Getting legitimately pissed off listening to how he choked her nearly to death, what he said, and thinking about what Emma said at the beginning about how some people are apparently *defending* this disgusting excuse for a man, and having the disgusting audacity to say it was *her fault*. All those people can go to hell. This man is a monster.
My ex followed me to another country. Fortunately, i had my wits about me and fooled him into thinking i was coming back to him. It was far more complicated than these few sentences but 30years later and happily married, i still fear him, i still see him even if it's not him, because i know what he is capable of.
I know exactly how it feels. My dear cousin Jessica, was murdered on Thanksgiving in 2016. Almost identical circumstances. He went to jail for beating her up, because he was mad she found somebody else and was moving on with her life. Got bailed out, and nobody was notified, went and purchased a gun legally and then shot her in front of her house on Thanksgiving.
Oh my god that's horrendous 😢 I'm so sorry from the depths of my heart for the loss of Jessica at the hands of another monster, sending ❤ to you and your family xxx
@@Karl-w6r first off I’m a female 🙄 and she did leave him after he hit her. She moved on with her life and seven months later he showed up and beat on her when he found out she moved on with another man. He stalked her for months and a restraining order did nothing. Your comment is absolutely ignorant and unnecessary
I’m a survivor of DV, and those experiences have made me realize that I will never, EVER tolerate ANY level of violence in a relationship. It escalates so quickly, and can have deadly consequences. I feel such empathy for Lauren’s parents, and can only pray that they don’t blame themselves for the actions of the monster that called itself her boyfriend.
As a DV surviver you explained this so well i can understand laurens position and psyche blaming self bot wanting to harm the person harming you etc etc
She absolutely did. In the last few minutes of this video, I cried uncontrollably. I sobbed. I have been away from my ab*ser for 14 years and this story was so close, almost identical to what I lived through. I pray you are doing well. 🥰 I’m glad you were still with us, as well as I am very lucky to be here alive and well and thriving. Another part of the story that hit home for me was after escaping my abuse. I was able to go back to school and become a registered nurse I am now a nurse practitioner and working as a hospitalist, helping others.❤
Bit triggering this one but hearing Emma's defence and explaination of why victims stay and how manipulators twist everything, not only made me feel better but also i feel i wanted to share this with everyone i know and maybe help them understand why/how things like this happen.
@@LeighPrendergast That's a rather cold hearted comment. The commenter you reply to faced her own personal triggers in order to better understand and help others better understand this type of insidious violence, highlighting how understanding is better than the victim blaming we usually encounter (especially as women living in a patriarchal world). Your comment, on the other hand, demonstrates well the kind of ignorance that allows this kind of violence to thrive. DARLING.
I was in a terribly abusive relationship I had been choked while driving and woke up in the back seat, my face smashed off the road after I pulled the emergency break in my car because he told me he would kill me so no one else could have me, I have pictures of me holding our daughter with bruises around my neck and black eyes. I was 17 years old and he was my first real boyfriend and he always made me feel like it was my fault. It is so hard to get away and I knew I had to for my daughter. It really makes me sad because so many women don’t get away and my heart breaks for Lauren and anyone else in the situation.
I’m still in the intro, 30 seconds in and I’m already infuriated! What do you MEAN he tried to kill her before, was released and they weren’t informed?? Whoever made that decision needs to be charged as an accomplice for her murder 😡
This! I'm a victim. Victim support messaged me each time he was up for parole. He got released early too by 5 years but I've moved town. I doubt he could find me over here..
My God. That poor father. Those people from the Bond company and the ones who let him out should be charged as accessories. This case makes me so angry and sad at the same time.
That Rivers was able to contact Lauren at all from jail. Her number, as well as any friends or family should have been blocked. Attempting to call her, or inducing friends or family to do so, should have been more charges. Utter failure of the system.
Brooke’s Bonding Company should definitely be culpable in this case. They, in my opinion, sound very shady. Her poor father did everything that he could and it wasn’t enough. His interviews are so heartbreaking.💔
Be kind and take good care of yourself. Remember that healing takes longer than we want it to, so give yourself grace. Treat yourself the way you'd treat a child who needs care. Sending you love and light! ❤
I know! I don't have a criminal record and I was raised in a middle class area, went to a lovely school and domestic violence happened to me. After pleading for help & 2 restraining orders I realised I had to change my number and move. I have intercom ,cameras security fobs etc. I still have the scars & injuries but I survived. Thankyou Emma for covering these cases.💜🌹
My dad is just like Lauren's. He would literally bleed himself dry to protect me - and now my daughter too. The things hes been through to protect me make me feel so awful now Im a parent myself and cant imagine having to go through those things with my own daughter 😢 My dad is (and always has been) my hero. We need more dads like this is the world ❤
As a survivor, I need to say his mom's actions during that attack were not the norm, sadly . My ex mother in law just could never understand why I didn't just stop making her son mad . Believe me, if I could have figured that out, I would have, unfortunately, you just never know what will cause an attack . It took 5 years and some very brave women who kept me safe, but I made it out alive and stayed that way. To all my sisters and brothers(we tend to forget them ), who didn't, may you rest in peace and love .
Couldn't even imagine having to live with that image of my own child 🥺 this was absolutely preventable. Rest in paradise beautiful girl you didn't deserve this ❤❤
Cases such as this make my blood, and every other bodily fluid, boil. Why domestic abuse, and violence against women and girls, still aren't taken seriously in 2024 is beyond me. The failings in this case are beyond belief!! How many mistakes must be made, and innocent lives taken, before the authorities learn from these and they turn things around for the better?? Heads must roll and those involved in cases like this really must be held accountable for their part in tragic cases like this. This reminded me of the Raoul Moat case where his ex girlfriend wasn't informed of his release due to a monumental administrative cockup in the probation department, by which time it was too late - she was shot and her new boyfriend fatally wounded by Moat himself.
we will hear the same thing we always hear "Lessons will be learned, mistakes were made, we will do better" false promises because our lives truly don't matter, just like the lives of our children will never matter to the foster care system.
