Prog - The Ten Greatest Albums - (According to Ultimate Classic Rock)
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- Are these really the ten greatest progressive rock albums? According to Ultimate Classic Rock these are the best representations of the genre.
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Moody Blues-To Our Children's Children's Children...Porcupine Tree-Signify...Jethro Tull-Benefit...Mothers Of Invention-We're Only In It For The Money...Yes-Time And A Word...Genesis-The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway...Joe Byrd And The Field Hippies-The American Metaphysical Circus...Rollers-Elevator...Kayak-Royal Bed Bouncer...Mike Oldfield-Ommadawn...
Incomplete without Gentle Giant. Any album. Even the "bad" ones. But "Playing the Fool" is one of the best live albums ever.
I agree
live at the bbc is even better than playing the fool
I don't know how someone could claim Pink Floyd is prog light. Really bizarre. They are one of the bands that define prog rock.
Do they consider themselves Prog?
No they don't. The Wall is prog? No it's Arena rock.
@@paulbrookes413 I'm not sure how someone can listen to Echoes or Atom Heart Mother or Shine on You Crazy Diamonds and think "arena rock like Bruce Springsteen or the Doobie Brothers".
@@МаксРогозин-е1ю I don't really see how The Wall sounds much like most of their other albums. You need to do more explaining than that. Work harder next time.
@@stickman1742 quite many consider that dreck aka The Wall as their 'masterpiece'. A Waters solo stuff rather. And the Final Cut too. And Momentary lapse of Reason a Gilmour album with session men. Oh, Nick Mason you bastard indeed. Gained his millions without much work. Ok, Wish you Were Here is emblematic Pink Floyd album, right? Shine on you crazy Diamond I recommend to all who suffers from insomnia. Have a cigar and the title track not prog at all. What remains? Welcome to the Machine... yeah but I would call many tracks by other bands which I like more. Sorry to their fans but they were a middle of the road act and that explains their cosmic sales. Don't care really. There were plenty of bands more interesting than Pink Floyd.
"If you can talk about discipline in relation to progressive rock..." Well, King Crimson's later incarnations certainly do - it's their label! Not a bad list at all, though ELPs' first album must have been close. Dark Side was possibly a lazy choice - "Meddle" or "Wish You Were Here" might have been more appropriate. Also - though I admit it's not really top 10 material, I will admit a love of Greenslade's "Time and Tide". Not surprised it wasn't mentioned, but it'd have been nice :)
While I do agree 'Tales' is perhaps a more "proggy" release, 'Close to the Edge' as you state is tighter and IMHO a more perfected release start to finish. While 'Dark Side' got the oh so deserved sales 'Wish You Were Here' to me is also an absolute masterpiece which again start to finish is a more perfected complete work though certainly not by much... in the 8th grade I discovered and became a Rush fan starting with 'A Farewell to Kings' and for a couple of years in high school my friends and I listened to nothing else. While 'Moving Pictures' is masterful 'Hemispheres' as a prog album in particular is their true crowning achievement. Evidently the list you reference is perhaps to some extent more a ranking of sales?
if it weren’t for the popsong opener “Tiny Dancer” i’d pretty much label Elton John’s “Madman Across The Water” as prog.. definitely the title track.
The Lamb lies down on Broadway IS the greatest prog album. The musicianship, guitar, keyboards and drums is unmatched. In fact it is one of the greatest albums of all genre. Best wishes.
I wish the guitars were slightly higher in the mix
The Mars Volta is a mistake IMO given that opening up that space to recognize Gentle Giant, Camel, or Renaissance would have yielded a list more reflective of what many classic prog fans actually appreciate. Still, I am so bleeding happy to see PFM recognized here that I will not complain any further.
De-Loused is a freaking masterpiece though. It deserves to be talked about as one of the best prog albums ever. With only 10 spots, obviously lots of worthy candidates won’t make it. But in general modern prog is vastly overlooked despite there being a lot of it and a lot of it being as good or better than the typical 70s choices. At least one modern album should be on a list like this. And De-Loused is the most agreeable pick.
Waiting for ANY album by Gentle Giant...
#5 Thick as a Brick. Absolutely. Magnificent Prog Rock!
Running out of time/slots...
I certainly do realize that this is Ultimate Classic Rock's Top Ten Prog Rock list, but...
As true as Yes 'Close to the Edge' being a TOP SHELF Prog Rock pick is, any Prog Rock list WITHOUT Gentle Giant is...
CRAP.
Any Prog list Must include (at a minimum):
Yes
Genesis
King Crimson
ELP
Period. That is Prog.
Since that's 4 of the Big 5 of Prog, you won't get much debate on that. Pink Floyd of course is also in the Big 5. (Sorry Ian, Geddy).
