I'll be keeping both of my Takara ones ... I got no problem with the way they look but I will say if Magic Square makes them in MP scale, Thiers would probably be the best... Magic Square has been killing it.
4:08 i remember this from years back. I bought the black version and then at a TFCon, this figure was used as a base for their pre-TFCon customization class day to repaint as the light green ambulance. I remember that's where I first learned the technique to create shiny, translucent looking, blue headlights.
There’s a good reason why we are only now getting new attempts at an mp ratchet/ironhide. Mp-27 was fine that no one really needed an upgrade, and the first in we got (XTB) is over complicated like most their figures I find, and super ugly Fanstoys looks good, definitely better than Xtb
Looks like they (XTB, FT, MS) are all gonna be a bit kibbly on the sides, so it’s a personal decision in the end. I have equal amounts of XTB & FT in my collection & the quality of both have been great for me. Ultimately, I’ve decided to invest in the Fans Toys, but there’s a part of me that wants something now, haha, & was seriously contemplating the X-Transbots.
I have the masterpiece versions but I'm waiting for the x-transbots ones to com in I'm gonna keep the masterpiece versions in vehicle mode and x-transbots in robot mode
I have the Takara Versions with the upgrades, which help out significantly. It's almost enough for me not to get involved. However, the mold is almost 10 yrs old. After seeing the panels and unsightly side torso in the xtransbots, I'll wait for Fanstoys.
I have both ironhide and ratchet with the shadow fisher upgrades. They look really good imo. But I’m still going to pull the trigger on the Fanstoys ones even though I don’t really need them.
Great video! Really enjoyed the comparison pictures. I have both the Voodoo Toys figures and the Takara version. I like both for different reasons. The Voodoo toys figures plastic is thin but it holds up. I currently have the Takara version with modifications as my displayed figures. I’m trying to hold out for FansToys but the Xtb versions don’t look like a bad alternative.
The Fans Toys are hitting all the right point for me with these characters. Love the direction so far. The Fans Toys proportions feel more like the G1 cartoon series with modern touches very heroic. The wait will kill me.
I got the kit for both of my Takara versions, and they fixed the hip kibble while not really affecting the alt mode. Sure, having to buy a kit is slightly annoying but it worked well and was easy to install. I do replace them, it will be the FT. Not feeling the xtb at all. Painted windows on MP look cheap and too toy like. Xtb should stick to doing the amazing real world altmodes they are so good at.
I have the Takara Ironhide and TFC Ratchet for variety. They're' both fine. I will likely get the XTB Ratchet for the less noticeable side kibble and the FT Ironhide. Though I'm still waiting to see if the FT vans will include the stupid battlestation in the transformation. That's a deal breaker for me.
I will probably get the x-transbot but I will wait for the review..from you..see if the transformation is like ,kup which broke..or good like springer, which was great..
This helps, unfortunately there aren’t a lot of good pics out yet of xtbs. I also think a cartoon comparison is needed here to each version. The takara with the the shadow fisher looks better to me than the xtb, but like I said I don’t think we’ve seen good enough pics of xtb yet. I didn’t know the voodoo robots ones existed it looks good. We’ll have to see how the ft turns out, I think they need to go with blue translucent windows though. The xtb looks cheap with the painted windows.
I really like the Takara's, even though they have their flaws, and, although both X-Transbots and FansToys look objectively better, I'm not convinced I need to replace them. I'm quite sure the transformations won't be as enjoyable as the Takara's and I'm not blown away by the alt modes either. I'm gonna pass for now and wait for the reviews, there needs to be a significant improvement overall before I can pull the trigger... they do look good though... 🙂
Im a huge XTB fan, but I have to pass on these 2. What gets me is the pivot joint at the front of the chest and van, I cannot unsee those. Looks like its MP or FTs.
The takara's are certainly NOT BAD, but they aren't great, I've never been fully satisfied. I do really like the fit and finish of them, and they're not hard to transform. They just don't pose very well. From what I see here, the FansToys do look pretty good. I wish the vehicle tires didn't stick out so far from the body of the alt mode. I don't think that's "accurate", but not awful.
