So in short, what most Tomb Raider games rely on is exploration and platforming, 2013 takes a step back and limits these core elements, replacing them with bland third person cover-shooting, and a lot of heavily scripted and contrived action sequences that feel closer to interactive cutscenes... whether that's good or bad for the franchise, it's up to you to decide.
Maybe so, but this TR was the first one that was good, even great after ps1 titles. It was a fresh breath of air after so many fails in the franchise. Story-wise, who is playing TR for the story?
@@FoggyProductionsmajority of tomb raider games are critically acclaimed And the series is @ 95 million units sold currently holding the most successful video game franchise with a female lead (held that record since the exact date of November 5th 1997 per Core design documentation) (G4 icons Lara Croft documentary gave us the number when tomb raider 1 and 2 beat Metroid sales for this record that she now holds and Guinness acknowledges on their website) So to suggest tomb raider has “had many fails” when it’s been such a massive and the ONLY successful female lead video game franchise spawning comics, toys, two successful live action movies (in which paramount confirmed cradle of life was successful enough to get a sequel but Angelina didn’t want to keep doing tomb raider movies she was happy with cradle of life) Likeee honey you know your talking about TOMB RAIDER? Right? Do your research before talking. Reboot era just added to tomb raider’s already iconic resume,
@@FoggyProductionsand if you go on metacritic techincally tr1 from 1996 was the only one to get a 91 score soo. But their is no need to put Lara’s against eachother when their literally unifying the survivor trilogy with all the other games to make one Lara and one timeline. Get ready for her duals and acrobatics for the next game (:! As it takes place after tomb raider underworld The sequel to shadow of the tomb raider is officially tomb raider 1-3 remastered per crystal dynamics (:!
@@TombRaider_Remastered what are you talking about exactly? I was refering to couple of titles in between the ps1 titles and last trilogy games - out of which the first one was my favourite. What does the sales number say about the quality exactly?
@@gamervet4760 Well, 2013 is restart of Tomb Raider (which isn´t much Tomb Raider), and look at TR 1 - 3. Damn, those places turned into giant graveyards! And yup, they don´t know what to do with money and do insane things! xD
There's definitely a lot of problems with this game. "Oh no, killing is so hard, I'm so torn" _five minutes later_ "This bow works wonders for murdering!". Lara also became really whiny, complaining at every little thing. Also the constant scenes where everything topples around her like a stack of dominos was just so ridiculous. You could tell just from looking that there was going be some silly bombastic "press X to not die" sequence about to happen. Also I'm convinced she died when she first got impaled and has just been a revenant since then in the remaining parts of the trilogy.
I agree that it's not a tomb raider game. It's an entertaining game to play, and I enjoyed it, but it's not Tomb Raider. Interesting point to note: the sales of the 1st (1996) and 2nd (1997) original games totalled roughly $14 million and $13 million respectively when adjusted for inflation, so they still did the same or better as the newer games
Well if you lay it like that, then yeah. Those two originals probably generated more money since the 60$ price tag didn't change for decades. And 60$ back then was way expensive than 60$ now
I agree. On the one hand, she is so insecure, on the other hand she can perform a cauterization on herself just like that.. That's not very convincing for me
I agree. My brother played it, loved it, and recommended it. I bought it dirt cheap with all the DLC. I finished it in 2 days because the gameplay was stupid easy. So were the puzzles, and I was playing on the hardest difficulty. I didn't like the story and the fact that they had to kill her white mentor in order to teach her a lesson she had already learned. At the beginning of the game. It's okay, though. She got his pistols!
1:45 Not really. I was born in 86 and gave a lot of the new games a fair shake. You're absolutely right to gate keep certain things. There are certain criteria that are hard baked into game franchises. Like Banjo and Kazooie. Completely changed the franchise from its criteria, and it flopped, and rightfully so. I'm not a Banjo and Kazooie fan, btw. Just figured I'd make it my example.
it's a fun game and that's why it sells better but is it really a tomb raider game?? it's not to most of the fans and you are right about everything you've said.. what makes tomb raider game a tomb raider game is the tombs the atmosphere the loneliness.. damn even the colors where vibrant back in the day.. my experience was the same when I first played it and I really thought this was a random game that the seller used the tomb raider name on it to trick me
It's a good game but it doesn't feel like Tomb Raider to me. I did enjoy it and complete it though. I wanted raiding of Tombs and that wasn't much in it... like the start of Raiders of the Lost Ark. And you can't always explore, I wanted to explore the Big Haunted Fortress but you're not allowed to. If you could try but you get killed I think it's better than just not letting you at all.
