2018 Maserati Ghibli Review: Fast, Loud, Worth It?

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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    For the 2018 model year, Maserati has facelifted the Ghibli to keep it fresh. We think the new front fascia looks great, though the rear design still leaves a lot to be desired. Our test model was the top-range Ghibli S Q4, which is powered by a 3.0-liter twin-turbo Ferrari-built V6 producing 424 horsepower. Power is sent out to all four wheels through an eight-speed automatic and rear-wheel-drive is also available. As optioned, our GranLusso test car priced out at $92,180, which isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination. Certain bits of the interior, like the wonderful silk seats, feel like they are worth every bit of the nearly six-figure price tag. Other parts, like the awkward shifter and shared FCA switches, can feel cheap. Maserati will look to correct some of these issues, like the wonky shifter, in the 2019 model year. So is the Maserati Ghibli worth its price tag? Or should you stick with a more conventional German option?
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Комментарии • 153

  • @carbuzzcom
    @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад +6

    Ask us any questions about the Maserati Ghibli!

    • @freshprince71
      @freshprince71 4 года назад

      As a curious buyer who's aware of all the negatives of the 2014 model, What are the upgrades from that year?

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  4 года назад

      @@freshprince71 better interior materials, facelifted front end, the 2019 model gets a better shifter design.

    • @philrodrigues9270
      @philrodrigues9270 4 года назад

      Is the Maserati Ghibli fast

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  4 года назад +1

      @@philrodrigues9270 it's quick. Not blistering.

    • @GTSCoupe
      @GTSCoupe 3 года назад

      The same 700 hundred dollar oil changes as Mercedes?

  • @k_s.m
    @k_s.m 9 месяцев назад +4

    'sounds pretty good'? man, this is one of the best, if not the best sounding v6 on the market.

  • @fredsmith601
    @fredsmith601 5 лет назад +44

    The engine is a Maserati engine fine tuned by Ferrari. Not a Chrysler unit as you mention.

    • @Isalei84
      @Isalei84 5 лет назад +16

      Exactly. The haters keep talking about those couple of switches shared with FCA group... Like it was something so important. Like if BMW, AUDI, Mercedes had better switches or didn't share any part when they actually do (I can tell for personal ownership experience with all these makes). The haters also like to stress the point that the engine block is made by Chrysler in Kokomo, Indiana. But it is only "loosely based" on the V6 Pentastar, highly tuned and modified under Ferrari specification. And that factory was actually established on purpose for Maserati. And everything else is made in Italy in the factories near Turin and Modena. Is not even comparable with a Chrysler or a Dodge, and only who owns it can judge it. 99% Maserati-Ferrari vehicle, full of personality and wonderful style.

    • @jordanbanko5347
      @jordanbanko5347 4 года назад +3

      Fred Smith that’s incorrect. The engine is based on the Pentastar Chrysler block and assembled by Ferrari. The Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio’s engine on the other hand is an actual Ferrari engine made by Ferrari. The block is cast and machined to Ferrari’s specs by Chrysler. It is specifically made for high production numbers unlike the Quadrifoglio’s and can not withstand high hp per liter. It technically is a Chrysler unit, therefore, you are incorrect with your statement. Please do a little bit of research before you try and correct someone.

    • @Isalei84
      @Isalei84 4 года назад +5

      Jordan Banko. You are the one being incorrect. Have you seen the people at the Ferrari factory in Modena working on this engine? Obviously not, as more than likely you don't even have a passport. I have seen them and lived closed to Modena, Italy for many years. So shut up. My earlier comment states the exact information, if you are able to read it instead of being a hater and correct other people like a "know it all". If the block is made in the US under strict Ferrari specifications, in a line of the factory purposely created for Maserati, it doesn't make it "technically a Chrysler unit" as you wrote. Especially because the block is only "loosely based" on the V6 Pentastar, highly tuned and modified under Ferrari specification. The block is than shipped to Ferrari in Italy and it is finished by hands in all its other components. Everything else of the car is made in Italy in the factories near Turin. Is not even comparable with a Chrysler or a Dodge. And, BTW, I also own what you celebrated so highly, the Alfa Giulia QV, so I am not biased like you. I love both vehicles, they are much different. The Alfa is more agile and has quicker steering and jerky transmission. Obviously quicker because it's much smaller and lighter. The Maserati is a 4 door GT cruiser, more comfortable for a long journey and with a smoother engine power delivery.

