I am planning to start a wood/fabric aircraft project later this year (Flitzer Z-2). Very informative and helpful, thanks for this invaluable insight into how to start.
It's nearly 2 years since this was posted which tells you a lot about homebuilding aircraft. We should be up to Part 10 by now and there's no sign of Part 2.
Wood is the best material for home builds,it is a friendly warm natural product,Fisher seems to have cornered the market in top quality Stitka spruce which apparently is in short supply. Vickers Armstrongs used geodetic structure on the Wellington which was designed by Barns Wallis of bouncing bomb fame and yes they would come back from raids and survive with the structure badly damaged,I have never seen a de Havilland machine with a geodetic structure ? A lovely build that should keep you busy for some time and you are very organised.
Awesome build! Great tip with the circular dowels, I haven't seen that before. I'm scratch building an RW6. Started off in January 2018 by building 22 wing ribs. Most of the wooden pieces are done, just the left wing to go. I'm also using T-88 glue, it's great stuff. Looking forward to more videos!
Very informative video, it just needed to be longer. I'm building a wood Zing from Simplex Aero, and I encourage more wood construction videos from the great Homebuilt Help company. People don't realize that wood is easy, and generally the least expensive way to build an airplane. If you do this (building) for fun, you can't beat wood.
Hihi, I love it with the Oratex the BetterAircraftFabric -EAA-Oshkosh Booth footage in this video!!! - Covering wooden airplanes in Oratex is as fast as it gets and way easy. Quicker than covering metal planes. I have a Jodel-Falconar F11A in the works, myself. As there is little time, who know when it will fly. Best Regards from Alaska! -See you in Oshkosh !!!
I've been watching your channel for a while, it really helps get my brain turning on new ideas. Thank you for making these! I had to comment, because Steve is wearing the same shirt I am right now 😂
But I'm building a wood-fabric airplane. Plans only, from Fisher, the Dakota Hawk. This Tiger Moth replica is a plane offered by Fisher Flying Products, either as a kit or just plans. There is also a Facebook page for Fisher Aircraft, flyers, and builders. "Back to Building."
@@grandenauto3214 Not too much. But I am in the middle of building my wing fuel tanks. When I get them done, or further along, I'll post to the various FB groups that I'm a part of.
I post regularly on my progress on the Facebook "Experimental Aircraft and Homebuilders" page. My initials are "J.P.", and I just made a new post moments ago. I also post on the Fisher Owners and Builders FB page. What plane are you building, Travis? A Fisher project?
FYI...Menards is importing Scots Pine in 2x4 and 2x6 construction stock from Ilim Timber from Germany. I have found many clear boards and even the knotted ones have short but long enough areas good for diagonals. It has tight growth rings. Ruptures at over 12,000 psi. Is 34lbs per cu ft. Some is a little resinous but per T-88 this should be sanded and wiped with lacquer thinner. My test glue ups all tore wood fiber...happy hunting!
Those who are building there planes, show us will ya!!! I am looking forward to seeing this plane getting built. What I want to know is how much? Useful load and powerplant
I’m just about done with my plans build all wood Fisher Horizon II. I’m down by Madison wi and if you want to do a vid I would love to be part of a wood build series. I love building with wood, I can work on it all night, come in the house and the wife does not say “what is that smell”! Fisher offers a great set of planes, I built a fisher 303 ultra light years ago when I was more ultra light size.
@@riedjacobsen8620 it has not flown yet, this fall is the plan. I have a Corvair engine that is built and is mounted on a mock-up mount to get the placement just right. the wings are ready to cover once I get the wing tanks installed. The fuselage is just about done and just needs the final landing gear to be finished. I know its not done but if your are in the Madison area I would be happy to show it off.
I need ur help. I was watching ur segment on Assembling a Stratus ADS-B receiver and I can't find it. Has it gone since it was back in 2015. Can u direct me to where it is now or has it been deleted?
