Those Shoulder Pads are probably Trash too!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Stop letting people give you this idea that a set of shoulder pads is a set of shoulder pads! Some pads are just Trash. And, your athlete is never going to reach their full potential or enjoy the game as much as they should until we start taking shoulder pads seriously.
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I had those bad shoulder pads and I played really well so it’s personal preference
Yaboi Jayson If you ever get a chance to play in a set of RIPT or XTECH, your personal preferences will change 😂.
All that down hill stuff is out the window if you wanna hit you hit xtech is just a lower profile shoulder pad I play semi pro and Riddell is better fit so it the preference of the player and the heart 💯
MXXD PHUXXY Pads like XTECH and RIPT are WAY more than just lower profile. And, yeah, if your “preference” is to wear a cardboard vest to stop bullets, because you got “heart”, go right ahead 😂. But, the fact remains... better pads WILL reduce the force of impact to the body thus providing kids that may not have your “heart” the confidence to finally start eating, as well as, allowing even the guys with heart to play harder, feel less, reduce the risk of injury, last longer, and take the game they love as far as possible.
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@@workassertrepeat Which pads are better RIPT or XTECH. Which one will give you the best range of motion. Asking for my son. He is in high school
You’re right coach. I had a bunch of team issues pads. We were required to hit hard to start. Yeah I was always scared to break my shoulder. Had to always use the skeleton underneath
Man I wish I had good shoulder pads when I was playing little league probably would not have hurt my shoulder so much i didn’t care at the time of the pads were good or not I was trying to kill everyone I hit
goin into my sophomore year of hs and i’ve been looking at zenith shoulder pads, either the velocity or element hybrid, any experience with those?
I have a few athletes who wear the ELEMENT pads. And so far, I haven’t seen or heard of them having ANY issues. Keep in mind, none of them are in HS yet, so I can’t account for the increase in player size, game speed, and thus, increased force of impact to the body. As far as the Velocity’s go... I found 2 big issues with the v1. I know the v1 is not the new v2, but, I don’t know how you fix the issues with the v1 by lowering the profile and decreasing weight in the v2.
V1 issues: 1. Epaulettes would dig into your arm and leave bruises depending on the angle of contact. 2. Padding system throughout the shoulder would bottom out and send too much energy into the shoulder on solid contact, resulting in stingers and excessive shoulder pain.
Now, some would say “stingers” and such are just a part of the game. However, having worn, as well as, tested on others, shoulder pads that do not cause ANY of these issues, I would argue that, they are not “just a part of the game” and, in fact, are due to the v1 being an inferior shoulder pad.
And again, not sure how they improved on v1 issues by making the v2 lighter and lower profile. Because, a lower profile requires subtraction. And typically, that subtraction requires new technology to perform as good, if not better than previous versions. As far as lighter, there are only 2 ways to do it... compromise the integrity of something or utilize newer technology that compromises nothing (Think XTECH, TAG RIPT... lots of tech and innovation in those pads to create the desired profile/ weight and still perform). But, that level of innovation and performance is rarely achieved without a heftier price tag. That’s why those pads run $500-$600.
Problem is, Xenith doesn’t mention using any new tech, new energy absorption system, padding, and don’t even show you a picture of the inside of the pads (looking for some type of clavicle build up system, at least).
So, if it’s between the Element Hybrid and Velocity 2, I would stick to the Element. Then, I would go out there, play behind my pads, and smash through every defender or knock the💩outta every offensive player moving to ensure your pads can handle the caliber of work you put in‼️
Now, no set of pads is going to prevent Injury 100%, but routine contact should not result in pain or discomfort. That is a sign that the pads aren’t doing their job. If that’s the case, you may want to step away from Xenith until they start implementing some of that helmet technology into their pads. Because, there are definitely better pads currently on the market.
@@workassertrepeat got it. thank you!
The 50 dolar shoulder pad costs around 400 dolars where I live, and the XTECH ones don't even exist here, so yeah, we gotta make do with wathever we got lol
Hello sir, I am thinking of getting an XTECH pad and I play DT, DE depend on the team condition. I am like 225 pounds, 6'0. Do you think it is actually a good idea if I decide to get them? what arch, cups, equalets do I have to pick? or do you have any other recommendations?
There are definitely less expensive options. Like Riddell… Power SPK, Custom Power, or Custom Power Extreme. In my opinion XTECH currently just has the best pad available in terms of technology, materials, customization, and protective ability.
I think getting them is a great idea! But, it all comes down to what you can/ want to afford. If you can’t or don’t want to spend that much money on a set of pads, I would go with a Riddell Power SPK or some custom power variant. The customs get pricey, but not as pricey as XTECH. The turnaround for Riddell customs however is weeks, XTECH is days.
If you decide to go with XTECH, I would play around with their 3d custom builder to gauge price and options, then call them and let them explain the options, certain add ons, and help you configure them. Basically, Arch cuts, cups, and epaulettes really depend on 2 things… your build and how you want the pads to fit/ look. Some guys are smaller, and may feel like standard cut, cups, and epaulets would be too bulky. Some guys are bigger, and skill/ super skill won’t provide the coverage they want/ need. And some guys just like less or more pad regardless of their size.
