Stick and Rudder Flying - MzeroA Flight Training
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024
- m0a.com Aviation is a humbling experience. No matter how much experience you have it will continue to challenge you whether you’re ready or not. Thats what flying a tail dragger was like for me. I may be a tailwheel endorsed pilot but that was 6 years ago! Flying a tailwheel teaches you true stick and rudder skills. Fly along with myself and AOPA “You Can Fly Ambassador” Jamie Beckett for a landing that I would call “a bit too exciting” I was very thankful to have Jamie there as my instructor. Because even a flight instructor needs a flight instructor. #aGoodPilotIsAlwaysLearning
lovin' it! Remembering my days in J3's, Citabria, Commonwealth Skyranger, Cessna 170 and 180.
Thanks for watching, Scott!
These older planes really show the true skills of a pilot. Newer planes can correct some minor mistakes of coordination. Planes like this truly keep your skills sharp. Good job👍
I was fortunate to take some flying lessons and solo, back in the early 1960’s, Jason. I solo’ed in an Aeronca Champ, which, as you know, is a tail dragger. At that time, I worked as a linecrewman for an FBO at Houston Hobby Airport (called Houston Intercontinental Airport back then), and was fortunate to buy some flying time. Unfortunately, I was not able to financially continue after about 20 hours of time before I got drafted into the military. After my military days, in the mid-60’s, I did not continue my flight training, and I regret that to this day. Now, I’m too old, and couldn’t pass a flight physical, anyway. But, flying that Champ was such fun and scary a few times. I never learned to do wheel landings, though. Such memories I have of those days. Enjoy your videos. Even though that was over 50 years ago, I still love aviation.
Got all my PPL hours on a PA11... after 20 hours or so as a private pilot, I went to a C150 and C172 and I couldn't believe how easy was to land those cessnas. It's true: learning on a tail dragger makes you a great pilot! Of course the B side of that is that learning to coordinate as a student pilot with less than 10 hours end to end was HARD AS FFFFFFFF hehe
Thanks Jason, I'm a student learning in a Citabria. I was great to see that I'm not the only person who does s'es down the strip. Great video thanks.
Never knew how lucky I was back in 1992 when I started flying in a 1946 J3 Cub. My first 50 hours were in a Cub, then a Cessna 120 for another 150 hours. All tailwheel time.
It's also great that you're still around to talk about it
Very helpful. Love seeing you fly around airports in my area. (I landed at Winterhaven for my Private License check ride)
Bought one of your shirts " Pilots are always learning " ..... and I just put some of your video about landings to test and it has brought my skill level up a bit... I seem to have an issue with that last 2-3' above the runway, I let the airspeed bleed off and stall it just about every time........... THUMP !........not a big thing but back in ' '77 I could slide unto the runway with just a small wheel spin up chirp and a shake to go with it............ I'll wear that shirt as much as possible 'til I get the thump out..... AND thanks for all the great videos you post !
My aviation goals for this year is first to finally get my private done. I started it last year in June and got 10 hours but a family trip and my CFI being hired to an airline put it on the back burner.
My next goal is to hopefully buy a Cessna 140 with my friend and get my tailwheel in it and go on adventures!
I bought a tail wheel self launch glider, now I am studying for the written test. By April I will be in flight training. I hope to fly as many days as possible in 2021.
You did way better than my first time in a 170B yesterday! What a challenging beast tailwheels are. I flew a Champ twice before I had 9 hours, but totally forgot how hard it was.
170s are hard to fly, that steel spring gear loves to bounce. Hard for me and I have quite a few TW hours.
Fun. :-)
I have a couple of hours in a Citabria. Frisky in the air, a handful on the ground (particularly landings), a hoot to fly. I also found myself thinking it would make an excellent primary trainer, a hands-on seat-of-the-pants stick-and-rudder airplane.
Laura Halliday , I'm using a Citabria 7GCBC to learn to fly. It's a great experience I agree with you on that.
Thank you, great learning moments. 7:28 the satisfying smile on your face 😀 Just when I thought I knew everything, training in a Cessna TTX, a friend took me for a flight in a 1940 Beechcraft Staggerwing. "Ummmmm where is the Garmin, this is all analog."
Haha! Thanks for watching!
Always love your videos, can’t wait to start my tailwheel training tomorrow! It will definitely show all my poor skills in rudderwork but I’m excited nonetheless! 😸☺️
Good on you Jason for posting this.
Thanks!
Been working on tailwheel endorsement right now in a cub built in 1946!
Great video Jason! You looked like a brand new student again there. lol
BTW, I'm a huge geek of all sorts. But I wouldn't be caught dead wearing two watches. At least not on different arms 😁
Yeah, what is with the two watches? Most airplanes already have a clock/timer!
Just did my first lesson yesterday in a cub in 90 degree weather and a 5 knot crosswind it was a blast:)
Awesome! Thanks for sharing, Dean! Good luck!
More of these Jason, really good stuff!!
If Jamie Beckett will do some instructing, I would like to go to Winterhaven for a a few days this fall or winter.
Hey Jason, have you ever done any glider training?
