Love you showing love too ghosty and attach I think both are incredibly underrated at the moment ❤ and same goes for slasher the disrespect Boston showed him this year is actually heinous😢
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Only consistent player for his team this year yet he's seated right next to all his teammates on the list. Mind blowing 😂. Get him up there with the other event winners/event MVPs this year what are we doing
Lyynnz on C lmao I need to know what you guys smoking dude has been the only reason behind Rokkr wins this season especially on those game 5 SNDs and you're telling me Beans is better than Lyynnz ? lmao we're not watching the same CDL
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@@babyboikash1028The best players in the league are dropping "mind blowing" statistics all to win the same amount of events this year as shottzy. We act like all these other guys are untouchable, why aren't they winning more?
@mkwsoxfan nobody acts like they are untouchable lol clearly not if every top 4 team won. But the other guys are not out here losing 7 GAMES IN A ROW and went an entire month without winning a single game. That's just sad.
@@babyboikash1028 they're the only team with 2-3 MVP candidates a year. Only team that gets the privlidge of having multiple S tier players without needing to win to back it up. The team you're clowning for flopping/struggling has the same number of wins in the last three titles as the team that wants to be recounted as a dynasty. So either optic is embarrassing for barely winning and so is faze, or they are both winning at a comparable rate 🤷♂️ take your pick
@mkwsoxfan so you're crying about the most popular and highest paying team in the league with the most fans have it hard because the need to win lol???? Yall love to bring the last 3 titles but what about the last 4 or 5(Start of CDL) titles? Then that conversation wouldn't even be close lol. Also, Shotzzy was a MVP, Pred was in the running for MVP on Vanguard and MW2, Kenny won Champs MVP but yall don't have MVP players. Lol Faze has never lost 7 straight games lmao so Optic is just embarrassing
If Trei says he knows ball and he’s looking at the whole year than Kenny a thousand percent should be in A! Before the 4th stage Kenny was the reason they were a top 2 team!
MVP meaning Most Valuable Player, has to be Hydra. Nysl is literally nothing without Hydra. You take each teams remaining trio without simp, scrappy and hydra then its clear cut nysl have the worst trio. Cellium, Drazah, Abezy and Insight, CleanX, Envoy are both better trios than Sib, Skyz, Kismet this year.
@@shafialanower3820Simp has better teammates which is why he’s able to have more objective time. If hydra was sitting on objectives all year nysl wouldn’t be top 4
How can someone be S tier that lost 7 straight games? Before Major 4 people had him in S but you can't lose that many games and think you are at the top
Which member of faze does the best without the rest of their faze teammates? Personally i think cellium regresses the most (he'll still have a 1.0-1.1) if simp/abe arent in front of him
I think the rookie class talk is crazy. This year no rookie has come in and been put on a good conpentent team. I feel like every year a rookie comes in and is already put on a good team…. Abuzah has surge….. Gwinn has Ravens….. Gio has Vegas….. lol. Come on now
Even though Clay may be retiring, he's still better than Accuracy. I actually don't understand the logic. CAR was far more competitive vs the top 4 then MIN and Clay plays at a faster pace than Accuracy WITH slightly better stats. Some family cheese right there.
Not a cod comment but pray for my gfs cat his name is binx n he been missing for 3 days now. Keep doin ur thing tho boys love the in between major n champs lull content, thank you for helping take my mind off the kitty for a lil bit
So once again during the off-season there is a possibility again sounds like optic texas makes a roster change after champs depending on how they do ?? TBD
Kenny is a really solid player Shottzy is a hit or miss and makes plays to win the game. Dashy is more solid than a miss. Pred is also a hit or miss. We can't have two hit or miss SMGs. We need a solid all-around player. Hydra and optic won't lose ever again
@@darkflamemaster9334 you need to put numbers, cause a player just cant keep going negative and be called a solid player. Fine I'll agree kenny brings a lot more on the table than it is visible, one might also argue that it was solely his mentality that got em the major 3 title but he played lights out during major 3. Whereas shotzzy never had a bad series the entire major 4 quals where his team was getting owned, shit they were defeated by boston to top it all off. They brought in pred to put up numbers, to slay basically. But he ain't doing his darn job. Dashy played really well on lan but again the numbers he put up weren't against top teams so idk if i would even call him solid if we solely talk about his past months performance. And about hydra i feel like him and shotzzy play too similar and even hydra runs around the map without playing the obj so one of em have to adjust and change their play style meaning idk if they would be the best versions of themselves.