There’s always compromise depending on the options you select, but unlike altering your pads, going with a smaller/ bigger size, or selecting a different brand for whatever reason, with XTECH, I don’t believe you’re ever compromising the baseline level of protection their system provides. And, I also believe that their baseline of protection is superior to anything else.
i’m in college and few of my teammates have the warrior pads you show. no shoulder injuries in season so far
What college do you go to? And, my hope is that your college is not providing warrior pads or asking athletes to get their own gear if they want to play, are they? Because, that would be an entirely different issue. 😂
Now, if that’s just what a few of your teammates are choosing to wear on their own... well, that’s a completely different story. What positions do they play? do they start? Are they dominant?
I ask because there’s a few different explanations as to why they could be choosing to wear them. And, it will be a SUPER long reply if I address them all. **DISCLAIMER TO ANYONE THAT READS MY FUTURE EXPLANATIONS ON THIS TOPIC** My explanation should in no way shape or form be taken as something you should ever try. As a matter of fact, these explanations will only contain information that you should NEVER use to make ANY decision. 😂🤣😂🤣
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I felt that hit at Home UFC linebacker got ran over and shaking up on the play they went to a time out
I’m actually thinking about getting the x tech pads as all of the Riddell pads are out of stock. I’m playing middle line backer and am planning on getting the arch, epaulet, cup, and shoulder foam standard. I measured in at a small rn at 6 ft 190 but am only 15 and am done growing height wise but am wondering if when I add another 30 pounds in a couple years if I will need to go up in size or if I should buy a size up to grow into?
Also are any of the optional accessories really worth it?
As far as accessories go, I would look into the sternum protector. I’ve never seen you play, but some guys don’t attack downhill behind their pads correctly. And, when going against a solid ball carrier or run blocker who means business, if he catches you standing still and or straight up, and decides to run it up your chest, the potential for injury to the sternum, and up into the shoulder complex (especially to the clavicle) is there.
I also like the channel pads. And, that’s even if you do play correctly behind your pads. They raise the pads off the body a bit and provide an additional tier of protection, especially for guys willing to bring that hammer downhill, correctly, and at full force.
Both can easily be added later or removed if not needed, but I like them because I’ve seen several instances where that additional level of protection was needed and not present, resulting in an injury.
Off hand, I know the small is 17-18” and the Medium is 18-19”. Typically, if you were bigger/ more muscular, and measured 18, the medium would probably fit you better. But, I’m not sure how XTECH feels about sizing up like that for “growing room”. Now, if you measured for a SM at 17”, I would say the medium is going to be too big.
If you’re thinking XTECH, I would definitely call them directly and let them walk you through their entire process. They’ve got a great team over there that can answer all of your sizing/ other questions and ensure you get what you need.
@@workassertrepeatthankyou for responding and the info, I’m thinking about getting the sternum pad and may get the channels later cause I’m trying to get the bare minimum on the pad because if it’s hefty price, next year I’m definitely going to try to play more behind my pads
I don’t see the message I’m replying to anymore, but… I think you should get the best pads you can afford. JPK, SPK, XTECH in that order. In my opinion, XTECH requires that sternum pad if there is a chance that someone will get under and up into your chest with any force.
Also, I don’t think XTECH should ever be considered “overkill”. They should be considered superior. In terms of design, ability to reduce force to the body (except in those situations I feel the sternum pad is a requirement), customer support, customization, turn around, etc.
Truth is… some guys can get hit in the mouth hard as sh*t a million times and never tap out. Others get their jaw grazed once and they’re out for the count.
If you’re the later, you have two options… stop fighting or get the gear that’s going to allow you to stay in the fight. Doesn’t mean you can’t be a great fighter, you just need to be better protected to fight with more confidence and keep your foot on the gas!
Then, there’s the long term effect of the game on the body (4 quarters, next week, entire season, post season, next year, etc.). And, even with the strongest jaw, you’re going to eventually feel the game. So, regardless of what lots of people like to think… there comes those moments in the game where EVERYBODY takes their foot off the gas. Because, that’s what the game is all about!
All that being said… better helmets and shoulder pads equal more gas, less brakes. Unless your just out there for show and have no intentions of getting in the fight.
If you’ve never worn anything as good as a JPK, you’ll definitely notice the difference on contact… and it’s a difference you’ll continue to notice as you continue upgrading.
yeah my shoulder pads suck but i still play very well and its only my 4th season been wearing crappy shoulder pads its uncomfortable and annoying to play with especially when i get into a 4 point stance if i had better pads i would probably be way better its mostly the new kids to football who are small and weak who get scared and don't wanna play no more
I’m peewee football and I had a game today and boy did I destroy
Shoulder pads determine how well you play?
Do you mean determine as in… cause (something) to occur in a particular way; be the decisive factor in?
No, They are not the decisive factor in how well you play, but they are definitely a big part of the equation!
Because, Shoulder pads (and helmets) determine how much force of impact will reach the body. And, when you can Reduce the force of impact to the body enough…yes, a football player WILL play better: harder, more confidently, prevent injury, reduce wear and tear play to play, quarter to quarter, game to game, season to season, etc. and never hesitate to bring it!