While I enjoyed this game a lot, I agree in a heartbeat that it is not Tomb Raider, except for some moments here and there. And I was thinking all this time it is normal she is not badass here in her first adventure, which you summarily debunked by showing the classic 16 years old Lara's behavior lol.
Glad that TR is a franchise that can evolve and try different things. Want a dungeon crawler? play Temple of Osiris. Want a board game puzzle aesthetic? Lara Croft Go? Want to wash her house? Power Wash Simulator. If we can call Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness a real game then Tomb Raider 2013 is one too.
TRAOD clears the whole 2013 reboot, cause it actually IS a tomb raider game. There was more tomb raiding in AOD than in the reboot. Whereas they were only optional🤡
Tomb Raider 2013 is not a bad game. It's just not a good Tomb Raider game. It abandons literally all of the series strengths except the movement of Lara.
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So in short, what most Tomb Raider games rely on is exploration and platforming, 2013 takes a step back and limits these core elements, replacing them with bland third person cover-shooting, and a lot of heavily scripted and contrived action sequences that feel closer to interactive cutscenes... whether that's good or bad for the franchise, it's up to you to decide.
Maybe so, but this TR was the first one that was good, even great after ps1 titles. It was a fresh breath of air after so many fails in the franchise. Story-wise, who is playing TR for the story?
@@FoggyProductionsmajority of tomb raider games are critically acclaimed
And the series is @ 95 million units sold currently holding the most successful video game franchise with a female lead (held that record since the exact date of November 5th 1997 per Core design documentation) (G4 icons Lara Croft documentary gave us the number when tomb raider 1 and 2 beat Metroid sales for this record that she now holds and Guinness acknowledges on their website)
So to suggest tomb raider has “had many fails” when it’s been such a massive and the ONLY successful female lead video game franchise spawning comics, toys, two successful live action movies (in which paramount confirmed cradle of life was successful enough to get a sequel but Angelina didn’t want to keep doing tomb raider movies she was happy with cradle of life)
Likeee honey you know your talking about TOMB RAIDER? Right? Do your research before talking. Reboot era just added to tomb raider’s already iconic resume,
@@FoggyProductionsand if you go on metacritic techincally tr1 from 1996 was the only one to get a 91 score soo.
But their is no need to put Lara’s against eachother when their literally unifying the survivor trilogy with all the other games to make one Lara and one timeline.
Get ready for her duals and acrobatics for the next game (:! As it takes place after tomb raider underworld
The sequel to shadow of the tomb raider is officially tomb raider 1-3 remastered per crystal dynamics (:!
@@TombRaider_Remastered what are you talking about exactly? I was refering to couple of titles in between the ps1 titles and last trilogy games - out of which the first one was my favourite. What does the sales number say about the quality exactly?
Yeah, total in agreement that Lara shouldn’t be all about killing humans…. she’s a treasure hunter not a killer.
Well, later on she switched to annihilate endangered animals - and humans from time to time as dessert.
@@miroslavzima8856Really? Man, the billionaire lifestyle is quite insane.
@@gamervet4760 Well, 2013 is restart of Tomb Raider (which isn´t much Tomb Raider), and look at TR 1 - 3. Damn, those places turned into giant graveyards!
And yup, they don´t know what to do with money and do insane things! xD
@@miroslavzima8856 I was joking. I know the game sucks. I played after it was recommended by my idiot brother.
@@gamervet4760 Haha, I had feeling you poked fun about that xD
Did he liked it or he intended to make your life more angrier? x)
There's definitely a lot of problems with this game. "Oh no, killing is so hard, I'm so torn" _five minutes later_ "This bow works wonders for murdering!". Lara also became really whiny, complaining at every little thing. Also the constant scenes where everything topples around her like a stack of dominos was just so ridiculous. You could tell just from looking that there was going be some silly bombastic "press X to not die" sequence about to happen. Also I'm convinced she died when she first got impaled and has just been a revenant since then in the remaining parts of the trilogy.