@plurbaybee spot on! The system was designed by psychopaths for psychopaths especially those gravitating towards children... In my opinion, and that of many after research and seeing how certain cases are dealt with, it's quite apparent that a huge chunk of the children's services are utterly corrupt and will take children who are doing OK at home and will steal them away and put them into foster care, where in many cases they are abused in every possible way by the new "carers". Or, a child in serious need and DANGER will be sent off to such a placement only to realize they've gone out of the dying pan, into the fire. Sooooo much evidence shows the system is involved in a huge level of abuse and - dare I say - trafficking as a primary reason for the agencies' very existence. Anyone want to prove me wrong?
I really think that taking everything too seriously, like elevating cat-calls to the level of assault, has overloaded the system and really important cases are falling through the cracks
This is truly one of the worst cases I have ever heard. He hunted her down and was not satisfied until she was dead. How his mother can defend him is beyond me.
She should be charged for perjury. Lying in court like that. If they charged and sentenced ppl for covering for others abhorrent behavior, I'm sure ppl would think twice about it. He coulda moved on and went and found another poor soul to prey on. Shes in court playing down his 1 hour violent assault??? Courts are too dumb and need to be stricter.
This case is beyond tragic. I was listening to he father being interviewed while shopping and tears were falling. Absolutely heartbreaking and infuriating! 🤬💔
I just saw the movie "it ends with us" yesterday, I was in tears throughout. So well done and made me feel for the first time that I see a relationship like my previous one actually explained including growing up with it. As a society we have so much work to do to end femicide and dv. RIP Lauren 🌹🌹🌹
My sympathy to Lauren’s family and friends…. I can’t imagine. What a beautiful and amazing young woman she seemed to be , may she rest in peace ❤️🕊️ This should have never happened. The number of failures that occurred when this monster was let out of the cage he should have stayed in is astonishing ! Excellent work as always, Emma.
Whenever I learn about these stories and victims, the more grateful I am that my own mother got out while me and my brother were young. She does my head in, but she must have some mad strength to have gone through that and walked away.
All over the world, every day - and no government and no court handle the murders of women differently - there should always be immediately an arrest and the prdator should stay in jail why is it always the case, that the freedom of the accust is more important than that of the victim - I will never understand.
The bonds board was required to attend court to sign an order which specified his bail conditions. Bond company staff involved should be behind bars charged with her murder too.
That's so true...I got triggered... everything you described so professionally and in depth is so true and real and universal apparently...High level narcissists have all the same traits and it's so weird I find...I also found how people on the streets (in Berlin in the light of day,in Vienna,in Cote d'Azur...),saw him literally know me out to the ground with such force and brutality,and no one interviened... after 20 years of adoring him I ended in a mental hospital...and weirdly enough i dream of him every night and still loves him and ......
I don't understand why he was obsessed with killing the poor girl. What was he trying to prove, and WHY do these men usually feel the need to murder the woman they've beaten, abused, and treated like dirt?
This really gave me the chills. Poor girl and I feel so sad for her father. I found your channel a while ago, really have become one of my favourites. Great work!
What Emma speaks about at the 34:00 -ish mark reminds me of how Brian Laundrie adopted a calm, cool manner when pulled over by the police not long before he killed Gabbie. Sadly, in that case, he was able to make fools of the officers who believed him and labeled Gabbie as unstable because she was emotionally distraught. Thank you, Emma, for explaining how this can play out.
He reminded me of Brian before I saw the rest of this and the picture of Gabi's sitting and explaining in the back of the police car immediately came up.
Emma you are my hero! You do such an amazing job breaking down these cases! Your insight into human behavior is incredible! I will say this: Everyone should know that if you are ever choked-out by an abusive partner, the chance that they will kill you is higher than for any other crime!! Please people, if you are in an abusive relationship get out! All the promises and please for forgiveness mean absolutely nothing! THEY DO NOT CHANGE! If they hit you that first time it means that they don't see you as a person who is of utmost value!! There is something wrong wiith them, not you! They lack the ability to have true empathy! Please get help!
They need to change the laws around domestic violence. The victim should not have a choice if the person gets charged. They should just get charged and go to jail. This story is so sad.
He's thinking of his mother because she's probably endured the same, his whole life, while he witnessed or allowed the same to happen to him. Haven't gotten that far, but he's clearly got a sick, twisted mother-bond that transfers to the girlfriend. I've dated this guy under a different name, but really, they're all the same. Indistinguishable from one another. Same thing, the judicial system let him out because I had "went back before anyways." I spent 3 days captive and ultimately, after they released him AGAIN for kidnapping me, I left the state and disappeared. Off-grid, to my mom's. A year later, he killed the next woman's 14 year old son when that son tried to pull him off his mother. I'm not dead because I'm not meant to be, I should be, and that 14 yr. old child is dead since the judicial system literally said essentially the same: what did YOU, the victim do? You'll go back anyway. I went back because I was afraid the first time. It was kidnapping the 2nd time because I said no, despite the fear. My family cried and said I looked like hamburger meat. My own mother didn't recognize me and thought I was a stranger and sobbed when she realized it was me. He was released 2 years ago and found me, 25+ years later, trying to resume where we were; after killing that child (involuntary manslaughter because he was beating the kid's mom and didn't realize it was her kid on him). I guess it's because I was his last girlfriend before the murder. It's just to say, that's how f'n sick these men are.
My X used to project like that & I remember the terror so glad I got out of 7 years of it, I know I would be dead if I didn’t get out!! Love all your videos watched everyone, love Wednesdays Fridays & Sundays because of you Emma ❤ xxxx
My ex was amazing according to his friends, I'm lucky to be alive after a 10 month relationship, i was gaslighted within days of getting with him, he had wanted a relationship for a couple of years i didn't, but we got together in 2016 was beaten 2 days after our engagement & then beaten weekly, in late 2016 he almost killed me, he got 6 months probation, I had to move away and start a new life 😢
People in the legal system don't always take these situations seriously. I wasn't in a violent relationship like this case but I was raped by a partner. I got told it wasn't rape as I should've been giving it to him anyway. Some think that your partner owns you and your body and are ok to do what they want with your body.