@@casualcat9386 Kenny joined and they won a championship after 800+ days but you are right shottzy could take a hit with hydra on the team but I don't think it would be massive considering ant has the most unqiue playstyle
@@namename-db6nj Pred joined and they won a championship after 800+ days. I know you don't want to include Pred but it wasn't just Kenny that joined and believe it or not Pred did help the team win major 3.
04 not being in a is a fucking travesty, he’s the best sub not on a top 4 team and played better than envoy and kis over the past 2 majors, in big games he’s been let down by his teammates.
@@BreakingPointGG was simp not 2nd in mvp voting in bo4 whilst missing the first two events and a portion of league matches in bo4? Why are we restricting someone’s placement on a grid as a result of lack of time. I’d argue he’s the bottom of A. Completely turned seattles spiralling around, made abuzah look like a roty candidate, without 04 he wouldn’t be in the convo. Against the top 4 he’s the one who’s always looking like he can compete a guaranteed 6-8 kills in snd this pedigree is ridiculous. Could it be a one season wonder? Yes but fuck me this is some half season to have.
No rookie has had this consistent of an impact this year. 2 majors in and he’s been the best/most impactful player on the team without the bumps in consistency the likes of abuzah, gwinn lynzz have had.
Just got to the mvp convo. Ace is faded. The idea that hydras numbers mean more because his teammates are worse is complete fugaze. THE FACT simp has the same/slightly higher numbers despite the elite teammates he has is fucking abnormal if hydra was on faze he’s dropping a 1.06 because there is only so many kills to go around and he plays more like Abe than simp. Actually think simp on New York enables kismet more to be the bulldog and allows sib to go rouge just that little more too. Also disregarding scrap who’s far and away the best ar in the game is ridiculous. You think they could replace him and still compete for chips 😂😂 fucking comedy gold.
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moving ghosty up between cellium and cleanx. moving kenny down between skyz and insight. pretty much agree with all the rest. yes ghosty hasnt won an event, but hes also the only reason thieves are going to champs. hard carrying all year.
All that matters in cod is championships, if nobody has two on the year, all the guys with 1 are on a level playing field. We didn't celebrate 2nds as a community until faze had a trophy case full of 2nd places
@BreakingPointGG oh agreed 100% but when they say the full year is what we're counting then that's it. Honestly i feel like simp has outplayed hydra anyways but just making a point for the rules they gave.
Especially egregious is the fact that we WANT to see dominance, we WANT to see FaZe be a dynasty. But it's just so far from reality with the way they've performed the past three seasons. Same way we WANT to see OpTic win.
Just on the rookie class comment. The best rookie class ever is bo4, simp abezy (first full year competing) cell dylan majormaniak kismet skyz jurnii and mettalz were gross at bo4 same with Brack. That year was disgusting.
Idk how it came to be a good list, but all I know after watching this is that Ace is a KDA andy. I know you can't talk eyetest for every player since that would like a 13 hour stream if you were doing rankings, but jesus...Do it for at least a couple of em.
Like you said, without looking at stats to refresh their memories, it would take 10+ hrs. Was supposed to be a short stream that turned into a 3+ hr show. Appreciate the thoughtful comment.
He’s had 1 great stage on LAN and 1/2 more good stages where the other three players have been consistent year round. The guys will do another list after Champs. Thanks for the comment
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Ace my boy but the Simp downplaying has to stop immediately. Simp is doing better than Hydra in 2 game modes, but because Hydra makes chaos look good, he thinks Simp won't make NYSL better. Actually, Simp would bring better structure and comms to them, and Hydra would make Faze more chaotic.
