I would avoid Turkey at all costs! I worked as guest relations across a few hotels in Istanbul last summer and one of the apartment complexes was where a lot of patients from limb-lengthening were sent to. These were patients that had serious problems or were extremely unhappy, so the surgeries would move them away from the new patients so they couldn't try and discourage them or put them off from having the surgery. It was horrific seeing all these young guys and girls with big holes in their legs all experiencing severe problems and complications from the surgery. They were all deformed looking it was like they had been butchered. I imagine a lot of patients who go to cheaper countries will be ok but there were so many that were far from ok! I wouldn't risk paying these cheaper prices in unregulated countries when it comes to your legs. I also have been watching 'The Looksmaxing channel' where that guy went to one in Turkey last year and now he is permanently crippled and living in a nursing home, very sad to see. I'd say it would be worth doing your research first and maybe spending that extra money, even if it may take a few extra years to have this done. Personally, I would never just make my decision based on what I see on social media as we all know that it's easy to make something look completely different to the actual reality.
Sorry disturbing you but for this one I think your points is a bit unfair not all places in every turkey is bad same things like the ppl someone is kind, someone is bad for turkey I would suggest only two surgeon if you wanna go this producers. one is Dr yuksel yurttas and two Dr mustafa uysal they're expert and experience surgeon for over 15 yrs one of them DR yuksel over 25 yrs and they're team really care about you about any complications no matter what method precise 2 or even LON method.....
@@thebrightstar3634 Funnily enough, Dr Yuksel did the surgery on that Looksmaxxing guy I recently discovered on youtube. After watching this guys journey and what unfortunately happened to him would more than enough put me off going to him. I can only give information based on my experience of what I saw in the hotel (which I believe had patients from more than 1 clinic). It wasn't pleasant to say the least. Like I said, I'm sure many are ok after but there was too many that had serious complications from doing this. Remember that it is mainly done to help children with birth deformities, rather than for cosmetic reasons. Which is why most western countries like the UK and US are reluctant to do this for the wrong reasons due to the risk involved. I know people would feel better with reassurances that they will be fine and have no issues, but that isn't really the reality of going to cheap places. You get what you pay for.
@@TopG.41130 then if we stuck on the Turkey need to find others places that could better off to do some patient dr yuksel do is better I don't know what is the case for someone you talking about but I am sure the choice except dr yuksel is many choice out there but need to understand the cost first not all ppl could afford to do in US or UK some on this places is very expensive to do the things is that is going for really hard for ppl to do this and saving money taking too much time if it was very expensive or the same price atleast in US and UK otherswise need to wait for more a couple of yrs for the price is going down I even like you do on research watch the video on many patients many of them they say positive effect after the surgery on dr yuksel maybe dr mustafa uysal is better cheaper also comfortable places and clean too
my hope is that the precise stryde could return as soon as possible and hope LON method the first method could be down on 10K Euro or 5K Euro that could be easy for everyone to do and keep saving money without taking any longer time that's is my whole points Let's be easy here and hope we have a better choice, better price, better places for everyone to do in future that's it bro
Here the simple way to understand and take this way my advise is that if you want to focus your height yes " Height " just go ahead and don't think too much if you want to do it never say never you go through this process without any research, observation etc etc until you get confident yourself to do then just go why not right ?
This is all negative impact, complications etc etc whatever it is can be avoided if you research a good surgeon as well as the place at least from this side this can help in the future if you having of this issue talk and ask many questions as you can to your surgeon if you feel any doubts about this surgery
My surgeon said that it’s very important to listen to the body and feel your resources. If the nerve or other tissues hurt too much there should be a break taken for the tissues to heal before further distracting can resume
anyone who is doing cosmetic LLS should wait and see what happens with future research - there is evidence to suggest the presence of a stem cell niche in growth plates after they close. I have no doubt this may be an avenue for some interesting new approaches down the line.
Hey vic , gr8 video. 1)How long does it take to fully recover from the surgery? After which period of time can you tell that there won't be any more "recovery" than this? 2) about joint contracture and decreased range of motion, what is the rate of this complication?
