For sure you had to go out of your way back then to find out and learn about MJ. Now you can stumble upon a rabbit hole of a person on social media and know everything about them in minutes...
Ric Flair: To be the man, you gotta beat the man. Winner mentality. MJ: To compete to win. It's all I live for. Winner mentality. LeBron: It's just basketball. Loser mentality.
@@TheRealMindCrime Yeah, when I was young (I'm prolly your age, born 1983) I didn't have that kind of money, not to mention the Iron Curtain just fell (Bulgaria, Eastern Europe) so we didn't have easy access to Western goods. Today, I exclusively wear Air Maxes, but also have 2 pairs of Jordans (Stay Loyal 2 & 3). Will Never buy Lebron's shoes, even I liked few designs.
MJ had to earn everything. The respect from other players. His accolades. Every championship. I think people who never seen him play. Don't understand that.
I hate so much that statement of "LeBum James is the most complete player ever" how TF is not playing any defense being complete? How is having a 75 FT % being complete? How is having a -40% outside of 3ft shot being complete? How is 5 turnovers per game being complete... LeFraud is and always will be just a big dude abusing his size in a league with smaller and skinnier players, he's 100% a score first guy but since he can't handle the rock he has to make emergency passes whenever he can't bulldoze his opponents. I saw him his entire career, I had huge hopes for him, a 6'9 dude athletic as all hell, gave him a couple of years... same moves from highschool... some more years same moves... never learned anything, evolved anything or grew in any way, all he got was whinier and more and more toxic. In other words F LeBalco, Good thing is that I'm sure that as time moves forward people will realize how garbage he was and is.
BJ and paxson are definitley underrated and never get the credit they deserve. Plus BJ always has great MJ stories and hes good at telling those stories too!
Yeah i like BJ's stories a lot. BJ was a big part of that 93 team as he was hitting his peak. I always liked him. Pax is just a fantastic spot up shooter that was perfect for the team
When they break his career into those three phases, that more accurately represents how we felt watching him in real time. We watched Michael be the greatest statistical player, then step away and come back as a highly motivated assassin... training to the point of zero weaknesses. And then the third era of the smartest team player and master of the game. The overlooked Wizard years were icing on the cake... or a Marvel Comics post credit scene by the best Basketball Player Ever. ☮❤🎶
Honestly we all were robbed when the Krause broke up the bulls in 98. MJ would have been even greater as a veteran leader. We got a small glimpse of what could have been during the wizards years
@@muhammadujaama631 They got away with barely paying Jordan until those late seasons when they finally had to open up their wallets to catch him up to the rest of the league. Those salary demands are one of the things keeping teams from ever being as well balanced top to bottom as those late 90's Bulls.
As great it would be to see how the 98 bulls continue their journey and what they might have accomplished, on the flip side imagine also how washed and soft the NBA would got if the bar from Jordan was even higher😢
Like charles from dreamerspro channel has said before "MJ is the only player where the more you research his career, the more freakier it gets" and i completely agree. Never ending little records or facts that are mind blowing.
As a 90s kid who watched a ton of basketball with my family, there’s no question MJ is the goat. We were lakers fans, but we watched almost all of Michael’s games. What a time. It almost makes me sick seeing what basketball has become today…
your comment "this makes me want to go watch the last dance" was me a couple months ago after watching your videos. i watched the entire series that week.
Management did a great job after 95. They added a ton of beef. They prepared for Shaq. They had at least 3 centers to throw at Shaq. Langley, Wenningron, various others. The Bulls even got Parrish another ring. Everybody fit their roles perfectly. You know Steve Kerr, Randy Brown, Jud Buechler, etc…, because of Michael and Phil. The greatest coach player combination in history.
Ever notice no one argues when it's Bron vs any nba legend. It's only when they say MJ that people of a certain generation say hold up slow down. It's because you didn't see what we saw in real time every game. Today, they're blown away by stats and highlights, but this was an every night thing for MJ.
I tried scrolling through the comments, but didn’t see anyone comment this, so apologize if someone already did, but MJ wore number 12 that one game because his jersey was stolen, so the equipment manager had to give him a random backup jersey for that game. Also, it’s a small thing, but it annoyed the hell out of my that the narrator said twice that MJ missed the majority of the 1985-86 season with an “ankle injury” - he had a broken bone in his foot. Feels better getting that off my chest 😆 Just came across your channel and love it. Sounds like we’re around the same age and had the same MJ experience.
The whole "Jordan didn't trust his teammates" isn't true. They just weren't that good and missed open shot after open shot. Go watch the games. You'll see Jordan hitting his teammates with dimes only for them to miss wide open shots. MJ was always a team player. He just didn't have a team.
10 triple doubles in 11 games? OMG, for all the Lebabyoil stat boys, watcha say 'bout dat?? - All of us who watched him then, new then and now, that nobody would likely ever be close, in our lifetime, to MJ ... So many of these crazy stats, back that up-
I still hate when people say that Jordan passed to Paxon. Jordan who was bringing the ball up the court from an in bound, was double teamed in the backcourt, he passed to Pip, Pip to Grant, Grant to Paxon.
It is crazy how many people just HEARD "Pippen guarded Magic in 1991" then ran with that narrative without actually watching the games like they're all available on RUclips I think they aren't hard to find do some research! "I just want to make the Chicago Bulls organization to be respected" Yeah what an Ahole...worst narrative ever created about him IMO. He was militant yes doesn't make him a jerk though and honestly from the stuff I've seen he wasn't eve that "tough" he just demanded you work like that was it he ddin't want you to work harder than him just AS hard as him. Also I mean I know WHY but why do so many people ignore MJ's Gold Medal wins yet these same people wasted no time in saying "If LeBalco wins the gold medal he is the GOAT"
The story about Jordan wearing the number 12 jersey was that on Valentine's Day (I think it was 90) someone stole his 23 and he had to wear the no name back up jersey.
You can also add the how many times Jordan and Pippen didn't play in the 4th quarter, while icing their knees and laughing on the bench due to the Bulls blowing out the other teams so many times during the second 3peat. They were just destroyin fools.
The Jordan and Pippen backcourt was the tag team champions of backcourt perimeter defense, the greatest defensive backcourt of all-time and you're right about them switching of on Magic and other great perimeter players.
