Thank you so much for the replay and helping me make heads and tails of this motion, experts and arguments. Truly you are my go-to for all trials that you cover and you won me over during the Depp vs Heard trial and been a law nerd with this wonderful community!!!! You are a deadset LEGEND and much love and respect from Australia 🇦🇺🙏💙
When I had jury duty with the district court last year (population in the district is almost definitely larger than this one), I was one of about 55 people pulled for consideration for a civil trial. There were almost 1000 people called in that day. The other 945 got dismissed after lunch because the criminal case they were marked for ended up taking a plea agreement over lunch. I have no idea what case that even was. So to my inexperienced mind doesn't feel like 1,800 people is a wild amount for something like this.
This. I don't know how well you will respond to it, EDB. It's angering and frustrating and not quite murder of a child (not the fetus), but it is definitely heavy on the crimes against a kid.
I mean, it's definitely become *less* conservative over the last decade or so since the massive population boom started but yeah.. It's still Boise and still Idaho in general.
Replay crew! I can't help but think the minute they move the trial somewhere else the media storm will pick back up in whatever county they choose anyway making all of these survey results moot 🤷♀️
If I were JJ, I’d move it to one of the closer counties. Every county has similar levels of pre-judgement and media interest, but my deciding factor is the post-trial pressure that might be put on the jury. If you move it Nez Pierce, you are close enough for convenience and you remove some of the key factors like neighbor pressure, local knowledge of the house and law enforcement personnel. But compared to Nez Pierce, there’s no advantage to ADA in terms of pre-taint percentages.
Ada is 10x bigger by population with slightly more diversity and is urban by Idaho standards. Nez Perce is similar to Latah. Rural people seem to be a bit more trigger happy when it comes to the DP and have higher trust in police.
That's the kind of case she purposely avoids, and if you had any respect for EDB, you'd honor that. There's plenty of lawtube covering that case without trying to drag Emily into it.
Replay crew I just dont understand, with all the blah blah said, how changing the venue will change peoples minds. If it's broadcasted in anyway its out there, whether you're local or across the pond
There is an argument to be made for how excited the people are about this trial and how much information has been spread in the area. If you happened to be in the area, would you happen to hear about it by chance? Would you care more than other areas?
@@1nWaterBurning I would honestly say No. No matter where you go in Idaho, you're going to find people who feel closely connected to this case, bc alot of them attended U of I. I would say Especially in Boise. The Vandal alum is huge here. And info sharing has been spread universally throughout. But I do think neighbor pressure (or fear of retaliation or rejection after the trial is over) is definitely going to be a bigger factor in Moscow, simply bc it's a smaller town and the likelihood of running into someone you know or recognize is greater. But really you could go to any county outside of Moscow to reduce that potential issue. It'll likely be Ada though if the judge does agree to it.
Hi sorry my third comment on this video. To move this venue based on social psychology which is a flimsy science in the first place would be an absolute shame. (As a psych major)
Replay crew. Ada county has the largest U of I alumni in the state. Everyone in the state has heard/read/talked about this. Whether we wanted to or not.
I read local news for both this case and KR on a regular basis. I assume thousands are doing the same throughout the US. The stats guy had so many assumptions that I have to wonder whether the data is skewed despite his testimony. Also don't trust a person who keeps asserting that we trust the "simple math" when we are dealing with a subject that involves both human nature and global access to local news - which is all he examined since he didn't analyze sources with pay walls.
Ever since the Read Trail, I can't help but wonder how much things would have changed with a change of venue. The jurors literally feel unsafe in that case! So while I feel 300 miles is a little wild, I do think they need to move it to another county closer to the trial.
You make a valid point about the Read trial. It was def an example of jurors feeling unsafe and pressured from the family, friends and police staring down the jurors. It even seems that one of the police was stalking jurors and got one of them removed with no evidence etc
Emily! Replay crew member here. I am what I like to call a "recovering attorney" turned horticulturist - but used to practice criminal defense - including murder specifically. My hubby is a high up managing public defender in our state and regularly has high profile cases including murder. So we are both very familiar with making venue motions. Just wanted to note that at 47:25 you're discussing the reality of people who want to see the story and follow it, being likely to do so on the internet regardless of residency. For the purposes of the defense argument right at this juncture, (presuming I'm reading it correctly based on our lawyering experience) this area is more centered upon the average local media consumer that is NOT intentionally following this story or looking for information on this case. RATHER, it is regarding the likelihood of inadvertent exposure simply by participating in local news consumption for those who regularly participate on a generic level.