Hey victor , make a video on the future advancement in height surgury and tell us if there will be other alternative available in this height market. Also show us statistics of this CLL like how may patients in the worlds undergoing this surgery each year because the the more the demand the more modifications and advanced the surgury will be in future Will the people who undergone this surgery able to pass the height criteria in defence services after recovery because here in India army has fucking obsolete minimum height requirements . Thankyou for your videos ❤ Edit - also want to ask if there is any relation to bone marrow with this surgery
Me at 157cm is below average in my country really sucks, bad and sad dude ofcos is bothering me a lot atleast I want to get 174cm is enough for me at that height I could not ask anymore and no matter what ppl say your still shorts nope nevermind I don't care I am happy if I can change this once for my entire life
Good ideas. That requires quite a bit more data than I have - all companies with said info won't share with me. And many patients are very anonymous. This industry is much harder to gather such info. But not impossible I suppose
Hey victor i have some questions 1.) If an "unlucky" patient had some complication like nerve damage, muscle damage, ballerina or something like that can he recover from it fully or it's over for him? 2.) If he can does he have to undergo another surgery which will cost more?
1) sometimes they can be recoverable complication but could just as easily become permanent if the right surgeon isn't looking after. 2) If he does then if PT and time doesn't resolve it, then yes surgery would be next option
@@Cyborg4Life even with the right surgeon wrong can happen so that patient can be recovered from such a horribly complication of any kind later on through PT or another surgery?
Hi Victor! Thank you for all the very helpful information. We really appreciate all the hard work you put in to help people out. You mentioned at the end of the video that patients with femur lengthening can walk normally in 7-9 months. If only 5cm of femurs are lengthened by Precise, how soon can we walk without assistance and walk normally? (considering that it will be done by one of the top surgeons you have previously mentioned). I was hoping 5months to walk normally. In addition, when can you start walking stairs normally?
Would you say Turkey has questionable surgeons? I am thinking about doing this procedure to reach a height of 182/183 however I am right now at 173, perhaps 6 cm femur and then 4 cm tibia a year after? Would this be conservative for being able to do heavy squats, clean and jerk, snatch etc? I like to think my muscles are pretty mobile. I would definitely take my rehab and stretching seriously so long as I can return to weightlifting.
Yeah I think that's very doable. I really believe if I go all in on this one day - 6cm femurs and 4cm tibias would be what I do (although my current tibia might be an issue idk) but if you get ROM back with no complications your prognosis will be very very good
Hey victor, do you think someone can mountaineer high mountains (8000m+) after limb lengthening. Saw someone on the limblengtheningforum or somewhere else doing that after LL
Yes you could hike mountains but I would say you'd have to ensure full recovery and be fit enough - strength & endurance. This all assuming no complications and full ROM - no overlengthening
but dont you think that athleticism is more important than just height? You basically trade this. I'm a skinny unfit 6.4 tall guy and still cant get laid. I'd rather be short and more muscular / athletic :D
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Victor, why did you remove some interviews with surgeons? They were very helpful.
Yea… exactly I couldn’t find some interviews
Yeah we'll be back with surgeon content again soon so no worries
@@Cyborg4Life Thank you for answering Victor. But respectfully, why did you remove them?
Yeah why did he remove it that is very suspicious of him.
@@hasbulla7266 Remove which one?
I would avoid Turkey at all costs! I worked as guest relations across a few hotels in Istanbul last summer and one of the apartment complexes was where a lot of patients from limb-lengthening were sent to. These were patients that had serious problems or were extremely unhappy, so the surgeries would move them away from the new patients so they couldn't try and discourage them or put them off from having the surgery. It was horrific seeing all these young guys and girls with big holes in their legs all experiencing severe problems and complications from the surgery. They were all deformed looking it was like they had been butchered. I imagine a lot of patients who go to cheaper countries will be ok but there were so many that were far from ok! I wouldn't risk paying these cheaper prices in unregulated countries when it comes to your legs. I also have been watching 'The Looksmaxing channel' where that guy went to one in Turkey last year and now he is permanently crippled and living in a nursing home, very sad to see. I'd say it would be worth doing your research first and maybe spending that extra money, even if it may take a few extra years to have this done. Personally, I would never just make my decision based on what I see on social media as we all know that it's easy to make something look completely different to the actual reality.
Sorry disturbing you but for this one I think your points is a bit unfair not all places in every turkey is bad same things like the ppl someone is kind, someone is bad for turkey I would suggest only two surgeon if you wanna go this producers. one is Dr yuksel yurttas and two Dr mustafa uysal they're expert and experience surgeon for over 15 yrs one of them DR yuksel over 25 yrs and they're team really care about you about any complications no matter what method precise 2 or even LON method.....
For turkey only this two I would trust and suggest to you so far on my research. Let alone in India they even get more worse Lol
@@thebrightstar3634 Funnily enough, Dr Yuksel did the surgery on that Looksmaxxing guy I recently discovered on youtube. After watching this guys journey and what unfortunately happened to him would more than enough put me off going to him. I can only give information based on my experience of what I saw in the hotel (which I believe had patients from more than 1 clinic). It wasn't pleasant to say the least. Like I said, I'm sure many are ok after but there was too many that had serious complications from doing this. Remember that it is mainly done to help children with birth deformities, rather than for cosmetic reasons. Which is why most western countries like the UK and US are reluctant to do this for the wrong reasons due to the risk involved. I know people would feel better with reassurances that they will be fine and have no issues, but that isn't really the reality of going to cheap places. You get what you pay for.