DON’T reduce the force of impact to the body enough and: football players WILL receive injuries that could have been prevented, feel like they’re 60 when they’re 20, play on their heels, and lack the confidence to go fill that gap or bring the ball downhill before the end of the 1st half.
Sure, some guys are really “tough” and will run themselves into that wall until it comes crumbling down 🧐😂.
But, the truth is… you won’t play as well if you feel like your bout to break. And, you can’t play as well if you’re on the sideline broken. So now, besides how well YOU used to play, the real question is… how well does your team play without you? Because, since you decided to be “tougher” than all of the objective evidence that points to PHYSICS and shoulder related injuries in tackle football being real things… you’ve got your arm in a sling, with a big a** bag of ice ace bandaged to the top of your shoulder, wishing you’d had on a better set of shoulder pads 😂.
The funny thing is that the better the equipment, the greater velocity the game is played. I guarantee you that injuries would be reduced if they went back to leather helmets. Rugby is a rough sport but they don’t have the number of injuries that football has. Especially the most important injury concern of all… the BRAIN. helmets have been easily the most improved equipment. What happened when amazing helmets were introduced? Human missile tackling. Rugby still uses technique tackling like the old football days. Troy palamaulu and new helmets changed that. With the institution of linemen using their hands. Shoulders are not a very big part of football. As an offensive and defensive linemen you want a bare minimum amount of pads. Almost using the pads as protection from laceration and protection from an opposing blunt edge helmet. Shoulder pad technology is overrated. The only that that really hurts playing football is when your head gets involved. When I started playing at 8 yes old all the way through college it was headaches and neck pain that made it hard to play through, NOT your shoulders. When you get your bell ring and your head feels like a fragile eggshell, it does affect you. I would be surprised if anyone who played would disagree with me. You want to stop serious injury? Get rid of face-masks. Kids would definitely start tackling correctly. Knee injuries are a risk in any activity out there, that’s not going away
Head trauma is the only concern that needs addressed in football
I’ve never been a fan of comparing Rugby to Football. Both are physical, but they’re very different In terms of game play and how contact is initiated and received. Respect to both games! But, because of these differences, I’m not sold that Rugby style “technique” tackling is always the best answer for Tackle Football. The first thing that comes to mind is a RB that means business coming down hill against a LB that’s hell bent on filling that gap. I’m not entirely sure a Seahawk Roll is appropriate. Neither am I sure that this is a situation where a guy is telling himself that shoulder pad technology is overrated.
To be honest, I think one only needs to watch some of these adult, no pad, tackle football league games, to see that Tackle Football just wouldn’t be the tackle football we love without helmets and shoulder pads… because, without the equipment, yeah, it still kinda looks like tackle football, but it’s definitely not the same.
As far as helmets go, I do agree that nothing good happens when the head gets involved. But, a big part of mitigating these types of collisions, besides throwing flags and fining guys for leading with their heads, is teaching kids how to properly play behind their pads, especially where tackling , shedding a block, or running with the ball (run play, after the catch, scrambling) is concerned. At this point, I’d say any development into reducing the force of impact to the body is definitely a good thing. Especially as it relates to head trauma and indirect hits to the shoulder/ body leading to a rotational motion of the head.
And yes, there’s an awful lot of “hands” going on… ineffective against better pass rushers if you ask me, but only because the best dlinemen are great at bringing it behind those pads. This isn’t to say the pads are always making contact, it’s more to do with the intensity and angle of attack (up and into) their opponent, in conjunction with, their ability to split, execute a “skill move” or simply bull rush through an opponent without standing upright, chest to chest. Without shoulder pads I’m not 100% certain you’d get the same level of intensity play after play. Again, due to those indirect rotational forces, as well as the direct stress you’d put on the shoulder complex (mainly the Clavicle, AC joint, scapula, and GH joint) whenever contact did occur.
Then there’s just the straight up lack of tackling at every level of play! Guys unwilling to bring that pad to the hip! Could be they don’t want to crack those eggshells in the process but I’ve seen plenty of stingers and broken clavicles that didn’t result in a head injury that still took guys off the field for the day, week, weeks, or even the season. And, Better shoulder pads definitely do a better job of preventing these types of injuries. No, these types of injuries may not hurt as much as those headaches and neck pain from getting your bell rung, but they’re just as effective at reducing a teams combat power.
You’re spot on with the concept of better equipment leading to a different and more dangerous level of play (human missile tackling). But, that’s what all of this technology is about… giving players the confidence to play more physically and ultimately do their job… better. But, with better equipment and more confident game play, comes the balancing effect… where equipment technology, injury concerns, and rules must work together to create the safest and most exciting game play possible.
You’re also spot on with the most important injury concern being the brain. Because, these types of injuries can carry hidden, lasting, and life threatening effects. But, I don’t think we need to throw shoulder pad or any other technology out of the window just yet (or ever). Because, the key to player safety and longevity is going to come as all of these things are developed: helmet tech, shoulder pad tech, mouthpiece tech, sock tech (kind of kidding but they do have padded socks these days, 😂), shoe tech (lower extremity injury), how we train and develop athletes (especially as it relates to knowledge, training knowledge to task, even if that’s just teaching folks how not to play with their head… the kinetic chain, building functional strength, etc), rule changes, so on and so forth.