Emma thank you for covering this in the compassionate and kind way in which it needed to be covered. I always find that you give them utmost compassion to the victims in their families regardless of their situation. It is so unbelievably sad to me a victim of domestic violence, rather or survivor, it is so upsetting and everything you said is true they reduce you down to nothing make you feel like it’s all your fault. You could’ve only done better better said better than you fall into reactive abuse it’s a horrible cycle. If any of Lauren’s friends or family views, this comment know that I pray for her and like candles in her name I’m so sorry for your insurmountable loss.
The justice system is absolutely PATHETIC at times! this really could have been avoided , I’m angry that this beautiful women , lost her life because of this psycho piece of SCUM!🤬 as a mother to a daughter, I cannot imagine! My heart goes out to Lauren , and everyone who was close to her, may she R.I.P🙏🏾💔
I hate everything about this. Humanity is seriously fd. I know why I chose to never get in any kind of relationship. Growing up being abused, neglect, nearly killed more than once... I don't want anyone around me and I would never be able to father children in such a horrible disgusting world.
Amazing, direct message at the end Emma. Very powerful! I wish I'd had anyone in my life willing to be that direct with me 10 years ago, women need to hear this and keep hearing it until it sinks past all of the clouded, confused and misguided thinking that their partner has put into their heads. From someone who finally got out, thank you!
wow its been while since i last seen any of your vids and what refreshing change with the back gruond,plants look great emma.i am glad be back part of the flock x
Your storytelling and situational awareness of the social exchanges are so brilliantly executed…. Unlike my poorly constructed sentence celebrating you. Thanks, Emma
Emma, how does one get in touch with you to outline a case that's relatively unheard of that I think you'd like to cover with your background in child safeguarding, it's a domestic violence case that resulted in murder and it also has a deep five into interpersonal and generational violence. I have the permission of the family involved and I have been asked whether you'd like to cover it..... If there's a way I could get in touch to give you the details and where to look for the court paperwork,I know that it would be genuinely appreciated. There's a huge story to tell, it barely got the coverage it deserved and it's an older case, I do remember it being a middle page spread in The News of The World (such as it was), but I believe it's a story that you may at least want to consider. If you have a form of social media that I could at least give you the outline and put you in touch with the relevant parties I made a promise to at least try and contact you so here I am.
I think you just say the victims name on here & hope they see it! That's what I have saw on other channels! Hopefully enough people like this & it gets noticed!! Goodluck!!
@ThePinsay thanks for your advice, unfortunately I can't just leave the victim's name as despite having permission I'd rather it was researched properly than just advertising a name and allowing just anyone that doesn't understand the legal and moral ramifications with regards to the case itself or the families it would go on to affect without due consideration. It's something I've given great thought to and if the case is to be covered at all it needs sensitivity and handling. I do think it ought to be talked about but I don't want it sensationalised for the sake of it. Thanks so much for your reply tho. It was caring and heartfelt and gratefully appreciated. I don't think I'll get very far with this but I thought I'd try nonetheless. Take good care of yourself and stay well. Xxx
Not Nashville but 40 minutes away in TN, failed so many times by the legal system. I’m sitting here listening to this listening knowing this easily could’ve been me, and I’m so sorry it was Lauren, and I’m so sorry any woman died at the hands of someone they loved. Bless her family, her dad is exactly like mine and I’m also imagining my father going through what he is now and my heart breaks that it is someone elses reality. Women need more protection, too many have been let down by the legal system.
I don’t understand why people are victim blaming & supporting murderers raising money for them when they’re clearly guilty & turning mother slayers into celebrities it’s mind blowing to me, people have lost their minds trying to say she’s the cause of her own demise, she’s the victim not him. RIP Lauren ❤
Aside from the awful events in this case, as a former nurse of 10 years, what is disturbing to me, is the large amount of victims that are nurses or nursing students in these cases! 😳 R I.P sweet Lauren 🤍🕊 EDIT: LMAOOOO smoking crack 😂😂😂😂
There was a part in this video where Emma genuinely made me choke up and it's when she's talking about them trying to gaslight you into thinking if YOU behave then things will change. Putting the onus on the victim and how she says never let them fool you. This hit because I was in a relationship for 10+ years where he verbally, physically and mentally abused me to the point I really believed I was the monster not him. Four years free of him (he's behind bars now) and I still have moments where I'm like "but what if I had done this differently" - I needed to hear what Emma said because I still get into the habit of blaming myself and I'm still healing even now. Thank you so much ❤ To the case: Lauren was failed by the very constructs that are suppose to protect the abused. I hope the judge sees her face in his dreams and I hope the monster who took her life never gets a moments peace until he takes his last breath.
Been there, done that and I still get I don't know why you stayed or why you married him, we just mistake strength and protection for psycho bullies and still believe we deserve it and you don't leave till you're more scared of staying than leaving and that's a whole lot of fear 😮❤❤❤
It is really terrifying at the end.When you leave they may escalate, and you can't monitor them as easily. Sometimes they even get your friends on their side
Hey Emma! Fun fact. The “I got it with a coupon” comment to a compliment is a very Midwestern American thing! We’re kind of known for it 😂 we can’t take a compliment. We always have to list where we bought it ESPECIALLY if it was thrifted or from a resell kind of store like TJMaxx.
Lauren's Dad is a hero. And i do agree with Emma get out but please becareful the moment you leave is the moment your abuser will be at their most dangerous . Stay safe and live free.
