The Many Tragedies of Walt Disney's Return to Oz

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
  • On its surface Return to Oz is just another failed Wizard of Oz movie. Turns out it's just one chapter in Disney's 60 year journey to make good on one of Walt's earliest obsessions, involving backstage drama, financial ruin, and unexpected redemption.
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  • @CeticWales
    @CeticWales Год назад +150

    Return to Oz is seriously underrated I loved it as a child. Pure nightmare fuel but I loved it.

    • @AllGoodOutside
      @AllGoodOutside 11 месяцев назад +4

      I'm getting to genuinely hate that relatively new term "nightmare fuel" I wish someone would start another phrase trend like "Parasomnia Petrol" or something similar 🤮🤌

    • @CeticWales
      @CeticWales 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@AllGoodOutside Return to Oz is seriously underrated I loved it as a child. Pure Parasomnia Petrol but I loved it.

    • @AllGoodOutside
      @AllGoodOutside 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@CeticWales Bü-JA- GrandMA! 👋🤣👍 Thank you for the reply!

    • @johnbarrie447
      @johnbarrie447 8 месяцев назад +4

      One of my favorites.

    • @MrWhatdafuBOOM
      @MrWhatdafuBOOM 6 месяцев назад +2

      Not pure, just a good portion of it.

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Год назад +265

    I adore this movie, and constantly rented it as a kid. I loved being scared by it, and I liked that it felt closer to the books which I also read constantly.

    • @socialmoth4974
      @socialmoth4974 Год назад +11

      Yep, the creepiness is what makes it so good.

    • @zombietrash416
      @zombietrash416 Год назад +6

      Faruza Balk!

    • @ransakreject5221
      @ransakreject5221 Год назад +5

      The best sequels change genre. Terminator and alien went from horror/sci-fi to being strait action sci-fi.
      It’s tricky to do sequels but u can’t outdo a classic. You need some of Rte sane characters and settings but gotta change something so genre is bestv

    • @TheRaven8
      @TheRaven8 Год назад +2

      Same. I kept coming back but was so scared. I couldn’t look away though because it was so visceral to my heart

    • @lizfletcher5258
      @lizfletcher5258 Год назад +4

      This movie makes me cry buckets when Aunt Em brings her to the clinic and when they find Dorothy in the woods, Ozma coming back to Oz out of the mirror it's the best, I'm sick and tired people dissing it saying it's horrible well you know what then don't watch it and you all don't know good movies and when I found my DVD Copy it was the best day of my life

  • @JessaLynn8
    @JessaLynn8 11 месяцев назад +32

    Return to Oz was one of my fav movies when I was a kid. That, The Labyrinth, The Never-Ending Story & The Dark Crystal

    • @Johnlindsey289
      @Johnlindsey289 5 месяцев назад +2

      What about willow?

    • @JessaLynn8
      @JessaLynn8 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Johnlindsey289 yes def! I forgot about that one!

    • @markusforsberg6741
      @markusforsberg6741 2 месяца назад

      And dont forgot ridleys scotts legend from 1985 with the master actor tim curry as the lord of darkness😈

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena Год назад +111

    I saw this first before The Wizard of Oz and got fascinated eversince.
    The Flight of the Navigator, Return to Oz, Tron, The Black Cauldron, and so many others that bombed somehow in the theaters but I really, really enjoyed as a kid back then

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +9

      Totally! That whole era of Disney cranked out some of my favorites as well. Flight of the Navigator's entire 1st act still holds up!

    • @Notsram77
      @Notsram77 Год назад +1

      I feel this so much.

    • @giacamalo8177
      @giacamalo8177 Год назад +5

      Return to Oz and Flight of the Navigator are fucking awesome!!!

    • @foreignparticle1320
      @foreignparticle1320 Год назад +4

      Flight of the Navigator... MAN I loved that film!

    • @SiccDeville
      @SiccDeville Год назад +3

      i loved Flight of the Navigator as a young kid and had the VHS tape.... compliance!

  • @TheGreatStinky
    @TheGreatStinky 11 месяцев назад +47

    HOW IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT YOUR PRODUCTION VALUE. you rock dude, feels like I am watching a docu-series TV show bravo.

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  11 месяцев назад +6

      Thanks! Definitely something that I put a lot of effort into, so it's great to hear that you're enjoying it!

  • @tecpaocelotl
    @tecpaocelotl Год назад +33

    I was the kid who got scared from it but watched it multiple times.
    Also, I liked the Wiz.

