Well you always maxed E on lanes that won't let you farm Q (like kennen/teemo/riven/what have u). I think this was the trend ever since they made Corruption Potion, but similar things were practiced back in s1-2 before the soft rework. It was all over the guides back in the day.
Exactly it only costs 2200. That item is legit overtuned. I made 1500 gold with it in a 30 minute game. Global map pressure while making a lot of gold!
This is a great build for high elo players but for people still in low elo bronze-gold(ish) stick with the stack Nasus as your team is probably not good enough to recognize what you are doing
A lot of people see a person with mastery 7 on a champion and think o look that person must be trash then they see at 5 min into the game the team sees that the mastery 7 person already has 10 kills and 0 deaths from the enemy laner and say "having fun panth?" fun fact the enemy laner was supposed to be considered a hard counter to Pantheon. And the enemy laner was a Nautilus hell Amumu would have done better Not to brag or anything if someone picks a cho'gath a champ that hard counters Pantheon while i play Pantheon then as long as i face them in that lane and my team don't feed it which in solo queue you can't trust your team much then half of the time i will win that match up.
Namae Nai The average Ranked person is around silver even if they have not Ranked yet. And no people won't usually say it unless they see the Mastery 7 player doing bad and it is usually Ranked to where it is said though rarely said in normal games
Your videos are by far the most informative ever, I took your advice from your last video and I hit diamond on the last day and game of the season. Keep it up dong
so, in a way this is like proxy singed because you're applying so much pressure on the enemy team allowing your team to win the game. Could this be a new meta? these strategies tend to have high win rates
IF you W, E the enemy it deals a buttload of dmg. I made a teemo ragequit with this strat months ago :D. I dont claim to invent this, I just tried climbing with AP nasus, rushing tear / Protobelt
I've always had success with AP Nasus when I'm playing around in normals. This build takes the viable part of that idea and brings it forwards. That wave clear ability is INSANE, no joke. It just scales way too well if you max it first.
TheEarthdeity me too ive played it in mid and i gotta say it was broken as hell. i started corrupting pot and as soon as i got points on my e i could bully the enemy midlaner tfo
Actually it's not broken at all. Especially in this meta atm, all nasus has is wave clear. Mid is not an isolated lane like top and it needs more wards, so pushing all the time is not safe either. Nasus' E damage isn't that good, he doesn't have mobility, his roam is pretty shit and he has to rely on other people to hit their CC and so on. All he has going for him is that it's ahrd to siege against him. It's fun and really good for aram, but all popular mid picks bring much more to the table than him, so he's horrible for ranked games. He might seem broken in something like Plat(maybe not even that high) and below, but that's because people have no idea how to deal with him. If we're talking about the champion's actual strength and potential, he's pretty shit.
***** I'm totally fine with it but he didnt mention on the NA server. I only wanted to say that quas isnt the only one. To have more than 1 account in top10 you need to be really good and jizukèè doesnt get any recognition for this.
Nasus shreds the fuck out of armor though. His W will just shut someone down in a teamfight. He has his uses over singed. Also his Ult is like a Sunfire cape on mega steroids.
I really respect you for not trying to make a 10:30 video like Nightblue or all the others. The length was perfect and you didnt threw shit in just to make it past 10 min
yeah, but tankier earlier, can't run away as well, and takes turrets faster. plus wither is still huge in teamfights when you join them, so argueably stronger in teamfights
It's funny, I still main this variation of Nasus now, and am still tweaking it to make it more and more viable per season. Thank you for making Nasus more fun for me all those years ago.
quasis? have you never watched SirhcEz?! Guy has been doing this kind of things since Quas was a nobody in diaper league. Nothing new about it, you simply pressure. anyone who has actually watched nasus players knows that the King of Nasus is SirhcEz. Quas just a copy cat. Give credit where credit due mate.
SirhcEz is a low elo noname, unlike Quas top10 who's been in the scene since forever and was a regconizable toplaner in the LCS. fanboys must be quiet sometimes.
Ah see this explains what I was facing as Singed once, anyone playing this while I'm playing Singed is simply awesome, as opposed to them getting free stacks they are not doing anything except protecting their tower (if you proxy ofc) and since Nasus only has the slow and won't be doing much damage it would be fair to say proxy Singed is a good counter to this as it's very similar except that no one is pushing xD. It's sort of a fight fire with fire strategy.
