Unlocked with John Curtice: All Labour have to do on the economy is say "Liz Truss"

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  • Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
  • Join UKICE Director Professor Anand Menon for a special conversation with the “doyen of British elections”, Sir John Curtice.
    Sir John needs little introduction to followers of British politics, as one of the UK’s best-known political scientists and the man who guides the nation through election nights for the BBC. Recently he calculated that on current polling, the Labour Party have a 99% chance of forming the next government.
    With the election looming, join us for a very special audience with Sir John as we look ahead to the vote. He will reflect on historic election shocks such as 1992, through to the changes of government in 1997 and 2010. He will also offer an insight into what it is like to crunch the numbers on polling day while the nation awaits the exit poll.
    This is a rare opportunity to hear from the man behind the numbers and promises to be a hotly anticipated event.

Комментарии • 183

  • @pulchralutetia
    @pulchralutetia Месяц назад +30

    John Curtice is an absolute legend.

  • @blocktone8962
    @blocktone8962 Месяц назад +28

    great listening to two incredibly smart people.

    • @eddieharris6004
      @eddieharris6004 Месяц назад +1

      Well the bald headed one at least.....

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Месяц назад

      Makes a change from Prime Minister Question Time, where the tories are lacking in grey cells.

    • @blocktone8962
      @blocktone8962 Месяц назад +3

      @@AntiAntiSepticUK smarter than you will ever be

  • @Gary-le7dz
    @Gary-le7dz Месяц назад +21

    Just say 14 years

  • @GazC-qt6lh
    @GazC-qt6lh Месяц назад +22

    Im sick of all this Liz Truss and Trussenomics etc. They were Tory policies!!! She didn't do it all on her own ffs which is what they kind of imply. The Tory membership voting on her manifesto that had all the cuckoo economics in it. The daily mails headline at the time before it all went south was 'at last a tory buget'. No they all try and distance themselves from it, it was Tory ideological economics.

    • @andrewfanning3280
      @andrewfanning3280 Месяц назад +6

      Absolutely right word for word. Right wing Tory ideology.

    • @stephensmith799
      @stephensmith799 Месяц назад +3

      Agreed. Tufton Street patsies.

    • @bonariablackie4047
      @bonariablackie4047 Месяц назад

      Truss wouldn't have happened without Johnson. Johnson wouldn't have happened if he hadn't lied through his teeth about Brexit. And that wouldn't have happened, and allowed Johnson, if May hadn't junked Brexit when she had the chance. And the seeds of Maybot, Endless liar, and the insanity of Lettuce Liz, would never have happened if the bastard Cameron hadn't been so thick as to call a referendum without even a modicum of safety to prevent a 4% majority screwing the country permanently. It all comes back to Cameron and his cruel and unecessary austerity as well as his abject idiocy.

    • @davidrichardson5482
      @davidrichardson5482 Месяц назад

      Ie ist was the banks

    • @stephensmith799
      @stephensmith799 Месяц назад

      @@davidrichardson5482 Correct. Tory Deregulation smashed our economy and killed 72 people in a towering inferno.

  • @Martin-jk6pc
    @Martin-jk6pc Месяц назад +23

    Labour needs to sit still, do nothing and wait.

    • @PollieBrooon-cz5yg
      @PollieBrooon-cz5yg Месяц назад

      That's right....and not talk about 2010, Brown boom and bust, bankrupt UK...AND NO MONEY LEFT!

    • @bonariablackie4047
      @bonariablackie4047 Месяц назад +8

      When your enemy is making endless mistakes, just let them get on with it. The Tories will be reduced to nothing, and Labour will have the majority to get things done. I doubt the Tories will even be the opposition.

    • @jonm7272
      @jonm7272 Месяц назад +4

      No, Labour needs to make the most of an open goal and actually come up with some radical changes to the current sh**show politics we're all currently saddled with. Timidity is turning off the electorate.