@@TopG.41130 then if we stuck on the Turkey need to find others places that could better off to do some patient dr yuksel do is better I don't know what is the case for someone you talking about but I am sure the choice except dr yuksel is many choice out there but need to understand the cost first not all ppl could afford to do in US or UK some on this places is very expensive to do the things is that is going for really hard for ppl to do this and saving money taking too much time if it was very expensive or the same price atleast in US and UK otherswise need to wait for more a couple of yrs for the price is going down
I even like you do on research watch the video on many patients many of them they say positive effect after the surgery on dr yuksel maybe dr mustafa uysal is better cheaper also comfortable places and clean too
my hope is that the precise stryde could return as soon as possible and hope LON method the first method could be down on 10K Euro or 5K Euro that could be easy for everyone to do and keep saving money without taking any longer time that's is my whole points
Let's be easy here and hope we have a better choice, better price, better places for everyone to do in future that's it bro
I just got frames installed on both of my tibias yesterday. Anticipating a long uneasy journey
Wish you the best
Update?
Here the simple way to understand and take this way my advise is that if you want to focus your height yes " Height " just go ahead and don't think too much if you want to do it never say never you go through this process without any research, observation etc etc until you get confident yourself to do then just go why not right ?
This video has helped me make my decision. Thank you
This is all negative impact, complications etc etc whatever it is can be avoided if you research a good surgeon as well as the place at least from this side this can help in the future if you having of this issue talk and ask many questions as you can to your surgeon if you feel any doubts about this surgery
I personally will do it no matter how long and how strong the challenge is if you ask me " just do it "
@@thebrightstar3634 Just be careful
Hey Vic, has anyone ever become disabled based on what you've heard? My biggest fear is complications due to damage to muscles or nerves.
Yeah complications there have been patients for sure
@@Cyborg4Lifeso high risky??
My surgeon said that it’s very important to listen to the body and feel your resources. If the nerve or other tissues hurt too much there should be a break taken for the tissues to heal before further distracting can resume
anyone who is doing cosmetic LLS should wait and see what happens with future research - there is evidence to suggest the presence of a stem cell niche in growth plates after they close. I have no doubt this may be an avenue for some interesting new approaches down the line.
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Where did you read about this. A new such system will take decades to develop, so if you have 20 years on your hands, maybe can wait😊
You are right I have also read about this somewhere
It would be nice if you make a video about success rate and complication rate
I have to get real data which no one will provide me. All my statistics are based on rough info I gathered or my own personal contact info
Hey vic , gr8 video.
1)How long does it take to fully recover from the surgery? After which period of time can you tell that there won't be any more "recovery" than this?
2) about joint contracture and decreased range of motion, what is the rate of this complication?
1) about a year if you want to get back - 7-9 months to walk though
2) low if you have a good surgeon and do lots of stretching
Also. Has anyone reading this lengthened their femurs 8cm/9cm?? If so, are you satisfied with the preparation? Incomparscent to tibia??
Hey victor , make a video on the future advancement in height surgury and tell us if there will be other alternative available in this height market.
Also show us statistics of this CLL like how may patients in the worlds undergoing this surgery each year because the the more the demand the more modifications and advanced the surgury will be in future
Will the people who undergone this surgery able to pass the height criteria in defence services after recovery because here in India army has fucking obsolete minimum height requirements .
Thankyou for your videos ❤
Edit - also want to ask if there is any relation to bone marrow
with this surgery
Yeah man agree with you
Me at 157cm is below average in my country really sucks, bad and sad dude ofcos is bothering me a lot atleast I want to get 174cm is enough for me at that height I could not ask anymore and no matter what ppl say your still shorts nope nevermind I don't care I am happy if I can change this once for my entire life
Good ideas. That requires quite a bit more data than I have - all companies with said info won't share with me. And many patients are very anonymous. This industry is much harder to gather such info. But not impossible I suppose
174 cm here. Not sure to do 9cm on femur and see how it feels. Or just do quadiatural 8cm Femur and 5cm tibia all in one go
I'm 5'5" and thought about this(not seriously) after watching Gattaca. Then i realized I'm kinda dope
What about effects on athletic performance, does that tend to fully recover?