I just dont understand why they didn't send out Jurry questionnaires and see what came back. Of it was flooded with people who knew too much or were impartial then widened the net or move it. This process has taken up so much time and it might not even be fruitful, because honestly those numbers aren't a huge difference it's all very close.
Replay Crew here and I have to admit, the away the defense attorney questions drives me insane it makes me feel like she thinks I'm stupid and she has to hold my hand and it makes me like her less and less.
Replay crew but I have a major Q - did EDB have the video sped up while it was live? Just curious because Ann Taylor sounded like she was speaking SO slowly almost like she wasn’t talking to PhD’s but was speaking to a toddler. I hadn’t noticed this in prior hearings with her but it was just getting on my last nerve today.
Oh my god the Seth Kenny of it all: as soon as he took the stand! And then with all the boasting and the jokes not landing and all. I was like “IS that Seth Kenny?!”
My high school in Alaska goes to the Jazz festival every other year. I also have friends that live in a Idaho that i graduated with. I think the impact on the jury pool will be just as bad locally as another county.
Observing EBD's response to Eldeman highlights how emotions can distort information. She was so affected by his initial attitude that she overlooked the fact that he was discussing probabilities, not claiming that more information in a case always leads to a stronger belief in guilt.
Last week, I read local coverage from Boston while reading up on the latest in KR's case. I live almost 1,100 miles Southwest of Boston. I suspect that a deep dive into the a priori assumptions hidden in all this data would tear apart its credibility, though I am admittedly biased in believing that you should actually try to form a jury before relocating.
Replay crew. As a social science researcher I LOVED this. I know it's not your thing EDB, but what we do is real and important and backed by science. Dr. Dahir's testimony is addressing a lot of the critiques you had of the previous testimony. And double barreled means that Two questions have been rolled into one sentence, and that is bad methodology because the respondent is a only allowed to answer the two questions as one. An example would be "Yes or no, do you think kids should learn both civics AND science in school?"
I am a member that must listen. Only I drive a truck and I’m therefore not able to look at the close caption when you have it on fast speed. I cannot understand what they’re saying and this even worse when you comment over the top Thank you
I was wondering... (I hope this isn't a silly question...) Rather than moving the trial to a different county, could they get the jurors from a different county and move them to Moscow for the trial, sequester them somewhere during the week, allowing them to go home on the weekends... would that be easier and less expensive? I know it would be an imposition on the jurors, especially if they had children... but, idk, I'd like to hear your thoughts about that.
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I dont think this guy knows what he is talking about. The more knowledge someone has about a case they think the defendant is guilty. Um Sir, let me introduce you to Karen Read. Most of us watching this have a vast knowledge of that case and KNOW she is innocent. That statement was ludicrous. The more Ann Taylor speaks the more I dislike her.
I seriously doubt that the venue gets changed. I’m in the Philippines and a lot of people here know about the case. In order to get an impartial jury the trial needs to be moved to another Galaxy altogether.
We don't have a jury system where I'm from, but I have always found it odd that the ideal "jury" is a completely uninformed jury consisting only of people who don't even watch the news. Rarely do we ever otherwise want an uninformed person making important decisions.
It's a jury of peers. People "like" the individual on trial, rather than a "chosen few" empowered with the fate of people's lives. Power to the people. Our government works for us, not the other way around.
@@JanetSmith900 But if all people who watch the news and stay informed about what happens in their area are considered poor choices for jury duty due to possible bias - then it's not really your peers, it's a very specific kind of person isn't it? I guess I just don't quite understand how that selection doesn't cause major demographic issues that also lead to bias? For example, I would expect the demographic that won't watch the news (at least where I am located) to be less inclined to listen to expert witnesses + science based evidence and more likely to just decide on "feelings".
Replay crew here! I’m surprised Emily’s internet company doesn’t have someone watching her streams in real time to fix internet problems lol! There were good points on both sides here, this might be a difficult decision
I keep forgetting to ask, but what is the soundbite of "THE FBI!" from? Edit: the social psychologist's explaination for how you can love a song, but then end up hating it because it's connected to an unpleasant experience makes so much sense! I hate talking on the phone, and in the past I've ended up hating some amazing songs because I set them as my ringtone!
I'm on catchup replay crew but just got to the talk of state seals. If you do the passport option, you could do 'I was there' stickers to go in the passport 😁
I think to say ALL humans, and the citizens of this area, are incapable of keeping bias down and accepting new information when it comes to like, is an insult.
How brains work is not insulting though, everyone does this because otherwise we'd need to cart around our massive brains in wheelbarrows, these are cognitive short cuts.