    • @jordanbanko5347
      @jordanbanko5347 4 года назад +1

      Carlo I am correct. Chrysler makes the block and Ferrari assembles it with their parts. The Alpha has a true Ferrari engine as the block is built by Ferrari and is somewhat shared with the California and Portofino. That is the difference. The Alpha engine is made to push even more power where the Maserati is not. That is another characteristic that makes it less of a true F engine. Also, I do have a Passport. That's weird that you assume I don't as you know nothing about me. You don't have to be an ass.

    • @Isalei84
      @Isalei84 4 года назад +4

      The fact that you keep horribly spelling ALPHA, when everyone knows that it is actually ALFA Romeo, says everything about your lack of knowledge about this topic. I won't keep arguing over this. I already stated the FACTS. Who cares if just the block is made in the US, if it is under Ferrari specifications, and everything else is made in Italy by Ferrari and Maserati in their factories? Nowadays, every other sport luxury car brand, even the most exotic like Lamborghini and Bentley, share parts from their group and part of them are outsourced and made elsewhere! Yours are just another Maserati hater excuses.

  • @SuperLukiano
    @SuperLukiano 5 лет назад +46

    Maserati is a gentleman’s car NOT the sport car regardless of what Maserati claims for marketing purposes. It takes a different kind of mindset to understand it. BMW 5 may have more modern interior but Maserati is about classy and elegant design. If they want to push modern, it would be a Ferrari kind of interior against whom, let’s be honest, no other car stand a chance against in any way. Italians does it best. So stop comparing Maserati to other, cheaper brands. Get your Nissan GTR if you’re so much in toy interiors and 0-60 time and shut up.

    • @barebarekun161
      @barebarekun161 5 лет назад +2

      True I was once into Maserati bashing and then I tried sat in one and I'm in love the handcrafted seats just shits on the mass produced crap that both 5 series and E class have.
      It felt like I'm sitting at home and then some made you feel like a millon buck inside.
      The interior have the right amount of sporty and luxury.
      Take the many quotes from Jeremy Clarkson when he reviews Alfa Romeo 166 and same quotes applied to this car.

    • @rajkirannatarajan9276
      @rajkirannatarajan9276 5 лет назад +1

      From the rear it looks like a Ford Fusion.
      Classy? Elegant? Lol what with the Dodge parts?

    • @SuperLukiano
      @SuperLukiano 5 лет назад +1

      If they look nice, as they do, who cares if it's Doge or....whatever@@rajkirannatarajan9276

    • @rajkirannatarajan9276
      @rajkirannatarajan9276 5 лет назад +1

      Silver N Black Mopar I agree. Not a big GM fan but CTSV has better interior and is a cooler ride. Probably more reliable as well.

    • @rajkirannatarajan9276
      @rajkirannatarajan9276 5 лет назад +2

      “Cheaper brands” lol
      Maserati is a cheap brand.
      Cheapness is determined by quality not by price.

  • @6thGearSam
    @6thGearSam 5 лет назад +5

    Nice work, Jared!

  • @XulTaiff
    @XulTaiff 2 года назад +5

    Its beautiful car still my dream car i will be getting this next year , waiting for the whole market to crash hopefully we have great deals on cars !

  • @bohlalenchabeleng1370
    @bohlalenchabeleng1370 4 года назад +1

    I like your honesty, you just earned my subscription. ❤

  • @dylanes21
    @dylanes21 4 года назад +2

    Thinking about getting a 2019, they have great deals on them right now, with great financing.

    • @XulTaiff
      @XulTaiff 2 года назад

      Lease then did you end uo getting it ?

  •  5 лет назад +15

    It looks beautiful.

