Genes, Race, and History with Razib Khan
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- My guest today is Razib Khan. Razib is a population geneticist, writer, and entrepreneur. He is a prominent voice in the realm of genetic genealogy, where he illuminates the interplay of genes, history, and culture. His writing has been featured in the New York Times, India Today, the National Review, and his scholarly work is cited in many scientific journals. Razib also has a very interesting Substack called "Unsupervised Learning".
In this episode, we talk about commercial genetic testing companies like 23andMe. We talk about the genetic histories of regions like Russia, China, Ashkenazis and Madagasy. We also talk about the Indo-Aryan connection. We talk about whether race is a social construct. We discuss the concept of epigenetics and so-called inherited trauma. We talk about what Cleopatra really looked like and more. I hope you all enjoyed this conversation as much as I did.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:06:06 Debunking the Idea that Modern Greeks are not Descendants of Ancient Greeks
00:10:08 Unlocking the Secrets of Madagascar's Mysterious Origins Through Genomics
00:17:18 Unlocking the Secrets of Ancestry
00:24:06 Unraveling Ancestry: How Recombination Events Reveal the Timelines of Genetic Mixtures
00:32:40 The Heritability of Personality: Why It's Not as Simple as You Think
00:35:21 The Dark History of Gene Editing: How CRISPR Cast Brings Hope and Fear to the Future
00:44:42 Exploring the Social and Biological Realities of Race: A Conversation with Razib Khan
00:50:03 Why Race is a Social Construct
00:59:15 Why Germans Are Not a Natural Genetic Cluster
01:01:54 The Surprising Link Between Eastern Europe and India's Jots
01:07:58 The Shocking Truth About Europe's First Farmers
01:11:58 The Fascinating Origins of India's Indigenous People
01:13:31 The Truth About Ancestry: Debunking Myths of Migration and Descent in Europe, India, and China
01:18:59 Why Accurate Representation Matters: The Importance of Casting Actors Who Look Like the Characters They Portray
01:20:56 Why the Controversy Over Queen Charlotte's Race is Just a Distraction from Real History
01:22:44 The Truth Matters: How Ideology and Coalitions Can Distort History and Science - Lessons from COVID and India
01:27:29 The Evolution of Science: A Look at How Truth Prevails Over Time
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What a great guy! You can just feel his immense enthusiasm for genetics. He's like an overstimulated child talking about what he saw at the circus.
Yeah, fascinating stuff. I know a lot of this stuff from study in a galaxy far, far away, haha, but he goes deep and puts the ideas together in an interesting way. Definitely going to check out his articles (although Coleman's right... a book is in order, lol).
@@brek5 He's got two RUclips channels which I am just getting started on. Steven Pinker and Glenn Lowry are both his guests (on different videos).
@@pjacobsen1000 Thanks for the heads-up on 2 channels. I just subscribed to the one and was going to check out the Pinker interview. Will have to find the other one as well. Fascinating stuff.
@@brek5 Be aware that just like here with Coleman Hughes, he's a 'long talker'. But as long as he's interesting, it's fine with me.
I listen to most interview podcast in 1,5 - 2 playback speed, I didn't need to listening to this pod!
This is a fascinating interview. Great job as usual, Coleman 👏
except for the gross slurping.
I enjoyed the conversation, however please turn the mics off while drinking and sniffling. I found the sound effects extremely distracting.
It was too much! Lol yea yea mmmhmm yea yea! Sorry love the talk but the extra stuff hurts the twlk
That's why many podcasters have that extra screen. There are also digital mics that can filter things out, but that's some pretty pricey equipment.
The natural fidelity of sound, though, does make it feel like more of a conversation than a TED talk.
Long time Razib stan here! He's probably the best public figure that has both an exhaustive expertise in both genetics and history. His Substack is well worth subbing to. Most of essays combines these two disicpines into very compelling narratives.
lol no where close to the best, but one of sure.
"You are a very genetically complex person."
"Thank you, Razib."
Love you, Coleman.
yup. that's what they said
This was such a great discussion.
This explains why my German husband with all German grandparents had zero German genetics. His results came back as geographically from all around Germany, north, west, south and East. He is basically all of Europe!