You are incredible at this. Love hearing everything you research and real opinions re any area. Another fantastic honest insight into a sick tragedy that was 100% AAVOIDABLE!!!! Thank You Emma. 💐🍀
Thank you so much for covering for this ❤ Your words of encouragement at the end brought me to tears, so many monsters roam this earth. Rest in perfect peace beautiful Lauren x
What a terrible, needless loss of a beautiful bright light. I cried so much for her Dad...they could have saved her if they'd done their jobs, if they'd done ANYTHING.
My heart breaks for Lauren and her family and friends. I've experienced being in a DV Relationship. They followed me to another country, convinced me to get back with them, and bullied me into standing trail and tell the courts what a good person they were. The fear and terror Lauren must have been feeling is unfathomable to me. I am so sad she lost her life and opportunities to move on from this monster. I hope judge Cheryl has been struck off for her thoughtless and dangerous decision.
I live in Nashville... the jail and courts are not run smoothly. They constantly let domestic abuse victims down. (My friend Marie Varsos was one.. please google her name); the Blackburns are also a corrupt political family here in our area.
I was blamed when my ex partner started to hit and strangle me when I was 7 months pregnant.... his family took his side and I was convinced it was my fault. My parents helped me escape when my son was 3 months old and it was only years later when I looked into narcissistic abuse that I saw the light. I was 30 when this happened and a medical professional- it can happen to anyone. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT- GET OUT - RUN ❤ BE BRAVE BE STRONG X
Thanks for covering this Emma.I'd never heard of this case but,find all the failings of the various organisations/authorities astounding.Its such a shame that this keeps happening & that it takes the devastating loss of a beautiful victim like Lauren to raise awareness & for more questions to be asked.Surely,some lessons have to be learned from cases such as this but,sadly,it always seems 'too little,too late'. Thanks again. *Btw,as a side note,it was lovely meeting you at your book signing at Waterstones in the Arndale Centre a couple of weeks ago...thanks so much for being so lovely.xx
I’ve experienced da. Many years ago when I was young. It’s very difficult for people to understand. I never told my parents about it.And I’ve heard my own father say things like, why do they stay. In my own case. I stayed because he threatened to kill my parents if I left. And our dogs. And he was a loose cannon. Capable of anything. I couldn’t tell my dad that. But things like this. This is why we stay. It’s not because we’re idiots. ❤
Trauma bonds are real... and deadly. There needs to be eduction in schools about DV and cognitive dissonance when relationships turn toxic. Thanks for the video Emma... as a domestic abuse recovery facilitator, i find your message clear and loud for all of those who arent aware.
It's a cycle that cannot be broke, even here the presenter says "shes a victim and 100% not to blame". Yet she stood up in court and LIED about what happened. He could of got a reduced sentence, he coulda got out in 3 years and found sum other woman and on his court documents he could of convinced the next woman "I'm innocent,, look she said she attacked me first". Not sure why that whole situation isnt called out and called out as something very inappropriate??
Totally random beginning of the video comment. I saw you featured as an expert on a documentary I watched the other day! I usually don’t “watch” these. Adhd means I can’t. I color while listening to documentaries. I heard your voice and HAD to look. Much love and appreciation for your work, Emma. (My baby nieces name is Emma 💜)
Poor Lauren! It never ceases to amaze me how someone can hurt someone so badly that they love & Ive experienced it! Looking back I dont even recognise myself in that relationship & thankful I got out of it! Thank you for the way you have covered this Emma!
Getting legitimately pissed off listening to how he choked her nearly to death, what he said, and thinking about what Emma said at the beginning about how some people are apparently *defending* this disgusting excuse for a man, and having the disgusting audacity to say it was *her fault*. All those people can go to hell. This man is a monster.
Thank you for saying this. When my “nice” ex husband hit me out of the blue, my own mother said well I must’ve done something to provoke it
I’m so truly sorry that was said to you. No partner who has professed love for you should ever physically hurt you!! EVER!!
that judge should resign
I said the same thing but it was denied by officials
And his lawyer!
Judges should be held directly accountable when their poor decisions result in the death of innocent victims
Atleast!😡
That judge should be fired and/or charged with contributory negligence.
The failures in this case feel like people still don’t take violence in a relationship not seriously enough.
Oh absolutely.Domestic violence is not taken seriously in any country
They do NOT!
My ex followed me to another country. Fortunately, i had my wits about me and fooled him into thinking i was coming back to him. It was far more complicated than these few sentences but 30years later and happily married, i still fear him, i still see him even if it's not him, because i know what he is capable of.
Take care x
I know exactly how it feels. My dear cousin Jessica, was murdered on Thanksgiving in 2016. Almost identical circumstances. He went to jail for beating her up, because he was mad she found somebody else and was moving on with her life. Got bailed out, and nobody was notified, went and purchased a gun legally and then shot her in front of her house on Thanksgiving.
I'm so sorry!!
Oh my god that's horrendous 😢 I'm so sorry from the depths of my heart for the loss of Jessica at the hands of another monster, sending ❤ to you and your family xxx
i’m so sorry
So maddening. I'm sorry for your loss, that should have NEVER happened.
@@Karl-w6r first off I’m a female 🙄 and she did leave him after he hit her. She moved on with her life and seven months later he showed up and beat on her when he found out she moved on with another man. He stalked her for months and a restraining order did nothing. Your comment is absolutely ignorant and unnecessary
I’m a survivor of DV, and those experiences have made me realize that I will never, EVER tolerate ANY level of violence in a relationship. It escalates so quickly, and can have deadly consequences. I feel such empathy for Lauren’s parents, and can only pray that they don’t blame themselves for the actions of the monster that called itself her boyfriend.
smart Girl! I totally agree! regards.