  • @Griffith861
    @Griffith861 3 года назад +4

    Maseratis are badass

  • @djbrianc
    @djbrianc 5 лет назад +15

    The seat inserts are silk. Not cloth. FYI

    • @JaredRosenholtz
      @JaredRosenholtz 5 лет назад +1

      Yep, found out after the video was filmed. Mentioned in the written review. carbuzz.com/reviews/2018-maserati-ghibli-test-drive-review-fresh-face-with-the-heart-of-an-angel

  • @atriggeredsjw8532
    @atriggeredsjw8532 6 месяцев назад +1

    It’s crazy that these cars go for less than $40k today.

    • @thetruckinmannlogistics2423
      @thetruckinmannlogistics2423 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah I’m looking at an 18’ with 55k miles under 20k

    • @atriggeredsjw8532
      @atriggeredsjw8532 5 месяцев назад

      Well, there’s a reason why they have depreciated so much, for starters they are rare cars, you don’t see a lot of Maseratis on the road, also if you ever need work done on it expect to pay Ferrari prices.

  • @nimeshpatel9570
    @nimeshpatel9570 4 года назад +10

    The issue about parts sharing is redundant. The point is the switches feel cheap no matter what car they're in.Thats the point. Get into an Audi,5 series etc and feel the switchgear.Worlds apart.Even the switches in an E class and C class aren't amazing.

    • @k_s.m
      @k_s.m 9 месяцев назад

      Same in Bentley...

  • @stevodfn
    @stevodfn 5 лет назад +21

    Cloth? That's Ermengildo Zegna SILK! The finest and most expensive material there is...

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад +2

      We found that out later. It is wonderful!

    • @AlanAndalon
      @AlanAndalon 5 лет назад +10

      CarBuzz do your homework before you do your car reviews.

  • @aleksandar4570
    @aleksandar4570 3 года назад +3

    I am 55 yo and all my life I drive BMW serie 5. The new one is comming out next {2021} year and I have a big dilemma in my mind... I may consider to try Ghibli this time. The BMW is more reliable and overall the best choice in this segment but Maserati is a must own at least ones in a lifetime :)

    • @jaquevius
      @jaquevius 3 года назад +2

      I’m a 50 yo who has also mainly owned BMWs. I just got a Ghibli SQ4 two months ago and I absolutely love it. It’s a true driving experience. It’s the perfect balance of elegance and sport. If you are heavily into tech and the newer displays of the Germans, it may not be for you though. I actually like the simplistic nature of the interior myself, with the traditional tachometer etc. If you get a 2017 to current, the newer infotainment system has Apple CarPlay and has all of the tech I need or want, without making it overly complicated. The leather is exquisite and the exhaust note is intoxicating. I literally go for drives now just to shift and listen to it lol. I never felt this was in my BMW. I felt comfortably numb in them which is nice in its own way. The Ghibli is a drivers car, but it can’t compete with the bells and whistles the Germans offer. All are good options. I would highly suggest you drive one for a full weekend, even if you have to rent one. I would also highly recommend the SQ4 because it’s worth it.

    • @emperormouse5487
      @emperormouse5487 2 года назад +2

      ​@@jaquevius Wow I could not explain this better if I tried. I went from a BMW 3 series to an Alfa Romeo Guilia and that's exactly how I felt. The BMW had newer tech and felt more refined, with (slightly) nicer interior material use, UI interface, and the digital gauge screen to name some examples. However, it never excited me in the way the Alfa did. I never find myself just looking at it the way I do my Alfa. I always enjoyed driving my BMW, but I go out of my way to drive my Alfa. I never turned off my radio in the BMW to just listen to the exhaust note, I do it all the time in my Alfa. In some ways I felt like my 3 series was designed by a computer but the Guilia was designed by an artist. There is a personality to these Italian cars that really make them special.

    • @jaquevius
      @jaquevius 2 года назад +1

      @@emperormouse5487 Thanks. It's hard to explain, but until you have driven one for an extended time, you really can't describe it either. By nature, I am budget focused, and have never understood why people spend extra money on cars...I truly get it now, as the sound of this car is amazing. I actually go for drives and don't mind errands lol.

  • @kryogenicmx591
    @kryogenicmx591 5 лет назад +2

    They should get a hybrid engine for the ultimate fuel economy (the crisis happening now) and the acceleration, handling, and more (it has near-instant lift-off)

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад +1

      Maserati is working on hybrid technology. It's coming soon.