Most East Germans are basically Slavic. It's kinda funny cause when you look at a map of the old Soviet Union and it's East European satellites, and you sought to unite the Slavic world, like a prophecy, in a very real sense, with the exception of Yugoslavia, that was done from 1945 til 1991. I believe even the German capitol city of Berlin is a derivative of the Slavic language. The Nazis went through great lengths to hide the Slavic reality of eastern Germany. Austria is also considered East European, and once formed the Austria-Hungary nation. It's an interesting study indeed.
@@doubleutee2100 the fact that Germany is so disparate with its regions and dialects to this day proves how the Nazis were trying to unite a people that really weren’t a people at all. Germany is just a patchwork of regions of former mini kingdoms
@@scarba Apparently, quite true indeed!
I recall that Nazi archaeologists uncovered a Neolithic village that was much more sophisticated than they had expected for such an ancient site - it was built in artificially raised land in a marshy area, with a planned street grid, paved with logs, timber houses, surrounded by a timber wall. The find was trumpeted as evidence of German superiority, but continuing work revealed artifacts that unequivocally identified the site as being from a Slavic culture. The Nazis just suppressed the latest findings and stopped talking about the site.
What Khan said about Germany was very broad and simple. There is a core German DNA. Northern Germans, for instance, are more Scandinavian-shifted than Southern Germans, owing to strong Celtic admixture in the latter. Many people are unaware that not every local German is a native. Many Germans are descendant of assimilated immigrants from Poland, Russia, and other regions of Europe, so German by culture. However, this does not negate the fact that a core Germanic ancestry exists throughout Germany.
I watched this because you had Razib Khan on. I read everything he puts out. Thanks for the interview, and now I'm a subscriber to this series as well.
This was fascinating indeed! Great guest! Would love to see Coleman do more like this.
Great conversation!
One (small) point: every time Coleman takes a drink, I can hear him slurping and swallowing!
Razib is like a professor for the masses. Great video.
Isaac Asimov sideburns are DOPE 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Huge fan of Razib for quite some time! His content has been mostly paywalled for a while, but now I know it's because it's worth paying for! Subscribing to the substack today!!
I wish people in the sciences/social science were simply matter of fact about things like this guy, great episode
But then they cant pretend that bwacks are equal
@@notallowedtobehonest2539 I guess the persons most qualified to determine ethnicity and other human characteristics are actually not pretending
@@lapis.lazuli. qualified by who?
@@notallowedtobehonest2539 related institutions of learning
@@notallowedtobehonest2539 No group is equal.
It's refreshing to know there are still ppl who rely on the data in conjunction with external data and aren't biased, also willing to say the work is on going there a particular conclusion should not be assumed...love razib haha
So informative! Looking forward to learning more.
Population genetics can also have important implications for medicine. Shouldn’t be brushed under the rug to appease ideology.
Absolutely 👍
And yet it will be brushed under the rug, at everyone's expense.
Of course that shouldn’t. Genetics are very real. That doesn’t make the arbitrary constructs we have of “race” real though.
@@jordandthornburg They're not totally arbitrary. They're based on appearance wich correlates with genetics to a very high degree. Race is very real and important when building a society.
@@overtonpendulum2071 they’re mostly arbitrary. When you see a person with a “white” mother and a “black” father and they’re considered “black” it is clear it is mostly arbitrary. Of course different skin tones exist. No one disputes that. How does that correlate to the categories of “race” that we have created?
Wow, really a fantastic and obviously extremely intelligent guest. Very interesting discussion. Thanks, Coleman!
This is the most interesting talk Ive listened to this year. What an amazing conversation.
Wow, that was really good. Thanks for finding these interesting people.
Thanks, Coleman. I have watched 7-8K conversations on RUclips in the past 5 years and this was as good as almost any. Razib Khan is that happiest of men, The Happy Warrior.
i like this phrase, where's it from ?
Razib is so frank and open I wonder if not being "white" frees him up in a genetic discussion not available to many others.
as a fellow from the sub-continent, I also get that pass when talking about race.
You'd think so, but apparently he was cancelled as a recent hire for The New York Times when certain progressive activists started digging into his work and posts and found all sorts of "offensive" subject matter on race and genetics.
NYT of course caved and let him go.
@@pacifront83same.
Can you define who is "white"? Do we mean "European"?
@@johnkatsaros7340 Who else is considered white LOL
As a Jat from Rajasthan I can confirm about our steppe ancestry and according to DNA reports available publicly percentage of steppe is 40 percent among the Jats of Haryana/Rajasthan/UP due to less mixing
What is your proof that you have steppe ancestory?