U missed VDDG who Is fundamental
No ELP, isn't that funny - must be the same jokers who run the R&R hall of SHAME
ELP are clearly marmite. I've been listening to prog for over 45 years and have always found them to be overblown and pretentious. They are the stick that prog-haters use to beat us with.
I was in my late teens when 1970 rolled around and I went all of the way down the prog rabbit hole .
For me , part of what defined a prog band was what they could do in the live setting as well .
I saw all of the bands multiple times in the 70s , and the most entertaining concerts were always delivered by Jethro Tull , and Emerson , Lake & Palmer ( with Genesis and Yes not too far behind them ) . Therefore ELP would have an album in my top 10 ( likely Tarkus or Brain Salad Surgery ) .
Cheers !
As a Floyd aficionado I do wish Meddle or atom heart mother was in the list 😢
AHM - one of their finest
You just picked two of the absolute best Pink Floyd albums, my man.😉
I’m confident with time and perhaps alcohol you’ll get over it….
Atom Heart Mother is great, Meddle overrated
@@nectarinedreams7208 🤣Just say you don’t like it that much; it’s never been deemed “overrated”
Later albums have that distinction, but certainly not that one!😵💫
I don't understand why Relayer always gets overlooked. To me it's their highest achievement and some of their most accomplished and daring work.
It took some time for Relayer to grow on me, but Moraz will never be in the same class as Wakeman, and that's why the album is docked a bit.
I often forget Relayer as well. I think it's as good as Close To The Edge.
Absolutely agree. I rank Relayer in position 2. You can see my comment.
Relayer is my favourite Yes album. Closely followed by Tales from Topographic Oceans.
To me Relayer was a huge disappointment because I was buying those Yes records as they were released. CTTE was so damn good that the anticipation for the next record was very high. Although Relayer had some great moments I found it a bit harsh and Moraz’s Keyboard work too chaotic and non melodic. In a nutshell the Album made me kind of seasick when I listened to it. The return of Wakeman for Tales was a great relief and the anticipation for that Record was killing me as I wanted that huge recovery from the Moraz “years”. Once again some good stuff but I agree with Wakeman when he said it basically would have made a good single record. Even at that it’s a far cry from CCTE. This was the sentiment of many fans and critics in real time during 1974-1976. I’ve tried through the years to listen to and re evaluate my opinion and am even disappointed in the same way with Going For The One and Tormato. Both have great stuff but… Most fellow Yes fans find me crazy but I actually like Drama more than most post CTTE Records.
Chronologically the best Prog Rock albums are:
In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969)
The Yes Album (1971)
Aqualung (1971)
Fragile (1971)
Thick As A Brick (1972)
Close To The Edge (1972)
Foxtrot (1972)
Dark Side Of The Moon (1973)
Selling England By The Pound (1973)
Brain Salad Surgery (1973)
Really nice list. I’ll have to check out Foxtrot since we have similar tastes.
Heard all those albums and none are in my top 10. Let’s start with Porcupine Tree , Riverside, Malina, Haken, Dream Theater, something that’s not over 50 years old. You’re suggesting Prog is. Dead
@@kenjones6441 All those acts are hybridised bands of no rock importance that completely ripped off the bands of the actual progressive rock period of the late 60s/early 70s who created original music.
You stick with your unoriginal bands and I’ll stick with my original prog rock bands.
@@kenjones6441Love the bands you’ve mentioned but ‘Prog’ is progressive which it was 50 years ago.Dont think there is anything progressive from the likes of Dream Theater,Riverside etc.other than they’ve mixed prog with metal….Great stuff though..Just my opinion
A Yes fan by any chance?
No Area? PFM? Magma?
Red is better than ITCotKC. It's much better than anything by ELP.
IMO of course.
Not sure why ELP never get their due. Just tremendous work on their part, but no top ten here, the Hall of Fame hates them and so does Rolling Stone. Brain Salad Surgery has to be in the running or even their debut with “Take a Pebble” etc. Pictures at an Exhibition is also amazing. I understand the value of obscure contributors to the genre, but you cannot skip ELP.
Just forget this list, no ELP on the list is just crazy.
I think ELPs Trilogy or Brain Salad Surgery should have been included
Agree
CTTE is still on high rotation for me. If the title track plays, I always let it finish. And at 18+ minutes, it just seems to fly by. The greatest prog song and album of all time, IMO. Every song is flawless.
I really enjoy listening to all the Progeny versions - there is about 2 hours well spent
Nice to hear you pointing out “Heart of the Sunrise” and “South Side of the Sky.” Those are my favorites from “Fragile” as well (along with “Mood for a Day”).
And yes, “Grace Under Pressure” (for me) stands nearly as tall as “Moving Pictures.” This underscores my affinity for darker music. (see: HotS and SSotS)
It is interesting and delightful that Roger Dean's name is mentioned in many prog related documentaries and top tens and top forties. I believe his art works are becoming the visual landscape for prog rock music for many listeners.