As a DV surviver you explained this so well i can understand laurens position and psyche blaming self bot wanting to harm the person harming you etc etc
She absolutely did. In the last few minutes of this video, I cried uncontrollably. I sobbed. I have been away from my ab*ser for 14 years and this story was so close, almost identical to what I lived through. I pray you are doing well. 🥰 I’m glad you were still with us, as well as I am very lucky to be here alive and well and thriving. Another part of the story that hit home for me was after escaping my abuse. I was able to go back to school and become a registered nurse I am now a nurse practitioner and working as a hospitalist, helping others.❤
Bit triggering this one but hearing Emma's defence and explaination of why victims stay and how manipulators twist everything, not only made me feel better but also i feel i wanted to share this with everyone i know and maybe help them understand why/how things like this happen.
@LeighPrendergast no need for that
@@LeighPrendergast That's a rather cold hearted comment. The commenter you reply to faced her own personal triggers in order to better understand and help others better understand this type of insidious violence, highlighting how understanding is better than the victim blaming we usually encounter (especially as women living in a patriarchal world). Your comment, on the other hand, demonstrates well the kind of ignorance that allows this kind of violence to thrive. DARLING.
@@LeighPrendergast go take a shower, I can smell you from here, babes.
I was in a terribly abusive relationship I had been choked while driving and woke up in the back seat, my face smashed off the road after I pulled the emergency break in my car because he told me he would kill me so no one else could have me, I have pictures of me holding our daughter with bruises around my neck and black eyes. I was 17 years old and he was my first real boyfriend and he always made me feel like it was my fault. It is so hard to get away and I knew I had to for my daughter. It really makes me sad because so many women don’t get away and my heart breaks for Lauren and anyone else in the situation.
I’m still in the intro, 30 seconds in and I’m already infuriated! What do you MEAN he tried to kill her before, was released and they weren’t informed?? Whoever made that decision needs to be charged as an accomplice for her murder 😡
This! I'm a victim. Victim support messaged me each time he was up for parole. He got released early too by 5 years but I've moved town. I doubt he could find me over here..
My God. That poor father. Those people from the Bond company and the ones who let him out should be
charged as
accessories. This case makes me so angry and sad at the same time.
The grief in her dad's eyes, I am so sorry
Hey Emma how are you ...are you looking after your self you look a bit poorly X
That Rivers was able to contact Lauren at all from jail. Her number, as well as any friends or family should have been blocked. Attempting to call her, or inducing friends or family to do so, should have been more charges. Utter failure of the system.
Brooke’s Bonding Company should definitely be culpable in this case. They, in my opinion, sound very shady. Her poor father did everything that he could and it wasn’t enough. His interviews are so heartbreaking.💔
I was assaulted recently and it lasted about a minute, maybe less. I couldn’t imagine that far worse and for far longer
I'm sorry to hear that, I hope your ok
@@kirstyventer6019 Awh thank you so much! Physically I am fully recovered. Mentally, I’ll get there❤️
@@chelsiie123_3 I wish nothing but peace for you!
Big hugs to you❤stay safe love 🙏🙏🙏🫶you will mentally feel better in time...I promise x
Be kind and take good care of yourself. Remember that healing takes longer than we want it to, so give yourself grace. Treat yourself the way you'd treat a child who needs care.
Sending you love and light! ❤
Isn't the system that we have for criminals, murderers and rapists simply wonderful?
Em, good to see you healthy and of course beautiful as always ❤
Absolutely unbelievable,the justice system is a mess, it’s an injustice system 🤬🤬
I know! I don't have a criminal record and I was raised in a middle class area, went to a lovely school and domestic violence happened to me. After pleading for help & 2 restraining orders I realised I had to change my number and move. I have intercom ,cameras security fobs etc. I still have the scars & injuries but I survived. Thankyou Emma for covering these cases.💜🌹
My dad is just like Lauren's. He would literally bleed himself dry to protect me - and now my daughter too. The things hes been through to protect me make me feel so awful now Im a parent myself and cant imagine having to go through those things with my own daughter 😢
My dad is (and always has been) my hero. We need more dads like this is the world ❤
As a survivor, I need to say his mom's actions during that attack were not the norm, sadly . My ex mother in law just could never understand why I didn't just stop making her son mad . Believe me, if I could have figured that out, I would have, unfortunately, you just never know what will cause an attack . It took 5 years and some very brave women who kept me safe, but I made it out alive and stayed that way. To all my sisters and brothers(we tend to forget them ), who didn't, may you rest in peace and love .
Couldn't even imagine having to live with that image of my own child 🥺 this was absolutely preventable. Rest in paradise beautiful girl you didn't deserve this ❤❤
Cases such as this make my blood, and every other bodily fluid, boil. Why domestic abuse, and violence against women and girls, still aren't taken seriously in 2024 is beyond me. The failings in this case are beyond belief!! How many mistakes must be made, and innocent lives taken, before the authorities learn from these and they turn things around for the better?? Heads must roll and those involved in cases like this really must be held accountable for their part in tragic cases like this. This reminded me of the Raoul Moat case where his ex girlfriend wasn't informed of his release due to a monumental administrative cockup in the probation department, by which time it was too late - she was shot and her new boyfriend fatally wounded by Moat himself.
we will hear the same thing we always hear "Lessons will be learned, mistakes were made, we will do better" false promises because our lives truly don't matter, just like the lives of our children will never matter to the foster care system.
@plurbaybee spot on! The system was designed by psychopaths for psychopaths especially those gravitating towards children...
In my opinion, and that of many after research and seeing how certain cases are dealt with, it's quite apparent that a huge chunk of the children's services are utterly corrupt and will take children who are doing OK at home and will steal them away and put them into foster care, where in many cases they are abused in every possible way by the new "carers".
Or, a child in serious need and DANGER will be sent off to such a placement only to realize they've gone out of the dying pan, into the fire.
Sooooo much evidence shows the system is involved in a huge level of abuse and - dare I say - trafficking as a primary reason for the agencies' very existence.
Anyone want to prove me wrong?
I really think that taking everything too seriously, like elevating cat-calls to the level of assault, has overloaded the system and really important cases are falling through the cracks
This is truly one of the worst cases I have ever heard. He hunted her down and was not satisfied until she was dead. How his mother can defend him is beyond me.