Umm, Nooo..!!! Normal wood glue won't work...A plane in the air is constantly subjected to 5 to 6 times it's weight in the air... Normal wood glue can't hold up to that...Try it..Glue a 2x4 together with some TiteBond...Let it dry..Then stand on it...Watch it break under your weight...Just think if you used it in your homebuilt plane at 500-1000 ft in the air.... Cheers...!!!
There are some really "strong " wood glues out there. Many might not have enough give, bend but not break, to be suitable for aircraft use. Others may NOT stand up to years, decades of swings in humidity and temperature. Better to go with an aircraft epoxy, or a suitable resorcinal. If you're going to be puttering around around at several thousand feet!
DIDN'T REALLY SHOW A HUGE AMOUNT OF DETAIL.NEVER JUST PUT PART ONE.ALWAYS PUT PART ONE OF SIX,OR TEN ETC,PART TWO OF SEVEN ETC SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW HOW MANY OTHER PARTS ARE LEFT.NOT TOO BAD IF WE CAN FIND THE REST OF THE VIDEO.LOOKS PROMISING,IF WE CAN FIND IT!
haha i could invision some disappointed fases when someone bids ten grand for a wood plane on ebay and gets a wood plane for carpentry in the post haha
You just follow the full size representation of the pieces on the plans. All Fisher plans are similar in this respect. Not sure what the actual ratio is.
Good catch. It should be 8.2 degrees (the Arcsine of 1/7). I did not realize that Jon was going to make it into a tip when he visited brandishing a camera ;). I will have to think "video rampcheck" next time. Fisher provide really nice full size plans which make is more of an exercise in "replicate the drawn lines in the wood pieces" to get the fit right, so it was a case of fit rather than measure.
We out here in EAA Member-Land think the world of your YT channel. The unfortunate aspect of This, Specific Video is the Abysmal Sound Quality of the Audio. Please watch (and, more importantly, Listen To) Av Web channel (January 2017) in which he quotes Professional Videographer types as saying: Good Audio Makes Good Video ! There is a reason why tv late night talk shows have guests wear Enough said.
Anybody heard of the Spacek SD-1 Minisport wood kit? The main spars of the deriggable wings are carbon composite, but the rest is egg crate, foam and veneer. VERY popular in Europe. Lots of RUclips vids by Euro owners. Seems to an economical little gadabout. Here's a link to a YT tour of their old factory ==> ruclips.net/video/EI1bNcaxRrw/видео.html
It's about time somebody did something on building with wood, there are so many superior plans and kits out there !
I am planning to start a wood/fabric aircraft project later this year (Flitzer Z-2). Very informative and helpful, thanks for this invaluable insight into how to start.
It's nearly 2 years since this was posted which tells you a lot about homebuilding aircraft. We should be up to Part 10 by now and there's no sign of Part 2.
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Wood is the best material for home builds,it is a friendly warm natural product,Fisher seems to have cornered the market in top quality Stitka spruce which apparently is in short supply.
Vickers Armstrongs used geodetic structure on the Wellington which was designed by Barns Wallis of bouncing bomb fame and yes they would come back from raids and survive with the structure badly damaged,I have never seen a de Havilland machine with a geodetic structure ?
A lovely build that should keep you busy for some time and you are very organised.
Great video! Thanks.
Awesome build! Great tip with the circular dowels, I haven't seen that before. I'm scratch building an RW6. Started off in January 2018 by building 22 wing ribs. Most of the wooden pieces are done, just the left wing to go. I'm also using T-88 glue, it's great stuff. Looking forward to more videos!
Very informative video, it just needed to be longer. I'm building a wood Zing from Simplex Aero, and I encourage more wood construction videos from the great Homebuilt Help company. People don't realize that wood is easy, and generally the least expensive way to build an airplane. If you do this (building) for fun, you can't beat wood.
I am also building a Zing! Did you ever finish yours?