So it's not just me then 😅 I'm listening and all I'm concluding is every trial should be by default moved to different county! Everyone are biased! No trial ever then was fair!?!? 🤦🏼♀️
I live 10 minutes outside of Moscow ,Id. Boise is fine with me, expensive, yes, but one less appeal. Daybells were tried there. Didn't work out for them. The only reason for trial in July 2025, because of it being a college small town, and no accommodations for media , etc. Personally, a stronger judge would be great.
According to the data, someone like me, shouldn't know much about this story. I am in Europe, English isn't even my native language. But seen every court hearing on this case....
Would you ever hire an assistant to be in court that you are covering for bits like this. So you have a direct person who is reliable to immediately find out what is going on in court etc..
I wish we knew what instructions - if any - were given to the survey correspondents before being asked to share what they know about the case. Do they know that the goal of the question is to figure out much they know? If not, I can see a lot of people assuming that the surveyors wouldn't want to hear a 2-minute explanation of everything they've learned, "what the media reported" is much easier and shorter to say. I know that if I was asked the question without understanding that goal, I'd probably say everything I could think of without really trying to wrack my memory. But if the goal is full knowledge, I would try much harder to remember as many details as I could.
These experts (I’m halfway through the second) explain thoroughly why I’m happy to live in a country that 1. does not publicize anything about a suspect beyond ‘this person has been arrested/is charged with/is standing trial for this crime, and 2. does not have jury trials. The average person on the street (me included) has almost no idea about anything related to law, law enforcement, or trial law. Let people who know the law and how it’s supposed to work judge whether the facts of the case prove someone’s guilt. Without the inherent bias of extensive media coverage, and the inability to counter their bias because they have to learn a new trade (law/jury) at the same time. Remove all possible political affiliations too. Law should have nothing to do with politics; don’t elect your judges. Same problem as with juries: the lay person has no idea who would be a good judge. And political affiliation should not influence outcomes of trials of law. When that’s done to the best of our abilities, there will still be plenty of bias left that judges will have to counter. Miscarriages of justice will still happen. But at least we’ve tried everything we can to hopefully prevent it.
Please cover the lawsuit alleging that the four executives that left Revlon and went to Give Back Beauty committed corporate espionage by stealing the trade secrets associated with Britney's Perfume brand.
i like the drilling down on the questions, i never know anyones name, but if you tell me the luxury prisons for rich people lady, i know exactly what that is. names to me, are like a random string of numbers, virtually impossible for me to memorise without arduous effort.
I always have a feeling that Ann Taylor starts off strong but then becomes too confrontational the longer her argument goes on. In this case it felt a bit like she was trying to have her cake and eat it too with the constitutional argument. Their own polling data shows similar or same levels of bias regardless of what county they go to and it didn't sit well with me that she tried to tell the judge not to consider other counties that they hadn't polled. In my thought process, the judge has to protect Kohberger's constitutional right to a fair trial above all else and if he decides that Laytah County is prejudiced against Kohberger, then surely all of the other counties which showed similar levels of prejudice are out as well?
When the truth doesn’t help your client, blame the people reporting the truth about your client because the truth doesn’t work in his favor? The truth being reported doesn’t allow for you to spin and manipulate? Ann saying this, on the record, isn’t for the judge. Spin, spin, spin….
I fundamentally don’t trust an expert who has theoretically reviewed an immense amount of local coverage but still can’t pronounce Moscow right. I live in the area and all my news comes from RUclips and there aren’t any Lawfluencers locally covering it except Andrea Burkhart 🤷🏻♀️ so almost none of my case coverage comes from anyone close to me. Theee experts sound so behind the tech.
It feels offensive for the victims' families to break this down to such a granular level... Like he's more of a victim than they were. I understand due process but it feels a bit indulgent? :/
@@joyousenofulI absolutely agree; in this particular example... It seems highly probable that he's guilty. I would be surprised if he wasn't convicted which is why I feel for the families
Was live for part 1, Replay crew for part 2. For me, he whole argument of he can't have a fair trial here because people know too much is, I don't know. With this logic, no trial could ever be held where the crime happened, especially if it's a small town. And them having this hearing will make people (and therefore potential jurors) talk and know even more, anywhere in Idaho. And people in Boise who didn't pay much attention to the case before may do so know because they have heard the trial may move there 🤔
2:27:41 Not sure what you're using but on Windows, could you turn on your Night Light mode and bump it up to reduce the eyeball/brain fry? Could you have it turned on for your screen but it appear without Night Light mode showing in the stream for viewers who prefer it au naturel b&w contrasty glory? (I'm kinda suspecting you can't, but I'll bet my shiny dollar that most of us won't mind and will actually appreciate it if you turned on Night Light mode cranked up to yellow as fuck, as I almost always have my laptop set to lol). Sensory processing and sensitivity is a bitch, but thank the digital heavens for dark mode becoming a normal thing now. Now I just need a cure for misophonia lol.