So are those stupid lines going right through the windshield a part of the transformation? Because I'd totally put that sticker over it if it doesn't need to be moved for transformation.
I might be on the outside here the the XTBs in where I would have liked a little more love to be given vehicle mode, I do like the flat blue windows for bot mode I would like them to be more glossy and have that reflective sheen for vehicle mode, I'm not saying to give them the opening front door gimmick which creates more issues specially given where the door's hinges are located on a C120 Nissan Cherry Vanette. I do have one question about the arm joints cause I think I am seeing a butterfly joint and I don't see it been used, is that my imagination or am I correct in that the XTBs do have it, cause if that is the case the XTBs will be my main bots that I will use.
Couldn't pre-order NewAge Megatron fast enough. As for XTB vs FT Ironhide / Ratchet, I'll wait on those to see which I like better. I was going to buy XTB Ratchet but then saw the $150 pricetag and thought it was more of a $120 figure. Also, with XTB, I like to watch reviews first before committing to buy as their QC isn't always the best. I do like the torso of FT's version better and along with the one piece windshield.
I have Takara Ironhide (with upgrade and some of my own modifications to flatten the belly) and Voodoo Toys Ratchet. I'm waiting for FT Ratchet to replace the Voodoo POS. It feels so cheap. I don't like the XT proportions (elbows are too high, body too big for the legs) so I'll replace the Takara version if Star Toys or somebody else does it well.
I have the Takara versions and they’ll work until FT finally get released. My pattern has been get a decent fill in until FT. Don’t bother with the voodoo. I have the black version and it has a cheaper feel. Ok for display only.
The chest looks ghastly to me on the XTB. Overall they look better than takara but not better enough. i dont care to replace a figure with one that i know i immediately want to replace again
Alot of people may wait for the FT. I dont have Ratchet ot Ironhide becasue I dont like Takara version. I know I'll probaly perfer the FT versions, but I need to enjoy these 2 bots now to round out my season 1 colection. When FT is released, I wil probaly replace these.
FT is known for revealing figures that still have 3 years of work left just to prevent collectors from buying XTB which is BOTBLOCKING! Thier Ironhide may not be out until 2027 so I am looking forward to XTB this month
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Exactly. I collect some og trilogy Star Wars hot toys. When they announce a new version of a figure, some people sell their current version as fast they can. Why not continue to enjoy the figure until the new version comes out and then sell it. You may not get as much for it, but a least your enjoying having the figure for another year or more. Money can be an issue for some which is understandable, but to each there own I guess. Thanks for your content. Alwas a fun watch.
None of them do everything right. Fanstoys bot looks the cleanest but the facesculpt as it stands looks the worst. Xtb second best bot mode second best facesculpt. Takara oldest figure so no surprise its falling behind, but the facesculpts are spot on. Overall none are perfect, for that reason ill just keep with takara and the shadow fisher kits.
Something about the XTB just looks lifeless to me. It's hard to even figure out why, or what it is - maybe the plainness of the chest windshield, how it just looks like a flat square of paint? It doesn't even look much like a window; it's just a nondescript block of blue. Also not a fan of the lanky forearms or the belly area. Wiating for FT or just gonna stick with the MP (have the Shadow Fisher upgrade kits, which do help a TON).
And this is where parts forming for me is a benefit instead of all the crappy a*s accessories Why didn't they offer two panels that fit under the arms and clicks into something under the arm Place onto the body and click into place Simple
@@tydiriumhanger1320 someone who does 3d printing could size it up note where it could attach to it, print it and bingo you've got a 3d printed panel that covers it up and it's completely toon accurate. And you can easily take it off for transformation into ambulance
toon accurate is terrible in some cases MP Ironhide's crotch piece is just abysmally ugly, I just refer to it as a full diaper, it's that hideous, and the Takara MPs are flawed (the entire chest area, Ironhide's diaper ick....) the FT Ironhide crotch is less offensive, by a lot I have the Takara MP KOs and am glad that someone is producing a better version finally... the FTs versions already look good (as long as there are no major issues with them)
I have the XTB Ratchet and... it ain't great. The chest is greebly, the painted chest window looks awful and it's shedding paint left and right and I haven't even transformed the damn thing. Hopefully FT nails it, but I'm really not sure about that, either.