I really don’t argue about the GOAT anymore so much as I ask this question: If a genie pops out of a bottle and tells you that you could wake up tomorrow with all the game skills and the career of any player in history, who would you be? I know my answer.
The subtle passive aggressiveness in that video was tolerable but the jock sniffing of LeBron at the end completely ruined it. LeBron, even after 22 years, is still not statistically the GOAT.
18:55 LIES!!! They both guarded Magic (Jordan was still his primary defender). Jordan has been carrying that narrative to appease Scottie's insecurities.
If Basketball was an anime, MJ would be the Mythical Protagonist (i.e All-Might, Saitama, Ainz Ool Gown) that no one could comprehend let alone get close to and doesn't even need to participate except to remind everyone of his dominance.
@ i always thought he was more that noble that got pimp slapped to death by Sebas (Bird or Barkley, take your pick) Edit in b4 the Bronsexuals: This opinion comes because as all the hooptubers have pointed out. We don't care if others make a case for Lebron being the goat, its the fact that He Himself keeps trying to not only enter but end the conversation. If He didnt we would most likely smile and say "I respect your opinion" and move on.
The triangle wasn't meant to have a dominant scorer, ball constantly moves an fact Jordan was going over with no problem shooting 48-50% in that era makes no sense at all. Jordan was unreal an alot of his detractors they simply can't accept someone was that elite having no epic meltdowns or choke jobs that outweigh his good.
Imagine if Jordan played with todays defense and the "gather step." Jordan might average 65 nowadays. Some of these young fans don't understand how good he was. Also, my father is a huge celtics fan. He even says Jordan is the best there ever was at any sport, ever.
Scottie emergence created a space for Jordan, that was insane, that only means MJ was already a monster without that space created and became more than a monster when he finally got unleashed due to Pip’s emergence. Damn, MJ was a monster among men.
Shannon Sharpe: With the game on the line...who would you pass the ball for the last shot? Lebron: ME! ( 2 hrs later with the game on the line The Lakers needed a shot to win the game) *Lebron passes the ball to Austin Reeves who had 2 defenders on him for the last shot* *AIRBALL*
I like their video but the Scottie pippen narrative is blown out of proportion. Michael was the primary defender on magic and actually logged more mins on magic than pippen. They also failed to mention In game 3 pippen fouled out and Michael hit a late bucket with secs on the clock to force ot where he then proceeded to guard magic and held him to 0pts, 0rebs and 0assist while scoring almost all of the bulls pts in OT all while PIPPEN WAS ON THE BENCH. Pippen even admitted that the plan was to keep Michael primarily on magic throughout the series after they won the chip
@@ijamorris I agree a lot of people give Scottie pippen too much credit for the defense, when Michael Jordan was elite on defense he was not garbage not saying that the real time machine was doing that but the guy that narrated the video he kind of hold back on giving Michael his proper props off of his defense.
I remember Jordan having trouble guarding Magic, because of his size. Especially, in the lane. And, maybe the Bulls needed Pippen to guard Worthy. Otherwise, Jordan's the best lock-down defender that I've ever seen. Pippen's on-ball defense consisted mostly of hacking.
I had that sports illustrated, I also had every poster that was in print, simmering like 60! They covered every square inch of my walls and ceiling and on my door was the life-size with the measurements of Jordan poster
For me the greatest Bulls team ever has to be one with Rodman. I'd probably go for 1996 with 72 wins You are right, no one wanted Dennis. Man they only had to give Will Perdue for him
Lol yeah. After San Antonio Dennis had the worst reputation. Also Dennis didn't really care to play. Something about the Bulls gave him a rebirth lol. He came back ready to win with MJ
MJ Hakeem Robinson Garnett Giannis MVP and DPOY Also, just for context, game 6 in PHX 4th quarter, Chicago only scored 12pts and 9 of those are from MJ. Also, it's Krause's fault why he torched your Suns (well 90% of the reason) for saying in the media that Thunder Dan was a great defender. So in typical MJ fashion, he took it personally. Story with the number 12 was someone stole his jersey (Magic staff if I remember correctly) then the Bulls tried to go around the arena to look for a Bulls 23 jersey but they couldn't find one that would fit MJ,. So, they only have the nameless 12 and if you look closely it barely fit him as well. 😁He scored 49 points that game
Just a thought here. The Wizards years. If he hadn't gotten hurt. How long do u think he wouldve played? Cuz he was turning back into 98' MJ again. And I personally think the reason he didn't keep playing was because he got hurt. I think he wouldve played an additional 2 years more
I mean...if he didn't get hurt then i think they would've made the playoffs the first year. So by the second they'd be doing great. 3rd...who knows. But i think he would've played 4 years total if not for injuries.
@TheRealMindCrime 4 years is pretty much what I was thinking as well. Man if he wouldve won a chip there?! There would NEVER be a debate of who the GOAT is. It's foolish now, it wouldn't be possible after that
39:56 minutes => " Lebron James must be the most complete player " Say what ?!?!?! "THE MOST COMPLETE" ?! Come on, come on! Is he a great defender like MJ was ?! Did he won dunk contests like MJ won?! Does he give all in the field like we are seeing right now?! Did MJ made so much travelling like Lebron did?! Did MJ missed so many throws or airballs like Lebron did?! Come on, to be the GOAT or the most complete player, all of these and more must count! Oh man.... " Most Complete " .... oh man.... sorry., i'm still really disapointed with this statement taking all in account. But the video is quite good. Peace 2 all and merry xmas guys
Jordan was a stone cold assassin. The result of the game was NEVER in doubt, and he delivered every single time. It was almost predestined. He was a man playing vs. boys.
on top of being only one of 5 to win the MVP and defensive player of the year (one of 3 if in the same year)... 1987-88 MJ was also the top scorer . maybe he was the one who needed a bit more help at the time 😂😂😂
33:12 The way the commentator is talking is annoying me because it sounds like he's using LeBron/Klutch Sports talking points. They sound like jabs. 4 HOF players, repeating THE MOST ACCURATE 3 POINT SHOOTER OF ALL TIME on the same team. 😒 Kerr was making only a 3 per game, terrible defender, his playoff numbers were cheeks etc like we're not dumb and I can see what he's trying to do. There's other points in the video where he throws little jabs when a simple rebuttal with context and common sense would make him edit his script. Shit annoys me
I might just watch the last Dance again for Christmas. That documentary brings back a lot of fun memories back in 2020. I know it was a rough year but we made it through
Loved this banger! I agree my 98 Jazz were the best team we’ve ever had, although it was 1993 when the Bulls came to Utah when I got to watch them in person. So good
So cool! Yeah...that 98 Jazz team was just such a solid team from top to bottom. And you had revenge fueling you as well. I'm still kinda shocked MJ pulled it off in that insane game 6. It was all collapsing on his head but he still found a way to win.
