Introducing BitSetter - Automated Tool Length Probing for Shapeoko
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- Опубликовано: 19 дек 2019
- BitSetter brings one of the most convenient features from the Nomad, tool length probing, to the Shapeoko. Set your zero height once, and never worry about it again. If you have gcode programs that require multiple endmills to complete, BitSetter will guide you through tool changes and get you back to machining quickly and precisely.
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You guys should do an updated bitsetter video for a “step-by-step” using the new change tool button etc.
This is one of the coolest additions to the Shapeoko. Nice work C3D team!
This is a great option that I will absolutely be getting when I buy a Shapeoko XXL. The video got even better when I saw the ILTMS hoodie, love that you support makers.
I got mine the other day and used it for the first time today on my XL. It's a game changer. The integration with Carbide Motion 5 is seamless too. Great work you guys!
I have been using the BitSetter for about a week and love it. Making tool changes is now just a few seconds rather than several minutes of frustration.
Do you have the probe too? What is the sequence to set up a job. Is my sequence ok?
1) Set starting on material using the probe,
2) set bit height with bit setter,
3) run job
Thank you!
I just received mine. Easy to install and easy to use. Thank you for this time-saving option.
This is exactly what I was waiting for. Brilliant ! Thank you so much!
Great video. Loved how easy this was to install. Directions were awesome as well.
I just got mine today. It arrived about 4 days after the order. It feels solid and heavy-duty. Chamfered edges on this thing are fire. It even comes with a nonmarring plate and if you have the touch-probe it comes with a splitter hookup so you can use both.
I guess I’ll be placing an order. This is 🔥🔥🔥
Looking forward to getting this hooked up and using!! 👊
Ordered! You guys rock!
After trying three touch probes, all with the same lackluster results, I'm excited (and a little apprehensive) to give this a try.
Great addition to the portfolio!
this is awesome and has sold the deal for me to get another CNC and from carbide 3D :)
Yeah, this seems brilliant!
nice addition!
i want one so bad
best add on to the machine so far
That is so cool!! I'll be getting one!!
That's a great option! If during the bit change I bump the x/y a little will it detect and adjust that too?
It does not detect missed steps like that. If you suspect you did affect the positional accuracy of the machine you'd have to re-home. But if you do tool changes with a pair of wrenches on the spindle/collet nut, you should be able to apply a high degree of torque without lateral forces that would cause those missed steps.
you guys should just make a version the doubles as a touch probe
Excellent.
It would be super awesome if this worked with the X-Carve as well :) I know, I know, it's just software, but perhaps open sourcing the machine commands so it could be ported would be nice (unless of course you open source carbide create instead...)
In the Video, the Connector to which the end of the TLP was attached to had 3 Pins - If all of them ( V+/V-/Signal ) are required then we'll be out of luck as the X-Carve only uses a 2-Pin ( V+/V- ) for its Probe Connection.
question how bit of a dia bit can be used on the bit setter. I have a .75 dia 2 flute straight plunge bit I want to use to clear a pocket then change to a .25 dia bit to finish the pocket
I wonder if this would work with a Duet2 logicboard. looks like a really usefull product
That's awesome, funny thing is I was just starting to design something exactly like this for an ATC project I am working on for my Shapeoko
What is a ATC project??
@@ClintonCaraway Auto tool changer
I got a Bitsetter with my kit when I bought it and installed it, no problem. Issue I am having is that everytime the bit touches the magnetic disc, the magnet attaches to the bit and gets carried off. the bigger issue is when it takes the disc off, it is always slightly off center and when it goes back down, the disc cants on the edge of the socket and the reading is off. Should I glue the magnetic disk to the Bitsetter? Right now, this issue makes the tool effectively useless.
My cnc will not jog using arrows using Carbide Motion. I can use rapid jog to move it, but the arrow keys not work at all on this program. Thoughts?
Really wish this was still available for the Shapeoko 3 😬
BitSetter for Shapeoko 3 is available in our store.