That would be a sick game theory - What if Lara actually died and we are playing the entire game as a ghost.. A ghost of Himiko herself? :D
Dude… You are SO F* RIGHT! Lara died in 2003 😞
Thanks Embracer for the remasters!
This never felt like a TR game to me and it will never be one.
I agree that it's not a tomb raider game. It's an entertaining game to play, and I enjoyed it, but it's not Tomb Raider. Interesting point to note: the sales of the 1st (1996) and 2nd (1997) original games totalled roughly $14 million and $13 million respectively when adjusted for inflation, so they still did the same or better as the newer games
Well if you lay it like that, then yeah. Those two originals probably generated more money since the 60$ price tag didn't change for decades. And 60$ back then was way expensive than 60$ now
The biggest crime was taking Lara Croft from a confident, witty and sassy lady to a crybaby who is insecure in herself.
I agree. On the one hand, she is so insecure, on the other hand she can perform a cauterization on herself just like that.. That's not very convincing for me
not sure with the new audio mix voice, was way better before.
I was toying with a new sound card, adjusting echo and some stuff. I wasn't very pleased tbh. I will try some other settings next time.
I agree. My brother played it, loved it, and recommended it. I bought it dirt cheap with all the DLC. I finished it in 2 days because the gameplay was stupid easy. So were the puzzles, and I was playing on the hardest difficulty. I didn't like the story and the fact that they had to kill her white mentor in order to teach her a lesson she had already learned. At the beginning of the game. It's okay, though. She got his pistols!
1:45 Not really. I was born in 86 and gave a lot of the new games a fair shake. You're absolutely right to gate keep certain things. There are certain criteria that are hard baked into game franchises. Like Banjo and Kazooie. Completely changed the franchise from its criteria, and it flopped, and rightfully so. I'm not a Banjo and Kazooie fan, btw. Just figured I'd make it my example.
A 'Game of ladders' called 'Chess'.
good game, no tomb raider, and she is not Lara Croft, go to the classics or one of the 3600+ custom TRLE games and levels to find her.
it's a fun game and that's why it sells better but is it really a tomb raider game?? it's not to most of the fans and you are right about everything you've said.. what makes tomb raider game a tomb raider game is the tombs the atmosphere the loneliness.. damn even the colors where vibrant back in the day.. my experience was the same when I first played it and I really thought this was a random game that the seller used the tomb raider name on it to trick me
I actually really liked this TR. It's definitely one of my favourite games of all time
It's a good game but it doesn't feel like Tomb Raider to me. I did enjoy it and complete it though.
I wanted raiding of Tombs and that wasn't much in it... like the start of Raiders of the Lost Ark. And you can't always explore, I wanted to explore the Big Haunted Fortress but you're not allowed to. If you could try but you get killed I think it's better than just not letting you at all.
Fair criticisms. I have good memories with this game.
I never noticed how every character was every color of the rainbow 😂
While I enjoyed this game a lot, I agree in a heartbeat that it is not Tomb Raider, except for some moments here and there. And I was thinking all this time it is normal she is not badass here in her first adventure, which you summarily debunked by showing the classic 16 years old Lara's behavior lol.
Not really a tomb raider game but it was rather good even though it has its problems.
I hated it, unfortunately id did well financially because zoomers loved it. Too bad.
I liked this game, despite its shortcomings. Rise was really disappointing, and Shadow is just trash.
Really? Now I'm afraid to play them. I was hoping that they are more TR than this one
Glad that TR is a franchise that can evolve and try different things. Want a dungeon crawler? play Temple of Osiris. Want a board game puzzle aesthetic? Lara Croft Go? Want to wash her house? Power Wash Simulator.
If we can call Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness a real game then Tomb Raider 2013 is one too.
Every point he makes in the video still stands though, and besides those are spin-offs, not mainline titles.
You're the exact problem with gaming and society today
TRAOD clears the whole 2013 reboot, cause it actually IS a tomb raider game. There was more tomb raiding in AOD than in the reboot. Whereas they were only optional🤡
Crystal Dynamic's "evolution" seems akin one from man to monkey than the opposite.
Tomb Raider 2013 is not a bad game. It's just not a good Tomb Raider game. It abandons literally all of the series strengths except the movement of Lara.
but no one asked you
womp womp
I know, I'm pretending all the time
Hey there!
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