    • @kevinwillis6707
      @kevinwillis6707 Месяц назад

      They could certainly indo a few things the tories did, but the reality is the country is really, really deep in a huge financial hole and it's gonna be at least 2 terms before any progress is seen in the real world, I'm not confident starmers up to the job of being radical@@jonm7272

    • @aeris2001
      @aeris2001 Месяц назад +1

      if an enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt them

  • @bodricthered
    @bodricthered Месяц назад +4

    Got to love the delicate little pause on the first question as the interviewer tries to get the claim out that this is a government we've got right now, I can't tell if he wants to laugh or cry but he really doesn't want to frame them as anything within spitting distance of a government.

  • @paultaylor7082
    @paultaylor7082 Месяц назад +2

    Nice to have someone other than a politician talking about politics, someone without an axe to grind. That way, the discussion ends up being in terms of the reality, not the fantasy.

  • @davidrichardson5482
    @davidrichardson5482 Месяц назад +2

    The majority of the public react however the media tells them to.

  • @monged4life442
    @monged4life442 Месяц назад +2

    Those windows notification noises over your video confused the hell out of me.

  • @sol2746
    @sol2746 Месяц назад +1

    LIZ TRUSS👏👏👏LIZ TRUSS👏👏👏LIZ TRUSS👏👏👏.

  • @johncopeland3826
    @johncopeland3826 Месяц назад +5

    I have a lot of time for both gentlemen in the video . Im a bit concerned Sir John Curtice is looking a bit thin and tired ? I hope you are well sir , we need your expertise and sincere intelligence in this country at present and beyond . Have a nice long Summer vacation ,in the sunshine ... you've earned it !

    • @mbee1776
      @mbee1776 Месяц назад

      Brilliant summary of the Uk citizens, seeing he’s represents the public

    • @bren106
      @bren106 Месяц назад +1

      He's looked thin and tired for the last 30 years, If I'd been in a coma since the early 90s I'd wake up and instantly recognise him.

  • @mattbrownartwork
    @mattbrownartwork Месяц назад +1

    Appreciate you sharing but sound seems off with external noise, might be worth looking into some izotope audio solutions, sound is critical in media production 👍

  • @roysimmons3549
    @roysimmons3549 Месяц назад

    Middx drawing with Glos was due to Brexit. It rained.

  • @alanhowe7659
    @alanhowe7659 Месяц назад

    And it'd be true!!!!

  • @onenote6619
    @onenote6619 Месяц назад

    Yes. But that is a bar you might have difficulty tripping over. I would hope they can do better. Preferably a lot better. Fingers crossed.

  • @safirahmed
    @safirahmed Месяц назад

    About 8 million people are not registered to vote in the next general election and many who are registered may still not have valid Photo ID or either a free voter authority certificate or free anonymous electors document with which to be able to vote.

    • @stephensmith799
      @stephensmith799 Месяц назад

      Gerrymandering is the Nasty Party’s last hope.

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 Месяц назад +1

      Well said. At the last General Election in 2019, it was also estimated that around 6 million were unable to vote in the UK, as they hadn't registered to do so. That equated to around 14%, or almost 1 in 7 of the total electorate of 46 million.

    • @safirahmed
      @safirahmed Месяц назад

      @@paultaylor7082 Thanks. The 2016 EU referendum is another example of the failure of the electoral system in the UK.
      The 2016 EU referendum had over 12.9 million people who did not or could not vote, this compared to a little over 17.4 million votes for Brexit and a little over 16.1 million against Brexit with 52% of votes cast for Brexit and 48% of votes cast against Brexit with 72.2% turnout.
      Another referendum on EU membership is necessary as having an approximate third of the electorate in favour, a third against and a third not voting is not a decisive result in any election.

  • @johnnotrealname8168
    @johnnotrealname8168 Месяц назад

    The problem with that is Rishi Sunak is not her. He literally was the guy who opposed her and all his Toffyness can be waved away with he is the guy who supported you through the pandemic.

    • @bonariablackie4047
      @bonariablackie4047 Месяц назад

      Millions of self employed people were left with nothing because of Sunak. And I would remind you that Sunak as Chancellor, quietly wrote off 6 BILLION pounds of fraud, thanks to his paying out to people who lied about being a business. You can add that 6 billion to the Tory debt mountain. Because you don't get to blame Labour. It would take many many years to even make a dent in the Tories profligacy of the last 14 years. Austerity for little people, no tax for billionaires.