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +4

      I pretty much had the exact same expereince!

  • @Ravuun
    @Ravuun Год назад +44

    I was a kid when this came out and I LOVED it. Great introduction to horror concepts, and the special effects are soo good for the time.

    • @jeremyriley1238
      @jeremyriley1238 Год назад

      That is true. Plus, unlike the original movie released by MGM, Return to Oz was closer to the source material that was the original books, making me view Return to Oz as its own film instead of a sequel of any kind.

  • @LAQuadling
    @LAQuadling Год назад +18

    Return to Oz is and always will be my favorite Oz movie.

  • @ZIPPYKIYAY
    @ZIPPYKIYAY Год назад +6

    Absolubtly underrated classic,
    Perfect amount of magic wonder and horror!
    The beautiful dark.

  • @mattf9076
    @mattf9076 11 месяцев назад +8

    If you read the books, you know this movie was directed flawlessly. How Walter Murch pulled this off is nothing short of amazing.

  • @virgo3175
    @virgo3175 11 месяцев назад +5

    Just gained a new subscriber here! Honstly, bc I don't have much experience in technology and such, I simply don't realize just what goes into making/producing media like this. Then, as I'm watching this after just watching your Tim Burton "Hansel and Gretel" piece...sometimes it becomes abundantly clear how much must go into this😮 Seriously professional and absolutely impressive!!

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  10 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks - I really appreciate that. These are all definitely a labor of love!

  • @tylerlaird1663
    @tylerlaird1663 Год назад +50

    What I would really like to see is the Wizard of Oz series in an animated format that closely matches the tone of the books. I know there’s a 90s series, a Muppet Babies like cartoon, and one from a few years back that’s more aimed towards a younger audience, but I would like to see a show that’s more in line with an age group that’s in line with Gravity Falls.

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +9

      YES! A really well done Oz animated series would be amazing!

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 Год назад +3

      I think what would have been ideal is a release in 1939 of an animated adaptation by either Disney or the Fleischer Brothers. They might even have commissioned the same composer and songwriters. The movie could well have been pretty much the same, but richer in narrative and not hampered by the special effects limitations of the day.

    • @theflyingninja1
      @theflyingninja1 Год назад +2

      There's a decent anime from the 80s.

    • @sailor_gaia
      @sailor_gaia Год назад +1

      I used to long for that as well but hope that if it ever happens, it will be in the hands of folks who don't want to alter every detail to suit their "modern" selves or because they feel like something was "wrong" with the story and needing fixing. Return to Oz, in spite of being done by Disney, is one of my favorite films, period. I love everything about it. It successfully forged together two of the books plots, aligned itself to fit within MGM film lore and distinguished itself entirely from both. I don't necessarily mind changing details for television or movies (because not many things translate perfectly from page to screen) as long as the core is still there. The characters and the world are as magical and whimsical as they are in the books (and they leaned into the horror aspect that is present when you translate characters and situations directly from their source, just like fairy tales). That combined with one of my favorite film scores, it certainly made a lasting impression on me.
      If anyone actually takes on the series, I certainly hope it wouldn't just stuck within the "Wizard of Oz" realm, like we've had for over 40 years now, rewriting the same ONE novel in different ways (::cough WICKED cough::). Personally, I think one of the Oz-adjacent stories (like "Sky Island") would be a great concept for a film. It's got those wonderfully Baum-esq dark side to it as well. I would just love to see Baum's entire world explored more and I recommend them to every young reader I can.

    • @trevorross2401
      @trevorross2401 Год назад

      There is a faithful full-length animated version of The Wizard of Oz that is close to the book it's by Paramount and it is 80 minutes long

  • @ShamanJeeves
    @ShamanJeeves Год назад +20

    I'm a huge Oz geek, and as such I appreciate thoughtful videos like this. I like the bait and switch of "starting at the beginning with the '39 film" before talking about the books and some.if the earlier adaptations. While I enjoy the MGM film, and appreciate it for keeping the tale in the public consciousness, I have to admit that I'm bothered by the number of people who think that that is all there is to Oz. While Return to Oz has its flaws, I enjoy that it dared to adapt material from later books. As a Minnesotan, I will always love Judy's performance in the MGM film, but Fairuza Balk is probably my second favorite Dorothy.

  • @trogdortheburninator3621
    @trogdortheburninator3621 2 месяца назад +2

    I love Return to Oz. It's exactly what fantasy should be a bit spooky, a bit funny, and lovely. The screaming heads have stuck with me since childhood, and it was seconds long. Im 42.