Nonsense.
@@umax870 Why is nonsense? is hurting your feelings?
He said Queen Charlotte is not important.
Meanwhile: We named an entire major American City after her.
Queen Charlotte Islands archipelago in BC Canada. Yes she was important.
She just looks Portuguese, but even if her great great great great grandmother was of SSA origin , she would be what,1% and MTDA recombines with 50/50 in every child, so it’s more difficult to track. What deep ancestry has taught us today, that you are the seed of your father because 100% passes down in men each time in only males.
One thing we know for certain though, lookership is not a dependable or accurate method to measure ancestry.
North Africans are still a Caucasiod people and have been for 40k+ years because that’s where the root came from.
There is no single point of human origin. They evolved in different parts of the African continent. We also have Peking Man who is far older than the modern human remains we found in Africa.
The models have not been updated.
It’s funny you’re mentioning that north africans are caucasoid meanwhile they’re from the same lineage as Somali and Ethiopian peoples. They’ve had alot of admixture from coming from Europe. That's why lot's of them come with white skin. meanwhile 3000 years ago north africans looked closer to Somali and had dark skin, like southerners from india still do. But I agree that horners and north africans share a common ancestor with Europeans.
Perhaps you associate "keen" features with "caucasoids" if I'm not mistaken?
@@lazairance Caucasiods have always been in the Levant & North Africa because that’s where they came from.
That’s been proven genetically over and over again.
Also Natufians have a WHG component.
12k years ago there were waves of Back to Africa Migrations from Eurasia during the Neolithic Revolution as well.
@@acaydia2982 they came from the horn* The ethiopians and somali NEVER left the continent. They’re genetically the same as 10000 yrs ago. And them migrations back into Africa aren’t actually proven their just hypothesis.
Even with genetics too, it's hard to figure out phenotype sometimes. Having a "black" doesn't mean someone would look remotely black African. Like Coleman I'm a mixed Puerto Rican (23% Sub Saharan African, 70% European and 7% Native American) and I look like some random guido from Queens.
Came to say exactly this. Well said.
If your mixed, your not black
He’s not a mixed Puerto Rican though. He’s mom is the mixed Puerto Rican who’s mostly Europeans & native. He’s dad is American who’s mostly of African ancestry with a small % of European. He looks “black” because more than half of his ancestry is.
You look like a random guido because you’re mostly white with ancestry probability from southern Europe. Makes perfect sense!
@@melissasimmons3222 When I'm saying Mixed Puerto Rican I mean he's not fully Puerto Rican. Hope this helps clarify my comment.
I wonder how you get the 7% Native American figure, is that through an ancestor of North American Indian descent, or through the Puerto Rican (Carib/Taino?) ancestor? Native American ancestry can’t be identified from DNA testing because the Nations generally boycott contributing to those databases.
This episode was a mind blow. The guest is next level brilliant. I was so stimulated during the entire conversation and carried away in the things the guest was saying that Coleman caught me off guard with the most incredible thing that has happened to me. Driving while listening to this episode, I almost wrecked with laughter when Coleman pulled the most hilarious comment in all podcast history. That line about comparing himself to Obama and Elizabeth Warren almost had me in a wreck because of the convulsive and hysterical laugh that I uncontrollably found myself in. I was helpless against that quip. Never ever in all podcast listening history have I been so caught off guard and had laughter erupt out of me like a volcano. It was pure brilliance. I was so caught off guard. Master piece from start to finish. I will listen to this at least 3 more times.
This is what interviews with a scientist used to look like. 'Here's what we've discovered. It's really interesting. This is how we know it's true, to the extent that it's the best model representing reality that we've come up with so far.' Brush of the silly stuff gently but firmly. No time wasted placating idiots, deal with falsifiable, testable theory only. I suppose that is mind blowing today, and that is indescribably sad.
Fascinating conversation. Nice to see the speaker so passionate about his expertise. I'm still researching about my own family tree 🌴in The Seychelles. My mother Chinese / African and my father French /Portuguese. It would be great to have a conversation with Razib Khan.
This was really entertaining!!
I started off thinking “I’m not going to warm to this guy!” Then we got into the possibility of genomic eradication of hereditary disease - and I liked him even less. (Probably because I misinterpreted what he was setting out?)
