The differences are of course much more evident live, being able to hear and feel the sound and vibrations in the same room. Unfortunately though, we know that with these microphones this is the best we can get and that they all sound very similar (which again, is not the case in real life), however we decided to post it anyways so that you can be a part of it!
If someone wants to gift us more and better microphones or, why not, a recording studio we’d be happy to repeat the experience and record it again hahahaha 😋
Winner is the bogaro and clemente, cello sounds better and from the way he played, I can tell that he felt more comfortable to play on that endpin since he was playing much more in tune and relaxed. Thanks for the video ! Next time I’m in Cremona I’ll visit you :)
Now this is a cool video, I've been searching for stuff like this in the past. Must have taken ages to make :-P Of course it's difficult to hear as much of a difference as I know you can in the room. I find even the floor you're playing on makes a noticeable difference in person, but considering that, I believe I do hear a difference, at least between the materials. I'm definitely fan of carbon fiber, but this did reignite my interest in titanium endpins as well. I can't afford doing a test like this myself, but I'll certainly consider titanium for my upcoming Strad model cello, which I want to be mainly projecting and brilliant. One question I have though, is the endpin socket the same, and you're just changing the pin itself? What material is the socket in that case?
It is hard to hear a clear distinction between different endpins. It's nice that you provided physical information such as material, weight and found velocity! I wonder if you can compare the frequency distribution between different takes (averaged over the whole song) and draw more quantitative conclusions on differences? Maybe some type of material allows to project more bass or tremble? Or they damp resonance? Or move them? It would be great if you can perform such a comparison ! È stato molto interessante trovare questo video, bravi!
Thank you very much! Unfortunately it is very difficult to hear the differences! I think RUclips complresses the sound quite a lot and so I wanted to provide this extra information. I'm glad that you appreciated it and found it valuable. It could be an idea for the future! So thanks for the suggestion :)
Thank you very much this video! I was searching for this information long time ago. As Professional I’ve been using carbon fiber but lately I began to feel curiosity how my cello could ring with others one! Long time Ago a was using in my last cello titanium and I changed to carbon fiber! Now I have another cello I will try different end pins! Thank you for your video!
Thank you so much for your comment! I’m glad you found the video useful and informative. It’s always a nice and fun experiment playing with the different end pins and seeing what effect they make on the sound :)
Bravi, interessante video. Che microfono avete usato? Per questo tipo di test sarebbe sempre meglio indicare il tipo di attrezzatura usata per la registrazione, sia il microfono che il sistema di acquisizione dell'audio. Potresti aggiungerlo nella descrizione sotto al video.
Grazie! Ottima idea! Ho appena aggiunto la info nella descrizione. Fra un po' sicuramente rifaremmo la prova sull'ultimo violoncello che ha fatto Milos. Se vuoi ti facciamo sapere che dal vivo si sentono davvero tanto le differenze.
@@LucasFabro Quando rifate la prova fammelo sapere che mi piacerebbe assistere dal vivo, in effetti la qualità audio di youtube è piuttosto compressa e rende meno evidenti le differenze. Comunque scoltando in cuffia sono anche io d'accordo con le vostre conclusioni, la fibra di carbonio sembra quella che rende meglio con il tuo violoncello. Interessante anche il Mitsuke. PS: Non vedo le info nella descrizione, ma forse RUclips non ha ancora aggiornato.
Hi! Thanks for your comment! I’m leaving a link here where it’s around 360 dollars (300 euros circa). amzn.to/3lABh6W Then it really depends on where you’re based due to import tax and all that.
Grazie per il messaggio e scusa per il tempo che ci ho messo a rispondere. Di solito per un suono più chiuso si entende uno che non rimane nell'aria. Che "fa fatica" ad uscire ed allontanarsi dallo strumento. Mentre che focused è un suono molto "diretto"; quindi ha una direzzione molto "focallizata". A volte, sono quei strumenti che a se ti metti d'avvanti mentre li suonano sembra che ti spaccano le orecchie, però se ti menti di fianco, li senti molto più bassi o diversi. Un saluto!
Oh, for this cello in particular I ended up going for the Durod (although the carbon fibre ones were really really close so it was a very difficult choice), but it can really change from instrument to instrument so I always have to check :)
The differences are of course much more evident live, being able to hear and feel the sound and vibrations in the same room. Unfortunately though, we know that with these microphones this is the best we can get and that they all sound very similar (which again, is not the case in real life), however we decided to post it anyways so that you can be a part of it!
If someone wants to gift us more and better microphones or, why not, a recording studio we’d be happy to repeat the experience and record it again hahahaha 😋
Winner is the bogaro and clemente, cello sounds better and from the way he played, I can tell that he felt more comfortable to play on that endpin since he was playing much more in tune and relaxed. Thanks for the video ! Next time I’m in Cremona I’ll visit you :)
I don't really care if I can't hear much difference in the video, I really enjoyed just listening to the beautiful cello.