You see, football is WAR and every piece of equipment plays it’s part in doing its best to keep players on the field, as well as, performing their best in order to accomplish the mission. And, that mission is to WIN. No, going to war is not always the safest proposition… and today, we will always wish we had at our disposal, what isn’t possible until tomorrow. But, as long as we keep learning from yesterday, and pushing technology forward, we’ll always be better off than we were.
Yeah that last sentence kind of opened the door to a much deeper philosophical debate… but that’s a conversation for another time, 😂🤣😂🤣
Man great video but vertical videos are the worst!
Yeah the shoulder pads that you get from ur team are very poor, they have no flexibility at all.
Honestly I have had the warrior pads and I had a great season with them I play mlb and I didn’t have any problems honestly I liked them but I got new xenith element hybrid pads for the new season and I’ll let you guys know
Some folks are juggernauts, some folks more resemble Mr. Glass (in terms of how they “feel” the game). So, at the end of the day, better equipment is really about 2 things: 1) Preventing Mr. Glass from breaking, as well as, giving him the confidence he needs to get out there, enjoy the game, succeed, and help reduce wear and tear over time. 2) protect those juggernauts, who could give a f* about equipment or wear and tear. Because, whether those juggernauts know it or not, wear and tear is just as important for them as it is for Mr. Glass.
So yeah, let us know… because if you were a beast in warrior pads, and notice the difference between those and a better set of pads, you’ll probably have an even better season!
Would you recommend the Schutt Sports XV HD
I have no first hand experience with the XV HD. However, I would not recommend any varsity level shoulder pad that still uses EVA foam. That or, youth level pads using EVA as the sole source of padding.
Why? 1. Test results (mainly from running shoe insole repeated impact testing using EVA foam) show that the EVA loses its ability to “pad” with each foot strike. Given the repeated contact nature of football, as well as, the forces of that contact being considerably more than your foot through the ground (running), using padding that you know will lose its ability to pad with each hit is dangerous, reckless, negligent, etc.
2. In my own experience, testing a variety of materials in the design of my own technologies ... I confirmed that EVA does not stand up to repeated abuse (football, 😂) the way other materials do.
3. Based on this and more, it’s my opinion that EVA is only used to lower costs in order to sell pads at a price that more people are willing to purchase them at. But, by purchasing them, you’re definitely buying an inferior product that WILL NOT protect as well.
@@workassertrepeat and what about the gear pro tec rz7’s
@@evanmesa4947 Fierce looking set of pads. The SAS-TEC padding sounds solid... but it’s only used through the cap (shoulder) so what are they using everywhere else? Also has some solid construction tech. But, at $360, I would need to bang them up a bit to see if they’re worth $100 more than a set of pads I know guys can clack in. Hopefully, Gear Pro is down to let me test them in my Full Contact Shoulder Pad Review! We’ll know in the next couple weeks.
I’m currently in my off season of football from JV bout be on varsity. Last season I felt I couldn’t play to my best ability, I was using a trash helmet and pads, when ever i went for tackle I had bad power and couldn’t come down hill effectively so the would result in me getting ran over. I’m looking to buy some pads that would improve my performance as a linebacker, I love the 600$ ones in the video but are there any elite options from 200-350$?
What size pads do you wear? That and, better pads won’t increase power themselves... rather, they’ll better absorb the impact of the hits. In turn, you’ll feel less... and typically that allows you to play harder/ more confidently. So, if the power (muscular) to not get ran over is there, and you’re just unwilling to bring it because it hurts like shit to get downhill and smack somebody... better pads will definitely help. Now, if you lack the Muscular Power to do the job, that’s a different story. For that, you need to checkout www.lifeismybattlefield.com and order you’re ABP (Athlete Battle Plan). That, together with a better set of pads will have you laying RB’s and QB’s on their back next season.
Thank you and yes it did hurt my shoulders when I would go for big hits, I wear around a medium set of pads I’m 6ft 185 ib do you have any recommend pads u think I should get + I’ve been in the weight room everyday trying to improve
@@rush8459 I would look at Tag ALT3 950 or Riddell SPK+ LB/FB. Tags are $374 ($280 after “EAT” discount. Riddell are around $330 (I don’t get a discount with them).
Thanks, btw how to do feel about the gear pro-tec razor rz15 for me and my position?
@@workassertrepeat I’m look in to the tag and the riddle looks good but it’s sold out
Good stuff man
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@@joemarkley3849 I'm not saying I don't have the money, I just don't know if it's worth that. Then again I haven't tried these for myself so
@@yvngenchilada1114 for 400 dollars less the ridell pads are not even that bad, I had a 16 td season with the "trash" gear that the team supplied.
How about Douglas LEGACY shoulder pads
I apologize for the delay. With Douglas I would stay with a Standard Pro (SP). Yes, they are twice the price of the Legacy, but in my opinion, pad manufacturers that have been around a while are simply putting their well established name on lowered price point equipment to compete with newer manufacturers ability to produce a better pad, using better tech/ materials, at a lower cost. I especially question things when pad manufacturers won't tell you how or out of what the pads are made. As far as Douglas and "Air Management" go... even the SP's could use some refreshing, because in my experience, the "Air Management" and padding system "bottom out" under what I would consider "normal" impacts. So, I can only imagine that at half the price the Legacy's would bottom out under even less force of impact.