My god that poor poor girl actually in tears. This one as got me soooo angry 😤, she must been absolutely terrified
This happens far too often. The poor poor girl. She didn’t deserve this xx
She should be charged for perjury. Lying in court like that.
If they charged and sentenced ppl for covering for others abhorrent behavior, I'm sure ppl would think twice about it.
He coulda moved on and went and found another poor soul to prey on.
Shes in court playing down his 1 hour violent assault???
Courts are too dumb and need to be stricter.
This case is beyond tragic. I was listening to he father being interviewed while shopping and tears were falling. Absolutely heartbreaking and infuriating! 🤬💔
God, my heart breaks that father, hope she's with the angels. Should never have happened.
This is so so sad that poor girl rip Lauren and hugs and best wishes to her family and I hope he rots in jail for ever and a day
I just saw the movie "it ends with us" yesterday, I was in tears throughout. So well done and made me feel for the first time that I see a relationship like my previous one actually explained including growing up with it. As a society we have so much work to do to end femicide and dv. RIP Lauren 🌹🌹🌹
Everyone involved in this horrifying debacle should lose their job, and be sued for every penny they have.
My sympathy to Lauren’s family and friends…. I can’t imagine. What a beautiful and amazing young woman she seemed to be , may she rest in peace ❤️🕊️
This should have never happened. The number of failures that occurred when this monster was let out of the cage he should have stayed in is astonishing !
Excellent work as always, Emma.
Whenever I learn about these stories and victims, the more grateful I am that my own mother got out while me and my brother were young. She does my head in, but she must have some mad strength to have gone through that and walked away.
All over the world, every day - and no government and no court handle the murders of women differently - there should always be immediately an arrest and the prdator should stay in jail why is it always the case, that the freedom of the accust is more important than that of the victim - I will never understand.
So happy to have the extra content to watch today. Thanks Emma, xx I’m such a fan now and have been catching up on older episodes that I have missed.
The bonds board was required to attend court to sign an order which specified his bail conditions. Bond company staff involved should be behind bars charged with her murder too.
I love your deep explanations of human behavior, and I wish more people were aware of the traits that we inhabit .
Thank you so much for covering this. I read about this in the news and it has infuriated me so much.
Omg absolutely devastating for her father, I wouldn’t even want to imagine 😢
That's so true...I got triggered... everything you described so professionally and in depth is so true and real and universal apparently...High level narcissists have all the same traits and it's so weird I find...I also found how people on the streets (in Berlin in the light of day,in Vienna,in Cote d'Azur...),saw him literally know me out to the ground with such force and brutality,and no one interviened... after 20 years of adoring him I ended in a mental hospital...and weirdly enough i dream of him every night and still loves him and ......
I don't understand why he was obsessed with killing the poor girl. What was he trying to prove, and WHY do these men usually feel the need to murder the woman they've beaten, abused, and treated like dirt?
The sarcasm about crack 😂😂😂😂 on point 👌🏼😂
Wow. I am lost for words Emma I hope you take time to release this stuff. Thank you for the love and care you show these people.
This really gave me the chills. Poor girl and I feel so sad for her father.
I found your channel a while ago, really have become one of my favourites. Great work!
What Emma speaks about at the 34:00 -ish mark reminds me of how Brian Laundrie adopted a calm, cool manner when pulled over by the police not long before he killed Gabbie. Sadly, in that case, he was able to make fools of the officers who believed him and labeled Gabbie as unstable because she was emotionally distraught.
Thank you, Emma, for explaining how this can play out.
He reminded me of Brian before I saw the rest of this and the picture of Gabi's sitting and explaining in the back of the police car immediately came up.
I thought of this as well.
Emma you are my hero! You do such an amazing job breaking down these cases! Your insight into human behavior is incredible! I will say this: Everyone should know that if you are ever choked-out by an abusive partner, the chance that they will kill you is higher than for any other crime!! Please people, if you are in an abusive relationship get out! All the promises and please for forgiveness mean absolutely nothing! THEY DO NOT CHANGE! If they hit you that first time it means that they don't see you as a person who is of utmost value!! There is something wrong wiith them, not you! They lack the ability to have true empathy! Please get help!
They need to change the laws around domestic violence. The victim should not have a choice if the person gets charged. They should just get charged and go to jail. This story is so sad.
Systemic failures in this case and not taking DV seriously enough reminds me of the Lauren McCluskey's case from Utah
He's thinking of his mother because she's probably endured the same, his whole life, while he witnessed or allowed the same to happen to him. Haven't gotten that far, but he's clearly got a sick, twisted mother-bond that transfers to the girlfriend. I've dated this guy under a different name, but really, they're all the same. Indistinguishable from one another. Same thing, the judicial system let him out because I had "went back before anyways." I spent 3 days captive and ultimately, after they released him AGAIN for kidnapping me, I left the state and disappeared. Off-grid, to my mom's.
A year later, he killed the next woman's 14 year old son when that son tried to pull him off his mother. I'm not dead because I'm not meant to be, I should be, and that 14 yr. old child is dead since the judicial system literally said essentially the same: what did YOU, the victim do? You'll go back anyway.
I went back because I was afraid the first time. It was kidnapping the 2nd time because I said no, despite the fear. My family cried and said I looked like hamburger meat. My own mother didn't recognize me and thought I was a stranger and sobbed when she realized it was me.
He was released 2 years ago and found me, 25+ years later, trying to resume where we were; after killing that child (involuntary manslaughter because he was beating the kid's mom and didn't realize it was her kid on him). I guess it's because I was his last girlfriend before the murder. It's just to say, that's how f'n sick these men are.
