem to have done a good job of laying low for what, nearly three decades? I know you won't reveal your secrets, but just about everyone is likely pretty curious.
@David Koresh 🤣 🤣 🤣