I can tell you that at least for me, as a spectator, it was really fun to watch. The units/RNG forcing players, especially experience/top player, to adapt and modify plans mid-game and on the fly is fun. I haven’t played it yet so not sure how it’ll feel as a player. I do agree that eventually stuff like this should be kept to a separate game mode like the “chaos mode” you mentioned. Except for the first round deployment limitation, that can stay in competitive play.
Tbh as a player, it is sometimes really stupid, Example: first my opponent was going for Fangs/sledgehammers, and then he pulls 3 lvl 3 Overlords outta nowhere
🤩 GG EZ xD. Man, I can only imagine the massive armies of free units that will be offered on rounds 12 or whatever. It really does feel like a "new" game. I think the repeatable cards are an amazing feature. The free units though seem to have the most fun factor in the early rounds. The large value of free stuff given in the later rounds though kind of destroys the feeling of actively building your board throughout the rounds. That said, it does have that cool factor with the added spectacle of more units, and it is rather interesting with just how diverse each match can be.
I share this sentiment and also keep hearing it from other players: First free units are nice, the later ones are too much. That is great! Because it indicates some sort of consent among players to a degree and it is something that the devs could easily adjust and I think that is what is going to happen. It is extremely chaotic right now, but I am confident that they CAN and that they hopefully WILL tune it to something that is actually both fun and competitive.
@@idlecub How do you feel about the fact mmr is only a placeholder at the moment anyway ? since its in beta right now I personally feel like this change is a lot of fun and doesnt bother me as theres no point to the mmr other than a rough gage of player skill. I mainly play 2v2 now days anyway and the change has made the game wayyyy less stale espically when playing with a friend, I understand why people may not like it for solos but seeing 9 squads of wasps picked by each player or 6 squads of stormcallers is never not funny. Feels like before it was the same gameplay every match atleast now people have to be better than turn 2 vulcan or crutch callers or whatever the current meta for the patch is but maybe thats just my opionion I guess.
this patch is one big vibe check and i for one love it and would be 100% for it been its own game mode Edit: Mustangs are pretty much required to have now lmao cause when i say the x8 wasps its a instant anti air and HE ammo tech xD
They need to change the free units. Getting 8 units of wasps in one round is way too much. I thought they were going to mix the free units with the cards each time, not have a separate selection every other round
Not feeling this patch. Kinda needs to be a new mode, but splitting the playerbase is a bad idea IMO. Adding units into the cards is a fun idea, but 8? Should be capped at 2 (1 for giants) and mixed in with all the other cards. So you could see +2 mustangs and also barrier item in the same draw. First impressions 2/10 patch.
I love this patch, it's fun. I can understand if you play very competitively that the random free units are a nightmare, but I love this. The random bunch of units, the cards and abilities that you can now select twice. It creates a more dynamic gameplay and when i'm playing, it feels i have to think less of what the current meta is. Also I played a lot of random 2v2's and dropped from 1600 to 1000 MMR. I stopped playing random 2v2's.
I think two things are clear: One, the devs really want you to look at the free unit options and predict what your opponent is going pick and counter that to outplay them. Two, 95% of the players aren’t good enough at the game to think this way and successfully enjoy it and will hate the change.
Been playing around with the update in survival, and it was hilarious from stacking Tech & Senior Defense specialists on Wraith + Scorpion (and 2 frontline Rhinos with Absorption Module and Super Heavy Armor). Felt virtually immortal. [Edit]: Specifically x3 Senior Defense and x3 Tech Specialist, as well as buying max defense on tower. Had access to Self-Repair tech on both Wraith and Scorpion, and the Wraith also had Armor tech.
btw those 4x lvl1 hackers - thats cheapest shield, 8x anything later in game is insane, because you have enough credits to do a lot of upgrades on units you didnt have
an auto chess game called Team Fight Tactics uses this mechanic. i think they are testing it for a game mode that would likely boost popularity among auto chess enjoyers. RNG is the name of the game and while it is beyond frustrating some games it is overwhelmingly enjoyable when it works...