I think they always were!
Totally. You got the full experience with his art work.
@@notreallydavid yes I meant that.. wrong grammar ... ✌
I find it interesting that Alan Parsons' name is so rarely mentioned in these kinds of lists. APP's 'Tales of Mystery and Imagination' would certainly be hovering around my Top 10 Prog Albums.
I concur!
Alan Parsons' is pretty much excluded from the prog party these days. So is Supertramp. I think they're both a little too sunny for the present day prog conversation.
@@willyupshaw Which is why I mention 'Tales of Mystery and Imagination'. Hardly 'sunny'!
1000% I agreed with you. My top ten best progs albums include Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Agreed.
Yes! Jethro Tull's THICK AS A BRICK makes the list. Superb record. Good to see Pink Floyd's DARK SIDE OF THE MOON here as well.
Glad to see someone else giving props to that Focus album. “ Eruption “ is definitely one of the great, epic prog tunes ever. And yet hardly anyone ever talks about it on all of these prog websites. That’s a real head scratcher.
Agree all the way ! Don’t get discussed enough in my opinion. Super band and fantastic live when I saw them in the 70’s.
Focus was amazing. I even got into their guitarists solo album back then. Forgot the name, it’s been a while.
@ER-me1ii
I'm unfamiliar with that name as well. In fact I have only 2 albums from them, Moving Waves and the Hamburger Concerto which I've grown very fond of. I really need to track down a couple of more from those guys.
@@stevecowder4774 The double album 'Focus 3' is, in my opinion, absolutely sublime...check it out!
@@stevecowder4774 Jan Ackerman! The name came to me. His solo album was awesome. Multi tracked guitar, very prog.
I expected, to see Meddle up in the top 10.
You should see how many likes and comments there are, on the Pink Floyd RUclips channel, especially Echos, many many youngsters
love it.
I can see Echos, included with the great compositions from the so called Golden era, that will be heard and loved for centuries to come.
IMO Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon is the greatest album ever! first heard it on it's release in 1973 and still listen to it today 51 years later.
There are some good tracks on those albums, in & amongst the pretentious twaddle that punk mercifully disposed of.
Tull, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, and Rush all have albums that belong in the top 10 for sure, although the “proper” album wasn’t always picked. And where are groups like ELP and the Moody Blues ??👨🏻
ELP has strangely dropped in prominence in a lot of media, which I find odd. That said, they never had a full album that I was 100% into. Trilogy for me was their best overall album.
Agree that the "proper" album wasn't always selected for each band. The albums listed are probably more important in prog history in terms of their influence, rather than what I would necessarily listen to by that band. For example, I would rather listen to Relayer than CTTE and Red over ITCOTCK. As for Floyd, I have no problem with DSOTM. I would rate Animals a close second. I know many Floyd fans would rather have seen Wish You Were Here, but I find it a difficult listen. I think it's mainly because of the overly bright sound, plus I think they were just trying too hard. That album could really have used Alan Parsons. Selling England was a good choice, IMO being the best Genesis album. I'm sure many Tull aficionados would pick Aqualung, but I don't consider it prog, certainly not like TAAB or APP.
Which ELP and/or Moody Blues album would you put ahead of those Yes, Genesis, Floyd and Crimson albums? Put your $$ where your foot is!
@@kbrewski1Learn how to read .. I didn’t say I would put ELP or the Moody Blues above those other bands! Do you just make stuff up to have something to say ? Geez..
@shipsahoy1793
If you want to add 2 more bands to the top 10, not only do you have to pick an ELP album and a Moodies album that is worthy of the top 10, but you then need to drop 2 from their list. This isn't just a list of top 10 bands. Its basic math. Or, you could just continue to whine if you don't have the balls to do it.
Hmnnn. PFM, but no ELP! Interesting.
ELP should be there
Didn’t ELP release PFM’s English language albums originally?
A little disappointed, although not entirely surprised to see such a safe and conservative top 10, with Yes and Genesis making up 40% of it, English bands making up 70%, and only two records that were released in the last 50 years. Not a great recommendation for anybody looking at getting into the genre.
Oh, it was Melchett that said "You twist and turn like a twisty turny thing. I say you're a weedy pigeon, and you can call me Susan if it isn't so!", not Blackadder.
Totally agree. There is so much more prog music out there than the same handful of classic English bands you hear about and a lot of them fused prog tendencies with more modern sounds and genres. Don’t get me wrong, the 70s stuff is great, but is it really that much better than Cardiacs, The Mars Volta, Oceansize, Bent Knee, Leprous, and literally hundreds of other bands I could name? Not really.
I agree with number 1. Close to the Edge is a pure masterpiece! But I would have liked to see Rush's 2112 and Marillion's Misplaced Childhood on the list.
Yes, I agree. I think it was no. 60 on the UCR list.