Thank you very much! Glad that you still enjoyed it :)
I didn't realize endpins could affect the sound! Really interesting.
Yes!! And it's really quite a big one when you get to hear it live!
Glad you found it interesting :)
Now this is a cool video, I've been searching for stuff like this in the past. Must have taken ages to make :-P
Of course it's difficult to hear as much of a difference as I know you can in the room. I find even the floor you're playing on makes a noticeable difference in person, but considering that, I believe I do hear a difference, at least between the materials.
I'm definitely fan of carbon fiber, but this did reignite my interest in titanium endpins as well. I can't afford doing a test like this myself, but I'll certainly consider titanium for my upcoming Strad model cello, which I want to be mainly projecting and brilliant.
One question I have though, is the endpin socket the same, and you're just changing the pin itself? What material is the socket in that case?
same question is the socket the same?
Mistuke and Bender brass win on recording.
I wasn't a fan of the brass one for this instrument (and for my own taste), but the Mitsueke one was lovely in every way!
Thanks you guys. It's all still very interesting.
Thank you very much for your comment and support!
very good ! Thanks.
Thank you very much!
Glad you liked it :)
It is hard to hear a clear distinction between different endpins. It's nice that you provided physical information such as material, weight and found velocity!
I wonder if you can compare the frequency distribution between different takes (averaged over the whole song) and draw more quantitative conclusions on differences? Maybe some type of material allows to project more bass or tremble? Or they damp resonance? Or move them? It would be great if you can perform such a comparison !
È stato molto interessante trovare questo video, bravi!
Thank you very much! Unfortunately it is very difficult to hear the differences! I think RUclips complresses the sound quite a lot and so I wanted to provide this extra information. I'm glad that you appreciated it and found it valuable.
It could be an idea for the future! So thanks for the suggestion :)
Thank you very much this video! I was searching for this information long time ago. As Professional I’ve been using carbon fiber but lately I began to feel curiosity how my cello could ring with others one! Long time Ago a was using in my last cello titanium and I changed to carbon fiber! Now I have another cello I will try different end pins! Thank you for your video!
Thank you so much for your comment! I’m glad you found the video useful and informative.
It’s always a nice and fun experiment playing with the different end pins and seeing what effect they make on the sound :)
Bravi, interessante video. Che microfono avete usato? Per questo tipo di test sarebbe sempre meglio indicare il tipo di attrezzatura usata per la registrazione, sia il microfono che il sistema di acquisizione dell'audio. Potresti aggiungerlo nella descrizione sotto al video.
Grazie! Ottima idea!
Ho appena aggiunto la info nella descrizione.
Fra un po' sicuramente rifaremmo la prova sull'ultimo violoncello che ha fatto Milos. Se vuoi ti facciamo sapere che dal vivo si sentono davvero tanto le differenze.
@@LucasFabro Quando rifate la prova fammelo sapere che mi piacerebbe assistere dal vivo, in effetti la qualità audio di youtube è piuttosto compressa e rende meno evidenti le differenze. Comunque scoltando in cuffia sono anche io d'accordo con le vostre conclusioni, la fibra di carbonio sembra quella che rende meglio con il tuo violoncello. Interessante anche il Mitsuke.
PS: Non vedo le info nella descrizione, ma forse RUclips non ha ancora aggiornato.
Where do you find a mitsuke endpin for 300?
Hi! Thanks for your comment!
I’m leaving a link here where it’s around 360 dollars (300 euros circa).
amzn.to/3lABh6W
Then it really depends on where you’re based due to import tax and all that.
Complimenti per il video.. Nello schema di sintesi cosa si intende per "closed"? In che modo è diverso da "focused"?
Grazie per il messaggio e scusa per il tempo che ci ho messo a rispondere. Di solito per un suono più chiuso si entende uno che non rimane nell'aria. Che "fa fatica" ad uscire ed allontanarsi dallo strumento. Mentre che focused è un suono molto "diretto"; quindi ha una direzzione molto "focallizata". A volte, sono quei strumenti che a se ti metti d'avvanti mentre li suonano sembra che ti spaccano le orecchie, però se ti menti di fianco, li senti molto più bassi o diversi.
Un saluto!
@@LucasFabro molto chiaro, grazie 1000
As an adult beginner with a very fussy and demanding ear, I really appreciate how you explained open, closed, and direct! It makes perfect sense. 🎉
@@gr8bskt thank you so much! Glad it was useful for you too :)
Which endpin is your pick?
Oh, for this cello in particular I ended up going for the Durod (although the carbon fibre ones were really really close so it was a very difficult choice), but it can really change from instrument to instrument so I always have to check :)
Thanks for the reply.
@@Sagecellist No probs :)
Qual é o nome da música?
It's Brahms cello sonata!