Can't wait to get mine - awesome review: I especially loved the comprehensive size comparison at the end! I really hope we will get new models like Calgar from SM2 but I am definitely not displaying them together with the older figures. The new terminators, instread, will be great companions for Titus & friends! Skelly-cheers!
New terminator? You meant the current version with 14.3 cm height? Anw, the new version of Adeptus Custodes with taller height would be awesome as well.
Any one in particular? In my vid the first comparison with all the intercessors lined up is version 1 up to the latest. These are a lot bigger than the others, but work really well with the new Termies, which I think you'd appreciate! Cheers for stopping by mate, I watch your vids and am subscribed!
I've got this guy on order (Titus) but no idea where to display him when he arrives. I can't pose him with the rest of the primaris marines in my collection because he'll tower over them. Obviously he won't fit in with my HH figs.
@SkellywagsTV yeah maybe pose him between 2 Terminators or something. Old smaller figures in the back. Not ideal but not much else can do. On one hand I'm pleased they're getting the scale right, what it should have been in the first place but on the other, I've got a good sized collection that won't fit with the new scale.
Brand new line, brand new figures, but their weapons are exactly the same, but I think work really well. They don't look so oversized now lol. I'll look out for your vid AC! Be aware, Titus is bigger than any of your other marines!
Got mine from Ali I just found this on AliExpress: ￡1.65 | Mini Super Brightness Key Button Lamp Led Single Lights Diy Micro Scene Layout Illumination Materials Diorama Accessory 1Pcs a.aliexpress.com/_EQnXqZE
Damn, I'm sooooo conflicted... As you say, this is a size LEAP. Now, I have to wonder... is this just for figs based on Space Marine 2, or is this the new buck that will take over? I'm very worried that stuff I buy today or next month will be out of scale with stuff that comes out 6 months from now, never mind the rest of my collection. I agree that they look great, but I have to believe that JoyToy Warhammer fans were hoping to put these guys with, at the very least, the newer sized 40K marines, but it's not even close (besides the new termies). If these are someone's first JoyToy marines then I guess they are fine...until they want more and see the size difference, 😬. Excellent, thorough review my guy. The size comparisons are honestly my most important part of a Warhammer (well mostly any...) review, so I appreciate your attention to detail.
I find it funny that anyone can cope with his size and say they'll display them separately lol, I mean what's the point when you can't display them together. Waiting for Joytoy to release older figs with this new scale is also a big stretch, they haven't even updated most if not all 1.0/2.0 to 3.0. They haven't even updated the weapon to scale with Titus, just reuse and they're too small. The new Black Legion and Khorne Berzerker seem to be in titus scale, but you can at least excuse them for being chaos juiced. Tldr: These SM2 figs might very well be a one off, at least in terms of scaling.
To be honest guys, Joytoy should have taken a bit more liberty with proportions to begin with and not try to stay so close to the minis. Also, the Joytoy 40k line started off too small. These guys are about 5.5 inches and in the real world that would be just over 8 feet tall, so they are true 1/18 scale now and work perfectly with the rest of my 1/18 scale action figure collection. Which is what I wanted all along. I'm just glad these work nicely with the new Termies. Also, they work with HH now too. Unfortunately, a lot of their mainline 40k will look off. As to whether this is the new size moving forward, I've no idea. The new traitor announcements seem to be bigger (but I suppose you can attribute any major size variance to the warp!). I would be happy just getting SM2 figures and HH if they don't increase the size and improve proportions all round.
Hey Skelly, word on the street is that we're getting more Space Marine 2 characters. We need a bigger Calgar too lol. Hopefully they give us a DeathWatch chapter as well. Could you imagine if they gave us the Bio Titan 🤑. Take this with a grain of salt people I've been hearing this from other collectors.
The DeathWatch tea at the beginning of SM2 would be awesome! There are rumours of a Calgar based on his SM2 appearance. Fingerss crossed! Lol a Bio Titan would be extreme!