I would love to say: buyem, tryem (by knocking the shit outta folks), and if you don't feel like they offer you the level of protection you need, because you feel the majority of impacts and are taking stingers every or every other/ every few practices... sendem back. But, pad manufacturers don't work like that.
So, let's do this... How old are you, or your athlete? What position? What's the most you can/ want to spend on a set of pads?
Lemme know and we'll look into the best options for you.
What shoulder pads have the best material for 11 year old
@@nickcruz2649 That depends... measure him across the shoulder blades, to the outside of each shoulder (in inches) and send me the measurement.
If he can fit adult sizes (say 15-16”), adult shoulder pads would provide the best materials as they are designed for greater impact. If he’s not that big yet, you can’t go wrong with a set of Tag ALT3 944, regardless of position (Xenith Flytes are popular, but TRASH in comparison).
And right now, I believe the 944’s are the pad to beat... price, fit, comfort, protection, etc.
just copped a pair of xtechs no returns so i hope these as worth as they seem to be 👍🏾
You will probably love them! But, if you don't... What size are they? 😂.
@@workassertrepeat talked to a size helper and they recommended a medium i’m a DE 5”10 ab 210 i love to have mobility in my arms i don’t want a bulky shoulder pad these looked awesome i’ll see how they work man but damn it’s a lot of money lmao
@@workassertrepeat i see you got a medium there how do they fit on the guys you let them use ?
@@josiahmata7118 Did you get the Super Skill or Skill Cut?
@@workassertrepeat arch is a standard but the cup is a skill cup idk what a epaulet is but he recommends a skill cut and then 3/8 inch shoulder foam
Thanks for sharing,
@Soldier Up Sports what would you say about the Riddell Phenom AP for Linebackers?
Happy Thanksgiving! My opinion is that they’re a price pointed adult level pad. That being said, they’ll provide you as much protection as a $200 adult level flat pad currently can.
I’ve never worn them or seen anybody rock out with them on. But, these days... I’d at least be looking for some sort of clavicle/ arch build up/ channel system. It’s just a better way to offer more protection in a less expensive pad. And, to my knowledge the AP’s don’t have that. I think Riddel starts incorporating that into their SPK line.
If I were at the HS level, feeling the game more than I felt I should, and had $200 to put into a better pad... I would wait until I could save up another $150 and start with the SPK’s. Waiting is def better than throwing $200 down the drain for something that’s probably not going to work very well. Now, if I were still playing Youth-MS ball and wearing Youth sizes, I would put that $200 into a set of ALT3 944 (first) or Riddell JPK (second).
But, then again... you might be a monster and could give a sh** about what pads you wear cause you’re out there fn everybody up and never feeling a thing. In that case, you could buy the cheapest pads you want, because you only need them for the equipment requirement, lol.
What do you think of the Riddell SPX pads? I want to get them and I am a RB and Saftey, 5'5" 140 Lbs. Do they have good range of motion? And will my shoulders be protected?
www.riddell.com/riddell/en/Open-Catalogue/Shoulder-Pads/Varsity/SPK%2B/POWER-SPK%2B-RB-DB/p/R48266
Basically the SPK are the same price, as well as, updated with the removable channels. I’d say it really depends on how much you can get the SPX for. If you can get them at a better price and that’s what you can afford, they’re a solid choice. If they’re going to be the same price as the SPK, I’d go SPK.
Would you reccomend the xenith velocity 2 for around 220? It’s all I got to spend but I dislocated my shoulder from hitting too hard with trash school pads. I’m going into sophmore year and most likely playing at the varsity level as a d end or linebacker
Do you know what you guys are wearing at the school?
What size do you wear? Do you know your measurement… 17-18 (L), 18-19 (XL), etc?
@@workassertrepeat I’m like a 17.5
@@workassertrepeat we’re wearing random pads from a bunch of brands, they gave me some too big for me
If that’s what you can afford, I’m pretty sure the velocity 2 would be better than any random set of pads someone had lying around. Another solid option (a little more expensive though) would be to grab a set of Riddell JPK’s ($220), take out the removable clavicle pads they come with, and replace them with the XTECH “removable channels”. The XTECH channels use XRD. And XRD is superior at absorbing impact force. I’m not sure if you could add them to the velocity 2, because the v2 doesn’t have removable clavicle pads and the inner padding is wrapped in a smooth fabric that may not allow the hook and loop fastening on the removable channels to stick.
Either way, it sounds like the v2 would definitely be an upgrade!
What shoulder pads would you recommend for a 15 year old that's plays a skill position that plays highschool?
How much do you want to spend?
are the xtech pads good for linebackers?
XTECH pads are good for ANY position. They are expensive though! That and, you need to ensure they are built correctly. For a LB, I would recommend the 1/2 inch shoulder foam, sternum pad, and removable channel options. Those options make the pads even more expensive! But, if you’re willing to afford them, I don’t think there’s a set of pads out there capable of providing the same level of protection.