  • @user-bo8ux3nu9i
    @user-bo8ux3nu9i Месяц назад +1

    cant stand the man vote curtis vote labour

  • @GarethMachin-rb2sg
    @GarethMachin-rb2sg Месяц назад +1

    Johnson immoral
    Truss economic illiterate
    Sunak too small

  • @mariusb5150
    @mariusb5150 Месяц назад

    Want I fail to understand is why anyone would vote conservative when their trackrecord over the last 13 years simply is frightingly bad, except when you are well to do. Ask yourself: are you better of now? The answer for the majority, either economically, socially or culturally is a simpe and straightforward: NO.

  • @ronstriebig2749
    @ronstriebig2749 Месяц назад

    He could leave for usa

  • @scottredding7357
    @scottredding7357 Месяц назад

    Distancing from Truss, I get. Distancing from Boris, he still has a remarkable amount of appeal among Tory 2019 voters.

    • @ascott6328
      @ascott6328 Месяц назад

      a terrible indictment of tory voters, boris is an evil, corrupt and hideous person

  • @user-wn3cm6jf8e
    @user-wn3cm6jf8e Месяц назад +1

    Where do they get these fossils from?

  • @ronstriebig2749
    @ronstriebig2749 Месяц назад +4

    Goodbye to evil capitalism

    • @tatata1543
      @tatata1543 Месяц назад +1

      It’s not going anywhere.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 Месяц назад

      You mean the Labour party who rejected socialism?

  • @davidpnewton
    @davidpnewton Месяц назад +1

    Curtice claims that people have not reacted to the increasing size of the state by saying that the tax burden must come down. He may be right. If he is then the country is in for a world of hurt and things will get a lot worse than they are now.
    Simply put we are at the point where any further attempts to substantially increase spending will critically damage the economy. We are already suffering from the albatross of the debt interest and more spending will just make that worse. That a good number of people are not aware of that frankly shows how out of touch they are with economic and fiscal reality. We already cannot afford our current level of government spending. Drastic cuts are necessary to get things remotely back near an even keel. Eventually those cuts will happen. The question is how much damage to the economy and society and living standards will occur before people take their heads out of the sand?

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 Месяц назад

      Exactly, fiscal rectitude is important but people just want money. It is all incentives.

    • @paulpenfold2352
      @paulpenfold2352 Месяц назад

      I can't believe no-one's given this a thumbs up. After five years of necessary austerity to get the debt down, all that hard work was reversed for the sake of an illness the vast majority of people survived, although I think much of the fiscal overreaction was revenge for austerity by a lockdown-left keen to blame brexit for any fallout. Reading what Rachel Reeves says about borrowing only to invest and seeing how keen they were to follow the example of their betters abroad, I reckon Rachel Reeves is looking to France as the ultimate limit on public borrowing. They just enjoy spending money that isn't theirs too much. Although the Tories are the same now, which is a travesty. It's like an end of days spending frenzy. Who needs to be patriotic with the nation's wealth when you can just bugger off.

    • @TheShortStory
      @TheShortStory Месяц назад

      The problem isn’t so much the level of government spending, although that shouldn’t rise much from here. The problem is that so much of what’s spent ends up in private companies, and is not funding actual services. If the NHS for example started rolling back private outsourcing and spent a bigger share of its money in-house, provision of health care would get a bigger bang for the buck. That would result in lower waiting times and better health which in turn would benefit the economy. That’s probably the lowest hanging fruit. The government needs to spend the money smartly. But austerity on its own would deal a mortal blow to an already collapsing society.