Misplaced Childhood is amazing by Marillion 👍
Definitely 2112
As great as MP is, AFTK and Hemispheres are both superior PROG albums.
If Moving Pictures is prog you could say Queens A Night At The Opera is prog
@@keithparker1346 Right. Which it’s not.
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Absolutely years, been over the edge for yonks
Been working me buns off for bands
I've always been mad, I know I've been mad
Like the most of us have
Very hard to explain why you're mad
Even if you're not mad
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I like the meanderings of Fragile, which so much was my background music to reading The Lord of the Rings, but you are right that Close To The Edge holds up best and also because Yes retained the same members a Fragile. Along with The Yes Album = Three of a perfect pair.
I always have to put in my 2 cents on the Rush choice. While I think Moving Pictures is indeed a very fine album, I feel it is over-rated, especially in terms of being a prog juggernaut. I tend to believe that it is only ranked atop lists like this simply because it is the album of theirs with the most hits on it, or at least gets the most radio play. Don't get me wrong, I love MP, but I think something like Permanent Waves (apt choice of T-shirt btw!) is a better representation of both prog and Rush altogether. This is where we really get the bridge from the full-on prog of the 70s to the sleek synthesized prog of the 80s. It has a perfect fusion of longer prog tracks like Jacobs Ladder and Natural Science while still containing a couple radio staples in Freewill and The Spirit of Radio. It does all come back to personal opinion at the end of the day, but I think these 4 tracks in particular represent the best of both Rush worlds better than anything else in their catalogue. If I were simply going on personal preference I might suggest Grace Under Pressure (as was mentioned in the video as well), but I think Permanent Waves is a perfect album top to bottom, no clunkers, no filler, pure prog mana.
Have to agree with.I think P.W. Is a better album and my favourite of the Rush albums I’ve heard.Not a bad tune on it !
Love your picks. Agree on Permanent Waves and yes to Grace Under Pressure. Fascinating album
Agree with Grace Under Pressure - my favorite Rush.
Have to defend MP. Every song is a stone cold classic.
@@musicartguy1 Like I said, I like Moving Pictures, I don't disagree. I just think Permanent Waves is a better representation of Rush & prog and is a more balanced album at the end of the day. 100% an opinion though too. Moving Pictures is much more a product of the 80s Rush whereas PW is a fusion of everything great about Rush
I can agree to Close To The Edge being the #1 Prog Album but as a HUGE Beatles fan I would gladly admit that Dark Side is the #1 Album in the history of “Rock”.
Many of us had cool friends who introduced us to great music in our teens. Life took over, we lost contact and the music moved on. But you have become the cool guy for me that gets the juices going again. And the best part is that i no longer think I'm looking back when i listen to you.
I won't join in on the Pink Floyd, are they Prog debate, but just ask this question. Why do the majority of Prog fans own a copy of Dark Side?
PFM definitely deserve a place on this list. I attended their UK premier at the Saddlers Wells theatre, where they opened for Pete Sinfield, who had just released Still, and they were great.
Making that gig more memorable was Greg Lake joining Sinfield on stage for the title track Still. (Also saw Mike Rutherford queuing outside before the doors opened)
Saw rush on both the moving pictures and permanent waves tour here in the UK. And saw tangerine dream in Preston guild hall.
In my humble opinion, a ten greatest prog albums list is impossible because it would leave a lot of great prog albums out. A hundred greatest would be much more like it. And even that may not be enough.
The magazine's list is 50, if you had listened to the video.
I've looked up the top 50 UCR list of Prog albums. It has all the favorites, the usual suspects. But it doesn't allow space for one album that surpasses many or nearly all of them. Hybris by Änglagård. Few Progressive Rock albums sound as good as they did after you've fallen deeply for the wonder of this album. Änglagård re set the bar with that one.
They didn't even list it in the top 50? I agree, not top 10, but its probably in my top 20 somewhere. I have seen Anglagard live 3 times, the 1st time they had THREE mellotrons on stage! Incredible band.
Genesis is not Genesis after Hackett?. Sorry, I dissagre. The heart of Genesis, their sound, lays on this little keyboard genious called Tony Banks. All the genesis music and ideas lays on the keyboard work. Mama, the knife, lamb, fifth, ilegal, etc, etc, etc, are full of the great musical keyboard passages and great ideas that sorrounds all genesis music. Hackert, Gabriel, Collins, yes they are great, but the heart of Genesis is Tony Banks.
Hi, you don't have to be sorry about not agreeing with me. This channel is at its best when music lovers can have these discussions. I think what I say in the video is that 'genesis just didn't feel the same' after Hackett's departure. And that's probably because I see his guitar stylings as very much as, not only shaping, but integral to the sound of this band... Tony Banks would disagree, I'm sure. But in saying that, I'm not suggesting that this band ceased to exist - I do enjoy the post-Hackett period ... but my heart will always be with those albums from 'Nursary Cryme' to 'Wind & Wuthering'
I'm a massive genesis fan so forgive me when I say my favourite genesis album is duke. It's got everything genesis always were , as far as yes is concerned it's going for the one , all day long and twice on Sunday.