    • @BuckarooBanzai84
      @BuckarooBanzai84 9 дней назад

      I’m actually 40 this year, and this is still one of my personal favorites! I was actually born the year this movie came out. 🥰

  • @notthegreatestdetective
    @notthegreatestdetective Год назад +19

    i still remember the first time i saw this movie i was a bit too young for it and it really freaked me out, i appreciate its oddball nature today, its sorta a time capsule of what you can do with a story if you let loose, but i see very much why it failed

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Год назад +19

    Nice to see Wonderful Land of Oz get mentioned. Thankfully the good people at Rifftrax have greatly improved it (and it's free on their RUclips channel)

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +3

      Ha! Rifftrax and MST3K is the best when it comes to discovering hidden gems like this.

  • @acsaudiodramas
    @acsaudiodramas Год назад +15

    When I watched this on VHS as a little kid, I was deeply intrigued. There was so much going on that felt so grand and went over my head. I loved it, because I hadn't seen the original. Many years later I saw the original and was ... a bit weirded out by the bright colors and naivety. But later I understood, what it meant for the people who loved it. 'Return' was a very typical product of the 80's with their dark, gritty fantasy, horror and Sci fi themes, constantly pushing the boundaries of what's seen as suitable for kids. I'm glad to learn so much about that film's troubled history

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +1

      Happy to hear you enjoyed learning about this!

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 Год назад +1

      Another example of going gritty was a remake of BABES IN TOYLAND released the very next year, starring a very young Drew Barrymore and Keanu Reeves in one of his first roles, as well as THE KARATE KID's Pat Morita(!) as Santa Claus. They made a fair effort, but their budget was obviously brutally low and the proceedings come off as vaguely dreary. And the villains are more sinister than in the original, looking more like characters from THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW.

    • @ct6852
      @ct6852 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah I saw this one before the classic too. Really don't know how that happened.

    • @Johnlindsey289
      @Johnlindsey289 5 месяцев назад

      The 80’s was lightning in a bottle and a great time for sci-fi and fantasy

  • @OfficialJuanCamacho
    @OfficialJuanCamacho Год назад +3

    I hope we get a proper Disney movie series someday soon, or even a big budget series. As of now, WICKED is what I’m waiting for!

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +2

      A legit Disney Oz series would be awesome, but probably too expensive for them to bite.

  • @Sieg670
    @Sieg670 Год назад +4

    I read every single book and it was clear that he had no intention of making more than two. Later books had to address plot holes, inconsistencies and questions about the characters.
    Saying that, I would like to see a series adaption that's faithful to the books.

  • @collectingonthecheap56353
    @collectingonthecheap56353 Год назад +6

    Absolutely love this movie as well as The Wiz. Loved how this was much truer to the spirit of the books, and got over the whole making it still seem like she dreamed it with the Kansas citizens doubling as Oz citizens. The Wheelers weren't really scary for me, however many of my peers really were frightened by them. The whole presentation of Mombi and the heads stayed with me for some time though. Oz the Great And Powerful is the Oz prequel that we definitely needed.

  • @davidmenke7552
    @davidmenke7552 Год назад +6

    I loved this one so much! Saw it in the theater with grandma in 85. I loved being terrified by it! This was a great video/analysis!

  • @danielcrabtree1162
    @danielcrabtree1162 Год назад +3

    This is be a very large margin the absolute best OZ visual media. It's not even close

  • @Garch-the-Great
    @Garch-the-Great Год назад +10

    I'm a little surprised that you included the obscure Aussie Oz movie (NOBODY acknowledges that one!) and skipped Shirley Temple's 1960 TV special The Land of Oz, which has a few of the same elements as Return to Oz. I didn't know it existed until recently, and it's kind of interesting. I'm among the few who saw the original Return release. It wasn't what me or my family expected at all, and I was traumatized by Mombi's hall-of-heads, but I still loved it. All of those dark Disney films from that era were kind of awesome. I'm grateful that the execs didn't meddle with the director's vision of this one like they did with Watcher in the Woods and Something Wicked This Way Comes, which don't hold up as well today.

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +2

      Yeah - outside of the occasional throwaway joke refference, I tried to keep this one focused on both Disney and theatrical Oz. Could have gotten wild if I included TV entries.

  • @darlingimscared
    @darlingimscared 8 месяцев назад +4

    Great video mate, I love return to oz it's a very powerful film and reminds me of being a child, that feeling of quiet boredom in a strange place being forces into new situations constantly and having to meet new friend's. You dont know much as a child and so much is new to you, you may aswel be swept up into oz but then again I'm 33 and born before the internet so these feeling I'm certain are different for kids today.