They need a fiesta game type for stuff like this. That or have unranked with constantly changing crazy content and ranked with the normal fixed balancing.
I love the new update, its like a brand new game where u have to think more and adapt to what u could face. I see a couple comments criticizing, make sure to play a couple games before judging anything guys please
I guess he could have panic purchased a bunch of AA stangs but doing that on top of trying to come back from losing can be a big ask. Will be some fun/ infuriating games the next 3 weeks.
@@Gen0Granger09He shouldn't have sold the the mustangs he didn't need and were not helping his board in anticipation of his opponent randomly being able to slam 8 wasps down in one round? It's bad
Also without the free cards you have to deal with random opponent units each round, so the Mechabellum gameplay is not different than before. So probably just the amount needs to be adjusted.
Personally I feel like the game was better with less units. I really like the scorpion as a meme but I feel like the wraith and war factory units are just overkill and aren't really adding to the game.
I can tell you that at least for me, as a spectator, it was really fun to watch. The units/RNG forcing players, especially experience/top player, to adapt and modify plans mid-game and on the fly is fun. I haven’t played it yet so not sure how it’ll feel as a player.
I do agree that eventually stuff like this should be kept to a separate game mode like the “chaos mode” you mentioned. Except for the first round deployment limitation, that can stay in competitive play.
Tbh as a player, it is sometimes really stupid, Example: first my opponent was going for Fangs/sledgehammers, and then he pulls 3 lvl 3 Overlords outta nowhere
@QuirinMosca but you can see what they might get as well
There's a lot of valid criticism for the feature, but something interesting is that it also unlocks that unit for you to buy
🤩 GG EZ xD. Man, I can only imagine the massive armies of free units that will be offered on rounds 12 or whatever.
It really does feel like a "new" game. I think the repeatable cards are an amazing feature. The free units though seem to have the most fun factor in the early rounds. The large value of free stuff given in the later rounds though kind of destroys the feeling of actively building your board throughout the rounds. That said, it does have that cool factor with the added spectacle of more units, and it is rather interesting with just how diverse each match can be.
I share this sentiment and also keep hearing it from other players: First free units are nice, the later ones are too much.
That is great! Because it indicates some sort of consent among players to a degree and it is something that the devs could easily adjust and I think that is what is going to happen.
It is extremely chaotic right now, but I am confident that they CAN and that they hopefully WILL tune it to something that is actually both fun and competitive.
@@idlecub How do you feel about the fact mmr is only a placeholder at the moment anyway ? since its in beta right now I personally feel like this change is a lot of fun and doesnt bother me as theres no point to the mmr other than a rough gage of player skill.
I mainly play 2v2 now days anyway and the change has made the game wayyyy less stale espically when playing with a friend, I understand why people may not like it for solos but seeing 9 squads of wasps picked by each player or 6 squads of stormcallers is never not funny.
Feels like before it was the same gameplay every match atleast now people have to be better than turn 2 vulcan or crutch callers or whatever the current meta for the patch is but maybe thats just my opionion I guess.
this patch is one big vibe check and i for one love it and would be 100% for it been its own game mode
Edit: Mustangs are pretty much required to have now lmao cause when i say the x8 wasps its a instant anti air and HE ammo tech xD
Great content! Keep up the good work! Love to watch your videos!
I think the new update is great lol ive been really loving it, kinda reinvigorated my love for the game tbh
They need to change the free units. Getting 8 units of wasps in one round is way too much.
I thought they were going to mix the free units with the cards each time, not have a separate selection every other round
Not feeling this patch. Kinda needs to be a new mode, but splitting the playerbase is a bad idea IMO. Adding units into the cards is a fun idea, but 8? Should be capped at 2 (1 for giants) and mixed in with all the other cards. So you could see +2 mustangs and also barrier item in the same draw. First impressions 2/10 patch.