I'll be keeping both of my Takara ones ... I got no problem with the way they look but I will say if Magic Square makes them in MP scale, Thiers would probably be the best... Magic Square has been killing it.
Yeah that MS mould is totally killer!
Nothing wrong with sticking with your Takara and yes to MS being a bigger player at the MP level
4:08 i remember this from years back. I bought the black version and then at a TFCon, this figure was used as a base for their pre-TFCon customization class day to repaint as the light green ambulance. I remember that's where I first learned the technique to create shiny, translucent looking, blue headlights.
I saw a black version for sale on Ebay right now and looks cool
There’s a good reason why we are only now getting new attempts at an mp ratchet/ironhide. Mp-27 was fine that no one really needed an upgrade, and the first in we got (XTB) is over complicated like most their figures I find, and super ugly
Fanstoys looks good, definitely better than Xtb
Yes and FT may be better but how long will the wait be? May be worth the wait though but still fun to check out the XTB
Fans Toys
May be worth the wait
I'm keeping my Takara Ironhide and Ratchet, though I wouldn't mind a reissue of that Shadow Fisher upgrade kit.
That upgrade kit or yet another even better one would be cool
Looks like they (XTB, FT, MS) are all gonna be a bit kibbly on the sides, so it’s a personal decision in the end. I have equal amounts of XTB & FT in my collection & the quality of both have been great for me.
Ultimately, I’ve decided to invest in the Fans Toys, but there’s a part of me that wants something now, haha, & was seriously contemplating the X-Transbots.
I have the masterpiece versions but I'm waiting for the x-transbots ones to com in I'm gonna keep the masterpiece versions in vehicle mode and x-transbots in robot mode
That will be a great way to display them
weirdly I prefer the Takara for Rachet rather than XTB but FT just blows them all out of the water.
FT is quite clean
I have the Takara Versions with the upgrades, which help out significantly. It's almost enough for me not to get involved. However, the mold is almost 10 yrs old. After seeing the panels and unsightly side torso in the xtransbots, I'll wait for Fanstoys.
Yep may be worth the wait and may be years
All options are great, Great vid ✨️😀
And it is great to have options Thanks
I have both ironhide and ratchet with the shadow fisher upgrades. They look really good imo. But I’m still going to pull the trigger on the Fanstoys ones even though I don’t really need them.
They do look way better with the upgrade sadly that option does not exist for collectors these days
XTB Rachet, FT Ironhide… then you’ll have one of each mold.
That would make for a good set!
Great video! Really enjoyed the comparison pictures. I have both the Voodoo Toys figures and the Takara version. I like both for different reasons. The Voodoo toys figures plastic is thin but it holds up. I currently have the Takara version with modifications as my displayed figures. I’m trying to hold out for FansToys but the Xtb versions don’t look like a bad alternative.
Lots of great options coming down the pipeline
The Fans Toys are hitting all the right point for me with these characters. Love the direction so far. The Fans Toys proportions feel more like the G1 cartoon series with modern touches very heroic. The wait will kill me.
That usually is the biggest problem...The wait
I got the kit for both of my Takara versions, and they fixed the hip kibble while not really affecting the alt mode. Sure, having to buy a kit is slightly annoying but it worked well and was easy to install. I do replace them, it will be the FT. Not feeling the xtb at all. Painted windows on MP look cheap and too toy like. Xtb should stick to doing the amazing real world altmodes they are so good at.
I don't have any of those figures but I'd really like to see diecasted versions of Ratchet and Ironhide
XTB may have some diecast but FT always does
I have the Takara Ironhide and TFC Ratchet for variety. They're' both fine. I will likely get the XTB Ratchet for the less noticeable side kibble and the FT Ironhide. Though I'm still waiting to see if the FT vans will include the stupid battlestation in the transformation. That's a deal breaker for me.