It can be affected temporarily
Hey victor i have some questions
1.) If an "unlucky" patient had some complication like nerve damage, muscle damage, ballerina or something like that can he recover from it fully or it's over for him?
2.) If he can does he have to undergo another surgery which will cost more?
1) sometimes they can be recoverable complication but could just as easily become permanent if the right surgeon isn't looking after.
2) If he does then if PT and time doesn't resolve it, then yes surgery would be next option
@@Cyborg4Life even with the right surgeon wrong can happen so that patient can be recovered from such a horribly complication of any kind later on through PT or another surgery?
@@arrashsengupta2571good question 👍🏻
Hi Victor!
Thank you for all the very helpful information. We really appreciate all the hard work you put in to help people out.
You mentioned at the end of the video that patients with femur lengthening can walk normally in 7-9 months. If only 5cm of femurs are lengthened by Precise, how soon can we walk without assistance and walk normally? (considering that it will be done by one of the top surgeons you have previously mentioned). I was hoping 5months to walk normally.
In addition, when can you start walking stairs normally?
Thanks - yeah I've seen patients who did 5cm with no issues have walked normally in 5months
How to avoid the knee pain after the surgery??
Knee pain is normal, it often goes away. I had the same problem.
, are patients prone to knee arthritis later in life...?
Hey Victory, would you recommend Dr Assyag for 8 cm femurs? If not, who else would you recommend in Baltimore?
Is 4.5-5 cm low targer. I know i can go higher, but i want results and recovery quickly. With less complications
Baki fans take Jack Hanma cosplay way too seriously.
Would you say Turkey has questionable surgeons? I am thinking about doing this procedure to reach a height of 182/183 however I am right now at 173, perhaps 6 cm femur and then 4 cm tibia a year after? Would this be conservative for being able to do heavy squats, clean and jerk, snatch etc? I like to think my muscles are pretty mobile. I would definitely take my rehab and stretching seriously so long as I can return to weightlifting.
That's realistic
Yeah I think that's very doable. I really believe if I go all in on this one day - 6cm femurs and 4cm tibias would be what I do (although my current tibia might be an issue idk) but if you get ROM back with no complications your prognosis will be very very good
@@Cyborg4LifeDo complications typically arise when overlengthening? Like for example Equinus deformity.
wouldnt that depend on your current tibia and femur length?
What's the price like?
Oh and concerning proportions my wingspan is 180 cm and my LBR is about 0.45 (30” inseam).
Nice
I did regret it since taking me too much time.
Once you're done you won't
@@gj9157 no I lost money, my girlfriend, and affecting my job performance
It's a long process but many patients say it's well worth it
@@edenhazard7813how long did it took u to recover?
Any updates @@edenhazard7813
Im happy so far even though im only at 1cm lol
How's it going any knee bending problems? Also, what's your goal and did you do femur or tibia
Fémur or tibia and where and price 😮 pls
@hazelgod3848 Not anymore, I can bend just fine. My goal is 8cm(169-177cm) or close to 5'10.
@@alexfun4275 Precise femur in Greece for 42k Euros.
@@gj9157 thx bro , btw where are you from bro? And why you chose greece? Good luck!!!
Hey victor, do you think someone can mountaineer high mountains (8000m+) after limb lengthening. Saw someone on the limblengtheningforum or somewhere else doing that after LL
Yes you could hike mountains but I would say you'd have to ensure full recovery and be fit enough - strength & endurance. This all assuming no complications and full ROM - no overlengthening
@@Cyborg4Lifeis it too most only recover 80 percent of their athletic performance?
Do you have an experienced surgeon list for the USA?
Yeah and it'll slowly be growing
but dont you think that athleticism is more important than just height? You basically trade this. I'm a skinny unfit 6.4 tall guy
and still cant get laid. I'd rather be short and more muscular / athletic :D
Is there anything like muscle lengthNing surgery !
it lengthens along with bone so no need
Sir please help can i do limb lengthening surgery in india, will it be worth it.
I really need it.
Hi there - I have a new video with an Indian Surgeon in Mumbai
If i did 6cm femur, is there any complication may happened ? Or better divided by 3cm tibia and 3 cm femur, pls advise
That's what I would do 6cm femur for myself. I wouldn't divide it for that amount. Less surgery is best unless you want more
Hell I am confused between Canada and USA to do the surgery
Turkey
I'm thinking south korea
Ive seen terrible cases from turkey, if you really want to do it, choose a safe place although is quite expensive. Bbeter safe than sorry
@@sung72763 My Dr. had some botched patients from Turkey. It happens more often than it should be.
Never do it in turkey if u wanna live life