But then he got into broad-sweep genomic analysis - and, Wow! - how utterly fascinating was that.
Thanks to both of you for a REALLY interesting conversation !!
Razib needs to write a book! That was fascinating 😮
This was so incredibly interesting. It’s been a long time since I learnt so much in one single podcast. Well done to Coleman and Razib for producing such a thoughtful and insightful conversation 👏👏👏
Wow. Really greatful for this podcast! Excellent job.
This was a pretty interesting conversation but in my personal opinion I would have liked to hear more about the genetic makeup and history of Africa and Africans outside of the surface level Cleopatra conversation. I think African history, culture and genetics is very misunderstood sometimes even intentionally. An episode covering Cushitic ancestry. Ta-Seti civilization and the Nabta Playa herders would be interesting.
Do it yourself?
@@total_leftie I'm not a geneticist I'm an Aerospace engineer with an affinity for African history. They spent a lot of time talking about Cleopatra and how those islanders were not Africans instead of discussing what is measurably the most genetically diverse people on the face of the planet. That's why I'm asking
@@themac9677 if you want to direct the questions you're gonna need to do it yourself, is what i'm saying. coleman will have the questions he is interested in hearing answers to, i will have mine, you will have yours.
@@total_leftie No I understand that. What I'm saying is throughout the interview they spent a majority of their time talking about people who are not Africans and no time talking about who African people actually are. If you're going to talk about the human genome and not enter Africa into the conversation it's just a little bit superficial and that's whether I'm asking the questions or not. Kind of like talking about Americas fight for independence but skipping over the revolutionary war
@@themac9677 i don't really understand why it is superficial to specialise in particular areas. perhaps razib has purposefully chose to leave certain areas because you can catch heat for saying things that people don't want to accept. i haven't watched the whole thing so i will admit am finding it difficult to grasp your point entirely, but i don't think it's a requirement of anyone to have to speak about anything, and quite the contrary, when people are more zoned in they tend to be more accurate - rather than the jack of all trade types.
Razib seemingly has no social filter! I kinda appreciate that. A lot of this was roughly familiar to me from the published work and discussion of David Reich and others much more guarded in their assertions... Which I appreciate, but for me it's kinda beautiful to see the social filters mostly off. As is always the case with science discovery, it's probably 50% to 33% right/wrong... but the filtering is "concerning"???
Honestly I don't have a strong opinion...
Thanks for this brilliant conversation. You have earned yourself a new subscriber . Keep up the good work .
Great guest! Such a fascinating and important topic, I truly loved the conversation from both of you. And very cool hair Razib!
It seems they’ve consistently left out who certain people are and the fact the missing fact is AFRICA and Africans. However, I learned a lot.
Good interview. Coleman may need to investigate ways to improve his sound quality. Picking up on a few very distracting sounds throughout. Less sensitivity on the mic perhaps
This is a very interesting conversation. Thank you so much for posting this.
I wish you would take small clips and posted. This is a very dense topic, but very interesting.
This episode was the first one I had to slow down the playback speed 🤣. This info was beyond me.
How old is this dude? His voice sounds 22 but his hair looks 63!
It's called Gen X. We're getting old (oldest almost 60), but we still speak as we always did (as did every other generation before us).
Sounds like he's 14
😂 And his face looks 38
@@mtsjunglesthat’s south Asian men for you, even African men look somewhat attractive
Long-time CWC supporter and fan. This was definitely a great one. GJ to both of you guys!
corded ware culture?
@@razibkhansunsupervisedlearning Haha, no. Although the corded ware people almost certainly contributed to my "23 & Me" profile, I meant Conversations With Coleman. ;)
I have to do a lot of census data mining for my job and usually have to read the questions on the census itself to be able to interpret the data properly. The 1930 census was the first time that "Indian, Chinese, Japanese, or other race" showed up. 1940 and 1950 was "white, black, other." 1960 had white, black, and then it had Puerto Rican or Spanish surname and then also broke Puerto Ricans down into white and nonwhite. It also had boxes for Indian, Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, other races. Asian & Pacific Islander didn't show up until 1980. The way that these questions wind up on the census is there a political and it's usually from pressure from interest groups. In the case of Spanish surname, Hispanic, Asian and Pacific islander showing up on the census, it's because those groups were pressuring Congress to put it on there. It's some of the terms are relics from the 19th century but but they do change with whatever the PC term of the time is. There's also a lot more fine detail that gets collected in the Census American community survey that we don't really have access to from 100 years ago. Like I can zoom in to a zip code and see how many Hispanics live there, and then among those I can see how many Puerto Ricans, hiw many Cubans, Venezuelans, Salvadorans, etc. I guess what I'm saying is, to the extent that race is a social construct, the census is just using it in the way that it's understood at the time, or at least in the way that it's being pressured to understand it.