They're nearly identical in overall kd (1.14), and HP kd (1.14 vs 1.15). Simp has the better SnD KD, while hydra has the better control KD. What exactly are you attributing as "chaos"? Hydra has a larger impact on his teams success than simp does due to simp having multiple other MVP candidates on his team, while hydra has 3 A tier (at best) players alongside him. Hydra doesn't have the overall league KD leader on his roster by him, and no other NYSL members are in top5 for any other statistical categories. Hydra is carrying worse players to the same success as simp. As to could they swap places and both teams succeed, yes they could, but faze would improve because hydra is doing identical to simps with less support as is
@mkwsoxfan Skyz and Kis both have MVPs from events so stop lying. Also, Simp has a better HP KD with wayyyyy more hill time than Hydra(bottom 3 hill time), better SnD KD while being the primary bomb planter, Simp has almost 100 more zone captures in Control with having very close KD 1.11(Simp) 1.14(Hydra). So how is Hydra a bigger impact again????
@@babyboikash1028 season MVP candidates not event candidates (faze would have more event win MVPs if they won more events). WTF you mean simp has a "way better" HP kd its literally a difference of 0.01?!? Simps got more time cause he has the leagues biggest stat padder on main AR 😂. Hydra is more valuable to his team because without his input his team is significantly worse off, faze is still in the top 4 if you replace simp with any B tier or above smg. Hydras team needs his production to be successful, faze still has top5 statistical category leaders if simp doesn't exist. That's hydras impact. Simp has been great, hydra is pound for pound a more valuable piece to NY than simp is to faze 🤷♂️
Personally i think shotzzy has a bigger impact for his team than simp. Maybe simp is more consistent but peak shotzzy in s2 online and major 3 Sunday was at least tied to peak simp. My point is that optic w/o Shotzzy would be far worse
Trei really thinks simp teammates aren’t that good compared to nysl or ultra. This simp does obj argument is so dumb he can do obj because he also has elite slayers around him. Hydra and scrap don’t have the luxury to play average they Have to perform
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Love you showing love too ghosty and attach I think both are incredibly underrated at the moment ❤ and same goes for slasher the disrespect Boston showed him this year is actually heinous😢
@zaineskinner8172 attach and ghost definitely aren't underrated hahaha everyone's been saying they've been frying this year.
Ace leaves Trei speechless with 90% of his arse takes
Ace is literally a 5’4” midget 😅😅
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:27 Heretics Coach in the EWC
00:04:47 Boston Breach Potential EWC Roster
00:13:39 Captain Censor: Look at me, I'm the GM now.
00:16:05 Potential RØKKR Roster?
00:24:04 CDL Player Tier List (2.5 hours)
03:17:49 Outro
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Interesting that every player to win an mvp for a stage this year is in S except one
Only consistent player for his team this year yet he's seated right next to all his teammates on the list. Mind blowing 😂. Get him up there with the other event winners/event MVPs this year what are we doing
Even crazier in retrospect when we see who won champs mvp
Ace you still can’t be this hurt about snoopy 😂
Trei face when Ace started talking about Asim 1:50:00 lmfao
Vegas got 3 players in B tier while not making champs, those boys are straight up killwhoring lol
As a Surge fan I hope they build a roster around 04 and abuzah, I honestly think Big Ben Beans would fit great on that roster
Ayy 3 hour show letz get it. Appreciate the grind, gentlemen 🫡
Lyynnz on C lmao I need to know what you guys smoking dude has been the only reason behind Rokkr wins this season especially on those game 5 SNDs and you're telling me Beans is better than Lyynnz ? lmao we're not watching the same CDL
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@@BreakingPointGG has that actually been communicated to anyone? First I’m hearing of it.
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@@BreakingPointGGthat’s understandable but why don’t you have the regular edited episode up for free? Without the extra content. Regular listener especially during work 🫡
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wasn't Shotzzy out here breaking records back-to-back for a little stint this year and has been consistent? solid list tho fr
He broke Optic's consecutive loss record
@@babyboikash1028The best players in the league are dropping "mind blowing" statistics all to win the same amount of events this year as shottzy. We act like all these other guys are untouchable, why aren't they winning more?
@mkwsoxfan nobody acts like they are untouchable lol clearly not if every top 4 team won. But the other guys are not out here losing 7 GAMES IN A ROW and went an entire month without winning a single game. That's just sad.