My X used to project like that & I remember the terror so glad I got out of 7 years of it, I know I would be dead if I didn’t get out!! Love all your videos watched everyone, love Wednesdays Fridays & Sundays because of you Emma ❤ xxxx
My ex was amazing according to his friends, I'm lucky to be alive after a 10 month relationship, i was gaslighted within days of getting with him, he had wanted a relationship for a couple of years i didn't, but we got together in 2016 was beaten 2 days after our engagement & then beaten weekly, in late 2016 he almost killed me, he got 6 months probation, I had to move away and start a new life 😢
I’m so glad you guys got out💪🏼❤️
People in the legal system don't always take these situations seriously. I wasn't in a violent relationship like this case but I was raped by a partner. I got told it wasn't rape as I should've been giving it to him anyway. Some think that your partner owns you and your body and are ok to do what they want with your body.
I'm so sorry 😢 it's sickening how little respect women still receive these days. I hope you've received the love and care you need to recover ❤
Emma thank you for covering this in the compassionate and kind way in which it needed to be covered. I always find that you give them utmost compassion to the victims in their families regardless of their situation. It is so unbelievably sad to me a victim of domestic violence, rather or survivor, it is so upsetting and everything you said is true they reduce you down to nothing make you feel like it’s all your fault. You could’ve only done better better said better than you fall into reactive abuse it’s a horrible cycle. If any of Lauren’s friends or family views, this comment know that I pray for her and like candles in her name I’m so sorry for your insurmountable loss.
Oh gosh, her poor father. Breaks my heart. The police 😡
How many people have to die, for them to take this 💩seriously?! 💔 I hope he gets everything, he did to her in prison!!
Nothing better than prison justice ⚖️
This case is one of the worst. I wish so much that she could have gotten a plane ticket to somewhere far away and never been found.
She could’ve, but she probably didn’t want to. After all, he brainwashed her into not testifying against him.
Her Dad is a real man, a real man
The justice system is absolutely PATHETIC at times! this really could have been avoided ,
I’m angry that this beautiful women , lost her life because of this psycho piece of SCUM!🤬 as a mother to a daughter, I cannot imagine! My heart goes out to Lauren , and everyone who was close to her, may she R.I.P🙏🏾💔
I hate everything about this. Humanity is seriously fd. I know why I chose to never get in any kind of relationship. Growing up being abused, neglect, nearly killed more than once... I don't want anyone around me and I would never be able to father children in such a horrible disgusting world.
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Just off track thank you so much for my amazing T- Shirt ❤❤❤❤ amazing quality as always xxx
R.i.p Lauren 😢
Hopefully Rivers meets a guy just like him
Amazing, direct message at the end Emma. Very powerful! I wish I'd had anyone in my life willing to be that direct with me 10 years ago, women need to hear this and keep hearing it until it sinks past all of the clouded, confused and misguided thinking that their partner has put into their heads. From someone who finally got out, thank you!
wow its been while since i last seen any of your vids and what refreshing change with the back gruond,plants look great emma.i am glad be back part of the flock x
i’m really hoping it doesn’t end like this tbh
Your storytelling and situational awareness of the social exchanges are so brilliantly executed…. Unlike my poorly constructed sentence celebrating you. Thanks, Emma
Emma, how does one get in touch with you to outline a case that's relatively unheard of that I think you'd like to cover with your background in child safeguarding, it's a domestic violence case that resulted in murder and it also has a deep five into interpersonal and generational violence. I have the permission of the family involved and I have been asked whether you'd like to cover it.....
If there's a way I could get in touch to give you the details and where to look for the court paperwork,I know that it would be genuinely appreciated. There's a huge story to tell, it barely got the coverage it deserved and it's an older case, I do remember it being a middle page spread in The News of The World (such as it was), but I believe it's a story that you may at least want to consider.
If you have a form of social media that I could at least give you the outline and put you in touch with the relevant parties I made a promise to at least try and contact you so here I am.
I think you just say the victims name on here & hope they see it! That's what I have saw on other channels! Hopefully enough people like this & it gets noticed!! Goodluck!!
@ThePinsay thanks for your advice, unfortunately I can't just leave the victim's name as despite having permission I'd rather it was researched properly than just advertising a name and allowing just anyone that doesn't understand the legal and moral ramifications with regards to the case itself or the families it would go on to affect without due consideration.
It's something I've given great thought to and if the case is to be covered at all it needs sensitivity and handling.
I do think it ought to be talked about but I don't want it sensationalised for the sake of it.
Thanks so much for your reply tho. It was caring and heartfelt and gratefully appreciated.
I don't think I'll get very far with this but I thought I'd try nonetheless.
Take good care of yourself and stay well. Xxx
Boosting this comment. I really hope u are able to get ur case recognised by Emma, or any other true crime youtubers ❤
I absolutely love your input and intelligence on these cases. Much❤
Not Nashville but 40 minutes away in TN, failed so many times by the legal system. I’m sitting here listening to this listening knowing this easily could’ve been me, and I’m so sorry it was Lauren, and I’m so sorry any woman died at the hands of someone they loved. Bless her family, her dad is exactly like mine and I’m also imagining my father going through what he is now and my heart breaks that it is someone elses reality. Women need more protection, too many have been let down by the legal system.
I don’t understand why people are victim blaming & supporting murderers raising money for them when they’re clearly guilty & turning mother slayers into celebrities it’s mind blowing to me, people have lost their minds trying to say she’s the cause of her own demise, she’s the victim not him. RIP Lauren ❤
Aside from the awful events in this case, as a former nurse of 10 years, what is disturbing to me, is the large amount of victims that are nurses or nursing students in these cases! 😳
R I.P sweet Lauren 🤍🕊
EDIT: LMAOOOO smoking crack 😂😂😂😂
I've heard this case told by several RUclipsrs already. But Emma has a way of storytelling unlike any other. Goosebumps..
Her poor dad listening to his daughter in court saying it was all her fault. Must of broken her dads heart
I love your Chanel. I love how you give us such an all round views of the victim and the killer. Thank you Emma for all your great posts.