Desole mais cette liste est juste RIDICULE.Pour choisir Les dix meilleurs albums dans un genre aussi vaste et varie que la prog, vous vous devez d'etre beaucoup plus affine dans votre choix et surtout ne pas plus d'un album par groupe!
The Top Three are exactly right choice-wise, although I might have Crimson at #1. I'd also have to throw Gentle Giant (Octopus) and Caravan (... for Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night) in there. ELP was a lot of talent that produced a lot of "meh"; the debut and BSS are their strongest statements. Prog-wise, Wish You Were Here is probably PF's best. Tried to think of a Renaissance album that might qualify and only came up with Ashes Are Burning, and I'm not sure that's enough. My personal Yes choice would be Relayer, but I'm aware that it's probably not the stronger of the two. Moving Pictures is damn-near perfect, but I'd agree that it's somewhat less proggy than PW and its immediate predecessors.
Gentle Giant is missing imo (I prefer GG than Mars Volta).
Yes, I agree
Someone has sorely omitted an ELP album as well as some Yes.. TRILOGY or BRAIN SALAD SURGERY qualify abundantly as do Yes's RELAYER, KEYS TO ASCENCION (studio tracks), DRAMA.
Where is Dream Theater? OK, they are Prog METAL... But Metropolis Pt..2 is such a great album....Or Change of Seasons - 1 Song, 20 min. But maybe he is to old for it...😂😂😂. Same with Transatlantic or Spock's Beard...
While I'd argue that Rush was prog at least at certain times, the album they've picked is a perculiar one. It's nowhere near as proggy as 2112. A Farewell to Kings or Hemispheres. In fact, if they hadn't made those three albums, no-one would be calling them prog at all. It's a bit like picking 90125 for Yes.
Very well said with the Yes comparison
I'd agree with the Yes comparison if Rush was full-on prog in the 70s. According to Alex and Geddy, Rush were a hard rock band with progressive inclinations. Neil considered Rush to be far more consistently and successfully progressive in the 80s because by not contriving to be prog, they became more than the sum of their influences.
Very good list!!! My top 10 would be 10- "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" Genesis 9- "Trilogy" Emerson, Lake & Palmer 8- "Thick as A Brick" Jethro Tull 7 - "Larks Tongues In Aspic" King Crimson 6 - "Foxtrot" Genesis 5 "Fragile" Yes 4 "Aqualung" Jethro Tull - 3 - "Red" King Crimson 2- Selling England By The Pound" Genesis 1- "In The Court Of The Crimson King" (just the track "Epitaph" overshadows all prog rock songs)!! I don't include Pink Floyd because I think it has prog but is much space rock or art rock. I'm so sorry not to include "Moonmadness" by Camel or any Gentle Giant, Focus, or PFM but it's just 10 albums!!!
Focus and the magnificent Moving Waves album is my personal no. 1 prog album.....
It’s a wonderful album and also Focus 3 is about as good.
@@paulkazakoff9231 agreed my friend....👍
Haven't seen the whole list but Moving Waves and the Power And The Glory by GENTLE GIANT should have been on the top ten list.
Why would two bands be listed twice?
Honestly with all these lists, we don't even have to wait to see the top 3, because it's ALWAYS some variation of 'Dark side of the moon', 'Close to the edge' and 'In the court of the Crimson King' lol!
Dark side of the moon should not even be on these lists in my opinion. Animals, yes.
Selling England by Genesis is frequently a top 3 pick on dedicated prog sites and magazines lists.
A top ten without anything from Emerson, Lake and Palmer? In the 70s, they were among the biggest bands in the world, up there with Zeppelin, the Stones, the Who and Floyd. These arbiters were probably toddlers in the 80s...
So glad to see PFM in there.
They are often criminally overlooked and underrated
Franco Mussida Is an amazing guitar player! But they aré all great really
So many bands from Italy. Area, Banco, Biglieto per l inferno, Celeste, Maxophone to name just a few.
Totally agree. There is a great little box set floating round containing the four Manticore label studio albums 1973-77. Some great music to be had.
I don t think so. In my opinion, the only great PFM record is L'isola di niente
PFM's "Cook" is one of the best live albums ever.
I am totally on your side with Dark Side of the Moon being prog and also being one of the greatest albums of all time. And I do agree with you about Rush being prog, but I don't agree with you about Moving Pictures, Moving Pictures is when they begin to get away from prog. I would have picked Hemispheres.