Hihi, I love it with the Oratex the BetterAircraftFabric -EAA-Oshkosh Booth footage in this video!!! - Covering wooden airplanes in Oratex is as fast as it gets and way easy. Quicker than covering metal planes. I have a Jodel-Falconar F11A in the works, myself. As there is little time, who know when it will fly. Best Regards from Alaska! -See you in Oshkosh !!!
I plan on using Oratex on my Fisher Dakota Hawk. Red and Silver . . Hi-oooooo. But I'm not sure what tools and supplies I'll need to get.
I've been watching your channel for a while, it really helps get my brain turning on new ideas. Thank you for making these! I had to comment, because Steve is wearing the same shirt I am right now 😂
It's a surprise to see you here!
@@charadremur333 Good to see you!
But I'm building a wood-fabric airplane. Plans only, from Fisher, the Dakota Hawk. This Tiger Moth replica is a plane offered by Fisher Flying Products, either as a kit or just plans. There is also a Facebook page for Fisher Aircraft, flyers, and builders. "Back to Building."
I just started my Dakota Hawk…. Do you have updates? Look up Sawyer’s dad Dakota Hawk on RUclips
@@grandenauto3214 Not too much. But I am in the middle of building my wing fuel tanks. When I get them done, or further along, I'll post to the various FB groups that I'm a part of.
I am building a Fisher Youngster V. There is to little RUclips building videos with wooden aircraft. Keep it coming.
Were is part 2?
Fantastic! Im building a wooden aircraft myself. (1 car garage build) Keep us updated!
I post regularly on my progress on the Facebook "Experimental Aircraft and Homebuilders" page. My initials are "J.P.", and I just made a new post moments ago. I also post on the Fisher Owners and Builders FB page.
What plane are you building, Travis? A Fisher project?
@@ioanekirarahu951 building a minimax! Gonna post video soon as i have time for progress and edit. Ill look for your project!
@@ioanekirarahu951 I’m just starting a Dakota Hawk
Nice!!!
I'd love to know where a Tiger Moth kit can be bought from.
FYI...Menards is importing Scots Pine in 2x4 and 2x6 construction stock from Ilim Timber from Germany. I have found many clear boards and even the knotted ones have short but long enough areas good for diagonals. It has tight growth rings. Ruptures at over 12,000 psi. Is 34lbs per cu ft. Some is a little resinous but per T-88 this should be sanded and wiped with lacquer thinner. My test glue ups all tore wood fiber...happy hunting!
34 lbs/ft3. Vs 27 lbs/ft3 Sitka Spruce. That’s a huge difference!
@@rjhinnj and? It's is comparable to Douglas fir in weight and charactoristics.
Love the bench cam vise thingamagiggy
Sorry thingamajiggy
I sure hope he finishes this bird...Many don't...
Those who are building there planes, show us will ya!!! I am looking forward to seeing this plane getting built. What I want to know is how much? Useful load and powerplant
I built a Fisher 404 some years back.
Beautiful planted
My understanding is that the terminal velocity of a Tiger Moth is less than VNE, so you can't break it!
Did Fischer take over after Ritz?
Clip-on microphone, for Professional Audio ! Quoting AV Web's Paul Bertorelli: "Good Audio makes Good Video."
That is so cool
I’m just about done with my plans build all wood Fisher Horizon II. I’m down by Madison wi and if you want to do a vid I would love to be part of a wood build series. I love building with wood, I can work on it all night, come in the house and the wife does not say “what is that smell”! Fisher offers a great set of planes, I built a fisher 303 ultra light years ago when I was more ultra light size.
Would love a close look at a completed Horizon 2. Has yours flown yet?
@@riedjacobsen8620 it has not flown yet, this fall is the plan. I have a Corvair engine that is built and is mounted on a mock-up mount to get the placement just right. the wings are ready to cover once I get the wing tanks installed. The fuselage is just about done and just needs the final landing gear to be finished. I know its not done but if your are in the Madison area I would be happy to show it off.