Yeah I'm taking a break until this is removed. OBVIOUSLY needs to be a separate game mode. Can't justify ladder until it's gone.
I love this patch, it's fun. I can understand if you play very competitively that the random free units are a nightmare, but I love this. The random bunch of units, the cards and abilities that you can now select twice. It creates a more dynamic gameplay and when i'm playing, it feels i have to think less of what the current meta is. Also I played a lot of random 2v2's and dropped from 1600 to 1000 MMR. I stopped playing random 2v2's.
What you're saying about 2v2 at the end of the video is spot on. If I didn't like playing 2v2 so much I would definitely have a higher MMR.
I think two things are clear: One, the devs really want you to look at the free unit options and predict what your opponent is going pick and counter that to outplay them. Two, 95% of the players aren’t good enough at the game to think this way and successfully enjoy it and will hate the change.
Each round deploy time should add 5 seconds per round.
Been playing around with the update in survival, and it was hilarious from stacking Tech & Senior Defense specialists on Wraith + Scorpion (and 2 frontline Rhinos with Absorption Module and Super Heavy Armor). Felt virtually immortal.
[Edit]: Specifically x3 Senior Defense and x3 Tech Specialist, as well as buying max defense on tower. Had access to Self-Repair tech on both Wraith and Scorpion, and the Wraith also had Armor tech.
That wasp call at the end was clutch 😂
btw those 4x lvl1 hackers - thats cheapest shield, 8x anything later in game is insane, because you have enough credits to do a lot of upgrades on units you didnt have
an auto chess game called Team Fight Tactics uses this mechanic. i think they are testing it for a game mode that would likely boost popularity among auto chess enjoyers. RNG is the name of the game and while it is beyond frustrating some games it is overwhelmingly enjoyable when it works...
Nice to see Armeria is back just like me.
Played a lot with him in beta.
They need a fiesta game type for stuff like this. That or have unranked with constantly changing crazy content and ranked with the normal fixed balancing.
I love the new update, its like a brand new game where u have to think more and adapt to what u could face. I see a couple comments criticizing, make sure to play a couple games before judging anything guys please
when i saw super heavy armor i thought for sure you would make that rhino a monster
I wonder do things like Improved/Mass Produced X stack? Can you end up with $400 Sledgehammers?
yes
That's a lot of beeeeees!
You see 8 wasps or 8 crawlers, chances are your oppononet will grab that.
i hate the random units. you just got 8 units of wasp to a field with limited anti air. how does a player answer that at all?
The only thing he had to do is NOT sell his mustangs.
I guess he could have panic purchased a bunch of AA stangs but doing that on top of trying to come back from losing can be a big ask. Will be some fun/ infuriating games the next 3 weeks.
@@Gen0Granger09He shouldn't have sold the the mustangs he didn't need and were not helping his board in anticipation of his opponent randomly being able to slam 8 wasps down in one round?
It's bad
each player gets the same choices, opp could have chosen wasps
Also without the free cards you have to deal with random opponent units each round, so the Mechabellum gameplay is not different than before.
So probably just the amount needs to be adjusted.
I decided to take a break until they fix this. I either win to easy right now or get defeated easily
8 x wasps, 8x sledgehammer? are you fucking kidding me? why do they even need to test this to see that that's a terrible idea
Frankly i dont mind the first random unit selection, adds a bit of variance.
But the 2nd and 3rd (and beyond that?) Its just clown fiesta.
Personally I feel like the game was better with less units. I really like the scorpion as a meme but I feel like the wraith and war factory units are just overkill and aren't really adding to the game.
This patch is probably the least amount of fun i’ve had with this game to date
The extra units are a mistake imo. Better to increase the range on the hackers.
This game is dead to me now. I’ll come back in a month and hope it goes back to normal. Stupid update by the devs
Random units ruins the game for me :(
War factory was dumb, this patch is dumber. Dont think the game can be saved this way.