  • @BenzinioB
    @BenzinioB 3 года назад +3

    Sorry mate, check your facts better. The engine has Ferrari origin.

  • @lirumlarum8361
    @lirumlarum8361 5 лет назад +1

    Can you share your experience on the gearbox shift quality? Some people say its kind of jerky... also did you notice any rattles?

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад +1

      Gears are smooth, a little too much so. Wish it could be more aggressive at some points. No rattles, just brake squeal.

  • @lolkevandewitte1713
    @lolkevandewitte1713 3 года назад +1

    The paddleshifts are so much more fun!

  • @Gtaplayer325
    @Gtaplayer325 5 лет назад +1

    Fun Fact: In europe you can opt. for "US sized cupholders". In that case they come without a lid since they are bigger then the opening.
    Anyway nice review!

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад +1

      Wow! That's very interesting.

  • @bh2155
    @bh2155 5 лет назад +2

    Paying 90k you can get a nice Porsche 911. Maybe even a used turbo Carrera. It's a beautiful car I must say.

    • @travis6951
      @travis6951 4 года назад +2

      B B or wait 2 years and get it for $35k lol literally

    • @HooMeye
      @HooMeye 4 года назад +1

      @@travis6951 or wait 4 yrs and get it for free. And still pay 60k for a rusted 911.

    • @HooMeye
      @HooMeye 4 года назад +1

      A Porsche 911 doesn't look like it is worth 90k.

    • @emperormouse5487
      @emperormouse5487 2 года назад

      1) The Porsche 911 has a very outdated design. I know that's the appeal of the car, but there is a way of modernizing and revamping the design without sacrificing that iconic look. Rolls Royce and Bentley have been doing it for decades. Porsche can too.
      2) The Porsche 911 costs as much AMG CLS Mercedes but has only 2 doors, is half a second slower 0-60, and is at least 2 generations behind in tech.

  • @RomanM803
    @RomanM803 5 лет назад +3

    I’m not gonna lie I’m not paying 80 grand for the that car. That’s why I chose the Alfa Romeo Giulia. If the Giulia never came out I would have gotten a used sq4 40 grand

    • @HooMeye
      @HooMeye 4 года назад

      Good for you.

    • @Isalei84
      @Isalei84 4 года назад +1

      I have have both the SQ4 and the Giulia. They are very different, meant for different target market, each of them have its pros and cons and I love them both!

    • @DavidM-mb1vx
      @DavidM-mb1vx 2 года назад

      Two very different cars.

    • @emperormouse5487
      @emperormouse5487 2 года назад

      They are very different cars, but I can see why you chose the Giulia (in fact, I have one too). But my lease is up and I've been looking at getting a 2019 Ghibli with under 20K miles. It's actually slightly cheaper than a new Guilia, but also slightly faster, has better interior material use, and a much better sounding engine.

  • @socal_la4080
    @socal_la4080 4 года назад +4

    6:10 you can always crack the window duh🤦

  • @stevodfn
    @stevodfn 5 лет назад +16

    Of course if y'all cannot fit a big gulp or a venti frapuccino latte it's a no no in america

    • @thatwhitesq4
      @thatwhitesq4 5 лет назад

      Newer models I believe 2017 and up have cupholder option for America. Unfortunately my 2014 fits a maximum of 3 inch diameter it sucks ha.

    • @DavidM-mb1vx
      @DavidM-mb1vx 2 года назад

      That’s why Americans are all heavy. Lots of sugary drinks to fit in the cup holders.

  • @axeth5827
    @axeth5827 4 года назад +6

    Calm your hand dude..

  • @Braglemaster123
    @Braglemaster123 3 года назад +1

    No paddle shifters “ Sucks

  • @SoFloLuca
    @SoFloLuca 5 лет назад +9

    You didn’t think it looked good before?? Wow....I gave up on you 1:11 into this video....🤦🏻‍♂️👎🏼

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад

      The facelift just looks a lot more special. In our opinion, of course.