Yeah, honestly, I was impressed with how nice it looks! Got mine from Ali I just found this on AliExpress: ￡1.65 | Mini Super Brightness Key Button Lamp Led Single Lights Diy Micro Scene Layout Illumination Materials Diorama Accessory 1Pcs a.aliexpress.com/_EQnXqZE
Is this new scale going to be the new size for all 40k figures going forward? If it is I ain’t replacing my already substantially sized army with copies. 😅
I heard that may be the case. Lol yeah, mate, that's the best way to go about it. If it's not for you, then there's no need to buy them. Some collectors are getting so angry. I love their size and wish they were like this to begin with, so I'm just gonna have to find a way to make it work
I have my set on the way. Can you describe more about the legs feeling hollow. You are the 3rd person I've heard saying this, do they feel cheap and light ?
It would have been bettter for the knee armor if they did it like in the game, like Kayvaan Shrike’s wherein the knee pad is connected to the actual knee joint. I need the other characters from the game now lol
Aww man, missed oppurtunity. That would have been awesome to have the articulation like that for the knees. I want Calgar, Death Watch Titus and Chaplain!
yeah thanks primaris terminator and titus are correct size now i will wait for them to make a blood angel and dark angel time to buy primaris again as long as joytoy won't f up again time to buy the blood angels terminators even the head size is good sad for all the people who wasted alot of money
@ sad i keep posting about the size since v1 jesus what a mess when Valdor come out all who bought custodes will freak out and i will laugh the Age of sigmar is consider the worst Warhammer IP they should have make the officio assassinorum first
Lol yeah, I these are the largest of their kind yet! But at about 5.5 inches in 1/18 scale that would make them just over 8 feet in real life. So they are true 1/18 scale and fit perfectly with other 1/18 scale figures
That’s joytoy’s fault for making the space marines too small in the past. The space marine 2 figures are actually in correct scale next to regular 1/18 humans and the primarchs.
Yup, you guys are right. this is the proportions and size Joytoy shluld have done to begin with. I know they were trying to stick as close to the minis as possible, but even the newer GW minis are off in proportions. I can't believe GW signed off on the original size. with this lot at about 5.5 inches that would mean they would be just over 8 feet, so these guys are definitely true 1/18 scale
@@SkellywagsTV that's the reason why didn't like the old terminators there legs are too small, along with them not supporting their weight very well they, fall over too easily. I got the grey knight terminators because they don't look as weird put they do share the same problems they can't support their weight and, fall over way too easily that's why I like the new terminators more because they actually look like walking tanks and, when holding one in my hand the feel sturdy and solid especially the metal joints.
Yeah, they were grossly undersized. When you calculate it, some of the previous 40k marines would only be about 6 foot 9 inches when scaled up to real size. That's smaller than firstborn, that's basically a basketball player or Tyson Fury height
As a fan of Games Workshop sculpts, these don't quite do it for me. The proportions simply look too bulky and cumbersome - a space marine in power armor should be fast and athletic, ultimately aspiring to wield a power sword. The waist and thighs are too chunky, and the arms look too stumpy. Will be buying regardless though, maybe they'll grow on me.
Yeah, I get that. Well, the good thing is that there are plenty of models from Joytoy now that somewhat adhere more closely to the GW minis. Might be worth checking through the figures that have been out for a while already. I've wanted mine to mix with the rest of my 1/18 scaled action figures, and these are the best for that so far.
All figures in mk10 armour (eg. Intercessors) are Primaris. If i were too bothered, I'd replace mk10 helmets with unhelmeted heads or 3d printed mk6 or mk7 ones - then they look first born.