  • @phoebesanders2487
    @phoebesanders2487 Год назад +3

    This was a great video! I was curious about the different oz adaptations, and this video collected and explained them better than any other I've come across!

  • @iskycreations
    @iskycreations Год назад +3

    Great review! Thank you. I grew up with Wizard of Oz and watching Return to Oz as a kid gave me nightmares. But I loved it.

  • @johnmontgomery2321
    @johnmontgomery2321 Год назад +1

    Return to Oz will always be my favorite. It’s so,ingrained in my childhood that one of my favorite memories is the childhood frustration of my mom seemingly using the movie to time cooking dinner. Countless times right at the exact same moment, when Tick Tock is first found and he’s looking out the door for the wheelers, my mom would proclaim “Dinner’s ready. Turn off the movie”. We’d always finish it after dinner.

  • @KathrynGolden-c5t
    @KathrynGolden-c5t Год назад +3

    Love the OZ Disney drama connection made vivid & fun. Dazzling FX animation!

  • @marienash9357
    @marienash9357 Год назад +2

    I was born in 86 but I remember seeing it on TV when I was a Lil older and I liked this version

  • @VikingMatt879
    @VikingMatt879 Год назад +5

    When I watched Return To Oz when I was 8 years old, I had already seen The Wizard Of Oz probably about 10 times by then. However, even at 8 years old, I knew that they were different movies and that I had to like Return on it's own terms, not comparing it to Wizard. Even at 8, I knew that for myself, nobody had to tell me that. Most adult critics at the time could just not grasp this concept.

    • @Johnlindsey289
      @Johnlindsey289 5 месяцев назад

      It’s more an adaptation of two oz books

  • @barkboingfloom
    @barkboingfloom Год назад +11

    Frank Baum would have adored this film. Despite mashing up several books, the characterizations, the imagery, the tonality are completely within the original Baum Oz books.

  • @CandyColorClown
    @CandyColorClown Год назад +3

    Aesome, well crafted video. I haven't seen this movie since I was a wee lad and this brought back a lot of memories (mostly of being frightened by this film!). P.S. you have a phenomenal voice for narration!

  • @Sharauni
    @Sharauni Год назад +5

    Return to Oz is my favorite Oz film simply because it's so close to the dark themes of the Baum books. His books are very twisted and dark in many ways, and honestly his need to write them simply for money comes through, you can tell he wasn't loving it by how the characters are and how they interact with others, Dorothy especially. I think by the end Baum absolutely hated Oz and Dorothy lol. But still, I love how dark the books can get and love that the movie Return to Oz encapsulated that.

  • @kennethnakamura3936
    @kennethnakamura3936 11 месяцев назад +1

    This production is wonderful. It is much more satisfying than the musical. I really enjoy the homage to the darkness of the Brother’s Grimm pall of danger and evil. The spirit and the celebration of self reliance is nice to see

  • @trinoromo6619
    @trinoromo6619 Год назад +3

    I love the research and depth that comes to your videos, happy holidays everyone. .

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад

      Thanks - I really appreciate that! So great to hear that you're really enjoying my format. Happy Holidays to you, too!

  • @burningpapersun1
    @burningpapersun1 11 месяцев назад +2

    I will gladly return to this film before I would watch the original one. Return to Oz has managed to stick in my mind.

  • @Marko.official
    @Marko.official 2 месяца назад +1

    It is so accurate to the books which makes it my favourite oz book

  • @The_Sunset_King
    @The_Sunset_King Год назад +4

    Before I saw this movie as a kid, I was already a fan of animations like the Sleepy Hollow Headless Horseman stuff, Night on Bald Mountain, Pinocchio, Henson's Dark Crystal, and Bluth's Secret of Nimh. So I actually thought it was more cool than scary.

  • @benlandre9791
    @benlandre9791 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @Bunny-ch2ul
    @Bunny-ch2ul Год назад +1

    I Return to Oz. I was obsessed with all things Oz as a kid, this included. I think it's spectacular. It deserves more credit because it's very close to the source material as far as fantasy goes. People complain that it's incredibly creepy, which it is, but so were the original books.

  • @SaintLewisMusic
    @SaintLewisMusic Год назад +1

    It's my kids FAVORITE Oz movie, & I really love it, too.