@@babyboikash1028 they're the only team with 2-3 MVP candidates a year. Only team that gets the privlidge of having multiple S tier players without needing to win to back it up. The team you're clowning for flopping/struggling has the same number of wins in the last three titles as the team that wants to be recounted as a dynasty. So either optic is embarrassing for barely winning and so is faze, or they are both winning at a comparable rate 🤷♂️ take your pick
@mkwsoxfan so you're crying about the most popular and highest paying team in the league with the most fans have it hard because the need to win lol???? Yall love to bring the last 3 titles but what about the last 4 or 5(Start of CDL) titles? Then that conversation wouldn't even be close lol. Also, Shotzzy was a MVP, Pred was in the running for MVP on Vanguard and MW2, Kenny won Champs MVP but yall don't have MVP players. Lol Faze has never lost 7 straight games lmao so Optic is just embarrassing
Hydra is deff the best player in the game. But the difference between him and simp is really small
The largest difference is simps team is better, and Paco is doing identically with less help. Hydra clears
If Trei says he knows ball and he’s looking at the whole year than Kenny a thousand percent should be in A! Before the 4th stage Kenny was the reason they were a top 2 team!
Reece should be B
Fire Tier list.
MVP meaning Most Valuable Player, has to be Hydra. Nysl is literally nothing without Hydra. You take each teams remaining trio without simp, scrappy and hydra then its clear cut nysl have the worst trio. Cellium, Drazah, Abezy and Insight, CleanX, Envoy are both better trios than Sib, Skyz, Kismet this year.
But simp does OBJJJJ clearly better than hydra scrap /s
@@shafialanower3820Simp has better teammates which is why he’s able to have more objective time. If hydra was sitting on objectives all year nysl wouldn’t be top 4
Scrap had the highest hill time out of them and did that with an ar...@@shafialanower3820
shotzzy not in S is faded imo
How can someone be S tier that lost 7 straight games? Before Major 4 people had him in S but you can't lose that many games and think you are at the top
@@babyboikash1028world champ
Does this ace guy, actually watch any cod?
Which member of faze does the best without the rest of their faze teammates? Personally i think cellium regresses the most (he'll still have a 1.0-1.1) if simp/abe arent in front of him
Ace loves glazing Hydra.
Lol even with the numbers showing Simp does more on the map and had the same KD he still can't admit Simp was better all year
Shotz in s is Chalked asf
I think the rookie class talk is crazy. This year no rookie has come in and been put on a good conpentent team. I feel like every year a rookie comes in and is already put on a good team…. Abuzah has surge….. Gwinn has Ravens….. Gio has Vegas….. lol. Come on now
Before I watch this is gonna be the cheesiest tier list, just gotta remember that these are non pros making the list
Trei is a T50 player of all time (and at least C-Tier career, according to Ace)
Trei was a pro lololol
@@BreakingPointGG trei being t50 is a big stretch he isnt even t10 in wins for europe alone lol, maybe around T75
People really think Pred should be in B tier after one bad stage like the other 3 stages never happened lmao
Even though Clay may be retiring, he's still better than Accuracy. I actually don't understand the logic. CAR was far more competitive vs the top 4 then MIN and Clay plays at a faster pace than Accuracy WITH slightly better stats.
Some family cheese right there.
Not a cod comment but pray for my gfs cat his name is binx n he been missing for 3 days now. Keep doin ur thing tho boys love the in between major n champs lull content, thank you for helping take my mind off the kitty for a lil bit
Praying for Binx 🙏
Would love to see Cobra with Lynnzz
So once again during the off-season there is a possibility again sounds like optic texas makes a roster change after champs depending on how they do ?? TBD
Pred according to me should be B and shotzzy S as he was the best player in their team the entire quals while playing with a handicapped team
Glaze
Kenny is a really solid player
Shottzy is a hit or miss and makes plays to win the game.
Dashy is more solid than a miss.
Pred is also a hit or miss. We can't have two hit or miss SMGs. We need a solid all-around player.
Hydra and optic won't lose ever again
@@darkflamemaster9334 you need to put numbers, cause a player just cant keep going negative and be called a solid player. Fine I'll agree kenny brings a lot more on the table than it is visible, one might also argue that it was solely his mentality that got em the major 3 title but he played lights out during major 3. Whereas shotzzy never had a bad series the entire major 4 quals where his team was getting owned, shit they were defeated by boston to top it all off.
They brought in pred to put up numbers, to slay basically. But he ain't doing his darn job.
Dashy played really well on lan but again the numbers he put up weren't against top teams so idk if i would even call him solid if we solely talk about his past months performance.