Scaling is even more all over the place, it seems. No consistency. Titus and co., here are the final nails in the coffin, no excuse. At least we can still fudge previous releases with their size creeps. They haven't even updated most, if not all, 1.0 figs to 2.0 or 3.0 (so on and so forth), so we can curb our "they'll redo old figures with this new scale" Wishes. The new Black Legion and Khorne Berzerker seem to be following this scale, but at least one can excuse them for being bigger because of chaos juice or something. The problem starts when in the future, Astorath or Lemartes are going to tower over Dante & Mephiston lmao
Yeah, as I said in another reply, this wouldn't have been an issue if Joytoy had sized correctly to begin with. Most named characters out already will likely suffer the most if the size increase applies across the board moving forward.
@@SkellywagsTV agree, he's true 1:18, but why now? feels like a slap in the face for older collector. They can't just restart/rescale the whole line and call it a day can't they. I esp irked by them not caring for the consumer, because I saw everyone complained even before 2.0/3.0. For all we know, we'll have a 1:12 marine by the next month and they'll abandon the 1:18 minutes after lol
@GamingMafia_id I Joytoy have been meaning to fix the size problems. With this "new" IP in Space Marine 2, it gives them an excuse to try something way different instead of an incremental size creep. Lol let's hope they don't get up to 1/12 scale! Otherwise there'll be a riot!
Yeah, mate, it's quite annoying, but I've adjusted since HH. A load of my 40k primaris marines are either the same or smaller than my HH. I was planning on concentrating on new termies anyway, but I'll continue to get this new size as it just works with all of my other non-Warhammer 1/18 scale figures too.
recomandation should be an easy NO! figures are shit, propertions are shit (not game proportion at all) leg articulation is total shit, jumppack has not be upscaled, weapons have not been upscaled...an easy half ass job....whoever recommends these has no sese for good quality
Well that escalated quickly! I will say, proportion-wise, they may not be exactly game proportions, but they'er better than ANY of the previous space marine intercessor proportions. Hands down. Leg articulation is not the best, but total shit? There are older figures I've got that don't even have the capacity to do some of the simple poses I perform in this video. The jumppack has not been upscaled and it sucks. What's worse though, is the fact the pegs don't fit properly (without lubing it up!). I do not need my weapons to be any larger, thank you very much, just the chainsword. I appreciate your opinion Florin and always appreciate your support, but there's no need for insults, mate. Whether served directly on indirectly. It's OK to have differing opinions, but we should be having fun whilst doing so!
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Thanks for the in-depth comparisons! We can always count on your comparisons to deliver.
Thanks mate. I forgot the orks! Ah well...
Fcking sick with the magnet ledlights definitely need one of those. Looks so menacing with the glowing eyes
Can't wait to get mine - awesome review: I especially loved the comprehensive size comparison at the end! I really hope we will get new models like Calgar from SM2 but I am definitely not displaying them together with the older figures. The new terminators, instread, will be great companions for Titus & friends!
Skelly-cheers!
I thought exactly that, it will look great with the new terminators
New terminator? You meant the current version with 14.3 cm height? Anw, the new version of Adeptus Custodes with taller height would be awesome as well.
@@dangthinh90 they are primaris terminator
Great review! Would you mind sharing more info or a link for the LEDs? Thanks!
Cheers mate! No probs, got them from Aliexpress a.aliexpress.com/_EQnXqZE
Plz do the size comparison video with the older figures, I’ve always been curious on the differences
Any one in particular? In my vid the first comparison with all the intercessors lined up is version 1 up to the latest. These are a lot bigger than the others, but work really well with the new Termies, which I think you'd appreciate! Cheers for stopping by mate, I watch your vids and am subscribed!
I've got this guy on order (Titus) but no idea where to display him when he arrives.
I can't pose him with the rest of the primaris marines in my collection because he'll tower over them.
Obviously he won't fit in with my HH figs.
Yeah, you'll have to fudge him in with some sort of action pose!
@SkellywagsTV yeah maybe pose him between 2 Terminators or something. Old smaller figures in the back. Not ideal but not much else can do.
