about twenty something years ago, when I were a young boy, my father, sister and I bought a ticket at kidderminster and onto the platform just as the train was pulling off. My dad was trying to make us run down the platform, but we were only small. The guard then very kindly stopped the train and let us on even after departure.
This should not happen but it does from time to time. Years ago I got a Deltic stopped which I saw leaving Darlington. Good catch of an unusual incident
As a former train dispatcher who was at East Croydon , the nightmare is something becoming caught in the sensitive edge of a pair of door on a modern train , the person being dragged only at the mercy of some soul who acts quickly and pulls the emergency cord inside the carriage. There was a very sad incident up north many years ago whereby a young lady who was very intoxicated was leaning against the train talking to her mates who were inside , the tip was given by the dispatcher, train was not checked before departure and as the train moved off it rolled her so she fell in between two carriages as the train pulled away and cut her nicely in two . The family tried to sue the railway for manslaughter and negligence, but I believe the railway were cleared on the grounds that the young girl had broken the bylaws and conditions of carriage in that she was too intoxicated to be on railway premises. The dispatcher was sacked rightly so .
@@Richardsrailway No it was the guard on self despatch and he got 5 years jail. He went in the back cab and looked out the window. Had he stayed at the door as per the rule book the drunk girl would have been no less dead but he'd never had been able to see and would have gotten off.
@@oscarknight3588 to be fair the purple was done for the queens 70 th jubilee celebrations and the blacklivery is wartime livery and iuts better than harry potter red or that exp blue they simetimes use
@@garryvarley2800 Just because it was for the jubilee doesn't excuse how poor it looked- same as the harry potter red, what a cash grab. At least this was done as a what-if historical livery, rather than someone trying to make more profit off of their locomotive in disappointing ways.
@@oscarknight3588 Not everyone is looking for authenticity. I and lots of other people enjoy seeing the loco in different paint schemes as it gives you a unique feel each time. These locos have to make money to continue running and offering the same experience every time is a sure way to reduce income considering the majority of people that visit heritage railways are not hardcore rail enthusiasts, they're just families having a unique day out.
@@azzifyy5988 i never said authenticity was needed. I am all for an exciting livery- see bluebell on the Bluebell Railway, or the railway children pannier/green dragon/ any KWVR livery. Those all look exciting and interesting, while not being authentic in the slightest. It's the harry potter livery, and then this Jubilee one which upset me. If done properly a livery can look amazing, realistic or not, but these just didn't have the right execution.
Does it really matter what colour a loco is painted. It's only temporary and , after all, we should be so grateful we are able to see them at all. Heritage Railways have nowadays the need to use every trick in the book to attract new customers and to equally encourage them to return. This can be done by provided sonething novel even if it isn't to everyone's liking.
I was quite disappointed that Flying Scotsman was painted in wartime black for only just a short while before it was allowed on the rails. Whilst the build of the locomotive may have not been correct during the time it would have been in that livery, it would still have been nice to have kept that livery for a while longer.
@@BlueSpino4472locomotive owner or owning group should always make these decisions as they put the money into their engines. Trusting the general public with such decisions is courting disater. You only have to look at the intelligence of comments on you tube to find that out.
The platform staff who caused the incident, over reacted and stopped the train. He should have pointed out the slightly open door to the Guard, who could have walked through the train and closed it, whilst the train was leaving, as it was right next to him. No one would have any the wiser. If you are going to cause a incident, don't highlight it by making matters worse!
Surely the Guard would need to remain vigilant upon the whole train? Redirecting their whole attention to one door puts the rest of the train at risk. In turn, this subsequently leads to the possibility of a further incident, with a much higher severity. The platform staff in question performed the Emergency Stop procedure as they are trained to, and realistically caused a small delay of two minutes maximum, which can be caught up using lag time at intermediate stations.