Alright appreciate it because my parents are willing to get me new pads because my old ones are busted up from to much use
Do you remember how long it takes for delivery
Xtech ships within 1 business day. Then, maybe 3-5 days in transit depending on the shipping option you check. If you’re talking about Tag… order to delivery has usually been about 2-3 days.
Loved it !
Thinking about buying Xenith velocity 2 pads or riddell rpk pads for the upcoming season im a sophomore on varsity any tips
Do you mean SPK? If so, as long as the price isn’t a factor, I would go SPK all day over the Velocity 2.
How do you like Douglas shoulder pads do you think they would be good for runningbacks
If you go Douglas Custom Pro Series, Douglas is fine. For a RB, I would choose a CANT (short for cantilever) model. But, for that price (around $500) I would really look into XTECH. At first, I had issues with the level of protection XTECH provided when taking solid hits to the sternum area (for players with less experience, experienced players who don't run correctly behind their pads, or for any player who on that rare/ not rare occasion where the defender gets under and up into them). But, that issue has been rectified by the addition of an optional sternum pad. And, in my opinion, that, coupled with a few other things, really make XTECH the best (as well as most expensive) set of pads on the market. If you're interested in them, make sure you contact them directly so they can build them based on what you need... not what anyone has in stock.
@@workassertrepeat okay cause I’m 9 and am gonna play football next year
@@joeybolinphotography If you're 9, I would look into a Tag ALT3 944 or Riddell JPK. They will be considerably less expensive, as well as, being a solid youth level pad. Now, if you've got some size on you (my boy was 10 wearing an adult sm/md) and the money doesn't matter.... there's nothing wrong with buying the best pads you can fit. Most "Adult" pads will start at about 16-17 inches (measured across the shoulder blades, shoulder to shoulder). I believe the Xtech size XS starts at 16"
I could use a xtech for 80lbs. Is those can us if can?
It’s not so much about weight as it is your shoulder measurement. This link will explain how to measure to see if they have a size that will fit:
xtechpads.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Product_Guide_20_Web4.pdf
Thank you, I just had a stroke about 1.5 months ago so thank you for getting back to me.
What do you think of Riddell power jpk+? What is the difference between spk and jpk?
JPK is definitely a Youth level pad. Sizing starts at 13” up to 18”. It has 2 cuts/ arch lengths. The AP version will have a wider cut and longer arch with Larger Epaulets (shoulder flaps). The SK version will have a narrower cut and shorter arch with smaller epaulets to help give skill players a less bulky pad with more range of motion.
SPK is an Adult Pad with sizing starting at 17”. It will come in more cuts and arch lengths by position: QB/wr, ol/dl, FB/lb, rb/db/multi-purpose.
I’ve seen JPK’s on a couple athletes and they tend to “bottom out” under solid impact... even after adjusting the clavicle pads. That and the fact that Riddell doesn’t promote the use of a superior padding (the way they are promoting their Diamond helmets, tunable energy management, and Carbon partnership) ... I can only assume that they’ve yet to incorporate a newer more energy absorptive material into their shoulder pad. And, that’s why regardless of any “STAC system” or “Air Management Liner” technology they list, the pads don’t perform as well as I think they should.
Haven’t seen the SPK’s in action, but, Riddell tells me the JPK and SPK utilize the same padding. Based on that, I wouldn’t put $300+ into a set of SPK’s, when I can get an Adult set of ALT3’s for $280. Not really a brand fan... I rock with what works the best, at the price I want to afford.
@@workassertrepeat Thanks a lot！
Are Xtech pads truly worth it for a HS school player if they probably aren't going to fit the next season?
3 things.
1. I CAN afford them and the price IS NOT an issue. If so, yes. I buy them (with key add-ons) every time he outgrows them. And, resell the used ones at like 50-60%.
2. I CAN afford them, I just don’t want to buy them. If so, I would take into account how my athlete plays. A. Does he go hard as f, play behind his pads, but complain sometimes or show visual signs of shoulder issues, stingers, etc. B. Does he play more timid, arm tackle, not really get downhill, and not really go as hard as the game demands? If either A or B are true, I buy them (with key add-ons) every time he outgrows them. And, resell the used ones at like 50-60%. If B is true, I also get him some training.
3. I CANNOT afford them or I’m just NOT going to buy them. Are A or B true? If so, figure out what he’s currently wearing, how much I can/ will afford to get something better, hit Neal (me) up, then, get the best set of pads I can/ want to afford.
Typically a solid set of pads is going to be the model just underneath their “Custom” or most expensive pad. And, their usually anywhere from $3-400.
For me, it’s safety over everything. And, more than just what could happen in 1 game, if I can put my kid in a helmet or pads that are actually better and WILL reduce the cumulative effect of each game on their body, I’m in.
And nowadays, SOME equipment is SO much better that certain equipment WILL prevent injuries and issues that other equipment WILL NOT. Consequently, you don’t have to “feel” the game as much as you once did. Only problem is, there’s a nice little price tag that goes along with it.
@@workassertrepeat Temple running back vs UFC linebacker college Football I felt that hit at home 2016 UFC linebacker got ran over
And shaking up on the play they went to a time out .