Were the Pistons really on the decline, though? Rodman(DPOTY/1st team All Defense) was at his best, Dumars was at his best (All NBA 3rd team, and All Defense 2nd team, All Star) and the team still won 50 games and ranked #1 defense with Zeke missing half the season. If he was healthy, they would have been 60+ wins also, shit it might have been their best team reg season. Zeke's wrist surgery was in Jan. 91, was already back before playoffs and had several 20+ and 15+ games. He was just really inconsistent in the playoffs but how much of that is that he got locked up? Injuries are part of the game. He was out there playing 40 minutes. If MJ was doing that with his hurt wrist in 93 Finals against the Suns and lost or 91 Finals with his hurt toe and lost, we'd never stop hearing about how MJ was a loser. Isiah played 78 games in 92 and had near equal numbers he had during their championship run so it wasn't a decline. The Bulls were just far and away eclipsing the best that the Pistons ever were and the 91-93 or 96-98 Bulls would beat any of the Pistons championship teams.
and yet another common narrative "Phil turned the series around when he switched Pippen on Magic" that's more complete bogus narrative. Pippen defended him full court and still almost got scored on and thats the famous play that created that narrative, but reality is he didn't defend him any more than Jordan did. Yes Magic could post Jordan and had tougher time on Pippens length, but Jordan did solid on him as well. Here's Pippen's own quote “Defensively, we did it together. I can't take the credit and he can't take the credit,” Pippen told Jack McCallum in 20112. “In '91, I got some credit for defending Magic, but Michael defended him too. We wore him down together.”
I like how he doesn't mention the forgotten part about the Jordan spectacular move, that it was his 13th consecutive FG. It's topping off all those straight points and making the game insurmountable that made it so much more iconic than just a really "extra" layup
i hope that the video does not imply that it is because the bulls drafted pippen and got phil as the coach that made the bulls a championship team. they still learn how to play with the team.
I'm curious realmindcrime, why didn't #50 on that georgetown team commit to Jordan's shot? Dude has his back turned and going towards the basket, which I understand probably going for a rebound, but still Ewing is right there. I would have jumped like Rasheed did on Elliot in the 99 western finals. Although once again this brings up bad memories as the Blazers lost yet again
I think the defense was so caught off guard thinking Worthy was gonna get the shot that by the time he realized MJ was shooting all he could do is hope to get the rebound.
I forgot who’s video it was but someone debunked the pippen guarded magic and stuff. Might have been uncut, but pippen guarded him in game 2 I believe and had a great game. Jordan then become the primary defender in game 3..and let’s just say magic didn’t have a great game lol I really hate hearing “LeBron is the most complete basketball player” is he though? Average/mediocre ball handling, footwork, post game. Not clutch, can’t shoot, can’t shoot FT, horrible leader, loser mentality…like how is THAT the most complete basketball player??? I think Jordan is the most complete basketball and everything shows it, eye test and stats and accolades
ahh bs.. go back and watch those early Bulls years, he passed a lot.. just team mates werent hitting most of the open shots he gave them.. he showed in college he was happy to be #3.. as long as tthe other 2 are doing thier job well..
I don’t understand why a casual NBA fan would create a video of Michael Jordan……and not be a fan of His Airness? During the whole video he takes little jabs and false statements…He even brings up that other scrub with more lies, smh!
5 players to win NBA & DPOY: Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Kevin Garnett and Giannis Antetokounmpo Only MJ, Hakeem and Giannis won both awards in same season
14:00 i think it has more to do with what the gameplay is, what role he was told to fulfill.. because the bulls know how good jordan is from the start, pre- phil jackson bulls centered their offense on him add the fact that the league didnt have a formula yet for a team with no dominant big man, i believe they just didnt have an idea how to optimize MJ's arsenal.. MJ's triple doubles and high assist numbers when he was told to play the point supports this opinion as well.. Jordan isn't a stereotypiical score first guy, he was a super athletic player with a great knowledge of the game and a disciplined mind that makes him coachable, versatile and confident to play any role on both sides of the floor..
Yeah that video had a lot of facts but also a lot of cap. MJ wasn’t a ball hog early in his career because he wanted to be. He needed to be or they wouldn’t win. MJ had more assists his rookie season than Larry Bird did in his. MJ didn’t have the talent Larry did either as so many perfect passes to teammates became missed layups or bricks from his teammates. Don’t get me started with the lack of respect for Tex Winters Triangle as that video tried to give Pippen the credit for it all. Also Pippen didn’t relieve MJ from defense. MJ would cover weak side and hover everywhere. Hardly resting.
Another thing to point out was that MJ had no all star selection player at the time of joining the Bulls at any point in the nineties. Mind you that Scottie joined before he was considered an all star.
"Many people believed that he (Barkley) could be an even better player than Michael" There is not one person in the Milky Way Galaxy who, ever, at any time thought Barkley could ever be as good a player as Jordan.
39:08 way to destroy a decent documentary 🤡 Kobe and Duncan were best until 2010. Lebron got beaten by Dirk's Mavs. then KD and Steph took over. a good video would be "was there ever a year Lebron was the best player in the league?"
Carrying and traveling on numerous possessions in countless games is an actual weakness for basketball players. Bad shooting outside of 3 feet is a definite weakness in basketball.
This is a great video! I do have some reservations about the idea that MJ didn’t pass the ball early in his career. As you said, that was the only way to win. I’ve watched some old games, and many times MJ did pass the ball to open teammates, only for them to miss very easy jumpers. The worst offender was Corzine, who used to miss dunks and layups regularly; so, who in their right mind would prefer to pass to teammates knowing they’d probably miss more often than not?