On one hand I'm pleased they're getting the scale right, what it should have been in the first place but on the other, I've got a good sized collection that won't fit with the new scale.
Thank you, Skelly! It looks fantastic and seems to be a completely new design by JT. I hope mine arrives this week, but Titus only!
need weapon and blackpack review
i think weapons are still v1
Brand new line, brand new figures, but their weapons are exactly the same, but I think work really well. They don't look so oversized now lol. I'll look out for your vid AC! Be aware, Titus is bigger than any of your other marines!
reall good detail review!!! thx!! you are the best reviewer!!'
Aww thanks man, really appreciate it mate!
Where did you get the micro LEDs
Got mine from Ali I just found this on AliExpress:
￡1.65 | Mini Super Brightness Key Button Lamp Led Single Lights Diy Micro Scene Layout Illumination Materials Diorama Accessory 1Pcs
a.aliexpress.com/_EQnXqZE
Really good review! Where did you get the magnets and the LEDs?
Excellent review!
Cheers mate! Appreciate it
These are the pauldrons we need on all the figures from now on.
Yes, please!
Damn, I'm sooooo conflicted... As you say, this is a size LEAP. Now, I have to wonder... is this just for figs based on Space Marine 2, or is this the new buck that will take over? I'm very worried that stuff I buy today or next month will be out of scale with stuff that comes out 6 months from now, never mind the rest of my collection. I agree that they look great, but I have to believe that JoyToy Warhammer fans were hoping to put these guys with, at the very least, the newer sized 40K marines, but it's not even close (besides the new termies). If these are someone's first JoyToy marines then I guess they are fine...until they want more and see the size difference, 😬. Excellent, thorough review my guy. The size comparisons are honestly my most important part of a Warhammer (well mostly any...) review, so I appreciate your attention to detail.
I find it funny that anyone can cope with his size and say they'll display them separately lol, I mean what's the point when you can't display them together. Waiting for Joytoy to release older figs with this new scale is also a big stretch, they haven't even updated most if not all 1.0/2.0 to 3.0. They haven't even updated the weapon to scale with Titus, just reuse and they're too small. The new Black Legion and Khorne Berzerker seem to be in titus scale, but you can at least excuse them for being chaos juiced. Tldr: These SM2 figs might very well be a one off, at least in terms of scaling.
the upcoming WE are sm2 scale
@@rarufu592 Oh boy.... Biggest problem here is.... When will it end, when will they hit a sweet spot and only tweak instead of huge changes. Yikes...
@@GamingMafia_id Yeah it's very worrisome to say the least.
To be honest guys, Joytoy should have taken a bit more liberty with proportions to begin with and not try to stay so close to the minis. Also, the Joytoy 40k line started off too small. These guys are about 5.5 inches and in the real world that would be just over 8 feet tall, so they are true 1/18 scale now and work perfectly with the rest of my 1/18 scale action figure collection. Which is what I wanted all along. I'm just glad these work nicely with the new Termies. Also, they work with HH now too. Unfortunately, a lot of their mainline 40k will look off.
As to whether this is the new size moving forward, I've no idea. The new traitor announcements seem to be bigger (but I suppose you can attribute any major size variance to the warp!). I would be happy just getting SM2 figures and HH if they don't increase the size and improve proportions all round.
Hey Skelly, word on the street is that we're getting more Space Marine 2 characters. We need a bigger Calgar too lol. Hopefully they give us a DeathWatch chapter as well. Could you imagine if they gave us the Bio Titan 🤑. Take this with a grain of salt people I've been hearing this from other collectors.
The DeathWatch tea at the beginning of SM2 would be awesome! There are rumours of a Calgar based on his SM2 appearance. Fingerss crossed! Lol a Bio Titan would be extreme!