How do you use BitSetter in conjunction with BitZero?
Awesome! Can you force it to probe in the middle of a program if you were to lose steps in z-height?
You can trigger a tool length probe manually outside of gcode execution, or automatically on a tool change command in gcode. You'd have to stop to program and restart it if you lost steps.
does it work for V bits?
I am so excited for this... Am I understanding it correctly, that if I let Fusion360/Carbide Create export tool paths with multiple tools in it, the M16 will automatically get added to the GCode? (and then subsequently the bit-setter will happen automatically by Motion?)
*M06, and yes. Just make sure that your tools are numbered differently, and not all "T1". If you use the tool library on our site for Fusion, or the built in Carbide Create library, you should be covered. Otherwise just double check your work.
@@carbide3d Most excellent, thank you! Sorry, I thought I heard M16 in the video, thanks for the correction.
Does this work with a V bit?
What kind of wood is that in the last scene that the clamp holder is made from?
Bamboo Plywood, same materials we clad our Nomads in.
What Shapeoko size is that?
Does the signal splitter come with the bit setter? If not where would I get it - did not see it in your store. Thx!
It is included.
Carbide 3D thx - just ordered ;)
If i'm using this in addition to a touch probe do i need to do the XYZ probe or just set the probe on top of the work piece and do the X and Y separately? I'm a little confused as to whether the Z i set with the probe overrides the bit setter.
BitSetter doesn't change how you use the touch probe or set your zero, you should continue using whatever method you're comfortable with. It just means that after you change a tool the machine will be able to bring the tip of the endmill to the same position, regardless of length.
Carbide 3D is there a documented procedure for using bitsetter and the touch probe together within a project that has a tool change? That would be very helpful.
is the Probe Adapter PCB included or sold separately?
The splitter board is included.
How does this work with a dust boot attached to the machine? Is there enough clearance to use with a boot?
As long as the endmill sticks out past the hard parts of the dust boot (brushes should be okay), it won't matter.
Does It Matter what soft ware you use to design in I use VCarve pro
Jeff
As long as the software inserts am m6 command it'll work. The default post processor that Vectric wrote will not. But someone shared one they custom modified in the forum which should work. Most other cam software should work fine. Just make sure your tools are numbered differently.
Does this work with universal g code platform?
We've engineered it to work with Carbide Motion. Technically there's no reason another Gcode sender couldn't do it, but you'd be in your own. The hardware will trigger just like any other probe, but it's up to the software to know what to do with the signals.
Hey Winston, thanks for the video on this and in using the bitsetter and the probe, where is one to place the coupling board that comes with it? There does not seem to be enough room in the control box without having it touching something else, perhaps causing a short in the circuitry. That would be a bad thing so is this small circut board to be affixed to the outside of the control box somewhere? Perhaps drill a couple of holes in the Y1 rail and screw it to the rail?
Thanks again,
David J.
The splitter board should be able to go inside the enclosure safely even if it is a little cramped., the bottom of the board is coated to prevent short circuits.
@@carbide3d Hey 3D Team, Thank you for the response and that makes me feel better being able to place the board into the enclosure without worrying about short circuits.
Kind Regards...
Vectric Software will not let you save different tools into the same gcode is my understanding - please correct me if I'm wrong. This is a great idea!
That's a limitation of the post processor that Vectric wrote. If you search on our forums, someone has modified the post processor to fix that.
@@carbide3d Can you tell me and anyone else that uses V carve Pro that want to but the bit setter where to find that post.. I would have thought that Carbide 3D would have thought to provide that info .on how to change the Gcode. There are a lot of us that have Shapeoko,s that moved on to other soft ware.
Jeff Peters
Me: I don't really change my tools THAT often..
Also me: Purchase complete!
Glad I got one before they are sold out! :)
If you are using a 2.2kw spindle wired through the control board will Carbide Motion turn off the spindle and bring it to the center for a tool change and depth probe????