After all this masterpieces I understand you couldn´t put in this list Tales from Topographic Oceans because in my opinion is something else, something so big and magic and spiritual and universe connecting. I guess Yes should not have done more work as a group (sorry for Awaken) because it was impossible for them to overcome a work of such magnitude. I repeat, Tales deserves a position apart and higher than everyone.
I would argue that Pink Floyd was never prog, especially Dark Side Of The Moon. This is not a criticism of them at all. But even their lengthier pieces, either before or after, never really indulged in the kind of instrumental interplay that Yes or Genesis did, for example.
And if they were ever prog, I'd say they ceased to be from DSOTM.
Here's my list: Close to the Edge, The Yes Album, Fragile, Thick ad a Brick, Permanent Waves, The Grand Illusion, Yessongs, Beyond These Shores, The Book of Kells, Heaven's Bright Sun.
I fully agree with you about A PASSION PLAY. Superior!
No need to apologize for your neighbors, hardly heard it. You might want to hold onto something though so as not to knock anything over with your talking hands. 😆
The Magnus Pike of prog
Brain Salad Surgery has to be in the top ten.
No one ever said Rush is not prog did they? If they did, they certainly haven't heard Hemispheres, my personal #1.
I personally never considered Pink Floyd prog. I see it, but they are classic rock to me and that is quite separate from prog in my mind. Prog can't get to popular or it ceases to be progressive lmao
the lamb lies down on broadway by genesis and the snowgoose by camel should be on this list. i know many people don't even consider lamb their best album. but after hundreds of listens to their catalogue over 50 years, lamb is the best in my mind. i haven't seen anything in 40 years that would qualify for the list. i disagree with putting new stuff on it. prog as i knew it died in the 80's. rush should not be on this list. honorable mentions: khan- a space shanty, eloy- inside, van der graf generator- h to he, pulsar- strands of the future, nektar- a tab in the ocean.
I'm sorry, as good as the top ten were, I'm afraid that Trilogy by ELP should have been in there.
@ 0:48 , THANK YOU! I was caught up a bit in a progressive rock community and they kept insisting PFM's first album came out in the 1980's. Trying to make a nut case out of me I suppose. Now, the album I had in the 1970's was not this album, though, I did have an album from the later 1970's. I suppose they were just jealous because I knew who PFM was before they did. Huh.
Steve Hacket’s Voyage Of The Acolyte deserves Selling England By The Pound’s spot. Slide Dark Side Of The Moon and Foxtrot higher.
Topographic Oceans isn't tops?! Fake list!!
Yeah... it's not my list
Let us not forget that the moody blues really ushered in prog in nineteen sixty seven with their use of the melotron.
Two albums in the top ten from Genesis is fine, but three is asking a lot; but deserved. 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway' must be included, since it is not just one of the best Prog albums, but one of the best rock albums of all time.....certainly of the 20th century.
That's a fair opinion, but I don't think many in the progosphere would agree with it. Lamb is interesting, but it doesn't have the hooks of many of the best prog albums.
Rush would be more accepted as prog rock if they were from the UK rather than the Dominions.
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As an American who was broken in on British Progressive Rock… I find it very difficult to pick 10 of the best Prog Albums. That said. Any list of ten PROG albums not including ELP, Gentle Giant, Camel or Caravan isn’t much of a list.
Terrible music ! King Crimpers weren't bad though.
ELP's Brain Salad Surgery seems like an obvious overlooked Top 10 pick, but I must say it is hard to decide which of the others I would delete from the list.
As the biggest prog band around prior to their mid 70s hiatus, ELP are conspicuous by their absence.
@@bookhouseboy280As a HUGE fan of ELP, I concur.
I concur on your assessment of Genesis without Hacket.
Wouldn't be Genesis without Banks !!
I saw Genesis 10 times live all the way through to 2007, and IT WAS ALWAYS GENESIS LIVE.
I certainly appreciate this list a lot more than the top ten songs list. It does seem like they are biased towards Yes and Genesis - a deserved bias, but still it causes a loss in terms of bands like ELP, Porcupine Tree, Marillion, etc. I do agree that Deloused in the Crematorium should be in the top ten. It is a really incredible album. I concur about In the Court of the Crimson King - personally, I like Larks Tongues in Aspic more than Red, though Starless is hands down a most amazing song that still gives me chills.
👨🏻Lol.. I feel that way about “One More Red Nightmare” .. one other thing, I like the BRGHC line up of Genesis as well as the next guy, but I don’t think they’re album Nursery Cryme gets enough love. It was their first together, and it was indeed awesome. As soon as I saw the cover art, I thought, hmm, this could be good. Well, it was bloody excellent, and hence, several “classic” albums followed.
Sadly, all things must pass eventually..
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In agreement with 80's Rush. Love Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows, Signals and even Presto. While I love Moving Pictures, Permanent Waves add Clockwork Angels might better fit. There's so many albums that could fit the top 10.