    • @davidpnewton
      @davidpnewton Месяц назад

      @@TheShortStory and you've demonstrated that you're part of the problem.
      There is NOTHING wrong with spending ending up in the hands of private companies if those private companies are performing the required task efficiently, effectively and competently.
      As for the NHS? It, itself is the biggest problem with health. It is sclerotic, clumsy, inefficient and incompetent. That is due to its structure. It has no proper competition. Therefore there is no proper incentive for improvement of its services. The "solution" up to now has simply been to throw more money at it, which simply causes that money to be further wasted. Fundamental structural reform is required to sort things out. The American system is just as bad as the UK system, but in different ways. Neither are appropriate structures for healthcare in a modern society.
      A system with social insurance usable with multiple providers is much better than either. It provides competition within the system and thus an incentive to improve. It also doesn't mean the poor lose out on medical care.
      As for overall expenditure. It will be cut. No two ways about it. We will eventually have to live within our means. How long we delay those cuts determines how savage they will have to be.

    • @TheShortStory
      @TheShortStory Месяц назад

      @@davidpnewton 🤷‍♂️

  • @amazoniaamazonia7225
    @amazoniaamazonia7225 Месяц назад +4

    Starmer should distance himself from puppet master Blair.

  • @rchatte100
    @rchatte100 Месяц назад +4

    He said similar last pre-election too. He was 100% wrong.

    • @marksandsmith6778
      @marksandsmith6778 Месяц назад +2

      He's right this time.
      Tories may not survive as a party

    • @bonariablackie4047
      @bonariablackie4047 Месяц назад +1

      No. In 2019 he said the Tories would get a landslide, because of leaver belliever twats, and because nobody trusted Jeremy Corbyn. Perhaps you would like to take a look at what he said prior to the 2019 General Election.

    • @PollieBrooon-cz5yg
      @PollieBrooon-cz5yg Месяц назад +1

      Egg on his silly face....again.

    • @gavinhughes7136
      @gavinhughes7136 Месяц назад +3

      Things are very different from 2019……

    • @bonariablackie4047
      @bonariablackie4047 Месяц назад

      @@gavinhughes7136 Well, you can thank leaver believers for Brexit that has ruined the economy, and you can thank leavers for giving the Tories an 80 seat majority to destroy the UK and waste every penny of taxpayers money. They are entirely responsible. And they will have to take full responsibility for their abject stupiidity on two separate occasions, years apart.

  • @SI-vb7hd
    @SI-vb7hd Месяц назад +8

    He is not wrong. Labour will do very little thats different.

    • @eddieharris6004
      @eddieharris6004 Месяц назад +3

      And thats the most depressing part....

    • @mbee1776
      @mbee1776 Месяц назад +8

      Are you saying you’re happy with how it’s been handled the past decade? Or are you defending people that don’t care about you?

    • @lythalls
      @lythalls Месяц назад +6

      Got a reliable source for that claim ?

    • @stuplant6693
      @stuplant6693 Месяц назад

      Labour will do things, they need to patiently wait until they are in office as the press, the Muppets who voted Tory and client journalism all against them. Labour playing a slow boil waiting game. Don't say anything or interrupt your enemy when they making mistakes etc. I did however think they should of shown more backbone over the national green energy company which the Tories and press jumped on. Starmer should of said shut up, it's a good idea and the people love it.

    • @systemofapown
      @systemofapown Месяц назад +6

      That's quite demonstrably wrong, given that Labour's policy platform is distinctly different from the Tories across a broad spectrum of issues. You just clearly haven't researched it.

  • @gavinbissell8847
    @gavinbissell8847 Месяц назад

    The problem is labour went along with it but what they wanted was 10x worse.

  • @Sameoldfitup
    @Sameoldfitup Месяц назад +1

    Horrible old lefty 😅

  • @Paul_C
    @Paul_C Месяц назад

    Where are your up and coming politicians? All I see is rehashing old points. And there is no rehashing what was a failing on both side of the chamber. There is surprisingly little difference between to Conservative and Labour viewpoints.

  • @stewartmcintosh1073
    @stewartmcintosh1073 Месяц назад

    I do not understand why anyone wants to listen to him was he not got lying on a speeding fine I'm his ex-wife took this rap for it

  • @henrycastle1
    @henrycastle1 Месяц назад +3

    ❤ Rid the United Kingdom of the Divisive Nationalist E.U Welsh and Scottish Parliaments
    The U.K parliament has been enough since Oliver Cromwell
    Sell them too to benefit of Local Inhabitants and or New Comers, this is in the remit of the one in position of First Lord Of The Treasury
    Out

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr Месяц назад +1

      "'Divisive Nationalist E.U Welsh and Scottish Parliaments"
      No such thing as EU parliaments in the UK.