I believe it will control the spindle, but still prompt you through the same steps. Default configuration for the Shapeoko assumes manual spindle control unlike the Nomad. -W
As long as you are using PWM to set the spindle speed it is always turned off when you pause, stop or complete the job. Luke has done a good video on how to set this up if you are not sure.
@@glennespie8647 Luke D'Lonra-Bonathan is walking me through the setup.
Did you wire it directly from the VFD to the controller or use a low voltage relay???
I have everything set correctly as directions say to do but after hitting resume and it goes to touch the bit setter it does not stop plunging what would be wrong?
Please send a message to support@carbide3d.com so we can help you troubleshoot.
So does it raise the spindle up high enough automatically? I was putting a small 5 second tool path outside my cutting area between tool swaps but I always had to change retract heights on my projects or it wouldn’t raise up high enough to get longer bits on/out.
Spindle will retract to the max height (minus ~5mm) for tool changes.
Does the split come when you purchase the bitsetter?
Yep.
What version of carbide motion do I need
@@JoseFlores-tq2mw For anyone asking in the future (or now) the answer is "the latest one." But at this very moment, it's build 428.
Does this work with a dust boot
yes it is set up to clear the bracket
In the video I did not see you using anything other than an EM changing' will it do v bits form tool bits straight 2 flute router bits.
It will work for any tool that will hit the probe. I've used it with up to a 1" surfacing bit, but some larger diameter tools (particularly with inserts) may miss the button.
@@carbide3d Is there a way to tell the SO3 to NOT use the bit setter, for when we're using a bit that won't hit it properly (spoil board surfacing bit comes to mind)?
Since Christmas, I've added the XL upgrade, HDZ, touch probe, and now this one will be arriving today. The upgrades have taken an already amazing machine to a whole new level.
@@SysadminsWithGuns You can go into the settings tab in CM and uncheck use of the bitsetter. Make sure you manually set your zero height after doing that though, because the Z-offset CM stores may be deleted and throw off your heights. Also, write down your coordinates for the bit setter to make it easier when you turn it back on. (I keep them on a piece of masking tape I stuck to the back of the bit setter.)
Has anyone run into a problem where the bit setter is measuring too low? For example, I used the touch probe to set the z height which comes out at 31mm, then I started my program, installed the correct tool, it measures the tool length but when I went to verify the height of the tool it is 5mm lower than what Carbide Motion is showing me. It has happened multiple times where I plunge that extra 5mm and start cutting. Any help would be appreciated.
Please send us an email at support@carbide3d.com so we can help you figure it out.
@@carbide3d Thanks! I will today.
Will this work with CNCjs too
Theoretically, yes. Any gcode sender/controller that can register a probe input can utilize the BitSetter. But you're on your own regarding configuring the software/macros/offsets.
what is the difference between this and the touch probe? can they do the same things? what do they do different?
They do very different things. Touch probe helps you find a zero point. BitSetter compensates for different tool lengths so you don’t have to find the zero height every time you load a new tool. Technically, you could just manually use the touch probe after every single tool change, but that doesn’t work if your reference surface has been machined away or something.
@@thesingulardank Touch probe will be in stock when production allows, best to sign up for an email notification for availability.
@@carbide3d What exactly does that mean
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It is possible to run the cnc without the bit setter?
Yes
@@carbide3d how? I am breaking v bits when I use the bit setter in my nomad 3 support don’t answer my mails just a little help or if you have a video send me the link.
The Shapeoko can be run without the Bitsetter. The NOMAD cannot.
Under what name did you reach out to support?
@@carbide3d ok thanks Christy jewelry
You sound just like Winston Moy.
What model cnc is this?
That would be the Shapeoko 3.
Carbide 3D is it the “little” model??
Yep, standard size.
And......you got my $$$.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! Sorry, that was rude... buying this ASAP.
I'm at my Shapeoko now working with a 1/4"->1/8"->1/16" set of toolpaths to rough and refine the detail on a sign project. And now you tell me I could've had it all in one go? Bah!
1:17 is a tongue twister for those who learned English as second language.