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras Год назад +5

    This movie is insane and actually more closer to the actual books than the original movie with the yellowbrick road. Its weird and strange but also amazing.

    • @jeremyriley1238
      @jeremyriley1238 Год назад

      That is true, which is why I do view this as its own movie instead of a sequel.

    • @Johnlindsey289
      @Johnlindsey289 5 месяцев назад +1

      Its like how some thought Batman begins was a prequel to the Burton movies in 2005 but a standalone film series

  • @equinoxmechanism
    @equinoxmechanism 11 месяцев назад

    This is one of my favorite movies. It's hauntingly ethereal and you will never forget it.

  • @pap64
    @pap64 Год назад +8

    Funny enough, I never grew up with the MGM classic; I actually grew up with the Filmation animated film then Return to Oz. Those were my main and only introductions to the Land of Oz stories, then later on I read the "Wicked" book and saw the musical inspired by it. It would be till late 2006 when I finally saw the MGM movie and at first it caught me off guard with how colorful it was since in my mind Oz was grittier and darker, but ended up loving it as one of my favorite movies ever as well as musical.

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +3

      Woah - Oz in reverse must have been wild!

    • @pap64
      @pap64 Год назад +1

      @@theothervault It was! Going from Green Elephants stampeding through everything , through Dorothy running away from a headless witch, to Idina Menzel belting it out alongside Kirstin Chenoweth...to the super MGM colorful musical. It was a journey! And the reason I STILL remember "Oz the Great and Powerful" was because the first time I saw it was on a flight to Orlando...in the middle of a storm...with severe turbulence. So the tornado scene became a motion simulator that lasted the film's runtime, and in order for me to prevent going full panic mode, I glued my eyes into that small TV and watch EVERY SECOND OF IT till we landed safely. So now I associate Oz with turbulence...lawl

  • @Raptormon132
    @Raptormon132 Год назад +4

    I will say this. I actually love Return to OZ, ever since I first saw it as a little kid.
    Many people say that Disney's Return to OZ is too dark and scary for an OZ movie, but what most people don't realize is that the original OZ stories by L. Frank Baum were not like the 1939 movie. They were actually very dark, violent, and scary. For instance in the first book, the Tin Man kills a large pack of wolves from attacking by cutting off each of there heads with his axe, or in one sequel book, the wizard lobotomizes a cats' brains out and replacing them with glass ones. And bare in mind, those are just a couple of examples of what the original L. Frank Baum OZ stories are like.
    People, like myself, believe that Disney's Return to OZ fully captures the feel of L. Frank Baum's original dark vision of OZ. It got the tone of the land of OZ right. And on a personal level, I really hope that Disney makes a prequel to Return to OZ to tie in to it, and have it end with Dorothy beginning stages of her depressive state we see her at the beginning of Return to OZ not long after she returns home.

  • @catherineholden6388
    @catherineholden6388 Год назад +2

    This is one of my favorite films of all time. I grew up on the books. I adore the 1939 film. I collect 39 film stuff. However, THIS film is Baum's Oz, not Hollywood. I was 28 years old when I saw it at the theater. I was blown away to see the real thing. I still love it and watch it often. I love the 39 film on it's own merits - a treat for both eyes and ears and as a part of the collective pop culture we have today. This film is it's own thing, but it is what was written by the author and a clever use of two different books. One can love them both for different reasons.

  • @Yogsoggeth
    @Yogsoggeth Год назад

    When I was very young my older sister rented this and it scared the hell out of me. It was a few years later I dared to rent the same tape from the same video store and watch it again. After that I rented it out several times a year for the next few years. It was, and still to this day one of the best movies I have ever seen in my entire life. One of my top 10, up there with the likes of T2 and Alien. I have a copy on my laptop I still enjoy watching regularly.

  • @sleepy9102
    @sleepy9102 Месяц назад

    Just watched wicked and went on a oz marathon. Got to say this movie was surprisingly inspired and instantly a classic in my eyes

  • @FutureLaugh
    @FutureLaugh 11 месяцев назад +2

    return to oz is such a gem

  • @SabrinaLWilliams
    @SabrinaLWilliams 4 месяца назад

    I love this film. I'm an 80s kid and remember watching this over and over and have done so as an adult. Underrated film

  • @cmtippens9209
    @cmtippens9209 Год назад +3

    Although not Disney, a nod to how Wicked made a HUGE success by turning the story on it's ear, proving that there is still a market for the Oz story, would have been a nice footnote to the Disney saga.