  • @andreascassinides2660
    @andreascassinides2660 Месяц назад +3

    Fortunately Brexit will remain firmly in place for the rest of the century as people will not want to jeopardise the future of Britain freedom and independence by making the mistake of rejoining the European Union.

    • @systemofapown
      @systemofapown Месяц назад +6

      Excellent satire. Bravo.

    • @midlandgeordie
      @midlandgeordie Месяц назад

      No chance

    • @owencarlstrand1945
      @owencarlstrand1945 Месяц назад +2

      There’s none so blind as will not look.

    • @FTFLCY
      @FTFLCY Месяц назад

      Poor effort.

    • @sambaliwingo
      @sambaliwingo Месяц назад

      Are you saying that the Netherlands aren't a free and independent country scumbag?

  • @PollieBrooon-cz5yg
    @PollieBrooon-cz5yg Месяц назад

    And the Conservatives will reply....''Gordon Robber Brown BOOM and BUST!''

    • @PollieBrooon-cz5yg
      @PollieBrooon-cz5yg Месяц назад

      AND ''NO MONEY LEFT!''....2010.

    • @TheAztecGamer123
      @TheAztecGamer123 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@PollieBrooon-cz5yg
      To which just say BREXIT, 14 years, oh wait nvm I just remembered the people of this country have short term memory when tories make mistakes and long term memory when labour has to face actual problems like a global worldwide economic crash

    • @John_Lyle
      @John_Lyle Месяц назад

      The money Brown spent reduced NHS waiting lists, Boris spent all the money on dodgy PPE contracts, tens of billions lost to fraud, and of course the gold wallpaper in Number Ten. Then there was the £30Bn losses courtesy of Liz Truss and Kamikwazi Kwarteng's "mini budget". And where was Rishi while all this was going on? up to his eyes in the trough grabbing as much as he could

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 Месяц назад

      I always maintained, and still do so, that Brown was technically correct when he claimed he'd ended Boom and Bust. We had the Boom of 1997 to 2007, than the Bust of 2007 onwards, as banks around the globe had to be rescued from going under. If we've had a Boom since 2007 in the UK, I, along with millions of others, must have missed it.

    • @BCJ1985
      @BCJ1985 Месяц назад

      You're a tard.

  • @TheWizardBen
    @TheWizardBen Месяц назад +4

    John Curtice is possibly one of the worst political scientists/commentators of all time. Fortnite youtubers genuinely would have better insight.

  • @andybrice2711
    @andybrice2711 Месяц назад +3

    I think Liz Truss' ideas were terrible. But I find it very difficult to believe that she caused that much damage with a budget which was never even implemented. I suspect she's being used as a convenient scapegoat for broader economic failures by the government, industry, and financial institutions.

    • @PollieBrooon-cz5yg
      @PollieBrooon-cz5yg Месяц назад +1

      Cut taxes to boost growth....it's happening now...she was so right.

    • @johnhoulihan4000
      @johnhoulihan4000 Месяц назад +3

      The Conservatives called it a fiscal event, not a budget. Doing this meant they did not have to get the OBR to give its view.
      Truss caused immense damage not least 30billion of public debt fixing the mess.
      While there are other factors, as you say, in leaving the economy so weak. You are being very generous to Truss.

    • @FTFLCY
      @FTFLCY Месяц назад +3

      It didn't need to be implemented. The markets took frit the second it was announced, and the damage was done. Cost me, personally, a lot of hard earned money.

    • @andybrice2711
      @andybrice2711 Месяц назад +1

      @@PollieBrooon-cz5yg I'm not sure she was right, especially to do it so suddenly and drastically, at the exact time when the Bank of England was also trying to reverse quantitative easing. When many people had warned her against it.
      Though I also don't think she was solely to blame. And I'm not convinced current economic problems can be blamed on her.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 Месяц назад

      @@FTFLCY You mean that the socialists support the market? @~?£ that is refreshing.