Ratchet is the safer one to check out
I will probably get the x-transbot but I will wait for the review..from you..see if the transformation is like ,kup which broke..or good like springer, which was great..
True we never know especially with new molds and a bigger bot
This helps, unfortunately there aren’t a lot of good pics out yet of xtbs. I also think a cartoon comparison is needed here to each version. The takara with the the shadow fisher looks better to me than the xtb, but like I said I don’t think we’ve seen good enough pics of xtb yet. I didn’t know the voodoo robots ones existed it looks good. We’ll have to see how the ft turns out, I think they need to go with blue translucent windows though. The xtb looks cheap with the painted windows.
Yep I should have put in a toon comparison but the Sunbow pics never really match the animation and hard to get a full body animation cell capture
Can we get a voyager version for Ratchet and Iron Hide??
I really like the Takara's, even though they have their flaws, and, although both X-Transbots and FansToys look objectively better, I'm not convinced I need to replace them. I'm quite sure the transformations won't be as enjoyable as the Takara's and I'm not blown away by the alt modes either. I'm gonna pass for now and wait for the reviews, there needs to be a significant improvement overall before I can pull the trigger... they do look good though... 🙂
True if you have a representation no need to upgrade or swap out
Im a huge XTB fan, but I have to pass on these 2. What gets me is the pivot joint at the front of the chest and van, I cannot unsee those. Looks like its MP or FTs.
Yep it is not as clean there
I think xtb killed it! It's like a Takara 2.0 of the seeker mold. Imo! I think is near perfect!
The takara's are certainly NOT BAD, but they aren't great, I've never been fully satisfied. I do really like the fit and finish of them, and they're not hard to transform. They just don't pose very well.
From what I see here, the FansToys do look pretty good. I wish the vehicle tires didn't stick out so far from the body of the alt mode. I don't think that's "accurate", but not awful.
So are those stupid lines going right through the windshield a part of the transformation? Because I'd totally put that sticker over it if it doesn't need to be moved for transformation.
Yep it is spit down the window and yes to the sticker
I might be on the outside here the the XTBs in where I would have liked a little more love to be given vehicle mode, I do like the flat blue windows for bot mode I would like them to be more glossy and have that reflective sheen for vehicle mode, I'm not saying to give them the opening front door gimmick which creates more issues specially given where the door's hinges are located on a C120 Nissan Cherry Vanette. I do have one question about the arm joints cause I think I am seeing a butterfly joint and I don't see it been used, is that my imagination or am I correct in that the XTBs do have it, cause if that is the case the XTBs will be my main bots that I will use.
XTB usually does great butterflies and yes they may just not use them
Couldn't pre-order NewAge Megatron fast enough. As for XTB vs FT Ironhide / Ratchet, I'll wait on those to see which I like better. I was going to buy XTB Ratchet but then saw the $150 pricetag and thought it was more of a $120 figure. Also, with XTB, I like to watch reviews first before committing to buy as their QC isn't always the best. I do like the torso of FT's version better and along with the one piece windshield.
I really am interested in seeing what this NA Megs looks like and I do worry about XTB transformation holding up on Ironhide
I have Takara Ironhide (with upgrade and some of my own modifications to flatten the belly) and Voodoo Toys Ratchet. I'm waiting for FT Ratchet to replace the Voodoo POS. It feels so cheap. I don't like the XT proportions (elbows are too high, body too big for the legs) so I'll replace the Takara version if Star Toys or somebody else does it well.
I have been hearing the Voo Doo feels cheap but have never handled one yet. FT will probably win this one but in what year?
I have the Takara versions and they’ll work until FT finally get released. My pattern has been get a decent fill in until FT.
Don’t bother with the voodoo. I have the black version and it has a cheaper feel. Ok for display only.
Yep I even got the Takara and said it was only a filler until XTB or FT
Fanstoys ironhide, unless the price is crazy. Then the Takara KO will have to suffice. I'm more interested in the Sideswipe wars.