Hey man can you explain to me what the sternum pad is on the xtech pads
The sternum pad is an additional option you can purchase that provides extra protection for the chest. Stock, I feel that without that sternum pad, Xtech will under-perform for athletes who don’t yet play behind their pads, or athletes who take certain hits they can’t protect themselves from… I.e. QB’s and WR’s taking shots up and into the chest when they don’t see it coming.
@@workassertrepeat thank you man
Bro no one is spending 500 on pads all the gear is mad expensive already
Some do. Some don’t.
For youth how do you feel about xenith?
I don't like the Xenith Flyte at all. That all black looks good, and it's perfectly priced about $50 less than what you can get a solid set of youth pads for... but when they start hittin'... those flytes don't have any business on a football field.
Are the 500$ ones Good for Wide receivers/slot receivers? lol
Yes. But you need to call XTECH and let someone help you customize them for that position. Things like Maximum mobility (skill or super Skill cut arch, epaulettes, cups), extra chest padding (sternum) in case you get hit up and under to the chest, padding thickness, etc... That or, grab a set of Tag Ript 780-1 or 780-2. The tag RIPT are less expensive ("EAT" 25% code), as light or lighter, and will work just as good... Just not as customizable and not as aggressive of an arch cut as the XTECH super Skill.
just got xenith fly pads today. Are they any good for corner/runningback
Take or mail those things back to wherever you got them, lol. But seriously, they are one of the worst sets of pads you can get. Great Price, Look Cool. And yeah, a lot of kids wear them. But, they are trash!
Now, if whoever is wearing them is 5 or 6 years old... that MIGHT be okay. MIGHT.
@@workassertrepeat Im 15. Thought they were a good budget pad. the pads they give us are like the pad in the video. just foam and plastic
@@ianherrera3753 Are you playing HS Football? And did you get Flyte or Fly? Either way, there is no way a 15 year old should be wearing either. Give me a call when you can, I’d like to get some more info. 512.619.1878. Free for the next hour. Then, after 9 CST.
@@workassertrepeat and yes I'm playing HS football
i got shoulder pads and pants from my team and they r giant, and helmets all fit weird its either too big or too small
You should have them refit you for shoulder pads and get you a set that fits. Wearing them too big or too small is definitely NOT the way to go. Check the manufacturers site, and they should have fitting details. Also, some helmets either have an air system you can bleed/ add air to or different size padding in certain areas you can use to adjust the fit (your team may not have those pads, but if they are available, you should be able to get them directly from the manufacturer for whatever model helmet you have). If your helmet has neither, you can look into a helmet liner to create a better fit. That or, buy your own/ better helmet that fits properly. Whatever you do, DO NOT wear a helmet that’s too small (headaches, because the helmet is squeezing your head is not something you need to get used to) and DO NOT wear a helmet that’s too big (if you can pull the face mask down and the helmet can contact the bridge of your nose, that is a broken nose waiting to happen. And, if there is too much space between any part of your head and the interior of the helmet, the helmet will be able to move independently of your head, and that is DEFINITELY a HUGE safety hazard.
@@workassertrepeat thanks i am probably going to buy some pads online, and my school has riddell medium and large helmets and some mediums are too small and large are big, so I will keep on looking to find the right fit
@@maximomachado1464 What grade are you in? Also, Do you know what model Riddell helmet they’re using? If not, send me a picture of it and I’ll tell you what you need to do to get a proper fit.
@@workassertrepeat I have a 2011 modell, i think it might be a victor i am not sure though. since i am a freshman i do not get a choice of a speedflex yet because upper classmen usually get them.
@@maximomachado1464 The Victor has 2 models I believe. If it has nipple inserts on the back of the helmet then it has an air bladder system and someone there should have a needle and pump to customize the fit. If it doesn’t have those nipple inserts, you’re only going to be able to change the jaw pads. Jaw pads come in different thicknesses. If the school doesn’t have them, you’ll need to search for “Riddell s-pads” and pick up a thinner or thicker jaw pad than what you already have to provide you a better fit.
hey man do you recommended xenith velocity 2’s or xenith element skill or hybrid for a corner?
I would recommend the element over the velocity. And, if you’re over 6’ tall, I would go with the hybrid. Because, the skill is designed with a shorter length. This shorter length may cause some fit/ comfort issues for taller players.
I think you can grab a set of elements for $250 now… $50 more than the velocity, but the elements are going to include a clavicle build up system to raise the pads up and off the shoulders through the arch. As far as I’m concerned, this feature allows “flat pads” to offer better protection than those without.
@@workassertrepeat thank you so much, as they are currently not in stock in my size, do you recommend any other pads around the 2-3 hundred dollar range?
@@James-nx1vs what size do you wear? Then, I can look into what’s currently available in your exact size.
@@workassertrepeat i’m a size small
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Bro said 5 6 hundred dollars easy
Easy... lol. That’s why I like TAG. You get a super solid set of pads for considerably less than what a “comparable” shoulder pad from some of these other manufacturers would cost.