  • @marcmcdonald9930
    @marcmcdonald9930 Месяц назад +2

    I wont vote Conservative purely because of high tax big state. I want low tax low state. Nhs is just a money pit.

    • @ally11488
      @ally11488 Месяц назад +2

      You're condemning millions of people to death through illness, as well as poverty.

    • @marcmcdonald9930
      @marcmcdonald9930 Месяц назад +1

      @ally11488 rubbish. Socialism works until run run out of other people's money. Slash benefits. Raise pensions for those that actually put in to the system. The leaches well they can learn to get a job like the rest of us

    • @ally11488
      @ally11488 Месяц назад +1

      @@marcmcdonald9930 That's a brain dead way of explaining economics. Can you explain why we have had record low unemployment, anemic growth and millionaires and billionaires getting richer?

    • @ally11488
      @ally11488 Месяц назад +2

      @@marcmcdonald9930 You do realise that making it more expensive to have kids through low pay and expensive child care absolutely guts your economy as the population ages?

    • @marcmcdonald9930
      @marcmcdonald9930 Месяц назад

      @ally11488 yeah. Benifts that are too high causing people to prefer to live off the state. Taxes too high restricting investment. Immigration causing low wages. Don't hate the millionaires.... think how to become 1

  • @carolramsey6287
    @carolramsey6287 Месяц назад +6

    Sunak as Chsncellor wrecked he economy but rampant immigration and diversity are what most voters hate. His failure to stop immigration will be his ruin. That Labour will only make it worse is ironic.

    • @storm21410
      @storm21410 Месяц назад +1

      Right, because 'stopping immigration' is what public services need...

    • @petersmith9530
      @petersmith9530 Месяц назад +2

      Absolute rubbish.We're all a little bit more stupid for having read your comment

    • @barryboom717
      @barryboom717 Месяц назад +17

      Professor Curtis isn't some random chap down the pub with misguided opinions and a degree from the university of Google, he is a well respected expert on polling and public opinion. Do you not think he would have said exactly what you said if it were true?

    • @carolramsey6287
      @carolramsey6287 Месяц назад +1

      @@barryboom717 No!

    • @user-qd2hl9lu3h
      @user-qd2hl9lu3h Месяц назад +12

      How do you know that Labour will make it worse? Because the Daily Mail and GB News told you they will?

  • @thetruthful8388
    @thetruthful8388 Месяц назад

    Boris is great👍

    • @kevinjackson6387
      @kevinjackson6387 Месяц назад +6

      At lying

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr Месяц назад

      @@kevinjackson6387 He's not even great at that. He's pathetically obvious - after many decades of hard practice..

  • @andrewoliver5222
    @andrewoliver5222 Месяц назад +1

    VOTE UK REFORM NIGEL FARAGE HE LOVES THE ENGLISHMAN AND CHRISTIANS 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @mcjs8640
      @mcjs8640 Месяц назад +1

      So if you are not an English MAN and not a Christian? Apparently those people don't matter.
      Farage is a nasty, xenophobic, misogynistic, small minded, selfish opportunist. As are many of those who like him and his, 'policies.'

    • @DazzaS83
      @DazzaS83 Месяц назад

      Reform UK= racists

    • @John_Lyle
      @John_Lyle Месяц назад

      Nigel Farage is the son of a City of London stockbroker who was privately educated before being given a job in the city through family connections. He is a liar and a grifter who as a member of the European Parliament dd nothing to benefit his constituents. It is ironic that having called out the former Prime Minister of Luxembourg for his role in the tax avoidance schemes Farage was among those desperate to get britain out of the EU before the Anti Tax Avoidance Directive came into effect.

    • @mickcorbett6724
      @mickcorbett6724 Месяц назад

      The last bunch of idiots anyone should vote for. Reform UK. 😊

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr Месяц назад +3

      The OP is surely NOT English with weird English like that!