If i ended up on this jury id find it hard not to hold it against Ann Taylor alone to have to miss out on 4 months of work. She may need to seriously consider how many people are gonna be upset with her for putting on a trial.That's going to take four months. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely ridiculous. That she cannot defend him in a trial shorter than four months. If that's truly the case, then we definitely need to expect some mess and shadiness, because there's just no way.
You do know most of that time is actually for the prosecution’s case and their rebuttal right? The timeline is that long because they are trying FOUR murders with tons of evidence and witnesses. I believe this timeline includes the penalty phase as well (if found guilty) as it is a death penalty case. It has nothing to do with Ann Taylor. I don’t understand why you would think that it’s her fault?? Also everyone has the right to a fair trial which means they are entitled to a defense. It’s literally in our constitution. Do we really want to automatically start sending people to prison without a fair trial because Crystal doesn’t want to do jury duty?
@@emily4367💯 I just can’t with some of the comments. I hope I never have to be judged by a jury of my peers bc this case has shown me most are not critical or independent thinkers.
Replay crew, thanks for the chapters! It really helps me pick up where I left off
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@@vedjucate1103I ❤️ Yputoyr shorts
Thank you so much for the replay and helping me make heads and tails of this motion, experts and arguments. Truly you are my go-to for all trials that you cover and you won me over during the Depp vs Heard trial and been a law nerd with this wonderful community!!!! You are a deadset LEGEND and much love and respect from Australia 🇦🇺🙏💙
When I had jury duty with the district court last year (population in the district is almost definitely larger than this one), I was one of about 55 people pulled for consideration for a civil trial. There were almost 1000 people called in that day. The other 945 got dismissed after lunch because the criminal case they were marked for ended up taking a plea agreement over lunch. I have no idea what case that even was. So to my inexperienced mind doesn't feel like 1,800 people is a wild amount for something like this.
Thanks for this, Emily!❤
I find this whole thing just such a stretch the entire justice system is a game of social psychology and moving venues won't solve that
I miss Judge Newman and Judge A.
And Judge Audiobook from the Kouri Richins case.
judge A yes
newman was abit too slow for me.
@@samantham4351thats judge A xD
@@samantham4351 Judge Penny Azcarate is Judge A, Samantha.
About Sandra Birchmore. Kurt could't finished the files😢
Runkle almost lost it on stream and Peter and Big George got really emotional 😢
This. I don't know how well you will respond to it, EDB. It's angering and frustrating and not quite murder of a child (not the fetus), but it is definitely heavy on the crimes against a kid.
@xellosspoo then she wont cover it
she did say she wont cover heavy cases that involve kids. dont blame her.
@@inxineyes. It is hard. I was listening to it yesterday and had to stop. Too much.
It seems like the sort of case that Emily prefers not to cover.
@@bg6b7bft that is why I made this comment
"this is the magical question"
"what? huh? wat u mean? what are we even talking about?"
haha
Replay crew. I'm catching up quickly. Thank you Emily and Team Baker. 😊
I'm in Richland and that number of non recognition is BS! This is huge all over Washington and Idaho
I grew up in Boise. It was and still is very conservative. Also Ada county just gave Daybell the death penalty.. soooo
I mean, it's definitely become *less* conservative over the last decade or so since the massive population boom started but yeah.. It's still Boise and still Idaho in general.
@@blockhartinabox yep
Replay crew! I can't help but think the minute they move the trial somewhere else the media storm will pick back up in whatever county they choose anyway making all of these survey results moot 🤷♀️
If I were JJ, I’d move it to one of the closer counties. Every county has similar levels of pre-judgement and media interest, but my deciding factor is the post-trial pressure that might be put on the jury. If you move it Nez Pierce, you are close enough for convenience and you remove some of the key factors like neighbor pressure, local knowledge of the house and law enforcement personnel. But compared to Nez Pierce, there’s no advantage to ADA in terms of pre-taint percentages.
Ada is 10x bigger by population with slightly more diversity and is urban by Idaho standards. Nez Perce is similar to Latah. Rural people seem to be a bit more trigger happy when it comes to the DP and have higher trust in police.