Exactly. So MJ would have to take over in the 4th to try to win but he was never selfish or a ball hog. MJ was shooting 50-55% from the field most games back then so even with 3 bodies on him he was still the best option to win in the 4th lol
Two of the ones I remember are Olajuwon and David Robinson. Looking it up KG and Giannis are the other two. Robinson and KG did not win the awards in the same year though. Also, you are correct in that it was always 6 in the finals outside the Lakers.
Yes sir you are correct! (asking if Jordan's Bulls won in 6 with exception of the 91 Finals where they reverse swept the Lakers) You were also right on cue about LeBron taking time off recently and now he's playing a whole lot better :: cough PED's cough :: LeBalco has arrived for my Lakers..ugh....I barely watch them as I want LeCheat GONE first!!!!
The Wiz in context adds to his greatness. He had a 19 win team from the year before in the playoffs (4th seed I think) until he messed up his patella. MJ lead the team in ppg, apg, steals, and was 3rd in rebounds. Rip was the only other player to ave 20 pts, no one else ave more than 10.2 pts, no one but MJ ave more than 3.8 assists, and Popeye Jones lead the team in rpg at 7.2. That was a truly crap team that MJ was carrying to the playoffs. They still almost made the playoffs even after MJ had to have surgery because they were so good when MJ played.
New meaning of the GOAT : Basketball God of all times ! Did you noticed this curisous fact that during MJ's 3 first finals it was an occasion to challenge himself against his rival by trying to be better than him on his own territory (91 : 11 assists vs Magic, 92 : the 3's vs Drexler, 93 : more points than Barkley + his finals high 8.5 rebounds per game). About 3 peat, I think one untold reason why the Pistons were so disappointed in 1991 is that if they had won, they had a chance to 3 peat first, and be the first team for a while to do that. Thomas's legacy and his ranking in GOAT debate would have be seen differently, equal or even superior to Bird's 80s Celtics. MJ ruined this opportunity.
Being a child of the 90s I never thought in 2024 that MJ's greatness would be a question. Crazy world man
It's only a question for newbys with a Lebabyoil agenda... :) We all know, there's no doubt, no question. MJ is and always will be the GOAT-...
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It really is. I never thought I'd live to see a day where revisionist history would be a thing. But here we are.
The fact that Jordan was well known globally without social media tells you a lot about his Superstar status. 🏀🌎👍💪🏆
A lot of people in Germany have never heard of lbj... but even the young people all know mj, although they aren't even into basketball
For real. It really does
For sure you had to go out of your way back then to find out and learn about MJ. Now you can stumble upon a rabbit hole of a person on social media and know everything about them in minutes...
Ric Flair: To be the man, you gotta beat the man. Winner mentality.
MJ: To compete to win. It's all I live for. Winner mentality.
LeBron: It's just basketball. Loser mentality.
Yessir! ☝️
I never seen a guy in Germany wearing Lebron Shoes. But people still wear Jordans 25 years after his retirement.
MJ is timeless.
Samw here in the USA lol
@@TheRealMindCrime Yeah, when I was young (I'm prolly your age, born 1983) I didn't have that kind of money, not to mention the Iron Curtain just fell (Bulgaria, Eastern Europe) so we didn't have easy access to Western goods. Today, I exclusively wear Air Maxes, but also have 2 pairs of Jordans (Stay Loyal 2 & 3).
Will Never buy Lebron's shoes, even I liked few designs.
MJ had to earn everything. The respect from other players. His accolades. Every championship. I think people who never seen him play. Don't understand that.
Exactly. People who don't know assume it was easy because the numbers 6-0 make it look easy. But it wasn't. They had to earn every win
Earning it makes a man outta you.
Michael Jordan earned all of our respect and definitely earned the right to be called the greatest
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Grand rising my friend, I can never get enough of MJ video, thanks bro.
Good morning! Then you'll definitely enjoy the back to back mj vids coming on the 23rd lol.
I hate so much that statement of "LeBum James is the most complete player ever" how TF is not playing any defense being complete? How is having a 75 FT % being complete? How is having a -40% outside of 3ft shot being complete? How is 5 turnovers per game being complete...
LeFraud is and always will be just a big dude abusing his size in a league with smaller and skinnier players, he's 100% a score first guy but since he can't handle the rock he has to make emergency passes whenever he can't bulldoze his opponents.
I saw him his entire career, I had huge hopes for him, a 6'9 dude athletic as all hell, gave him a couple of years... same moves from highschool... some more years same moves... never learned anything, evolved anything or grew in any way, all he got was whinier and more and more toxic.
In other words F LeBalco,
Good thing is that I'm sure that as time moves forward people will realize how garbage he was and is.
Agreed
BJ and paxson are definitley underrated and never get the credit they deserve. Plus BJ always has great MJ stories and hes good at telling those stories too!
Yeah i like BJ's stories a lot. BJ was a big part of that 93 team as he was hitting his peak. I always liked him. Pax is just a fantastic spot up shooter that was perfect for the team
@@TheRealMindCrime Pax was clutch. Almost as cold as MJ. That dude had ice in his veins.
Joe Dumars stayed behind to shake their hands!
When they break his career into those three phases, that more accurately represents how we felt watching him in real time. We watched Michael be the greatest statistical player, then step away and come back as a highly motivated assassin... training to the point of zero weaknesses. And then the third era of the smartest team player and master of the game. The overlooked Wizard years were icing on the cake... or a Marvel Comics post credit scene by the best Basketball Player Ever. ☮❤🎶
Honestly we all were robbed when the Krause broke up the bulls in 98. MJ would have been even greater as a veteran leader.
We got a small glimpse of what could have been during the wizards years
@@muhammadujaama631 They got away with barely paying Jordan until those late seasons when they finally had to open up their wallets to catch him up to the rest of the league. Those salary demands are one of the things keeping teams from ever being as well balanced top to bottom as those late 90's Bulls.
Well said!
As great it would be to see how the 98 bulls continue their journey and what they might have accomplished, on the flip side imagine also how washed and soft the NBA would got if the bar from Jordan was even higher😢
"How good was Michael Jordan, actually."