  • @ExGavalonnj
    @ExGavalonnj 5 лет назад +6

    He has a collared shirt!

  • @alstjr
    @alstjr 5 лет назад +2

    Except for exterior design, I don't know what's special about the Ghibli. I've heard so many people selling this vehicle within 2 months of purchase.

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад +2

      It sounds really good. Interior has some nice features as well.

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад +1

      @Silver N Black MoparMopar we'd probably take a CTS V as well, but not for the reasons you'd think.

    • @HooMeye
      @HooMeye 4 года назад

      Many of your aquaintences most probably?

  • @christianewald6704
    @christianewald6704 Год назад

    Thanks for convincing me not to buy a Maserati ghibli

  • @ivanlowjones
    @ivanlowjones 5 лет назад +3

    Quite a bit of Chrysler 300 switchgear in the interior.

    • @SuperLukiano
      @SuperLukiano 5 лет назад

      J High I like those Chrysler parts in it. Nothing is good about Chrysler??? Is that the thing?

    • @ivanlowjones
      @ivanlowjones 5 лет назад

      @@SuperLukiano
      I've owned FCA products and had no issues. Just buy a loaded top trim Chrysler 300 and save yourself $60,000 if you're a fan of Chrysler switchgear.

    • @SuperLukiano
      @SuperLukiano 5 лет назад +5

      I am a Chrysler 300 fan but I'm not in Chrysler brand or anything if that's what you mean. And I don't want to save money, not my primary goal when buying cars. If you're in a Maserati range of earnings it means that 60K won't change your life in any way but the lifestyle and the overal feel in Maserati definatly will. However, if you scraped off together 100K to buy a car then Maserati isn't for you. Get yourself a 20K car and invest the rest of it in business to get there. Maserati is a big buck game. Not that I'm there yet but I get it anyway. @@ivanlowjones

    • @4doormas758
      @4doormas758 5 лет назад +1

      Ghibli is designed by Maserati and built in Modena Italy by Ferrari. Ghibli Maserati is a 6 cycl car with Ferrari F160 (Google it) built engine 425 hp with a speed 0-60 4.7 sec. That can go to 180 mph.......The window switch 2518200110 was a part of Daimler/Chrysler from (1998-2007) $65- $144dollars. The switch is in the Mercedes ML350, ML450, ML550 for example and also in the Mercedes-Benz ML320, ML63, AMG and also again, still used in today’s Chrysler/fiat cars.
      So, the Maserati Window Switch is the same as the Mercedes Benz part that was passed on to Chrysler/Fiat cars.
      ..........so who “really owns” the window switch?
      Modern Maserati are built in Ferrari plant. So, a Ferrari window switch is $450 dollars before a dealer get a chance to working on it.
      So give me the FCA switch any day and the can find one window switch of a Dodge Dart in 20 years from now.😉
      Instead of having the dealer keeping the car for 60 days because they can not find a switch anywhere on planet Earth. The car roars from a Ferrari built engine.
      * Even the oil filter is by Ferrari
      Ghibli Transmission shift quality. The 8HP transmission from German supplier ZF is quick enough to serve sports cars and graceful enough for large luxury sedans, and it combines those elements of speed and smoothness whether it’s installed in an Aston Martin, a Rolls-Royce, or a Jeep.
      The entertainment monitor/system is by Chrysler installed by Ferrari and one of the best in the industry.

    • @Isalei84
      @Isalei84 5 лет назад +2

      The haters keep talking about those couple of switches shared with FCA group... Like it was something so important. Like if BMW, AUDI, Mercedes had better switches or didn't share any part when they actually do (I can tell for personal ownership experience with all these makes). The haters also like to stress the point that the engine block is made by Chrysler in Kokomo, Indiana. But it is only "loosely based" on the V6 Pentastar, highly tuned and modified under Ferrari specification. And that factory was actually established on purpose for Maserati. And everything else is made in Italy in the factories near Turin and Modena. Is not even comparable with a Chrysler or a Dodge, and only who owns it can judge it. 99% Maserati-Ferrari vehicle, full of personality and wonderful style.