1 Foxtrot by Genesis
2 Permanent Waves by Rush
3 Dark Side Of The Moon by Pink Floyd
4 Crime Of The Century by Supertramp
5 Operation Mindcrime by Queensryche
6 Selling England By The Pound by Genesis
7 Freak Out by The Mothers Of Invention
8 ELO II by ELO
9 Clockwork Angels by Rush
10 Tarkus by ELP
Foxtrot is #1 . I’ve only decided that after the getting over the drama of 26th March 2022 at the O2. And some quiet reflection. Oh and One day Marillion will occupy the top ten . IMHO of course
Take Rush out, put KarnEvil 9 in it’s place.
You forgot one band how about Emerson Lake and Palmer Tokish brain salad surgery the first album titled Emerson Lake and Palmer. Just thought I’d mention it.
I didn't forget it... It's not my list
Another stellar episode!!!
100% agree with Close to the Edge as number 1. A masterpiece.
Who am I to argue? My re appreciation of YES in my twilight years has proved to be a highlight of my lost vinyl experience as a youth whose ear wasn't trained to their sonic landscapes. I personally consider In the Court of the Crimson King a kind of one off album given Ian McDonald's contributions so noticeably absent from the next album. King Crimson as we know them re-emerged on the third album, Lizard, and continued through their various metamorphoses from there. The first album exists in a universe all its own.
Huge fan of Prog and Space Rock/Krautrock and have been since 1979 when I bought Court Of The Crimson King and Camenbert Electrique on a whim (liked the covers!!)...think both albums cost me something like £1.99 each!
Anyway, never understood the love in for Rush...just don't get it. I should like their music it has all the right ingredients, long instrumental passages, brilliant musicianship etc. But I just can't get into them. A mates brother used to play 2112 ALL the time and rave about it (as well as Fly By Night). To me it just sounded like ELO mixed with a bit of Zeppelin.
Good to see Mars Volta getting a mention.
I don't think this is a good list at all. Fragile and Moving Pictures don't belong. And as much as I love Court of the Crimson King, I don't think it's King Crimson's best for an all-time prog list. And where's Gentle Giant? Power and the Glory could be a top 3. Or Octopus. Those albums are pinnacle prog.
I agree with you about 'Octopus' , it would have made my list
I didn't expect PFM on the top 10, i personality prefer their 2003 album Stati di imaginazione because it's a different favor of 21st Century progressive rock but to each their now, not a bad list by the way
The Greatest Rush Prog album is Clockwork Angels. Period!! Hold Your Fire is 2nd. Get it right mate.
The title of this video states 'According to Ultimate Classic Rock'... it is not my list - get it right mate... and you opinion is no more valid than anybody else's ... period.
Seemed like a limited list to me somehow. Perhaps, only one album per group would be a good rule. Surprised by #9 and #10… who are they? Many of my favorite bands are ignored, ho hum.
I agree about the one album per artist, but then it is not my list
I would classify Rush as prog but Moving Pictures despite being a great album is not prog
Sing To God.
Bad list without ELP. Brain salad surgery is a cornerstone of Prog.
I thoroughly enjoy your reviews. Since opinions are like A-holes as they say mine is about as valid as anyone’s but as you were counting down I was in shock that my pick was number 1. PFM, Rush, 2 for Genesis and what? No ELP? C’mon. Tarkus needs to be on there. But hey, they got the 1 spot right. What else could it be? I’m biased anyway. CTTE dominated my teen years and impacted me more than any release will ever be able to.
This wasn't his list. Read the title.
@@kbrewski1 where did I say this was his list? Read my comment.
These are only my opinions.
I agree with your comments about Genesis without Hackett. When he left, the band lost a vital element. Who has been keeping Genesis music alive in this millennium?
Foxtrot vs SEBTP. Close, but I think Foxtrot by a short nose. There isn't a single weak track. Time table and Can-utility are often overlooked, but they are also under-rated. On the other hand, the middle section in Firth of Fifth is perhaps the finest instrumental break ever, flute, piano, synth, then Hackett's wonderful solo.
King Crimson - was there ever an album side with 3 such contrasting pieces? - the frenetic mania of 21st Century Schizoid Man followed by the wonderful tranquility of I Talk to the Wind, and then the majesty of Epitaph which I think just pips the title track.
DSOTM - don't try and pigeon-hole it into a genre. It's simply a great album with Roger Water's finest lyrics set to wonderful music which just flows from start to finish. And the spoken bits add so much context.
Steve Hackett should be grateful that Genesis didn't put up a legal stink with him calling all these tours, cd, dvd, and blu ray releases GENESIS Revisited. Its given him a comfy retirement fund for his 7 years of labor in the band. That wouldn't have happened if he had been in Yes (see ABWH, ARW etc). Or Crimson.