The best.
Like charles from dreamerspro channel has said before "MJ is the only player where the more you research his career, the more freakier it gets" and i completely agree. Never ending little records or facts that are mind blowing.
I definitely agree with that
As a 90s kid who watched a ton of basketball with my family, there’s no question MJ is the goat. We were lakers fans, but we watched almost all of Michael’s games. What a time. It almost makes me sick seeing what basketball has become today…
Same. We were suns fans but watched bulls games like it was a religion lol
your comment "this makes me want to go watch the last dance" was me a couple months ago after watching your videos. i watched the entire series that week.
Lol thats awesome. I watched it again about 6 months ago but I'm kinda itching to do it again because each time i learn something new
Jordan is the GOAT! also Angry Old Hoops has a breakdown of the narrative of Scottie defending Magic. When it came to win, Jordan found a way to
I think i saw that breakdown from AOH a while back. Good stuff
Good Morning great way to start my morning with the real true goat
Good mornin to ya!
Somebody broke into the locker room and stole his Jersey. So he had to use the #12 jersey. 😂😂😂
Thats right! Lol
The two greatest michaels came in the 80s and 90s MJ and MJ no one like them before or after
Agreed
Management did a great job after 95. They added a ton of beef. They prepared for Shaq. They had at least 3 centers to throw at Shaq. Langley, Wenningron, various others. The Bulls even got Parrish another ring. Everybody fit their roles perfectly. You know Steve Kerr, Randy Brown, Jud Buechler, etc…, because of Michael and Phil. The greatest coach player combination in history.
Ever notice no one argues when it's Bron vs any nba legend. It's only when they say MJ that people of a certain generation say hold up slow down. It's because you didn't see what we saw in real time every game. Today, they're blown away by stats and highlights, but this was an every night thing for MJ.
It really was. He was the most consistently dominant player I've ever seen in any sport. Ever
Undisputed. Great vid boss👌👊
Thank you Agentsmith!
That 91 series was humbling....im a huge lakers fan, although not right now w Lefraud
Same here same here
I tried scrolling through the comments, but didn’t see anyone comment this, so apologize if someone already did, but MJ wore number 12 that one game because his jersey was stolen, so the equipment manager had to give him a random backup jersey for that game. Also, it’s a small thing, but it annoyed the hell out of my that the narrator said twice that MJ missed the majority of the 1985-86 season with an “ankle injury” - he had a broken bone in his foot. Feels better getting that off my chest 😆 Just came across your channel and love it. Sounds like we’re around the same age and had the same MJ experience.
The whole "Jordan didn't trust his teammates" isn't true. They just weren't that good and missed open shot after open shot. Go watch the games. You'll see Jordan hitting his teammates with dimes only for them to miss wide open shots. MJ was always a team player. He just didn't have a team.
Exactly
10 triple doubles in 11 games? OMG, for all the Lebabyoil stat boys, watcha say 'bout dat?? - All of us who watched him then, new then and now, that nobody would likely ever be close, in our lifetime, to MJ ... So many of these crazy stats, back that up-
Lol yuuup
I still hate when people say that Jordan passed to Paxon.
Jordan who was bringing the ball up the court from an in bound, was double teamed in the backcourt, he passed to Pip, Pip to Grant, Grant to Paxon.
And neither Pip nor grant wanted anything to do with that last shot even though both had good looks.
It is crazy how many people just HEARD "Pippen guarded Magic in 1991" then ran with that narrative without actually watching the games like they're all available on RUclips I think they aren't hard to find do some research! "I just want to make the Chicago Bulls organization to be respected" Yeah what an Ahole...worst narrative ever created about him IMO. He was militant yes doesn't make him a jerk though and honestly from the stuff I've seen he wasn't eve that "tough" he just demanded you work like that was it he ddin't want you to work harder than him just AS hard as him. Also I mean I know WHY but why do so many people ignore MJ's Gold Medal wins yet these same people wasted no time in saying "If LeBalco wins the gold medal he is the GOAT"
100% MJ just wanted to go out there and do his bosses proud. And he did that 6x over lol.
The story about Jordan wearing the number 12 jersey was that on Valentine's Day (I think it was 90) someone stole his 23 and he had to wear the no name back up jersey.
Which was a hilarious story and funny as hell.
I believe it was a security guard if memory serves lol
Yeah I think it was a security guard who took it lol. Comments in here reminding me about it. We shall all forever remember Sam Vincent for this 😆
@TheRealMindCrime dude to be honest, I didn't know who Sam Vincent was when you said that. I honestly thought he was the one who stole the 23 jersey 😂
@thesun yeah lol. Nah, we just knoe Sam because of that 1990 hoops card
You can also add the how many times Jordan and Pippen didn't play in the 4th quarter, while icing their knees and laughing on the bench due to the Bulls blowing out the other teams so many times during the second 3peat. They were just destroyin fools.
Yeah that second 3 peat was fun to see MJ, pip, and harp laughing on the bench while the backups hold it down in 4th during blowouts. Good memories
The Jordan and Pippen backcourt was the tag team champions of backcourt perimeter defense, the greatest defensive backcourt of all-time and you're right about them switching of on Magic and other great perimeter players.
Sometimes they'd fight each other about who gets to guard the best player lol. They were dawgs lol
I watched this few days ago and looking forward to your video reaction. thanks.
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Heeeeeeey love the channel, Saludos desde México
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I really don’t argue about the GOAT anymore so much as I ask this question:
If a genie pops out of a bottle and tells you that you could wake up tomorrow with all the game skills and the career of any player in history, who would you be?
I know my answer.
Lol. I definitely know my answer too
The subtle passive aggressiveness in that video was tolerable but the jock sniffing of LeBron at the end completely ruined it.
LeBron, even after 22 years, is still not statistically the GOAT.
Yup lol
Yes I have that sports illustrated. I was subscribed to SI from 82 to 92
Ohhhh lucky!
18:55 LIES!!! They both guarded Magic (Jordan was still his primary defender). Jordan has been carrying that narrative to appease Scottie's insecurities.
100%
Jordan, Hakeem, Giannis, David Robinson and Kevin Garnett all won both awards
When I looked it up, it was Dwight Howard, GP, and David Robinson, and now Rudy Gobert.