The sideswipe war begins with the Threezero one I will be reviewing soon! Not sure when the proper Mp versions will arrive
Voodoo and TFC are the only ones that look good to me. The plainess of the other options is painful!!! Tooners... Please continue with your vid. 👍🏾
Yes the older ones do have more realism and I am partially to blame for the Toon Blandness sorry
I still would like fantoys..I think I will wait for fantoys..
Nothing wrong with that and may be worth the wait
Takara looks great with the team, but the bad parts show up in comparisons.
Yep when you stop and look closely Takara has a lot of opportunities
MS has nailed it in my opinion
It looks great but when upscaled there will be more obvious gaps they will want to fill
Hold off on the NewAge Romulus Megatron, it's Earthrise size, not Studio Series.
The chest looks ghastly to me on the XTB. Overall they look better than takara but not better enough. i dont care to replace a figure with one that i know i immediately want to replace again
Alot of people may wait for the FT. I dont have Ratchet ot Ironhide becasue I dont like Takara version. I know I'll probaly perfer the FT versions, but I need to enjoy these 2 bots now to round out my season 1 colection. When FT is released, I wil probaly replace these.
FT is known for revealing figures that still have 3 years of work left just to prevent collectors from buying XTB which is BOTBLOCKING! Thier Ironhide may not be out until 2027 so I am looking forward to XTB this month
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Exactly. I collect some og trilogy Star Wars hot toys. When they announce a new version of a figure, some people sell their current version as fast they can. Why not continue to enjoy the figure until the new version comes out and then sell it. You may not get as much for it, but a least your enjoying having the figure for another year or more. Money can be an issue for some which is understandable, but to each there own I guess. Thanks for your content. Alwas a fun watch.
None of them do everything right. Fanstoys bot looks the cleanest but the facesculpt as it stands looks the worst. Xtb second best bot mode second best facesculpt. Takara oldest figure so no surprise its falling behind, but the facesculpts are spot on. Overall none are perfect, for that reason ill just keep with takara and the shadow fisher kits.
Something about the XTB just looks lifeless to me. It's hard to even figure out why, or what it is - maybe the plainness of the chest windshield, how it just looks like a flat square of paint? It doesn't even look much like a window; it's just a nondescript block of blue. Also not a fan of the lanky forearms or the belly area. Wiating for FT or just gonna stick with the MP (have the Shadow Fisher upgrade kits, which do help a TON).
And this is where parts forming for me is a benefit instead of all the crappy a*s accessories
Why didn't they offer two panels that fit under the arms and clicks into something under the arm
Place onto the body and click into place
Simple
That would be awesome if they did even if it is included with a later figure
@@tydiriumhanger1320 someone who does 3d printing could size it up note where it could attach to it, print it and bingo you've got a 3d printed panel that covers it up and it's completely toon accurate.
And you can easily take it off for transformation into ambulance
toon accurate is terrible in some cases
MP Ironhide's crotch piece is just abysmally ugly, I just refer to it as a full diaper, it's that hideous, and the Takara MPs are flawed (the entire chest area, Ironhide's diaper ick....)
the FT Ironhide crotch is less offensive, by a lot
I have the Takara MP KOs and am glad that someone is producing a better version finally...
the FTs versions already look good (as long as there are no major issues with them)
Yep and XTB delivers this month with some side kibble but may be years for FT
The whole torso area on the xtb looks messy.
Still better than Takara and some creative poses will counter that but FT may be a ways away
I have the XTB Ratchet and... it ain't great. The chest is greebly, the painted chest window looks awful and it's shedding paint left and right and I haven't even transformed the damn thing. Hopefully FT nails it, but I'm really not sure about that, either.
Well thanks for confirming it is fully painted! Is there a lot of Diecast?
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Yeah, there's plenty of diecast in the legs and waist, helps offset how top heavy it is. Nice weight to it.
None cause it looks cheap and no one should support X trans and their qc constant issues
I have had a good run with XTB since Fuzz. Not perfect but no major issues
XTB came out better than I thought it would. Still holding out for FT
Yes it is not perfect but still a huge step forward