Great review, where did you order you LED lights from? they look worth to have with them
Yeah, honestly, I was impressed with how nice it looks! Got mine from Ali I just found this on AliExpress:
￡1.65 | Mini Super Brightness Key Button Lamp Led Single Lights Diy Micro Scene Layout Illumination Materials Diorama Accessory 1Pcs
a.aliexpress.com/_EQnXqZE
Is this new scale going to be the new size for all 40k figures going forward? If it is I ain’t replacing my already substantially sized army with copies. 😅
I heard that may be the case. Lol yeah, mate, that's the best way to go about it. If it's not for you, then there's no need to buy them. Some collectors are getting so angry. I love their size and wish they were like this to begin with, so I'm just gonna have to find a way to make it work
I have my set on the way. Can you describe more about the legs feeling hollow. You are the 3rd person I've heard saying this, do they feel cheap and light ?
Yeah, the plastic feels different. But after a while you get used to it. It's less of a rubbery plastic
It would have been bettter for the knee armor if they did it like in the game, like Kayvaan Shrike’s wherein the knee pad is connected to the actual knee joint. I need the other characters from the game now lol
Aww man, missed oppurtunity. That would have been awesome to have the articulation like that for the knees. I want Calgar, Death Watch Titus and Chaplain!
Agree. Captain Acheran is a must for me too! And maybe the maxed out operations classes? IDK maybe that’s asking too much lol
yeah thanks primaris terminator and titus are correct size now
i will wait for them to make a blood angel and dark angel time to buy primaris again
as long as joytoy won't f up again time to buy the blood angels terminators
even the head size is good sad for all the people who wasted alot of money
Yeah, I can really see the difference now. These guys look really good with my other 1/18 figures as well.
@ sad i keep posting about the size since v1 jesus what a mess
when Valdor come out all who bought custodes will freak out and i will laugh
the Age of sigmar is consider the worst Warhammer IP they should have make the officio assassinorum first
Yup, you've been saying all along, and now it's become a BIG problem (pun intended)
Awesome!!!!😎 💀
Ahh yeeeeah! 💀👊
Пропорции удручают , зделать мы с этим нечего не сможем . Но мне нравится тит и братья .
They make the other Primaris look like children
These are starting to look more like 1/12 than 1/18
Lol yeah, I these are the largest of their kind yet! But at about 5.5 inches in 1/18 scale that would make them just over 8 feet in real life. So they are true 1/18 scale and fit perfectly with other 1/18 scale figures
Now it becomes a mess in term of proportion
That’s joytoy’s fault for making the space marines too small in the past. The space marine 2 figures are actually in correct scale next to regular 1/18 humans and the primarchs.
That was one of many things people were complaining about back then the figures being way too small.
Yup, you guys are right. this is the proportions and size Joytoy shluld have done to begin with. I know they were trying to stick as close to the minis as possible, but even the newer GW minis are off in proportions. I can't believe GW signed off on the original size. with this lot at about 5.5 inches that would mean they would be just over 8 feet, so these guys are definitely true 1/18 scale
@@SkellywagsTV that's the reason why didn't like the old terminators there legs are too small, along with them not supporting their weight very well they, fall over too easily. I got the grey knight terminators because they don't look as weird put they do share the same problems they can't support their weight and, fall over way too easily that's why I like the new terminators more because they actually look like walking tanks and, when holding one in my hand the feel sturdy and solid especially the metal joints.
@@richardch.4356yeah, agreed. The new termies have set the bar for me, so I'm glad SM2 go nicely. The grey knights could do with a revamp really
Awesome! Seriously considering getting these, but a bit of a shame that they're once again larger than the older versions.
I think this will be it for size... I hope! lol
The older ones were too small I remember people complaining about that.
Yeah, they were grossly undersized. When you calculate it, some of the previous 40k marines would only be about 6 foot 9 inches when scaled up to real size. That's smaller than firstborn, that's basically a basketball player or Tyson Fury height
As a fan of Games Workshop sculpts, these don't quite do it for me. The proportions simply look too bulky and cumbersome - a space marine in power armor should be fast and athletic, ultimately aspiring to wield a power sword. The waist and thighs are too chunky, and the arms look too stumpy. Will be buying regardless though, maybe they'll grow on me.