@704Nike what the hell you was looking at lol? Cause GP Dwight Howard and Rudy never won the MVP
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@@TheRealMindCrime yessir gotta help an OG out
If Basketball was an anime, MJ would be the Mythical Protagonist (i.e All-Might, Saitama, Ainz Ool Gown) that no one could comprehend let alone get close to and doesn't even need to participate except to remind everyone of his dominance.
Lol this is so true
Yeah and LeBron would be King (to Saitama), always in his shadows and getting fame:)
@ i always thought he was more that noble that got pimp slapped to death by Sebas (Bird or Barkley, take your pick)
Edit in b4 the Bronsexuals: This opinion comes because as all the hooptubers have pointed out. We don't care if others make a case for Lebron being the goat, its the fact that He Himself keeps trying to not only enter but end the conversation. If He didnt we would most likely smile and say "I respect your opinion" and move on.
The triangle wasn't meant to have a dominant scorer, ball constantly moves an fact Jordan was going over with no problem shooting 48-50% in that era makes no sense at all. Jordan was unreal an alot of his detractors they simply can't accept someone was that elite having no epic meltdowns or choke jobs that outweigh his good.
Agreed. His shooting percentage always impresses me. Especially in that era of defense. Its crazy
The list of mvp and dpoy winners in the same season is Jordan, Olajuwon, David Robinson, Kevin Garnett and Giannis Antetokounmpo.
You da man charles!
Imagine if Jordan played with todays defense and the "gather step." Jordan might average 65 nowadays. Some of these young fans don't understand how good he was. Also, my father is a huge celtics fan. He even says Jordan is the best there ever was at any sport, ever.
Multiple stat guys say he would ave a 40 pt triple double, and do it easily.
Teams had to make sure they get a good night's rest before playing MJ and the Bulls. Definition of Goat
Mj was a god warrior....ferocious, deadly, unstoppable
FYI.... Jordan, Olajuwon, David Robinson, Kevin Garnett and Giannis Antetokounmpo all won MVP and DPOY in the same yr. (Had to look it up 🤣)
Scottie emergence created a space for Jordan, that was insane, that only means MJ was already a monster without that space created and became more than a monster when he finally got unleashed due to Pip’s emergence. Damn, MJ was a monster among men.
Agreed
This video feels like being it's cautious of insulting Lebron :))
The Nonstop video I mean :))
Yeah its nonstop lol.
How is Lebron more complete than Jordan when MJ was far superior on defense?
Superior on offense and defense lol. Its a joke that people compare lebron to mj.
Jordan better ball handler, shooter, finisher, passer, rebounder, etc. Jordan was better at everything. Hell, he probably still is.
Shannon Sharpe: With the game on the line...who would you pass the ball for the last shot?
Lebron: ME!
( 2 hrs later with the game on the line The Lakers needed a shot to win the game)
*Lebron passes the ball to Austin Reeves who had 2 defenders on him for the last shot*
*AIRBALL*
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I like their video but the Scottie pippen narrative is blown out of proportion. Michael was the primary defender on magic and actually logged more mins on magic than pippen. They also failed to mention In game 3 pippen fouled out and Michael hit a late bucket with secs on the clock to force ot where he then proceeded to guard magic and held him to 0pts, 0rebs and 0assist while scoring almost all of the bulls pts in OT all while PIPPEN WAS ON THE BENCH. Pippen even admitted that the plan was to keep Michael primarily on magic throughout the series after they won the chip
Good info here. Thank you!
@@ijamorris I agree a lot of people give Scottie pippen too much credit for the defense, when Michael Jordan was elite on defense he was not garbage not saying that the real time machine was doing that but the guy that narrated the video he kind of hold back on giving Michael his proper props off of his defense.
I remember Jordan having trouble guarding Magic, because of his size. Especially, in the lane. And, maybe the Bulls needed Pippen to guard Worthy. Otherwise, Jordan's the best lock-down defender that I've ever seen. Pippen's on-ball defense consisted mostly of hacking.
@StevieAustin-ow3gc yeah that's pretty much everyone guarding magic. Lol I mean it's "Magic" 😅
Giannis, Hakeem, and Jordan did it in the same year. David Robinson and KG are the only other people I believe got both, but in separate years
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I had that sports illustrated, I also had every poster that was in print, simmering like 60! They covered every square inch of my walls and ceiling and on my door was the life-size with the measurements of Jordan poster
Dang!! Thats awesome
For me the greatest Bulls team ever has to be one with Rodman. I'd probably go for 1996 with 72 wins
You are right, no one wanted Dennis. Man they only had to give Will Perdue for him
Lol yeah. After San Antonio Dennis had the worst reputation. Also Dennis didn't really care to play. Something about the Bulls gave him a rebirth lol. He came back ready to win with MJ
Sorry I meant to say for the past few vids Feel Better Dude. I love your Content.
Thanks birdman! I'll be ok. Just a leech of a cold. Doesn't wanna go away lol. Happy holidays to ya!
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Also, just for context, game 6 in PHX 4th quarter, Chicago only scored 12pts and 9 of those are from MJ. Also, it's Krause's fault why he torched your Suns (well 90% of the reason) for saying in the media that Thunder Dan was a great defender. So in typical MJ fashion, he took it personally.
Story with the number 12 was someone stole his jersey (Magic staff if I remember correctly) then the Bulls tried to go around the arena to look for a Bulls 23 jersey but they couldn't find one that would fit MJ,. So, they only have the nameless 12 and if you look closely it barely fit him as well. 😁He scored 49 points that game
Oh man i forgot it was Krause who said that about Majerle! Yeah, MJ definitely took that personally dammit 😆
Just a thought here. The Wizards years. If he hadn't gotten hurt. How long do u think he wouldve played? Cuz he was turning back into 98' MJ again. And I personally think the reason he didn't keep playing was because he got hurt. I think he wouldve played an additional 2 years more
I mean...if he didn't get hurt then i think they would've made the playoffs the first year. So by the second they'd be doing great. 3rd...who knows. But i think he would've played 4 years total if not for injuries.