I love Hackett, have been to all his Genesis Revisited Tours, bought most of his albums, but I also saw him live BEFORE he started playing a lot of Genesis tunes in his show,and they didn't draw quite as well. Springfield IL, small 300 seat theater, not quite half full. Border's book store in Chicago on a Saturday afternoon, playing some acoustic stuff live trying to sell some tickets to a gig. He should be very grateful.
@@kbrewski1 I agree, Hackett's use of both the Genesis name and playing Genesis music is a much bigger draw-card than his solo stuff. It's equivalent to a classical pianist playing Chopin vs his or her own compositions.
The comparison of Genesis vs Yes or Crimson doesn't quite stack up. Both Yes and Crimson have had a revolving door of musicians and have remained much more active than Genesis, who post Calling All Stations only got back together for a couple of tours - no new music.
It would not have made sense, financial or otherwise, for the remaining members of Genesis to block Hackett from using the name. They have benefited considerably from songwriting royalties from all the DVD sales. A win-win situation.
@madhouze1
I didn't claim Genesis SHOULD have raised a legal stink. I said they COULD have, but did not. The Yes messy situation is a perfect example. Genesis has too much class to do that.
I have them all, exept for Rush. Never liked that band. Bought all these album around the time they were released. It's difficult for me to make a top-10, because imho there are too many ex-aequo albums, so for me the Yes-album, the Lamb, Wish you were here, some Gentle Giant, Greenslade, Camel's the Snowgoose etc.etc. could have been on the list. Nice that PFM is on it. Being from the Netherlands, my parents were on holiday in Italy in 1973 and they've searched every shop there for PFM-albums. They took two with them: Per un amigo and Storia di un minuto (their first album). I have three more albums of them, all very nice.
I gotta go with In the Court of the Crimson King for #1! PLAY LOUD
Thank you for the list! Love the Mars Volta inclusion! Great album!
Agree with Close to the Edge. Totally expands musically complexity but the beauty and atmospheric wonder of the album draws you in. And all the dissonance and jazz meets prog rock. It's amazing!
Really - I agree with most. I LOVE 70's Rush. But when they get to Motion Pics it seems the guitar sound has lost all the gritty guts and power and transitioned into the Strat, chorus etc enhanced but no-guts sound... to me Fly By Night or Farewell to Kings or Permanent Waves... Plus the Rush boys are excellent musicians, however, I always thought of prog rock as being bands were everyone is an absolute master musician and they changes keys and time sigs a lot. Geddy is a genius bass player, but not on keyboards. Love to hear your thoughts on that. haha!
Thanks again!
It's not my list, but it aint bad
@@classicalbum oh sorry - I guess I spaced out on that first 30- seconds or so. Hahahaha. I know you're a Passion Play - Topographical guy. Ha! 2 albums I admire, but don't love like Thick and Close.
Any thoughts on the Alex's guitar sound on MPs?
I think his guitar sound rapidly changes in the 1980s to fit the new atmosperics they were exploring. But I like what Rush were doing in the 80s - 'Hold Your Fire' I have criticised, but that's more due to the production than the songs themselves
Fly by Night is nowhere CLOSE to being a Prog album. Its a straight ahead pedestrian hard rock album. Rush's first 3 albums are not Prog Rock. That started with 2112 and Hemispheres. I would say Kansas' 70s albums are much more progressive than Rush's first 6 albums. I'd put Leftoverture in the top 10 over Moving Pictures. Back in the 70s, no one ever considered Rush as "prog" like Yes, Genesis, ELP, Crimson. After Perm Waves and Moving Pictures they started getting more prog credibility in the early 80s.
The Race for Space by Public Service Broadcasting is imo a modern prog classic.
Great list. IMHO should be included in places 10, 9, and 2 "Animals" (PF), "Brain Salad Surgery" (ELP) and "Relayer" (Yes), respectively.
Those that say Rush is prog has never heard A Farewell to Kings or Hemispheres.
Agree
Pink Floyd is not a Prog band, and DSOTM is not a prog album.
PERIOD.
I'm paused at #5. Numbers 1-4 on this list are Gentle Giant's Octopus, ELP's 1st album, Yes's Close to the Edge, and Selling England by the Pound. It'll be interesting to see which of those great, fully Prog albums you left off the list to include Dark Side, an unquestionably great but also unquestionably NON-PROG album. Please continue...
OK, KC belongs on the list. Not for the album you put on the list, though. Would've accepted Red, or Disipline. "Court" is a very good debut album, but has not aged well.
You left off Octopus, and that great 1st ELP disk. I'm sure PFM is well-loved by the 7 people who bought it. Is there a "Boys In The Band on it? A "Take a Pebble"? Back to the woodshed with you...
(Dark Side is NOT A PROG ALBUM....)
This is NOT my list. It is the list of 'Ultimate Classic Rock'
@@classicalbum Apologies. My bad. Will check better in the future...