Yeah, I get that. Well, the good thing is that there are plenty of models from Joytoy now that somewhat adhere more closely to the GW minis. Might be worth checking through the figures that have been out for a while already.
I've wanted mine to mix with the rest of my 1/18 scaled action figures, and these are the best for that so far.
I'm coping that my collection are all first borns and titus are primaris marines. And correct me if I'm wrong aren't all joytoy figures all primaris?
All figures in mk10 armour (eg. Intercessors) are Primaris. If i were too bothered, I'd replace mk10 helmets with unhelmeted heads or 3d printed mk6 or mk7 ones - then they look first born.
Most are primaris, not all though. Eric is right though, you can change up the headsculpts
errr.. they ar just abit too tall
Lol yup, quite a bit taller! But true 1/18 scale now
Scaling is even more all over the place, it seems. No consistency. Titus and co., here are the final nails in the coffin, no excuse. At least we can still fudge previous releases with their size creeps. They haven't even updated most, if not all, 1.0 figs to 2.0 or 3.0 (so on and so forth), so we can curb our "they'll redo old figures with this new scale" Wishes. The new Black Legion and Khorne Berzerker seem to be following this scale, but at least one can excuse them for being bigger because of chaos juice or something. The problem starts when in the future, Astorath or Lemartes are going to tower over Dante & Mephiston lmao
Yeah, as I said in another reply, this wouldn't have been an issue if Joytoy had sized correctly to begin with. Most named characters out already will likely suffer the most if the size increase applies across the board moving forward.
@@SkellywagsTV agree, he's true 1:18, but why now? feels like a slap in the face for older collector. They can't just restart/rescale the whole line and call it a day can't they. I esp irked by them not caring for the consumer, because I saw everyone complained even before 2.0/3.0. For all we know, we'll have a 1:12 marine by the next month and they'll abandon the 1:18 minutes after lol
@GamingMafia_id I Joytoy have been meaning to fix the size problems. With this "new" IP in Space Marine 2, it gives them an excuse to try something way different instead of an incremental size creep.
Lol let's hope they don't get up to 1/12 scale! Otherwise there'll be a riot!
@@SkellywagsTV But we're already 500+ figs deep brother Skelly. I'd need therapy if I were a veteran JoyToy collector lol.
Yeah, mate, it's quite annoying, but I've adjusted since HH. A load of my 40k primaris marines are either the same or smaller than my HH. I was planning on concentrating on new termies anyway, but I'll continue to get this new size as it just works with all of my other non-Warhammer 1/18 scale figures too.
Thanks for the video, I will pass Titus. He is too tall, out of scale in my opinion.
Yeah, definitely a lot bigger than previous models, but is actually more true 1/18 scale
recomandation should be an easy NO! figures are shit, propertions are shit (not game proportion at all) leg articulation is total shit, jumppack has not be upscaled, weapons have not been upscaled...an easy half ass job....whoever recommends these has no sese for good quality
Well that escalated quickly!
I will say, proportion-wise, they may not be exactly game proportions, but they'er better than ANY of the previous space marine intercessor proportions. Hands down.
Leg articulation is not the best, but total shit? There are older figures I've got that don't even have the capacity to do some of the simple poses I perform in this video.
The jumppack has not been upscaled and it sucks. What's worse though, is the fact the pegs don't fit properly (without lubing it up!).
I do not need my weapons to be any larger, thank you very much, just the chainsword.
I appreciate your opinion Florin and always appreciate your support, but there's no need for insults, mate. Whether served directly on indirectly. It's OK to have differing opinions, but we should be having fun whilst doing so!
Nice review. Cheers.
Thank you brother💀👊