My son is 11 years old about 147 pounds and plays on the D line and O line I want to buy him the X tech but when I reached out to them they told me he was too young come back in a year and I got that email from the president of x tech he has the velocity pads I just brought but I noticed him having bruises on his arms either the forearm area or behind the muscle area need your help I gotta get my boy the best pads out for his position money is no object what pads should I go with because he needs them ASAP he’s playing spring ball now
What’s his measurement/ current pad size? For athletes who can’t yet fit adult sizes, I like Tag ALT3 944 or Riddell Power JPK (have to be at least 13-14” for JPK’s). JPK’s run around $200. 944’s are about the same price If you use code “EAT”. Pads don’t really start hitting the pockets until you get to Adult sizes.
As far as those bruises go… bruising to the forearms is usually a sign that a defender isn’t getting behind his pads, shedding blocks, or tackling properly. For Oline, it typically means he’s not blocking and or leveraging his blocks properly
Now, if he’s getting bruising to the shoulder or outside of the bicep… than that is definitely those velocity pads! Those pads bottom out like crazy and every time they do, it somehow drives the cap (second flap underneath the epaulet) into the arm and causes some serious bruising!!! As if the whole bottoming out part wasn’t enough, lol!
@@workassertrepeat shoulder to shoulder was 17 and a quarter to about 17.5
Are you sponsored by tag I see you promoting them in almost every video or as a coach you KNOW these are the best youth pads for sure
@@AL-ok7qt At 17 to 17.5 shoulder to shoulder, he’s probably 16” or so from the Glenohumeral head on either side (Xtech has a great explanation of taking this measurement on their site). That would put him in an Adult XS to SM depending on the brand, as well as, depending on the chest measurement. If the chest measurement doesn’t line up to the adult sizing, I would recommend staying with youth sizes. That’s probably why Xtech said to wait a year. What’s his chest measurement?
do you think deltoid pads are necessary
I think they’re necessary if you’re at risk of taking a shot up, under, and into the side of your chest while throwing, reaching up/ out to catch the ball, getting blocked on an angle, etc.
Especially, if your pads have a narrow arch (the part that goes over the shoulder and extends down the front and back on either side of your body). Some folks might say “personal preference”... but if and when you take a shot like that... it would suck to have to come out of the game, miss some games, or the rest of the season... because you didn’t have them attached.
@@workassertrepeat thanks for the answer. Also what do you think about the Schutt XV7 QB/Wr
@@zzachylol8995 I don’t have any experience with them. But, from what I can find... the XV7 doesn’t have Schutts air management system. And, its still using EVA as the primary source of padding. So, for $250 you’re getting a scaled down, price driven pad that looks similar to but is NOT going to provide you the same level of protection as their more expensive models.
So, how much protection do you actually need? For me, it’s all about being able to take the hits, blow through blocks, knock the juice out of ball carriers, or smash through defenders play after play without feeling like that’s what I did.
If you’re still playing youth ball and can fit adult size pads, these might be okay... but if you’re playing HS... I would find something else. For around $250 it’s hard to beat the Adult Tag Alt3 in QB/WR cut (that’s with 25% off “EAT” code).
Some folks don’t like that they don’t incorporate the traditional plastic arches, but, I’ll take a better pad over what I think a pad should look like any day.
And then, there’s waiting a few paychecks to just get the best set of pads out period. In my opinion, that’s XTECH. I would also opt for the thicker padding and add the sternum pad option. Why do I think they’re the best? 1. Because, I’ve seen them in action on kids who wouldn’t hit a fly before they put those things on, and 2. Manufacturers are starting to copy their process as much as they can.
Is there a original xtech and a xtech two or only one model
It's one model that has been updated over the years. As far as I know, the updates aren't to their core technology, rather, things like: using smaller (thus lighter) all stainless steel hardware, better moisture management (thus reducing added weight from sweat), smaller/ stronger epaulets, and things of that nature.
@@workassertrepeat are the ones on sports unlimited the new model
@@workassertrepeat do you think the x tech is the best shoulder pads or is something like the Russell carbontek better this is coming from a wide receiver
@@supercam1346 I don't know whether they buy them and maintain a stock of a certain configuration or they take your order then order directly through XTECH. I would buy them straight from xtechpads.com/
2-3 days production time + shipping.
Sorry I meant pro tech
What are your thoughts on the Riddell Power CPK LB/FB? Also is there any code or anywhere I could buy these using a code to save some money?
I like the Riddell Power line. When it comes to the CPK though, you’re going to pay $175 more than a set of SPK’s and only get 2 things: 1. That super aggressive arch cut and cooler looking design of the CPK (might be way more comfortable and provide a serious range of motion though, I don’t know). 2. The ability to customize your colors.
No codes. But, if you don’t have to have that CPK look and customizable colors… SPK’s are a solid set of pads!
@@workassertrepeat thankyou, really appreciate this man
@@workassertrepeat I have one more question, do you know when Riddell will restock on their shoulder pads or any sites that have in stock/carry the spk shoulder pads?
@@sergioflores7637 depending on what size you wear, and the cut/ style you want… you may want to check Sports Unlimited, they have some SPK’s in stock. Other than that, all of the company timelines are out of whack… I honestly think they have no idea when they’ll be able to replenish stocks. 😂
@@workassertrepeat oh ok, I had checked sports unlimited before and they only had like an XXL. I wear a medium at 6 ft 190 rn and am probably going to buy a cheap pad this year and try and buy it next year if they don’t get it in stock before the season.
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