  • @tlynnzx1a
    @tlynnzx1a Год назад

    You say one thing and then you contradict what you say right after it it's like the car sucks but it's really good but the car sucks make up your mind either it's good or it's not you can't go down the middle all the time

  • @saturnscore3059
    @saturnscore3059 5 лет назад +2

    Did this guy just say cloth? Omg if u gonna review a car at least do your homework. They are silk inserts which is called the zegna package. Also he seems to be spewing alot of the same rhetoric that other car reviewers are spewing( like that kia reference ) and when he was showing the buttons on the door and in the front he had the camera record from the rear not giving the viewer any chance to see what the hell he was talking about. This review could have done better.

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад

      We found that out and it was reflected in our written review.

  • @Natethegreat200c
    @Natethegreat200c 5 лет назад +2

    EXACLY who cares about parts sharing.if it works !

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад +1

      Yep, not a big complaint of ours.

    • @Natethegreat200c
      @Natethegreat200c 5 лет назад

      CarBuzz love it love it. A reviewer standing out from the crowd ! Everyone else cries about it.

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад

      @@Natethegreat200c we appreciate that!

    • @raymondnewbill5294
      @raymondnewbill5294 4 года назад +1

      If im spending 80k on a car. It better not come with switches and an infotainment system from a cheap van and jeep!!!

    • @travis6951
      @travis6951 4 года назад

      Raymond Newbill exactly!!!!

  • @dellclouds3090
    @dellclouds3090 5 лет назад +1

    I love Maseratis but I'd honestly buy a E Class over this

    • @carbuzzcom
      @carbuzzcom  5 лет назад

      You are allowed to prefer the E-Class. We like it as well!

    • @HooMeye
      @HooMeye 4 года назад +3

      I would too. A vitamin E class. Mercedes, the most ugly every day cars from Germany. Go ahead.

    • @jangpd2149
      @jangpd2149 2 года назад

      I got both of them actually E and Cyenne for my wife Ghibli and Ioniq5 for me.

    • @jangpd2149
      @jangpd2149 2 года назад

      And I prefer to ride R nineT over all of them :)

  • @MARIOvanispelen
    @MARIOvanispelen 3 месяца назад

    What kind of review is this don’t see the engine no revving

  • @carmelosaia1583
    @carmelosaia1583 2 года назад

    🔱❤️

  • @rital312
    @rital312 5 лет назад

    wtf are those ugly stiches on the steering wheel???

  • @Aurora_v_cali
    @Aurora_v_cali 5 лет назад

    anyone else hear that rattle in the interior

    • @JaredRosenholtz
      @JaredRosenholtz 5 лет назад +2

      There was no rattle on the interior that I noticed.

    • @Aurora_v_cali
      @Aurora_v_cali 5 лет назад

      Jared Rosenholtz 2:20 onward

    • @JaredRosenholtz
      @JaredRosenholtz 5 лет назад +3

      @@Aurora_v_cali I was in the car. I heard nothing.

    • @chiprock804
      @chiprock804 4 года назад +1

      yes, that guy keeps rattling on. :)

    • @HooMeye
      @HooMeye 4 года назад

      Was guy. Couldn't handle 400bhp.

  • @InteriorDesignAnderson
    @InteriorDesignAnderson 5 лет назад +2

    Geeeeeebleeeee ?!? ITS GHIBLI THERE ISNT EVEN AN E IN THE GOD DAMN NAME......

    • @Aurora_v_cali
      @Aurora_v_cali 5 лет назад +1

      people can talk anyway they want. your petty

    • @UKTonyMagill
      @UKTonyMagill 2 года назад

      @@Aurora_v_cali No they can't, unless they want to sound dumb. Also, it's "you're".

  • @robpz448
    @robpz448 4 года назад +1

    Trash car I'd rather rent an impala from enterprise

    • @HooMeye
      @HooMeye 4 года назад +2

      Go do that. Must make you happy. Can you afford it?

    • @SHADOWx472
      @SHADOWx472 4 года назад +4

      Slap yourself for comparing this fine piece of Italian engineering to a fucken impala👋🏽

    • @bohlalenchabeleng1370
      @bohlalenchabeleng1370 4 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 people are defensive. 🥂