@@Rail125 ah yeah I can see it now the door on one of the coaches wasn’t shut properly and I can see the guard on the platform putting both his hands up
Apologies wasn’t looking for click bait. You just don’t often see an emergency stop. Especially with a Steam Loco, these day. Emergency stop is what happened and I just tried to give the video a relevant title.
@@Rail125 It was an emergency stop so nothing wrong with your title. A bit like a video showing something unusual happening I put on not long ago and people said the same about mine.
@@cedarcam appreciate it, as I say. I’ve not seen an emergency stop happen nor heard of many on a regular basis (thankfully). The title of an Emergency Stop in capitals, I thought explained what is in the content 🤷🏼♂️
The steam you see when the train first starts is VERY necessary! When the locomotive is stopped for a certain period of time, steam condenses in the cylinders. If allowed to build up this will cause a hydraulic lock which is very damaging to the locomotive components. To prevent this, drain cocks are opened and some steam pressure is used to clear the build up of water,
Yuk, What have they done the this magnificent steam engine. It’s a re-built Bullied Pacific locomotive, and in its re-built form it was never ever painted black and never ever in Southern Railway ownership. If they can’t afford the lining at least paint it in plain Brunswick green.
It's due for overhaul at the end of this year, and it needed a repaint after last year's horrible experiment, so they decided on this as a shirt term measure rather than go to the expense of a full repaint in green
@@SBRailways1992 : I agree completely Stuart, and the owners of Taw Valley could paint it sky blue pink if they so wished, but as the Seven Valley Railway is a living railway museum, all locomotive running there should be painted as near as possible to authentic liveries for historic accuracy.
@@nielsleenknegt5839basically impossible to do on the mainline. Especially with central locking the train wouldn’t be able to move until doors are locked
What an absolute pantomime. Who was giving the right of way ie PIC of the platform Where and who was the train guard Too many platform staff all seem to be replicating each other yet ALL failing to check all the doors were closed “Platform staff” waving at people on the train which could be easily be misunderstood as giving RA hand signals to train crew.
Sorry SVR but I really don't like that Taw Valley livery. The loco only ever bore that number in it's original streamlined 'spam-can' state and never after it was rebuilt in 1957. The Southern numbers only ever existed on unrebuilt Pacifics so to have it now on a rebuilt loco is inappropriate. Not sure what the SVR were thinking.
OK, fair comment, it's subjective I know and it is their loco. I just thought that a heritage railway existed to portray and recreate scenes of the past rather than scenes that never were. Each to his own.
it's only a tempory guise as the loco's being pulled out of action towards the end of the year for an overhaul still better than the pin- i mean purple guise it wore last year
about twenty something years ago, when I were a young boy, my father, sister and I bought a ticket at kidderminster and onto the platform just as the train was pulling off. My dad was trying to make us run down the platform, but we were only small. The guard then very kindly stopped the train and let us on even after departure.
I miss the steam engines here. I'm surprised they didn't check the doors before departure. Nice video
Nice livery....who cares if its not 100% authentic, its still looks good!
This should not happen but it does from time to time. Years ago I got a Deltic stopped which I saw leaving Darlington. Good catch of an unusual incident
Never should happen if door checks are completed
Why did the train stop?
Never give the tip unless the stick is off , Time of departure is correct , All doors are closed , No door indicators are lit . Driver is ready .
And always have the whistle in yer gob or on a string around yer neck and not in your pocket !!!
As a former train dispatcher who was at East Croydon , the nightmare is something becoming caught in the sensitive edge of a pair of door on a modern train , the person being dragged only at the mercy of some soul who acts quickly and pulls the emergency cord inside the carriage.
There was a very sad incident up north many years ago whereby a young lady who was very intoxicated was leaning against the train talking to her mates who were inside , the tip was given by the dispatcher, train was not checked before departure and as the train moved off it rolled her so she fell in between two carriages as the train pulled away and cut her nicely in two . The family tried to sue the railway for manslaughter and negligence, but I believe the railway were cleared on the grounds that the young girl had broken the bylaws and conditions of carriage in that she was too intoxicated to be on railway premises. The dispatcher was sacked rightly so .