I too have now dissociated from this testimony completely
Yes, Sandra Birchmore please. I know you are still reviewing it, but here's another "yes please." :)
Another yes please
That's the kind of case she purposely avoids, and if you had any respect for EDB, you'd honor that. There's plenty of lawtube covering that case without trying to drag Emily into it.
I had to catch the end for replay and George's tail was honestly the highlight after the testimony.... just floating randomly on screen
Replay crew I just dont understand, with all the blah blah said, how changing the venue will change peoples minds. If it's broadcasted in anyway its out there, whether you're local or across the pond
There is an argument to be made for how excited the people are about this trial and how much information has been spread in the area. If you happened to be in the area, would you happen to hear about it by chance? Would you care more than other areas?
@@1nWaterBurning I would honestly say No. No matter where you go in Idaho, you're going to find people who feel closely connected to this case, bc alot of them attended U of I. I would say Especially in Boise. The Vandal alum is huge here. And info sharing has been spread universally throughout.
But I do think neighbor pressure (or fear of retaliation or rejection after the trial is over) is definitely going to be a bigger factor in Moscow, simply bc it's a smaller town and the likelihood of running into someone you know or recognize is greater. But really you could go to any county outside of Moscow to reduce that potential issue. It'll likely be Ada though if the judge does agree to it.
Hi sorry my third comment on this video. To move this venue based on social psychology which is a flimsy science in the first place would be an absolute shame. (As a psych major)
"Santa is big mad" needs to be new merch 🤣
Replay crew. Ada county has the largest U of I alumni in the state. Everyone in the state has heard/read/talked about this. Whether we wanted to or not.
I'm in Oklahoma, and following this. How is anywhere in Idaho not biased?
I'm in California and same
I read local news for both this case and KR on a regular basis. I assume thousands are doing the same throughout the US. The stats guy had so many assumptions that I have to wonder whether the data is skewed despite his testimony. Also don't trust a person who keeps asserting that we trust the "simple math" when we are dealing with a subject that involves both human nature and global access to local news - which is all he examined since he didn't analyze sources with pay walls.
Ever since the Read Trail, I can't help but wonder how much things would have changed with a change of venue. The jurors literally feel unsafe in that case! So while I feel 300 miles is a little wild, I do think they need to move it to another county closer to the trial.
You make a valid point about the Read trial. It was def an example of jurors feeling unsafe and pressured from the family, friends and police staring down the jurors. It even seems that one of the police was stalking jurors and got one of them removed with no evidence etc
The judge was hit on. Lol. My doctor’s last name is Doctor. 😅
Emily! Replay crew member here. I am what I like to call a "recovering attorney" turned horticulturist - but used to practice criminal defense - including murder specifically. My hubby is a high up managing public defender in our state and regularly has high profile cases including murder. So we are both very familiar with making venue motions.
Just wanted to note that at 47:25 you're discussing the reality of people who want to see the story and follow it, being likely to do so on the internet regardless of residency. For the purposes of the defense argument right at this juncture, (presuming I'm reading it correctly based on our lawyering experience) this area is more centered upon the average local media consumer that is NOT intentionally following this story or looking for information on this case. RATHER, it is regarding the likelihood of inadvertent exposure simply by participating in local news consumption for those who regularly participate on a generic level.
I just dont understand why they didn't send out Jurry questionnaires and see what came back. Of it was flooded with people who knew too much or were impartial then widened the net or move it. This process has taken up so much time and it might not even be fruitful, because honestly those numbers aren't a huge difference it's all very close.
Important- reliability, validity of the results, questionnaire
Judge today announced change of venue granted.
Lol was that George? 😂
Replay Crew here and I have to admit, the away the defense attorney questions drives me insane it makes me feel like she thinks I'm stupid and she has to hold my hand and it makes me like her less and less.
Social psychology was my favorite psychology class
When you want to learn more about social psychology from this; but you can't focus on what's happening!🙃😂
Ding ding. Ding ding. Me: Bet that is someone born after 2000 texting so quickly in succession. Emily: my teen is texting me. 😂
Another 7 hours worth thousands of dollars of lawyers fees! Get to trial already!! If I m upset over this imagine the families 😔
Imagine the families after decades of appeals...
Replay crew but I have a major Q - did EDB have the video sped up while it was live? Just curious because Ann Taylor sounded like she was speaking SO slowly almost like she wasn’t talking to PhD’s but was speaking to a toddler. I hadn’t noticed this in prior hearings with her but it was just getting on my last nerve today.