  • @BobKronlage
    @BobKronlage 4 месяца назад +1

    Crazy. I'm 61 years old. When I was in about the second grade Santa brought me a record with all these odd songs about the Oz carechters called "the Cowardly Lion of Oz" that seemed to bear no relationship to anything. Now, FINALLY I find out what those songs were.

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  4 месяца назад

      Wow! So glad that I could help clear that up!

  • @MadDragon-lb7qg
    @MadDragon-lb7qg Год назад +2

    I love the movie, it was filmed here in England and the Jim Henson crew were involved. It even had a presenter from a show I watched on TV playing Tik Tok, at least the movement at least. And the wiz has a soft spot as the makeup was done by one of my heroes, Stan Winston.

  • @melissacooper8724
    @melissacooper8724 Год назад +1

    I loved this movie when I was a kid! We taped it when they showed it on The Disney Channel back in the 1980s. Years later I got it on DVD and I still enjoy it! I like this movie better than the MGM musical because it is more faithful to the books.

    • @Johnlindsey289
      @Johnlindsey289 5 месяцев назад

      Saw it on video in 86 at 4 and I had it taped off Disney Channel too and I dug it.
      I even bought the anchor bay vhs at 17 and later dvd now Sony and Disney should do an uhd 4k anniversary edition with new restoration and would look more visually stunning

  • @BRIANSCOTTBAGLEY
    @BRIANSCOTTBAGLEY 26 дней назад

    YOUr WORK AND THIS VIDEO IS A MASTERPIECE! Thank you!

  • @theawesome925
    @theawesome925 13 дней назад

    The Other Vault: Could the Oz movie curse ever be broken?
    Wicked: Hold my beer...

  • @johnburnside7828
    @johnburnside7828 Год назад +2

    I just discovered your channel. Great video and I'm eager to see more!

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад

      Thanks so much! Happy to hear that you're enjoying everything!

  • @FeralDawn
    @FeralDawn Год назад

    My mom had this recorded on VHS, and my siblings and I loved watching it.

  • @barbarabaker1457
    @barbarabaker1457 Год назад +5

    The real Oz is somewhere between the 39 and 80's flick. Colorful and fun mixed with your worst nightmares and making them digestible. And still has the best Santa Clause backstory despite no intention. I mean if classic Tim Burton were colorful and had a little more of the living, he was kinda the modern Baum of the time.

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +2

      I mean, I'd definitely check this out.

    • @chevyblaze3773
      @chevyblaze3773 Год назад +1

      I'd love to see a tim Burton Oz interpretation

  • @SecretOfMonkeyIsland784
    @SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 Год назад +2

    I loved Return To Oz as a kid, the special effects were great for the time and the characters very realistic. i loved the darker tone and the fact it wasnt a musical. I do remember finding the headless witch and the wheelers mildly scary but we were tuff in the 80's unlike modern kids.

    • @marty639
      @marty639 Год назад

      No. Oz films set horrific examples for all children. All entertainment towards children for that matter. Gives them a false sense of hope which doesnt exist in the real world... for women especially. Girls believe they are princesses and as women... believe they should be treated as such. We need to do away will all forms of entertainment for children and reveal to them how harsh, cruel, wicked, and often meaningless the real world is.

  • @foreignparticle1320
    @foreignparticle1320 Год назад

    I loved this film as a kid, and we rented the video multiple times. Even though it scared me, I found everything about it compelling.

  • @vinnycochrane5139
    @vinnycochrane5139 Год назад +2

    I was a bit nonplussed that the DVD I bought of this film had very jolly-looking packaging, as if to deceive the customer that Return to Oz is something other than a twisted, gothic nightmare. It’s one of my favourite films. I have previously described it as a sequel not to its 30s precursor, but a sequel to the very dark circumstances of the previous film. I am astonished that mindless studio execs didn’t kill it. It’s a postmodern masterpiece.

  • @amandapurvis3245
    @amandapurvis3245 Год назад +1

    When I was little I would love when this would come on t.v. looooved it!

  • @bhanson4917
    @bhanson4917 Год назад

    This movie scared the crap out of me but I still kept rewatching it. Kid's movies were definitely alot different back then.

  • @black79montecarlo123
    @black79montecarlo123 2 месяца назад

    Great video. I love the Rocketeer helmet there in the background.

  • @-Ashram-
    @-Ashram- 7 месяцев назад

    I sat through it with my mum when I was a kid but tbh, I got a lot of nightmare from that one. Still one of the coolest moviest I have every seen as a kid.