I listened to this on .75x speed and it was much more pleasant (bc this guy talks very fast and doesn’t always finish his sentences, so it takes a little extra focus).
Funny, I listened at 1.75×
He's like the Indian version of Ben Shapiro.
@@mordechaistein oh gosh I wish but he follows Freddie DeBoer who is such a Jew hater it gives me ~shivers~
@lorileifer613 That is troubling to hear. I was just referring though to the fast speech, though it would be nice if his values were good as well.
My new favorite interview! THANK YOU
Agreed. Very interesting and well done.
This is so amazing! Razib Khan has so much information he should write a book too. Definitely going to his website/blog. His reading list on Goodreads is over 1400 books as well. I’m definitely looking up more pics of him 🔥
Excellent episode.
Razib's knowledge is fascinating.
8:14 Razib Khan: "The Avar Empire, the Avars were Turks"
The Avars were not at all the same in origin. The Turkic Ogurs were considered to be "Pseudo-Avars".
Ancient genomes reveal origin and rapid trans-Eurasian migration of 7th century Avar elites
"However, the texts do not agree on who these Avars were, or where exactly they came from. In fact, the Turks claimed that they were only Pseudo-Avars who had appropriated the prestigious name Avars and the lofty title of khagan but were in reality Ogurs, a Turkic-speaking people in western Central Eurasia. While we can conclude that the Rouran most likely called themselves Avars, to what extent the European Avars were descended from them has been debated (Dobrovits, 2003; Pohl, 2018)."
"Our results provide robust genetic support for the Northeast Asian ancestry of the Avar-period elite in the core region of the Avar empire (DTI) from the middle third of the 7th CE to the early 8th CE Carpathian Basin (early to middle Avar period). We show a striking genetic match with a Rouran-period individual as well as with ancient individuals from Xiongnu and especially Xianbei periods from the eastern Asian steppe. During the late Avar period, we observe a shift among the elite in the Avar core area toward a more recently admixed ancestry. Even if late Avar individuals still preserve a predominant northern East Asian component, the western Eurasian source that best fits the remaining 20%-30% of their ancestry is mostly a non-local one (i.e., it does not match the gene pools of the available preceding Carpathian Basin populations)."
Really hoping he writes a book someday
Here I am, listening to this episode again bc it’s so damn interesting and honest and it’s so clear that they both have sincere motives to help everyone. The BEST! Thanks again!
This guy was actually really interesting to listen to, I would love to watch more about him explaining the ancestral makeup of different ethnic groups.
he start his own university, his podcasts are endlessly fascinating! makes me want to get back into anthropology
Razib is scary special, very impressive. I struggled to keep up.
Razib is much larger than I thought hed be
Right. I’m shocked
He's built like a Steppe Conqueror.
@@nenirouvelliv nope, iindian's do not have have r1b haplogroup so they r not european they have only r1a haplogroup whereas european have both r1a ( origin around 20000-25000bce) and r1b( 12000-18000bce )..... so that's mean they were same people before ice age and yamnaya people had r1a and r1b whereas jaat of iindia do not have r1b......
@@urrasscal8380 The steppe element in Indians is descended from a very specific subset of steppe-herders, the Andronovo people, who were mostly r1a. R1b was probably present only in the westermost steppe tribes that became the ancestors of the Bell-Beakers. The pre-IE Harappans were mostly R2 and L1 lineages, mix of indus valley farmers and proto-dravidan tribes.
Or is Coleman just smaller?
What a terrific and important interview. I'm incredibly impressed with both Coleman and Razib. Coleman, please have Razib on again so he can talk about other ethnicities and other related subjects Razib deep dives into. If I took a DNA history test I'd be one of those who wanted to know if a higher % of my DNA came from a Central Asian grain farmer versus an Irish sheep herder.
Thanks for this Coleman. I’ve been trying to sharpen my take on this from a more scientific end.