@@Richardsrailway No it was the guard on self despatch and he got 5 years jail. He went in the back cab and looked out the window. Had he stayed at the door as per the rule book the drunk girl would have been no less dead but he'd never had been able to see and would have gotten off.
@@markitg1972 apologies. Cheers Ta .
Great video
Same thing happened at GCR years ago on Deltic was on the train was on.
I saw Taw Valley on the West Somerset Railway a few weeks ago It did not look right painted black
looks better than that god awful purple
@@oscarknight3588 to be fair the purple was done for the queens 70 th jubilee celebrations and the blacklivery is wartime livery and iuts better than harry potter red or that exp blue they simetimes use
@@garryvarley2800 Just because it was for the jubilee doesn't excuse how poor it looked- same as the harry potter red, what a cash grab. At least this was done as a what-if historical livery, rather than someone trying to make more profit off of their locomotive in disappointing ways.
@@oscarknight3588 Not everyone is looking for authenticity. I and lots of other people enjoy seeing the loco in different paint schemes as it gives you a unique feel each time. These locos have to make money to continue running and offering the same experience every time is a sure way to reduce income considering the majority of people that visit heritage railways are not hardcore rail enthusiasts, they're just families having a unique day out.
@@azzifyy5988 i never said authenticity was needed. I am all for an exciting livery- see bluebell on the Bluebell Railway, or the railway children pannier/green dragon/ any KWVR livery. Those all look exciting and interesting, while not being authentic in the slightest. It's the harry potter livery, and then this Jubilee one which upset me. If done properly a livery can look amazing, realistic or not, but these just didn't have the right execution.
Does it really matter what colour a loco is painted. It's only temporary and , after all, we should be so grateful we are able to see them at all. Heritage Railways have nowadays the need to use every trick in the book to attract new customers and to equally encourage them to return. This can be done by provided sonething novel even if it isn't to everyone's liking.
I was quite disappointed that Flying Scotsman was painted in wartime black for only just a short while before it was allowed on the rails. Whilst the build of the locomotive may have not been correct during the time it would have been in that livery, it would still have been nice to have kept that livery for a while longer.
I personally think that the livery of a steam locomotive should be determined by a public poll
@@BlueSpino4472locomotive owner or owning group should always make these decisions as they put the money into their engines. Trusting the general public with such decisions is courting disater. You only have to look at the intelligence of comments on you tube to find that out.
Doors should of been checked before given the right of way.
Comments, everyone’s an expert! 🤣🤣
And SOMEONE had to complain about that...congrats!
The platform staff who caused the incident, over reacted and stopped the train. He should have pointed out the slightly open door to the Guard, who could have walked through the train and closed it, whilst the train was leaving, as it was right next to him. No one would have any the wiser. If you are going to cause a incident, don't highlight it by making matters worse!
Surely the Guard would need to remain vigilant upon the whole train? Redirecting their whole attention to one door puts the rest of the train at risk. In turn, this subsequently leads to the possibility of a further incident, with a much higher severity. The platform staff in question performed the Emergency Stop procedure as they are trained to, and realistically caused a small delay of two minutes maximum, which can be caught up using lag time at intermediate stations.
Country name??
Looked like a door wasn't shut properly in the maroon coach in the middle
Why did it stop all of a sudden was there something not right
can only assume it was a door not shut properly on the stock, noticed during departure
@@Rail125 so the door was not shutting properly
@@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 i am not 100% certain but that is what it looks like
@@Rail125 ah yeah I can see it now the door on one of the coaches wasn’t shut properly and I can see the guard on the platform putting both his hands up
I got one like that on video 2
Country name???