What is the smallest wood plane plans available? UL type. And the most aesthetically pleasing design.
Check out the Mini-Max 1030-F
"Invisible Gloves" are also good when ProSealing..... doesn't stick either. (I first started using them in 1968 doing fibreglas work)
Why not use balsa and monakote?
I need ur help. I was watching ur segment on Assembling a Stratus ADS-B receiver and I can't find it. Has it gone since it was back in 2015. Can u direct me to where it is now or has it been deleted?
Was your Red Card insert supposed to say "Keep Calm TILL it's finished"??
WHAT KIND IF VARNISH ARE YOU USING? THANKS
would it be okay to sue strong wood glue for this type of project?
Ok
No!
Umm, Nooo..!!! Normal wood glue won't work...A plane in the air is constantly subjected to 5 to 6 times it's weight in the air... Normal wood glue can't hold up to that...Try it..Glue a 2x4 together with some TiteBond...Let it dry..Then stand on it...Watch it break under your weight...Just think if you used it in your homebuilt plane at 500-1000 ft in the air.... Cheers...!!!
There are some really "strong " wood glues out there.
Many might not have enough give, bend but not break, to be suitable for aircraft use.
Others may NOT stand up to years, decades of swings in humidity and temperature.
Better to go with an aircraft epoxy, or a suitable resorcinal.
If you're going to be puttering around around at several thousand feet!
The narrator sounds exactly like Dan Johnson.
DIDN'T REALLY SHOW A HUGE AMOUNT OF DETAIL.NEVER JUST PUT PART ONE.ALWAYS PUT PART ONE OF SIX,OR TEN ETC,PART TWO OF SEVEN ETC SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW HOW MANY OTHER PARTS ARE LEFT.NOT TOO BAD IF WE CAN FIND THE REST OF THE VIDEO.LOOKS PROMISING,IF WE CAN FIND IT!
Why epoxy instead of wood glue?
It probably.makes it waterproof and stronger......
@@larrysouthern5098 yes and it also is lighter i believe
Never use invisible glove inside of gloves ...
It's a health risk .
Written about in Sail Magazine .
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟Very Neat
Surely a wood plane is something that planes wood.
haha i could invision some disappointed fases when someone bids ten grand for a wood plane on ebay and gets a wood plane for carpentry in the post haha
When did "Wooden" go out of fashion in the U.S.?
Love the project and one question? Is that 7 degrees or 7:1 on the splice?
You just follow the full size representation of the pieces on the plans. All Fisher plans are similar in this respect. Not sure what the actual ratio is.
Good catch. It should be 8.2 degrees (the Arcsine of 1/7). I did not realize that Jon was going to make it into a tip when he visited brandishing a camera ;). I will have to think "video rampcheck" next time. Fisher provide really nice full size plans which make is more of an exercise in "replicate the drawn lines in the wood pieces" to get the fit right, so it was a case of fit rather than measure.
Wow! I have the exact same NASA shirt. Just as worn. Unfortunately it looks just as bad on me.
[continuing with the previous comment] ...and hosts wearing ClipOn microphone apparatus.
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We out here in EAA Member-Land think the world of your YT channel. The unfortunate aspect of This, Specific Video is the Abysmal Sound Quality of the Audio. Please watch (and, more importantly, Listen To) Av Web channel (January 2017) in which he quotes Professional Videographer types as saying: Good Audio Makes Good Video ! There is a reason why tv late night talk shows have guests wear Enough said.
Anybody heard of the Spacek SD-1 Minisport wood kit? The main spars of the deriggable wings are carbon composite, but the rest is egg crate, foam and veneer. VERY popular in Europe. Lots of RUclips vids by Euro owners. Seems to an economical little gadabout. Here's a link to a YT tour of their old factory ==>
ruclips.net/video/EI1bNcaxRrw/видео.html
Nice!!