@TheRealMindCrime 4 years is pretty much what I was thinking as well. Man if he wouldve won a chip there?! There would NEVER be a debate of who the GOAT is. It's foolish now, it wouldn't be possible after that
4:56 Mike tormented Patrick Ewing for a long time lmao
Yeah he definitely did lol. The one year Mj played baseball Patrick finally got to play in the finals
39:56 minutes => " Lebron James must be the most complete player "
Say what ?!?!?! "THE MOST COMPLETE" ?! Come on, come on! Is he a great defender like MJ was ?! Did he won dunk contests like MJ won?! Does he give all in the field like we are seeing right now?! Did MJ made so much travelling like Lebron did?! Did MJ missed so many throws or airballs like Lebron did?! Come on, to be the GOAT or the most complete player, all of these and more must count!
Oh man.... " Most Complete " .... oh man.... sorry., i'm still really disapointed with this statement taking all in account. But the video is quite good.
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Well said my friend
Jordan was a stone cold assassin. The result of the game was NEVER in doubt, and he delivered every single time. It was almost predestined. He was a man playing vs. boys.
He is 11-11 in finals he played. Insane
C'mon now, this shouldn't even be a question.
Lol
on top of being only one of 5 to win the MVP and defensive player of the year (one of 3 if in the same year)... 1987-88 MJ was also the top scorer . maybe he was the one who needed a bit more help at the time 😂😂😂
Yeah he definitely did lol.
33:12 The way the commentator is talking is annoying me because it sounds like he's using LeBron/Klutch Sports talking points. They sound like jabs. 4 HOF players, repeating THE MOST ACCURATE 3 POINT SHOOTER OF ALL TIME on the same team. 😒 Kerr was making only a 3 per game, terrible defender, his playoff numbers were cheeks etc like we're not dumb and I can see what he's trying to do. There's other points in the video where he throws little jabs when a simple rebuttal with context and common sense would make him edit his script. Shit annoys me
Original commentator is a bron stan. Every compliment about MJ is backhanded.
A security guard stole MJ's jersey that's why he had to wear #12 for 1 game lol
Oh yeah! Lol. Crazy
I might just watch the last Dance again for Christmas. That documentary brings back a lot of fun memories back in 2020. I know it was a rough year but we made it through
Loved this banger! I agree my 98 Jazz were the best team we’ve ever had, although it was 1993 when the Bulls came to Utah when I got to watch them in person. So good
So cool! Yeah...that 98 Jazz team was just such a solid team from top to bottom. And you had revenge fueling you as well. I'm still kinda shocked MJ pulled it off in that insane game 6. It was all collapsing on his head but he still found a way to win.
@ insane is the word. It really is
Were the Pistons really on the decline, though? Rodman(DPOTY/1st team All Defense) was at his best, Dumars was at his best (All NBA 3rd team, and All Defense 2nd team, All Star) and the team still won 50 games and ranked #1 defense with Zeke missing half the season. If he was healthy, they would have been 60+ wins also, shit it might have been their best team reg season.
Zeke's wrist surgery was in Jan. 91, was already back before playoffs and had several 20+ and 15+ games. He was just really inconsistent in the playoffs but how much of that is that he got locked up? Injuries are part of the game. He was out there playing 40 minutes. If MJ was doing that with his hurt wrist in 93 Finals against the Suns and lost or 91 Finals with his hurt toe and lost, we'd never stop hearing about how MJ was a loser.
Isiah played 78 games in 92 and had near equal numbers he had during their championship run so it wasn't a decline.
The Bulls were just far and away eclipsing the best that the Pistons ever were and the 91-93 or 96-98 Bulls would beat any of the Pistons championship teams.
and yet another common narrative "Phil turned the series around when he switched Pippen on Magic" that's more complete bogus narrative. Pippen defended him full court and still almost got scored on and thats the famous play that created that narrative, but reality is he didn't defend him any more than Jordan did. Yes Magic could post Jordan and had tougher time on Pippens length, but Jordan did solid on him as well.
Here's Pippen's own quote “Defensively, we did it together. I can't take the credit and he can't take the credit,” Pippen told Jack McCallum in 20112. “In '91, I got some credit for defending Magic, but Michael defended him too. We wore him down together.”
I like how he doesn't mention the forgotten part about the Jordan spectacular move, that it was his 13th consecutive FG. It's topping off all those straight points and making the game insurmountable that made it so much more iconic than just a really "extra" layup
I agree. It was more so that the Bulls rose to new levels while the Pistons stayed the same
@@TheRealMindCrime Yeah, i said any Bulls championship team would beat theirs, but not just beat, destroy them with ease.
How good was MJ really? The greatest of all time. End video
i hope that the video does not imply that it is because the bulls drafted pippen and got phil as the coach that made the bulls a championship team. they still learn how to play with the team.
Original commentator is a lebron Stan. He. takes digs at MJ when he can. Despicable.
I'm curious realmindcrime, why didn't #50 on that georgetown team commit to Jordan's shot? Dude has his back turned and going towards the basket, which I understand probably going for a rebound, but still Ewing is right there. I would have jumped like Rasheed did on Elliot in the 99 western finals. Although once again this brings up bad memories as the Blazers lost yet again
I think the defense was so caught off guard thinking Worthy was gonna get the shot that by the time he realized MJ was shooting all he could do is hope to get the rebound.
I forgot who’s video it was but someone debunked the pippen guarded magic and stuff. Might have been uncut, but pippen guarded him in game 2 I believe and had a great game. Jordan then become the primary defender in game 3..and let’s just say magic didn’t have a great game lol
I really hate hearing “LeBron is the most complete basketball player” is he though? Average/mediocre ball handling, footwork, post game. Not clutch, can’t shoot, can’t shoot FT, horrible leader, loser mentality…like how is THAT the most complete basketball player??? I think Jordan is the most complete basketball and everything shows it, eye test and stats and accolades
I think it was AOH that debunked it
Yes, only the 90-91 Finals was 5 games.
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ahh bs.. go back and watch those early Bulls years, he passed a lot.. just team mates werent hitting most of the open shots he gave them.. he showed in college he was happy to be #3.. as long as tthe other 2 are doing thier job well..
David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Giannis Antetokounmpo and I don’t know who the fourth one is
Was it KG?