Biggups to Razib! I love his work. If you’re interested in human prehistory his podcast and Substack are really worth diving into
Love this topic. Love you, Coleman. Piece of constructive criticism: nasal sounds and clearing of mucus sounds in the mic aren’t conducive to focusing on what the guest is sharing. Oh, and the loud beverage slurping and nasal passage clearing…
He has hay fever like "allergies" that's where the nasal/ mucus sounds comes from. Not easy to mask.
Very good episode, excellent guest. Now have to read his Substack!
Where can I get whole genome sequenced for $200?
This was amazing an amazing discussion. Quite insightful.
Great interview. You can tell Razib is passionate and knows his stuff about genetics and archaeogenetics. Interesting how he brought up Indo European mixing with the Mitanni in northern Syria and how their Charioteers were Indo-European, these does not seem to have had an impact on their language, as Hurrian is a language isolate.
And yes, modern Egyptians are the descendants of Ancient Egyptians.
In part
Who the heck thinks modern Egyptians aren’t the descendants of ancient Egyptians?
@@jujutrini8412 Clearly you haven't met any black american afrocentrics.
@@jujutrini8412 As Lucid said, afrocentrists or hotep types.
@@jujutrini8412 Jada Pinkett Smith
Great podcast. I find this stuff so fascinating
Brilliant discussion. Half way through and absolutely fascinating 👏
Coleman loudly slurping and swallowing his drink in the background.
One of the most fascinating talks Coleman's done. Razib is on fire!. Boggles the mind.
phenomenal conversation
Great podcast, had to listen over a period of time but worth finishing
Omg the slurping 😂 Coleman!!!
Dang this was a good one! I rarely make time to listen to hr+ conversations and this one of those rarities.
Show should be retitled _Get Canceled with Coleman_
Wow, this is absolutely fascinating. I love studying why certain ethnicities look the way they do.
David Wright how we got there book
I was just thinking about Razib and out of nowhere this gold nugget drops on my lap, fantastic!
manifesting
need to calibrate microphones for different guests as this learned gentleman has a very high and pitchy voice
Another great guest with no pc filter and lots of interesting things to say.
Love to see the corroboration of conclusions drawn from the area of historical linguistics using modern population genetics! I known linguists who with population geneticists in places where creoles have developed through Atlantic triangular trade, and using genetics in tandem with linguistics has helped their team figure out which varieties of the creole preserve the most traits of the earlier forms of creole. Amazing collaborative work!
If only the person handling the sound would mute the mic when someone takes a drink. Or, simply PUSH THE MIC AWAY as you take a drink. Seems pretty simple.
The bits of conversation I could hear between Coleman’s many loud sniffs, sips, and gulps was great!
Very true, I almost had to stop but persevered and the sounds seemed to be less of a thing...
I just said the same thing. How annoying. I've remarked previously as well. No professional interviewer does this. He sounds like an animal.
He obviously doesn't know it's being heard. Hopefully he will read these comments cos I'm stopping now
Funny...
Though I can notice it if promoted, it didn't draw my attention while listening, and I certainly wasn't bothered by it. Think it might be one of those things that's just an unchosen human variability... genetic or environmental??
Anyway...
Since some significant portions of listeners are affected... maybe he could just get a good copy of some digital audio cleanup software and run it through as standard practice.
I've found that even running it in auto mode makes massive improvements, but perhaps not enough for those more sensitive. Obviously he's not able to retain pro sound engineering at this point. We've all gotten used to the big studio operation production standards, which small operations, even with today's technology assists are difficult to replicate.
This guy is all sooooo clever , his knowledge and remembrance of all the facts is outstanding, I can't even remember what exact ages my kids are without thinking about it.
I have one kid…. And I have to ask my ex wife how old he is some years. I actually forget my own age sometimes.
It’s called autism.
I like how fast and articulately Razib talks. Super interesting podcast!
super interesting stuff! as someone doing lots of similar data stuff, i may need to look into that field
Irrational fear of vaccines?
This was great! Wish you asked about IQ
That’s a pretty boring question though. Most of that us general knowledge lol
IQ ....is a social construct
@@toddmaek5436hahahahahah😂
race differences in IQ is total taboo for obvious reasons
@@toddmaek5436 🤣
Great conversation... but what exactly do you mean by "public speaking"?
this guy is confirming everything people argued with me about - but everything i studied about dna tracing and ad mixture. good find
I'm from Europe. I've encountered the term "Caucasian" in the past and have always wondered what it meant, why the sudden interest in the Caucasus. That it is a term for white people has only now dawned on me.