I would feel a lot better the next time I flew with an airline if I knew the pilot had just climbed out of one of these. I too feel that rudimentary flight control skills are sorely lacking with the advent of modern electronics, avionics, and fly-by-wire technology. It's still just as simple as lift on the wings and a few flight control surfaces.
Might just buy a classic J3 Cub in the future or a Super Cub.
Doubt u will see this but when u start a cub from behind the prop, place your hand in the cabin entrance to pull u from the prop. Gl
Great video Jason. I have a couple hours in a Citabia back in my student pilot days. I would love to get my tail wheel endorsement but none of the FBO in Northern CA have tail wheel aircraft for rent.
if your in the fresno area there is a great instructor that uses his 170 to do a bunch of tail wheel training, hes a great teacher I found him on barnstormers in the Cessna 170 for sale section, his name is dale
Advantage Aviation at Palo Alto, and Aerodynamic Aviation at Reid Hillview do.
Sunshine Flyers in Auburn CA has a Citabria
Jamie used your favorite word more than once, Jason; "Flare". LOL
A good pilot is always learning!
You do really "flare" for a 3 pt landing.
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Funny, my tailwheeel instructor taught me to push the nose down hard on takeoff and get that tail off the ground ASAP.
Hey Jason -
Any timeline on when the CFI ground school will be complete?
Thanks!
Is it a good idea to get a complex or high performance endorsement only once you have you instrument rating?
Just as everyone who has driven a car should have learned in a standard shift transmission, Every pilot should learned in a tail wheel, eg. Cub or Aeronca.
what did tower say to pilot right before take off?
Can you say Bob Hoover?
Red Stewart Field in Ohio has a J-3 for rent $71 an hour. Instruction is another $36 an hour. Dirt cheap for the experience.
thanks info ! i just found their web site
AMAZING
Thanks for watching, Emiliano!
Is this thing a 4 or 6 cylinder and what is max speed ? Fuel burn ? I may be about to acquire one. Don't have ppl yet but wanting to get one for a 250 mile bi weekly commute.
They typically have anywhere between as 60-90hp engine. I have a 39' J3 with a Continental 65hp and it'll fly fine with 2 people (approx 200lb each) on a mild temperature day @ around 2500ft DA. The fuel burn isn't all that different between my 65hp and my my mates 85hp. Normally budget on about 18ltr/hr or roughly 5gal/hr. If you're after speed and range you're out of luck with a stock J3. With a standard 12gal tank you're looking for somewhere to land after about 2 hours and cruising at about 70mph, you can do the math. However, lots of people install aux wing tanks up to about 12gal which increases your range. Let me know if you need any more info, they're truly an amazing little plane!
@@BenC1133 k thanks, my dad was telling me the model he has holds 40ga fuel and burn rate is 7ga hr. Perhaps I'm looking at the wrong model taildragger !?
@@jhoward7010 Possibly a PA-18 supercub? That'd be a different story for commuting.
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This is why CFIs should make students fly with no instruments regularly. Too many pilots never develop stick and rudder skills and most accidents can be traced to this. For example, 100% of base to final turn accidents could be prevented with basic coordination and airspeed/stall awareness. None of which requires an instrument and can actually be hindered by instruments.
I guess you'd still need a turn co-ordinator and ASI
Nope! You can feel the coordination of the airplane much more accurately than the instrument can measure and you can judge the air speed fairly accurately. Also, recall that the ball isn't even a FAR 91.205 required instrument for VFR day or night.
When flying an airplane using known pitch attitudes and power settings the airspeed will take care of itself. All aircraft also give plenty of warning when approaching as stall through control feel so that isn't an issue. The pilot must learn to listen to the airplane which seems to be a dying art these days. Far too much emphasis is placed on instruments.
Flying in a windy day can lead to an illusion of skidding during the base turn. It'd be hard to correct for this unless you had the ball wouldn't it? This illusions causes many accidents and deaths during the approach,
No. The base to final accident is the result of trying to rudder the nose around after overshooting, fear of a steep bank, and forcing back pressure in. It isn't the result of an illusion but bad pilot technique and inattention. Coordination is best felt by the seat of the pants, literally. How you sliding in the seat says it all. Wind might screw with your eyes but it doesn't do anything to your butt.
A slight skid in the pattern isn't going to spin an airplane. You really have to really work to make an airplane spin. It isn't uncommon to see students using no rudder in the traffic pattern at all. The airplane still doesn't get anywhere close to a stall let alone a spin.
This is exactly why it is so important to fly with no instruments. You learn to fly the airplane rather than play a video game. All three senses have to work together and you the pilot have to know what you are looking for. Control feel tells airspeed, vision tells glide path, and butt tells coordination.
Joshua Landry Absolutely correct. Unfortunately no flight sim driver will ever get the butt feel of uncoordinated flight or a few of the other signs that the aircraft is approaching a critical point in its maneuvering. Flight sims are great for many procedures, but only up to a point. I’m all for them--but only up to that point. If someone wants to be a safe pilot they will just have to bite the bullet sooner or later , get in an aircraft , and FLY.
Peter North?
I thought the landing was pretty good myself
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