@ he did but not in the same season he won mvp for the wolves and dpoy with the Celtics
I don’t understand why a casual NBA fan would create a video of Michael Jordan……and not be a fan of His Airness? During the whole video he takes little jabs and false statements…He even brings up that other scrub with more lies, smh!
Totally agree
He is a bron stan...
5 players to win NBA & DPOY:
Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Kevin Garnett and Giannis Antetokounmpo
Only MJ, Hakeem and Giannis won both awards in same season
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Tim Duncan is the next greatest team leader after the Jordan era. He led his team to 5 championships and won 50 plus games for almost 20 seasons.
Agreed and he was extremely coachable
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I disagree with him guarding the best player because sometimes the best player on the team was a guard
13 losses in a 12 Series' is like 48 wins? 🤔 plus, gotta consider they never lost like 3 in a row and rarely lost two in a row ah?
14:00 i think it has more to do with what the gameplay is, what role he was told to fulfill.. because the bulls know how good jordan is from the start, pre- phil jackson bulls centered their offense on him add the fact that the league didnt have a formula yet for a team with no dominant big man, i believe they just didnt have an idea how to optimize MJ's arsenal..
MJ's triple doubles and high assist numbers when he was told to play the point supports this opinion as well..
Jordan isn't a stereotypiical score first guy, he was a super athletic player with a great knowledge of the game and a disciplined mind that makes him coachable, versatile and confident to play any role on both sides of the floor..
Agreed. MJ is an all around player who will do whatever it takes to win. Just so happens he's the most deadly offensive weapon we've ever seen lol
Yeah that video had a lot of facts but also a lot of cap.
MJ wasn’t a ball hog early in his career because he wanted to be. He needed to be or they wouldn’t win.
MJ had more assists his rookie season than Larry Bird did in his.
MJ didn’t have the talent Larry did either as so many perfect passes to teammates became missed layups or bricks from his teammates.
Don’t get me started with the lack of respect for Tex Winters Triangle as that video tried to give Pippen the credit for it all. Also Pippen didn’t relieve MJ from defense. MJ would cover weak side and hover everywhere. Hardly resting.
Hey man pls react to the greatest peak series for lebron and mj.
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Self researched NBA facts your should go check out his channel. 1 of the best actual basketball facts out. His videos are great.
I've actually checked a few out. He knows his stuff
34:00 yeah steve kerr is #1 3point % all time. Had to bail michael out again
😆 🤣 😂
Another thing to point out was that MJ had no all star selection player at the time of joining the Bulls at any point in the nineties. Mind you that Scottie joined before he was considered an all star.
Scottie was drafted by the Bulls. Completely different situation than any super team stuff
"Many people believed that he (Barkley) could be an even better player than Michael" There is not one person in the Milky Way Galaxy who, ever, at any time thought Barkley could ever be as good a player as Jordan.
39:08 way to destroy a decent documentary 🤡
Kobe and Duncan were best until 2010. Lebron got beaten by Dirk's Mavs. then KD and Steph took over. a good video would be "was there ever a year Lebron was the best player in the league?"
Exactly lol. I'd give Lebron 2012 as the best for a year but other than that there was always someone better around.
ik 3 of the 5 that have won dpoy and mvp its giannis hakeem and kg did it idk the last one tho
Theres a few comments in here that got all 5 in. But you listed more than i could on the spot lol
Carrying and traveling on numerous possessions in countless games is an actual weakness for basketball players. Bad shooting outside of 3 feet is a definite weakness in basketball.
This is a great video!
I do have some reservations about the idea that MJ didn’t pass the ball early in his career.
As you said, that was the only way to win.
I’ve watched some old games, and many times MJ did pass the ball to open teammates, only for them to miss very easy jumpers.
The worst offender was Corzine, who used to miss dunks and layups regularly; so, who in their right mind would prefer to pass to teammates knowing they’d probably miss more often than not?
Exactly. So MJ would have to take over in the 4th to try to win but he was never selfish or a ball hog. MJ was shooting 50-55% from the field most games back then so even with 3 bodies on him he was still the best option to win in the 4th lol
@@TheRealMindCrimeagreed
Two of the ones I remember are Olajuwon and David Robinson.
Looking it up KG and Giannis are the other two.
Robinson and KG did not win the awards in the same year though.
Also, you are correct in that it was always 6 in the finals outside the Lakers.
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96 Bulls= Goat NBA team-No doubt-
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Yes sir you are correct! (asking if Jordan's Bulls won in 6 with exception of the 91 Finals where they reverse swept the Lakers)
You were also right on cue about LeBron taking time off recently and now he's playing a whole lot better :: cough PED's cough :: LeBalco has arrived for my Lakers..ugh....I barely watch them as I want LeCheat GONE first!!!!
Yes sir. I do own my original copy of "A Star is born!" Sports Illustrated.
So lucky! Cherish that thing my friend
If I remember correctly, Jordan (easily the best and greatest player of all time) had a tough time guarding Magic.
I taped all 72 wins. My mom watched with me. I put a satellite on the roof of our Trailor to watch all the games.
The Wiz in context adds to his greatness. He had a 19 win team from the year before in the playoffs (4th seed I think) until he messed up his patella. MJ lead the team in ppg, apg, steals, and was 3rd in rebounds. Rip was the only other player to ave 20 pts, no one else ave more than 10.2 pts, no one but MJ ave more than 3.8 assists, and Popeye Jones lead the team in rpg at 7.2. That was a truly crap team that MJ was carrying to the playoffs. They still almost made the playoffs even after MJ had to have surgery because they were so good when MJ played.
New meaning of the GOAT : Basketball God of all times !
Did you noticed this curisous fact that during MJ's 3 first finals it was an occasion to challenge himself against his rival by trying to be better than him on his own territory (91 : 11 assists vs Magic, 92 : the 3's vs Drexler, 93 : more points than Barkley + his finals high 8.5 rebounds per game).
About 3 peat, I think one untold reason why the Pistons were so disappointed in 1991 is that if they had won, they had a chance to 3 peat first, and be the first team for a while to do that. Thomas's legacy and his ranking in GOAT debate would have be seen differently, equal or even superior to Bird's 80s Celtics. MJ ruined this opportunity.
Thats a damn good point. He does always beat the opponent at their own game. Especially in that first 3 peat