Anyway, then - the moment when Coleman has to prove the existence of women as a biological sex... I, for one, was prepared to "respect" the consensus that there is a biological sex and then that "gender" (even though I have my doubts about that - but I don't know about it, so just "ok"). But this next phase, where "ok, gender ... we agree on that. Now let's abolish the biological part altogether".
And I don't blame Coleman for that - but that he feels the need to preemptively defend himself and summarize his arguments for the existence of gender is sad enough.
Razib always cracks me up when I listen to him - but seeing his eccentric self in full HD is just too much ;)
I tried to focus, but I was too distracted by the slurping, gulping, and sniffing. Can someone recommend another of his conversations or lectures?
Hey @coleman Hughes, we can hear you sniffing and drinking 😅 otherwise great interview
Coleman, you're great, but if there's any way you could mike yourself so that we don't hear your loud slurping as your guest speaks, I, and those similarly afflicted with misophonia, would be extremely grateful.
Thank you so much! I scrolled through the comments, hoping someone else had mentioned this.
Sadly, I only got about ten minutes in, and had to stop.
The sniffing was doing my head in, too.
this sounded like that one goon student from a video in a collage debate expecting everyone to "respect" him by demanding them to shut up
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Its incredible that someone would decide to host a podcast and make such an annoyingly basic technical flaw.
My son has that misophonia, bad. Only time he was fearless talking to me, was chewing in his ear by accident. I almost killed him, but I'm not sure he wouldn't of killed me first. I can understand the being annoyed, even somewhat extremely annoyed, but my son gets violently annoyed. Calm tf down
I addicted to your show Colman. Fascinating topic
Great episode, really interesting stuff
Given the mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosome DNA tracking directly, I would be very interested to see independent genetic studies of the proportion of American Black DNA that is Irish on the mother's lineage vs fathers lineage. Might be an absolutely ground shaking chunk of data there.
The Bantu expansion, in many ways, parralels Indo European expansion. I think if more people understood this then we'd have a more intelligent conversation about "race" and culture. Today many people, across Eurasia, South Asia, North Africa and the Americas have some amount of Indo European lineage and if you can understand this conversation then you are, at least partly, Indo European culturally. This has been a dumb taboo to talk about since WWII but we need to have these conversations, especially as Americans.
Good luck with that. The establishment will never allow it.
@@avengemybreath3084 Thanks, I'll need it. One things that's kind of funny is that the "Aryans" got their asses kicked by guys with names like Yeager, Eisenhower and MacArthur. People need to lighten up about this stuff.
@@S.J.L Agree completely, although Razib, being south Asian, has more right to call himself Aryan than any German.
I wholeheartedly agree these conversations are desperately needed, but the establishment benefits too greatly from the stilted, and false, narratives around race that have been used to divide all of us.
They won't let the facts get in the way of their "divide and conquer" programming.
It’s amazing how genetics have exposed this.
Bantu soeaking people are not the only black Africans and I don’t know why you’re identifying a language group as a race in the first place.
I started listening to this in the car then was watching it once I got home. It was not expecting the Bengali Ringo Starr.
Awesome guest … hope you have this guy on again
Great show. Pls stop sipping coffee on mic
wow, the 30% that I understood was really fascinating, thank you!
Were your grandparents from Luissa (sp) puerto Rico?
Terrific conversation. Really enjoyed it!
I subscribed to Razib Khan's sub stack. His articles were so full of unexplained jargon and demanded so much prior knowledge that I only understood about ten percent of it.
So I didn't renew my subscription.
If you subscribe, good luck.
You must be subscribed to a different substack. His pieces are very accessible
@@pathologicaldoubt Lol dude he literally just tweeted about how he's not trying to make his pieces extra ingestible and knows he's writing for a smaller slice that can grok the meaty subjects he's talking about.
I started subscribing to his Substack about two years ago with almost no higher education in the hard sciences and I found it to be really helpful in understanding such an incredibly complex field as population genetics. I think if you are someone who is curious about human history deep into the past it is well worth the price. His writing is dense with information but it’s a rewarding read every time. There’s really no one doing quite what he’s doing in the way that he’s doing it rn, it’s cool to see him getting the exposure:)