This is at the Severn Valley Railway in Worcestershire and Shropshire, England
That's interesting that they named a loco after a type of cheese!
And one is named after a lighthouse
The name comes from the river Taw in Devon. As a west country class loco you can guarantee the loco is named after a location in the west country.
@@azzifyy5988 Or cheese.
Nice shot of it pulling away but a bit click bait sticking emergency in block capitals without any explanation.
Apologies wasn’t looking for click bait. You just don’t often see an emergency stop. Especially with a Steam Loco, these day. Emergency stop is what happened and I just tried to give the video a relevant title.
Totally agree its a bit naughty that is
@@AdeTamiya289 apologies, I just tried to give the video a relevant title to the content provided.
@@Rail125 It was an emergency stop so nothing wrong with your title. A bit like a video showing something unusual happening I put on not long ago and people said the same about mine.
@@cedarcam appreciate it, as I say. I’ve not seen an emergency stop happen nor heard of many on a regular basis (thankfully). The title of an Emergency Stop in capitals, I thought explained what is in the content 🤷🏼♂️
Magnificent, but what a waste of heat going up in smoke and steam. 😂
🤣 was an impressive amount of steam when it came to a hault
I can’t left the guards van behind so that’s really important on SVR
💂🚐
The steam you see when the train first starts is VERY necessary! When the locomotive is stopped for a certain period of time, steam condenses in the cylinders. If allowed to build up this will cause a hydraulic lock which is very damaging to the locomotive components. To prevent this, drain cocks are opened and some steam pressure is used to clear the build up of water,
Yuk, What have they done the this magnificent steam engine. It’s a re-built Bullied Pacific locomotive, and in its re-built form it was never ever painted black and never ever in Southern Railway ownership. If they can’t afford the lining at least paint it in plain Brunswick green.
So what?! its not your loco. they can do what they like with them.
It looks a whole of a lot better than last year ... 🤮
It's due for overhaul at the end of this year, and it needed a repaint after last year's horrible experiment, so they decided on this as a shirt term measure rather than go to the expense of a full repaint in green
@@SBRailways1992 : I agree completely Stuart, and the owners of Taw Valley could paint it sky blue pink if they so wished, but as the Seven Valley Railway is a living railway museum, all locomotive running there should be painted as near as possible to authentic liveries for historic accuracy.
What was going on there then?
I think it must have been a door on the catch, or something along those lines
Passenger door not properly secured. Heritage railways have to be scrupulously careful regarding such matters ... and rightly so.
The platform staff are not checking doors before giving the tip to the guard (again)
@@rarerufus8864 I mean shouldn't that be railways in general? With some trains on the main lines going up to 125mph?
@@nielsleenknegt5839basically impossible to do on the mainline. Especially with central locking the train wouldn’t be able to move until doors are locked
What an absolute pantomime.
Who was giving the right of way ie PIC of the platform
Where and who was the train guard
Too many platform staff all seem to be replicating each other yet ALL failing to check all the doors were closed
“Platform staff” waving at people on the train which could be easily be misunderstood as giving RA hand signals to train crew.
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Will never happen where i volunteer as we walk the length of the train check every door before departure handle not straight train dose not depart
Sorry SVR but I really don't like that Taw Valley livery. The loco only ever bore that number in it's original streamlined 'spam-can' state and never after it was rebuilt in 1957. The Southern numbers only ever existed on unrebuilt Pacifics so to have it now on a rebuilt loco is inappropriate. Not sure what the SVR were thinking.
Does it matter if its in original state or not its there engine so leave them to it
It's preservation and nothing matters tbh
OK, fair comment, it's subjective I know and it is their loco. I just thought that a heritage railway existed to portray and recreate scenes of the past rather than scenes that never were. Each to his own.
@@rarerufus8864 understandable. Cheers.
it's only a tempory guise as the loco's being pulled out of action towards the end of the year for an overhaul
still better than the pin- i mean purple guise it wore last year