  • @whiterabbit1632
    @whiterabbit1632 2 месяца назад

    you are a complete pro dude! great sound and no mic in shot! follow this man's lead people! top shelf production!

  • @KynaruHelio
    @KynaruHelio 11 месяцев назад +1

    i absolutely LOVED return to oz... i was not able to see it as much as i wanted as a kid because they did not air it often and basically could only rent it.

  • @hashtagfilm
    @hashtagfilm 2 месяца назад

    My favourite Oz movie ever! The original is clearly a classic and staple in cinema history, but Return is a dark, twisted fantasy that's the truest adaptation of the books ever made

  • @jordanwilliams1063
    @jordanwilliams1063 17 дней назад

    Might be in the inner wrestling fan inside me, but at 2:09, i just went "yea... we coming now" 😂 iykyk
    Return to Oz i loved as a kid! Was always drawn to dark movies, stuck in my mind for years honestly! Would gladly rewatch it again

  • @BuckarooBanzai84
    @BuckarooBanzai84 9 дней назад

    And don’t forget ‘The Wiz’! That one deserves a video of its own! 😃

  • @MusicalSeizureGuy
    @MusicalSeizureGuy Год назад +2

    Just stumbled across your channel! Great vids and ideas! Keep rocking bro!
    🤟😝

  • @vicha3499
    @vicha3499 6 месяцев назад +1

    The wheely people and interchanging heads.....Awesome!!!

  • @nightbeast8105
    @nightbeast8105 Год назад

    I went to see this in cinema back in the day as a kid and loved it.

  • @banonKING
    @banonKING 4 месяца назад

    Return to OZ is my favorite childhood film of all time... (next to the Brave Little Toaster) but The Wiz also has a special spot in my heart. Love black OZ.

  • @PurpleFoxArcade
    @PurpleFoxArcade Год назад +1

    Love the Wiz and Return to Oz.

  • @seanharris37
    @seanharris37 Год назад +2

    Return To Oz is nothing more than a basic template for MK Ultra mind control

  • @whitemagus2000
    @whitemagus2000 Год назад +2

    I actually liked the 2013 Oz. I thought it was interesting to see him overcome an actual wizard through trickery, because the witch has no understanding of technology.

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад

      That's actually a pretty good take on 2013 Oz.

  • @plushman3685
    @plushman3685 Год назад +1

    this movie scared the shit out of me when I was a kid

  • @dcordero5950
    @dcordero5950 Год назад

    I remember watching this movie a lot as a small child and I loved it!❤

  • @bewell256
    @bewell256 Год назад +22

    we need to make this channel bigger it’s easy as liking the video and telling your friends about it 😂

  • @goudagirl6095
    @goudagirl6095 Год назад

    I remember reading the original Oz books as a kid at my grandma's house, and recall thinking how odd the books were compared to the movie, which has become a standard Disney trope by then.

  • @SpookyJohnnyY
    @SpookyJohnnyY Год назад +5

    I love this movie! I saw it in the theater when it came out. I liked it better than the MGM version, but I was a kid that loved everything spooky. I love the character design!

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +1

      Thanks for sharing! Agreed - the design throughout the movie is pretty incredible.

  • @SeasideDetective2
    @SeasideDetective2 Год назад +4

    I have seen the 1939 film, THE WIZ, OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL, one of the animated adaptations, and (although I can just barely remember doing so) RETURN TO OZ. Of all of them, OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL has satisfied me the most. But none of them have truly done the classic book justice. I think of L. Frank Baum as a sort of proto-J.R.R. Tolkien, and Oz as a precursor to Middle Earth. The Oz mythology works best in the books, where we're free to use our imaginations to the fullest.

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +1

      The Tolkien - Baum comparison is a pretty interesting one. For the longest time it was thought that The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings could never be be fully adapted, too.

  • @Twinkle_Toezzz
    @Twinkle_Toezzz Год назад

    Your voice is amazing! I’m a first timer and now a new sub! ❤

  • @tbone3484
    @tbone3484 Год назад

    One of my favorites as a child and still love this movie

  • @RampantDaydream
    @RampantDaydream 11 месяцев назад +4

    Return to Oz is a masterpiece. It's tone, and risky choices is great. But I can see why people were disappointed if they were expecting 'The Wizard of Oz 2'.

  • @froggy8030
    @froggy8030 Год назад

    It scared the crap out of us in bits but most 80's kids loved it!!

  • @jasonkingsley9134
    @jasonkingsley9134 Год назад +3

    You may have forgotten that there’s a Phineas and Ferb special of the Wizard of Odd .