And about hydra i feel like him and shotzzy play too similar and even hydra runs around the map without playing the obj so one of em have to adjust and change their play style meaning idk if they would be the best versions of themselves.
@@casualcat9386 Kenny joined and they won a championship after 800+ days but you are right shottzy could take a hit with hydra on the team but I don't think it would be massive considering ant has the most unqiue playstyle
@@namename-db6nj Pred joined and they won a championship after 800+ days. I know you don't want to include Pred but it wasn't just Kenny that joined and believe it or not Pred did help the team win major 3.
04 not being in a is a fucking travesty, he’s the best sub not on a top 4 team and played better than envoy and kis over the past 2 majors, in big games he’s been let down by his teammates.
04 only played half the season. He would likely be higher if he played longer
@@BreakingPointGG was simp not 2nd in mvp voting in bo4 whilst missing the first two events and a portion of league matches in bo4? Why are we restricting someone’s placement on a grid as a result of lack of time. I’d argue he’s the bottom of A. Completely turned seattles spiralling around, made abuzah look like a roty candidate, without 04 he wouldn’t be in the convo. Against the top 4 he’s the one who’s always looking like he can compete a guaranteed 6-8 kills in snd this pedigree is ridiculous. Could it be a one season wonder? Yes but fuck me this is some half season to have.
No rookie has had this consistent of an impact this year. 2 majors in and he’s been the best/most impactful player on the team without the bumps in consistency the likes of abuzah, gwinn lynzz have had.
Just got to the mvp convo. Ace is faded. The idea that hydras numbers mean more because his teammates are worse is complete fugaze. THE FACT simp has the same/slightly higher numbers despite the elite teammates he has is fucking abnormal if hydra was on faze he’s dropping a 1.06 because there is only so many kills to go around and he plays more like Abe than simp. Actually think simp on New York enables kismet more to be the bulldog and allows sib to go rouge just that little more too. Also disregarding scrap who’s far and away the best ar in the game is ridiculous. You think they could replace him and still compete for chips 😂😂 fucking comedy gold.
Damn RAB's gone Hollywood on us
whoever thinks simp isn't mvp has been blinded by recency bias
Snoopy D tier
this list is chalked any player ahead of any of the top 4 your faded especially because of kd is crazy
This gonna go up on Apple Podcasts?
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Why does i have to pay on Spotify to get acces to this podcast but it's free here ?
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Zero arguing pred and sib stats when ones in AR and ones an SMG and the SMG is keeping up with the AR just think about that
moving ghosty up between cellium and cleanx. moving kenny down between skyz and insight. pretty much agree with all the rest. yes ghosty hasnt won an event, but hes also the only reason thieves are going to champs. hard carrying all year.
Is their a way to block this show but not breaking point entirely
Draz better than cel is the most faded take ive ever heard😂
Hydra took to long to learn the game to be mvp. He is the best player now but wasn’t even top 3 most the year
In the NBA they give the MVP to the best player of the team with the best record so by those standards SIMP would be the MVP
Jayson Tatum won the MVP this year?
trei trying to say Capsidal was ass is crazy
All optic players should be in D. Same as boston
Looking at KD as the primary thing to rank someone 🤢
If were talking the full year for mvp, hydra is the only one to have had a t12 placing this year out of scrap simp and hydra.
That's a valid knock on HyDra, but a T12 at the 1st event of the season should count less vs. winning the last event of the season, when it matters
All that matters in cod is championships, if nobody has two on the year, all the guys with 1 are on a level playing field. We didn't celebrate 2nds as a community until faze had a trophy case full of 2nd places
@BreakingPointGG oh agreed 100% but when they say the full year is what we're counting then that's it. Honestly i feel like simp has outplayed hydra anyways but just making a point for the rules they gave.
Especially egregious is the fact that we WANT to see dominance, we WANT to see FaZe be a dynasty. But it's just so far from reality with the way they've performed the past three seasons. Same way we WANT to see OpTic win.
Just on the rookie class comment. The best rookie class ever is bo4, simp abezy (first full year competing) cell dylan majormaniak kismet skyz jurnii and mettalz were gross at bo4 same with Brack. That year was disgusting.
Idk how it came to be a good list, but all I know after watching this is that Ace is a KDA andy. I know you can't talk eyetest for every player since that would like a 13 hour stream if you were doing rankings, but jesus...Do it for at least a couple of em.