Oh my god the Seth Kenny of it all: as soon as he took the stand! And then with all the boasting and the jokes not landing and all. I was like “IS that Seth Kenny?!”
I really dislike Edelman, he tries to appear chipper and charming
My high school in Alaska goes to the Jazz festival every other year. I also have friends that live in a Idaho that i graduated with. I think the impact on the jury pool will be just as bad locally as another county.
I truly admire the people
Who serve in a jury! I don’t know if I could be that impartial until the last day
So weird to see my town in the slideshow even though this happened down the road from me. I hope there is justice for all involved.
❤❤coverage!❕❕. You in This breakdown are appreciated!
Observing EBD's response to Eldeman highlights how emotions can distort information. She was so affected by his initial attitude that she overlooked the fact that he was discussing probabilities, not claiming that more information in a case always leads to a stronger belief in guilt.
Last week, I read local coverage from Boston while reading up on the latest in KR's case. I live almost 1,100 miles Southwest of Boston. I suspect that a deep dive into the a priori assumptions hidden in all this data would tear apart its credibility, though I am admittedly biased in believing that you should actually try to form a jury before relocating.
Replay crew. As a social science researcher I LOVED this. I know it's not your thing EDB, but what we do is real and important and backed by science. Dr. Dahir's testimony is addressing a lot of the critiques you had of the previous testimony. And double barreled means that Two questions have been rolled into one sentence, and that is bad methodology because the respondent is a only allowed to answer the two questions as one. An example would be "Yes or no, do you think kids should learn both civics AND science in school?"
Objection, compound 😂
@@katehandley9669 exactly!!! 💯
When EDB said she had 3 Stanley cups my brain farted to hockey. 🤔🤣
Replay crew. Sandra Birchmore please.😢
Wasn’t that ending of the Jinx taken out of context? I vaguely remember that.
I am a member that must listen. Only I drive a truck and I’m therefore not able to look at the close caption when you have it on fast speed. I cannot understand what they’re saying and this even worse when you comment over the top Thank you
I was wondering... (I hope this isn't a silly question...) Rather than moving the trial to a different county, could they get the jurors from a different county and move them to Moscow for the trial, sequester them somewhere during the week, allowing them to go home on the weekends... would that be easier and less expensive? I know it would be an imposition on the jurors, especially if they had children... but, idk, I'd like to hear your thoughts about that.
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I dont think this guy knows what he is talking about. The more knowledge someone has about a case they think the defendant is guilty. Um Sir, let me introduce you to Karen Read. Most of us watching this have a vast knowledge of that case and KNOW she is innocent. That statement was ludicrous. The more Ann Taylor speaks the more I dislike her.
I seriously doubt that the venue gets changed. I’m in the Philippines and a lot of people here know about the case. In order to get an impartial jury the trial needs to be moved to another Galaxy altogether.
The reality is 90+% of the population outside Idaho couldn't care less and are paying zero attention, so no.
Loving the love for the Idaho seal! I’m super biased but I think our seal is the best state seal
We got Dr. B and a kitty! :D
I live in NYC, and do not know particulars of this case. Lots of time researching election, and trying to make ends meet with high inflation
We don't have a jury system where I'm from, but I have always found it odd that the ideal "jury" is a completely uninformed jury consisting only of people who don't even watch the news. Rarely do we ever otherwise want an uninformed person making important decisions.
It's a jury of peers. People "like" the individual on trial, rather than a "chosen few" empowered with the fate of people's lives. Power to the people. Our government works for us, not the other way around.
@@JanetSmith900 But if all people who watch the news and stay informed about what happens in their area are considered poor choices for jury duty due to possible bias - then it's not really your peers, it's a very specific kind of person isn't it? I guess I just don't quite understand how that selection doesn't cause major demographic issues that also lead to bias? For example, I would expect the demographic that won't watch the news (at least where I am located) to be less inclined to listen to expert witnesses + science based evidence and more likely to just decide on "feelings".
@@sn0tpuppy347very interesting and valid points!
@@sn0tpuppy347 The concept of a jury predates the concept of television.
The first two hours could bave been 20 minutes. Omg.
Replay crew here! I’m surprised Emily’s internet company doesn’t have someone watching her streams in real time to fix internet problems lol! There were good points on both sides here, this might be a difficult decision
Judge Judge is gone??!!!!
I was born in a town of 12,633 that was small. We were 5 minutes from Wisconsin Dells so tons of vacationers in the summer
Murdaugh got a fair trial & his town was smaller
Did he though?
@@megpeter yes he did
@@EileenThompson-cq8nd Not really. Thanks Becky.