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +1

      Yeah, I was really trying to avoid this from becomeing an all inclusive Oz list. Fun episode, though!

  • @MusicalSeizureGuy
    @MusicalSeizureGuy Год назад +3

    Cosby sounded drunk on that hot air balloon 😂

  • @cutelilscrafty
    @cutelilscrafty 2 месяца назад

    Return to Oz traumatized me as a child. Until recently, I had convinced myself that this movie was nothing more than a fever dream. I kinda wanna go back as a mid-30s adult and rewatch it to see if I like it now.

  • @AuthorCertifiedGoof
    @AuthorCertifiedGoof Год назад +4

    Hearing Diana Ross and Michael Jackson singing “Ease on Down the Road” always puts a smile on my face. I love The Wiz!!
    I also have a great love for Return to Oz. Mombi taking off her head scared the hell out of me as a kid, but Jack and Tik Tok bring nostalgic feelings to me when I watch the film as an adult. I love the sequence where they’re trying to find green things in the collection while the Gnome King gets pissed. And of course an egg being his downfall definitely makes me giggle even to this day.
    One thing I never understood is why the doctor’s nurse got arrested at the end when she was clearly trying to save Dorothy from the flood! LOL
    I’m definitely a weirdo, though because so many of those Disney flops you talk about in the 80s are movies I love to this day, like The Devil and Max Devlin!!

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +1

      Great point about the ending!

    • @Johnlindsey289
      @Johnlindsey289 5 месяцев назад +2

      Because she confessed she with the doctor did unlawful experiments on patients

  • @neilacrabtree1617
    @neilacrabtree1617 2 месяца назад

    It scared the shit out of me as a kid. The wheelers were nightmare fuel

  • @kennethnakamura3936
    @kennethnakamura3936 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is one of my favorite movies. I like it much more than the musical

  • @raynwise
    @raynwise Месяц назад

    I rented this as a kid, and couldn't get past the shock treatment scene at the very beginning. 😂 I noped right out of there in the first couple of minutes lol 😅 as a kid I read most of the Oz books and loved them, but that movie was pure nightmare fuel

  • @charliebrownie4158
    @charliebrownie4158 Год назад +2

    I actually like this movie above and beyond the MGM one, for one simple fact, the end of the movie from MGM there never was an OZ, Dorothy just had a concussion, that is all. The story that Baum crafted wasn't from getting hit in the head. I ignored the film itself and had dreams where Dorothy finds the ruby slippers on her feet after sleeping. But as I grew up I didn't like MGM one as much as this one. It was perfect with the darker version, many might not know, but although it had a huge box office beginning what else went with it was children driven almost catatonic of fright because of the witch, they had to cut the film down. I know watching it at 4 years old it sent me screaming into the rooms away from the living room. The family friend was able to calm me down and get me to go back into the living room and see the rest of the movie.

  • @RhianChambers
    @RhianChambers Год назад

    I haven’t watched the og since I was a child but I’ve watched return to oz many many times since I was a child

  • @orboakin8074
    @orboakin8074 Год назад

    Funny story. As a kid in Nigeria in 2001, i first watched the original Wizard of Oz on TCM and fell in love with the movie. A year later, as i came from school and was channel skipping for stuff to watch, i saw Return to Oz playing and just thought it looked cool and familiar abd decided to watch it😂 It was weird and scary! But so memorable. I had no idea it was a sequel.

  • @AttemptedVoices
    @AttemptedVoices Год назад +3

    Ooh, Return to Oz. The secret origin of the Pumpkin King!
    And even better, an The Other Vault video!
    (In the tune of Jack's Lament. The "and since I am dead!" part)
    ♪~"AND SINCE HE IS BACK, I CAN SIT AND RELAX! AND WATCH HIM REVIEW A FILM UNHEARD OF...
    UNDERRATED OR SCORNED! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW IT WAS FORMED!
    HE WILL MAKE SURE YOU REMEMBER IT AND THEN SOME. "~♪

    • @theothervault
      @theothervault  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Fantastic, as always!

    • @AttemptedVoices
      @AttemptedVoices Год назад +1

      I say the same thing about your videos, you wonderful creator! Keep up the amazing work and I will always do my best to show up and make a funny parody!
      @@theothervault

  • @dokskwyr4353
    @dokskwyr4353 Месяц назад

    "The Wiz" was my favourite, too. And I'd love to see "Return to Oz" but can't find it anywhere.