There was a part in this video where Emma genuinely made me choke up and it's when she's talking about them trying to gaslight you into thinking if YOU behave then things will change. Putting the onus on the victim and how she says never let them fool you.
This hit because I was in a relationship for 10+ years where he verbally, physically and mentally abused me to the point I really believed I was the monster not him.
Four years free of him (he's behind bars now) and I still have moments where I'm like "but what if I had done this differently" - I needed to hear what Emma said because I still get into the habit of blaming myself and I'm still healing even now. Thank you so much ❤
To the case: Lauren was failed by the very constructs that are suppose to protect the abused. I hope the judge sees her face in his dreams and I hope the monster who took her life never gets a moments peace until he takes his last breath.
Been there, done that and I still get I don't know why you stayed or why you married him, we just mistake strength and protection for psycho bullies and still believe we deserve it and you don't leave till you're more scared of staying than leaving and that's a whole lot of fear 😮❤❤❤
It is really terrifying at the end.When you leave they may escalate, and you can't monitor them as easily. Sometimes they even get your friends on their side
Thank you Emma!
Her father💔
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Oh my god those poor parents how did the police not inform them
Hey Emma! Fun fact. The “I got it with a coupon” comment to a compliment is a very Midwestern American thing! We’re kind of known for it 😂 we can’t take a compliment. We always have to list where we bought it ESPECIALLY if it was thrifted or from a resell kind of store like TJMaxx.
So true well said Emma they can never change its who they are. RIP to this stunning looking angel
Lauren's Dad is a hero. And i do agree with Emma get out but please becareful the moment you leave is the moment your abuser will be at their most dangerous . Stay safe and live free.
You are incredible at this. Love hearing everything you research and real opinions re any area.
Another fantastic honest insight into a sick tragedy that was 100% AAVOIDABLE!!!!
Thank You Emma. 💐🍀
Thank you so much for covering for this ❤ Your words of encouragement at the end brought me to tears, so many monsters roam this earth. Rest in perfect peace beautiful Lauren x
What a terrible, needless loss of a beautiful bright light. I cried so much for her Dad...they could have saved her if they'd done their jobs, if they'd done ANYTHING.
The downside of teen sports stars with pretty privilege is galloping malignant narcissism. Boy Mum has a LOT to answer for here.
My heart breaks for Lauren and her family and friends. I've experienced being in a DV Relationship. They followed me to another country, convinced me to get back with them, and bullied me into standing trail and tell the courts what a good person they were. The fear and terror Lauren must have been feeling is unfathomable to me. I am so sad she lost her life and opportunities to move on from this monster. I hope judge Cheryl has been struck off for her thoughtless and dangerous decision.
I live in Nashville... the jail and courts are not run smoothly. They constantly let domestic abuse victims down. (My friend Marie Varsos was one.. please google her name); the Blackburns are also a corrupt political family here in our area.
I finally caught a live! Hello from
Colorado.
Ten years down the line and I’m still fully aware my ex is trying to locate me and my girls, these people never give up
I was blamed when my ex partner started to hit and strangle me when I was 7 months pregnant.... his family took his side and I was convinced it was my fault. My parents helped me escape when my son was 3 months old and it was only years later when I looked into narcissistic abuse that I saw the light. I was 30 when this happened and a medical professional- it can happen to anyone.
IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT- GET OUT - RUN ❤ BE BRAVE BE STRONG X
Thanks for covering this Emma.I'd never heard of this case but,find all the failings of the various organisations/authorities astounding.Its such a shame that this keeps happening & that it takes the devastating loss of a beautiful victim like Lauren to raise awareness & for more questions to be asked.Surely,some lessons have to be learned from cases such as this but,sadly,it always seems 'too little,too late'.
Thanks again.
*Btw,as a side note,it was lovely meeting you at your book signing at Waterstones in the Arndale Centre a couple of weeks ago...thanks so much for being so lovely.xx
Always like before I’ve even watched as I know the way you tell there stories is on form every time x
I’ve experienced da. Many years ago when I was young. It’s very difficult for people to understand. I never told my parents about it.And I’ve heard my own father say things like, why do they stay.
In my own case. I stayed because he threatened to kill my parents if I left. And our dogs. And he was a loose cannon. Capable of anything. I couldn’t tell my dad that. But things like this. This is why we stay. It’s not because we’re idiots. ❤
I know exactly how you feel 😢
🌹,keep up the good work 👏
This 1 hits home. R.i.p beautiful girl 💔 xx
Trauma bonds are real... and deadly. There needs to be eduction in schools about DV and cognitive dissonance when relationships turn toxic. Thanks for the video Emma... as a domestic abuse recovery facilitator, i find your message clear and loud for all of those who arent aware.
It's a cycle that cannot be broke, even here the presenter says "shes a victim and 100% not to blame". Yet she stood up in court and LIED about what happened.
He could of got a reduced sentence, he coulda got out in 3 years and found sum other woman and on his court documents he could of convinced the next woman "I'm innocent,, look she said she attacked me first".
Not sure why that whole situation isnt called out and called out as something very inappropriate??
Totally random beginning of the video comment. I saw you featured as an expert on a documentary I watched the other day! I usually don’t “watch” these. Adhd means I can’t. I color while listening to documentaries. I heard your voice and HAD to look. Much love and appreciation for your work, Emma. (My baby nieces name is Emma 💜)
My heart goes out to her family and friends 😢😢😢!
The law should say that if the police found her as they did, that guy having no marks....he remains behind bard. Full stop!
Calm Cool and Calculated ... I've met them before and Soulless Eyes... Not just Scary , Terrifying. sounds almost blow by blow of my marriage...❤️💚💜🇨🇦
Poor Lauren! It never ceases to amaze me how someone can hurt someone so badly that they love & Ive experienced it! Looking back I dont even recognise myself in that relationship & thankful I got out of it! Thank you for the way you have covered this Emma!
Heartbreaking. My heart goes out to Lauren, her family and those like her.
However, Emmas crack comment did make me chuckle.