I keep forgetting to ask, but what is the soundbite of "THE FBI!" from?
Edit: the social psychologist's explaination for how you can love a song, but then end up hating it because it's connected to an unpleasant experience makes so much sense! I hate talking on the phone, and in the past I've ended up hating some amazing songs because I set them as my ringtone!
The Murdaugh Murders
I'm on catchup replay crew but just got to the talk of state seals. If you do the passport option, you could do 'I was there' stickers to go in the passport 😁
George at the end of the stream had me giggling 🤭
My love for Emily just grew a million times when I found out she used to watch the challenge 😂
I think to say ALL humans, and the citizens of this area, are incapable of keeping bias down and accepting new information when it comes to like, is an insult.
How brains work is not insulting though, everyone does this because otherwise we'd need to cart around our massive brains in wheelbarrows, these are cognitive short cuts.
Oof I am on the replay crew now! 😨
I find it interesting that yous say Ann Taylor is likeable. I disagree. But also I found Morissey likable sooo maybe I'm a bad judge
I'll join you in our bad takes 😂
I don't like either of them, though I do have tremendously more respect for AT.
To me moving the trial won’t help anyone but Ann Taylor. They will run into problems anywhere this case takes place.
Idaho itself is very small Boise and Ada county pretty invested.
3:02:58 not central, mountain time
I didn't realise i was tuning in to find a wholesale destruction of the very validity of jury trials 😂😂 Awkward.
So it's not just me then 😅
I'm listening and all I'm concluding is every trial should be by default moved to different county! Everyone are biased! No trial ever then was fair!?!? 🤦🏼♀️
I live 10 minutes outside of Moscow ,Id. Boise is fine with me, expensive, yes, but one less appeal. Daybells were tried there. Didn't work out for them. The only reason for trial in July 2025, because of it being a college small town, and no accommodations for media , etc. Personally, a stronger judge would be great.
According to the data, someone like me, shouldn't know much about this story. I am in Europe, English isn't even my native language. But seen every court hearing on this case....
He said spokane wrong
I didn't hear that, but definitely heard someone say Mos-cow instead of *Mos-coe, bc apparently we live in Russia
@@blockhartinabox The correct pronunciation is Mos-cow, not Mos-cow. LOL
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 😂😂 Damn you auto-correct! You betray me once again! 🤣
Would you ever hire an assistant to be in court that you are covering for bits like this. So you have a direct person who is reliable to immediately find out what is going on in court etc..
I wish we knew what instructions - if any - were given to the survey correspondents before being asked to share what they know about the case. Do they know that the goal of the question is to figure out much they know? If not, I can see a lot of people assuming that the surveyors wouldn't want to hear a 2-minute explanation of everything they've learned, "what the media reported" is much easier and shorter to say.
I know that if I was asked the question without understanding that goal, I'd probably say everything I could think of without really trying to wrack my memory. But if the goal is full knowledge, I would try much harder to remember as many details as I could.
But we are better than average, no!? !? I’m
Totally sure I’m a better driver than the average ! I’m in Florida- not that hard!
My replay video doesn’t have chapters. Is it just me?
Replay crew 💜💜💜
These “professionals” should learn how to create professional looking and effective presentation slides. I always cringe at the lack of visual care
Agree😢
These experts (I’m halfway through the second) explain thoroughly why I’m happy to live in a country that
1. does not publicize anything about a suspect beyond ‘this person has been arrested/is charged with/is standing trial for this crime, and
2. does not have jury trials.
The average person on the street (me included) has almost no idea about anything related to law, law enforcement, or trial law.
Let people who know the law and how it’s supposed to work judge whether the facts of the case prove someone’s guilt. Without the inherent bias of extensive media coverage, and the inability to counter their bias because they have to learn a new trade (law/jury) at the same time. Remove all possible political affiliations too. Law should have nothing to do with politics; don’t elect your judges. Same problem as with juries: the lay person has no idea who would be a good judge. And political affiliation should not influence outcomes of trials of law.
When that’s done to the best of our abilities, there will still be plenty of bias left that judges will have to counter. Miscarriages of justice will still happen. But at least we’ve tried everything we can to hopefully prevent it.
Omaha! Yay. I'm in Lincoln
Please cover the lawsuit alleging that the four executives that left Revlon and went to Give Back Beauty committed corporate espionage by stealing the trade secrets associated with Britney's Perfume brand.
i like the drilling down on the questions, i never know anyones name, but if you tell me the luxury prisons for rich people lady, i know exactly what that is. names to me, are like a random string of numbers, virtually impossible for me to memorise without arduous effort.