Like you said, without looking at stats to refresh their memories, it would take 10+ hrs. Was supposed to be a short stream that turned into a 3+ hr show. Appreciate the thoughtful comment.
Shotzzy is S tier y’all tripping
He’s had 1 great stage on LAN and 1/2 more good stages where the other three players have been consistent year round. The guys will do another list after Champs. Thanks for the comment
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Bro you gotta edit out the spots where Trei is cutting out. Like you know it happened and it isn't difficult to edit those spots out.
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Skyz a C this year… not B
Priestahh on D is delusional lets be real
shotzzy was mvp in major 3, and he is A? na get him in S
he is not on the caliber on simp hydra or scrap stop it 😂 maybe last year
Boo the soundboard lmao
you guys are literally just ranking based off stats. forget the gameplay
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Ace my boy but the Simp downplaying has to stop immediately.
Simp is doing better than Hydra in 2 game modes, but because Hydra makes chaos look good, he thinks Simp won't make NYSL better. Actually, Simp would bring better structure and comms to them, and Hydra would make Faze more chaotic.
They're nearly identical in overall kd (1.14), and HP kd (1.14 vs 1.15). Simp has the better SnD KD, while hydra has the better control KD. What exactly are you attributing as "chaos"? Hydra has a larger impact on his teams success than simp does due to simp having multiple other MVP candidates on his team, while hydra has 3 A tier (at best) players alongside him. Hydra doesn't have the overall league KD leader on his roster by him, and no other NYSL members are in top5 for any other statistical categories. Hydra is carrying worse players to the same success as simp. As to could they swap places and both teams succeed, yes they could, but faze would improve because hydra is doing identical to simps with less support as is
@mkwsoxfan Skyz and Kis both have MVPs from events so stop lying. Also, Simp has a better HP KD with wayyyyy more hill time than Hydra(bottom 3 hill time), better SnD KD while being the primary bomb planter, Simp has almost 100 more zone captures in Control with having very close KD 1.11(Simp) 1.14(Hydra). So how is Hydra a bigger impact again????
@@babyboikash1028 season MVP candidates not event candidates (faze would have more event win MVPs if they won more events). WTF you mean simp has a "way better" HP kd its literally a difference of 0.01?!? Simps got more time cause he has the leagues biggest stat padder on main AR 😂. Hydra is more valuable to his team because without his input his team is significantly worse off, faze is still in the top 4 if you replace simp with any B tier or above smg. Hydras team needs his production to be successful, faze still has top5 statistical category leaders if simp doesn't exist. That's hydras impact. Simp has been great, hydra is pound for pound a more valuable piece to NY than simp is to faze 🤷♂️
I hope and wish one day we can see the roster of Abuzah, Ghosty, Gwinn, Lyynnz
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Ngl the optic hate is crazy😂your list sucks💀disrespecting shotzy, dashy, and Kenny bro. Prolly never touched ranked in yo life lol
How is abezy not S lol
3:17:28 anyone who disagrees with Simp being at the top of S is just in denial.
Ace ruins the show for me.
LENNY should be B Tier at best 🤡🤡🤡
Ace has horrible takes but at least I like his personality a lot. Such a good vibe.
Not the “you have a nice personality” compliment 🤣. Thanks for the comment
@@BreakingPointGG trust me I fuck with ace. He funny as hell
These guys are so cringe omfg!!!
Omfg!!!
If shottzy isn't top 3.....
Top 3 MVP candidates are Simp, HyDra, and Scrap
Personally i think shotzzy has a bigger impact for his team than simp. Maybe simp is more consistent but peak shotzzy in s2 online and major 3 Sunday was at least tied to peak simp. My point is that optic w/o Shotzzy would be far worse
@BreakingPointGG shottzy is equally as good as Hydra or simp.. yall will see what I mean during champs. Shottzy gunna carry that team to an9ther chip
yeah lets rank em based on KD, what a horrible basis to go off of. Not a very fair list.
Trei really thinks simp teammates aren’t that good compared to nysl or ultra.
This simp does obj argument is so dumb he can do obj because he also has elite slayers around him. Hydra and scrap don’t have the luxury to play average they Have to perform
They averaged higher than both of those teams, so not true