Oh I don't know if I can hang for Birchmore...
This part of the state is called the Idaho panhandle or North Idaho!! 😎🥔
Emily, could your and Dr B’s worlds combine if he turned expert dental witness?😮
He looks like Seth Kenney!😮
I always have a feeling that Ann Taylor starts off strong but then becomes too confrontational the longer her argument goes on. In this case it felt a bit like she was trying to have her cake and eat it too with the constitutional argument. Their own polling data shows similar or same levels of bias regardless of what county they go to and it didn't sit well with me that she tried to tell the judge not to consider other counties that they hadn't polled. In my thought process, the judge has to protect Kohberger's constitutional right to a fair trial above all else and if he decides that Laytah County is prejudiced against Kohberger, then surely all of the other counties which showed similar levels of prejudice are out as well?
Agree
Vader is also the dutch word for father
When the truth doesn’t help your client, blame the people reporting the truth about your client because the truth doesn’t work in his favor? The truth being reported doesn’t allow for you to spin and manipulate? Ann saying this, on the record, isn’t for the judge. Spin, spin, spin….
The reality is nobody knows the truth yet.
EDB……❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. 116, yesterday, 118 in your w.coast toasty!
I fundamentally don’t trust an expert who has theoretically reviewed an immense amount of local coverage but still can’t pronounce Moscow right.
I live in the area and all my news comes from RUclips and there aren’t any Lawfluencers locally covering it except Andrea Burkhart 🤷🏻♀️ so almost none of my case coverage comes from anyone close to me. Theee experts sound so behind the tech.
Thank you!
Right. The second I hear someone pronounce it like we live in Russia.. immediately discredited 😂
The whole country is vigorously invested! They’re not gonna find any place where the jury is not gonna be tainted!
It feels offensive for the victims' families to break this down to such a granular level... Like he's more of a victim than they were. I understand due process but it feels a bit indulgent? :/
I suppose if someone was innocent, they’d want this level of scrutiny at every stage
@@joyousenofulI absolutely agree; in this particular example... It seems highly probable that he's guilty. I would be surprised if he wasn't convicted which is why I feel for the families
Was live for part 1, Replay crew for part 2.
For me, he whole argument of he can't have a fair trial here because people know too much is, I don't know. With this logic, no trial could ever be held where the crime happened, especially if it's a small town. And them having this hearing will make people (and therefore potential jurors) talk and know even more, anywhere in Idaho. And people in Boise who didn't pay much attention to the case before may do so know because they have heard the trial may move there 🤔
2:27:41 Not sure what you're using but on Windows, could you turn on your Night Light mode and bump it up to reduce the eyeball/brain fry? Could you have it turned on for your screen but it appear without Night Light mode showing in the stream for viewers who prefer it au naturel b&w contrasty glory? (I'm kinda suspecting you can't, but I'll bet my shiny dollar that most of us won't mind and will actually appreciate it if you turned on Night Light mode cranked up to yellow as fuck, as I almost always have my laptop set to lol).
Sensory processing and sensitivity is a bitch, but thank the digital heavens for dark mode becoming a normal thing now. Now I just need a cure for misophonia lol.
I do think that a fair trail could be had in LC but I feel the trail would be better served in Boise for several reasons.
If i ended up on this jury id find it hard not to hold it against Ann Taylor alone to have to miss out on 4 months of work. She may need to seriously consider how many people are gonna be upset with her for putting on a trial.That's going to take four months. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely ridiculous. That she cannot defend him in a trial shorter than four months. If that's truly the case, then we definitely need to expect some mess and shadiness, because there's just no way.
You do know most of that time is actually for the prosecution’s case and their rebuttal right? The timeline is that long because they are trying FOUR murders with tons of evidence and witnesses. I believe this timeline includes the penalty phase as well (if found guilty) as it is a death penalty case. It has nothing to do with Ann Taylor. I don’t understand why you would think that it’s her fault??
Also everyone has the right to a fair trial which means they are entitled to a defense. It’s literally in our constitution. Do we really want to automatically start sending people to prison without a fair trial because Crystal doesn’t want to do jury duty?
Exactly, that’s a ridiculous time estimate
@@emily4367💯 I just can’t with some of the comments. I hope I never have to be judged by a jury of my peers bc this case has shown me most are not critical or independent thinkers.
Honorable J3 seems to be balancing how, possibly, future, I am also certain he probs wishes at times he had a pet brain 🐹 hamster.
If BK is found innocent after leaving court house would BK be entitled to protection until he would leave area?