I played as Q nasus against a singed with warlord lust and pretty much i could farm and sustain tanking the wave not missing a single cs and farming them all with Q, Thanks to that singed i oneshoted their vayne at the 20 minute mark with a 554 stacked Q. Lol
well as LutizzTV said by playing singed against nasus you give the nasus free q stacks. if quas would be playing against a singed that proxies he would happily go for 2 dorans blades instead of the rings and stack q in front of his tower while you are behind his tower. He'd just proxy in the middle of the lane, which is what all champs should do against proxy singed when they can afford to due to their inept lifesteal
Oh how I love playing GP against Singed/Nasus. Especially when they buy their ZZ'Rot and I get 6 gold per voidling, plus the cull and spellthief gold. Champs who proxy or constantly push but don't have any real kill potential are a wet dream for GP mains.
This is referred to as AP nasus and some of us have been using it for several seasons now. It isn't new. Its basically the go to build when something gets cheeky and tries to hard counter you in lane so you first blood them because they aren't building MR or expecting you not to try to stack.
im a main yasuo and my firts build is greaves then PD after that i got mallet then titanic hydra idont get lot of damage but i take all of the advantages
SooDoneWithYou With AP nasus you focus on maxing E and putting pressure to the lane, not focus on stacking Q. This is exactly like AP nasus except you build tank instead of AP.
wow, didn't know others were doing this, i've been playing kinda like that on nasus recently except no corrupting pot, 2 doran rings and i've been seriously raping my lane opponent every game, gotta admit i really enjoyed seeing a yasuo main tilt when i dived him and survived his ult and 7 turret hits... i got the idea when i saw ap nasus's E dmg in aram and seeing how he could spam it with a mana regen item... i just like going full tank on champs and since his q dmg grows by farming and his e basic dmg is already pretty high this is the ideal champion build for me.
I made an account with a Doge name originally intending to play warwick. But warwick became total garbage after season 2. So I picked up Nasus. Couldn't work out stack Nasus so I tried something very similar to this. Same problem. Elo hell yes. I eventually ranked that account up to low plat tho so maybe it's worth a shot again?
Stones I always would max different abilities depending on my lane opponent... Your Q not being maxed first isn't the end of the world for stack Nasus. I either max W or E first. Sometimes W to wackamole when my jungler comes. You can't flash far when you have a 99% slow.
There's a difference between sometimes doing it, and always doing it. Quas didn't think of the E max, he perfected lane pressure. He puts insane pressure on his lane while not dying to ganks.
Nasus main here. Consider getting Rylai's if you're maxing Spirit Fire first. I normally use that item to snowball fast. It works wonders for Nasus because it gives MAJOR cc, damage, and health. The AP damage is also converted into extra damage on turrets too. Stacked with swift boots, Stormriders Surge, wither, and possibly even an Iceborn for CDR/Damage no one gets away. It also gives you much needed CC for teamfights, since Nasus is normally really bad at team fights since he gets targeted so hard.
When you said quas is the only player in challenger who managed to get 2 spots on top 10, there is godbro and jiizukee on euw who both got top 10 on 2 accs...
theres also a point you forgot that makes q stack nasus bad: by the time you reached your stack goal and are a monster its not even garantueed that you get your dmg off since in teamfights you ll just be useless and get kited to death
Just tried this in a game against a swain and udyr splitpusher. Worked pretty well, even though I took the wrong masteries and runes. Took all 3 top towers, inhibs and managed to rotate through to win a fight right after a baron skirmish. And this was while my bot lane was 1/7 from frequent ganks. Eventually it turned around late mid game after they came after me so many times. Final score was 5/5/5, 256 CS and spent the least amount of time on either team dead with the highest cs. This sht works. Try it. Some more things to add is to play somewhat passive because it becomes difficult to trade against most champs when your E should be saved for clearing minion waves and takes obscene amounts of mana. Your Q should be used sparingly. Do NOT make the mistake of trying to get a corrupting pot in your first back unless you ABSOLUTELY need it or are dominating lane. You may feel a distinct lack of mana, but only until around level 7. And that is to be expected since your E takes 70 mana at rank 1 and 130 maxed out. Even if it gives you a little trading power, you will probably need to use your W to come out on top. Your sustain compared to usual nasus will be much weaker since you are not trying to stack and therefore get far less damage on your autos, and by extention, your lifesteal. It makes more sense to step back and just waveclear. They can't harrass you forever, unless they are ranged top (in which case you made a horrible mistake both picking nasus and trying this tactic in the first place) and just take opportunities to passively stack your Q. ...This is getting quite longwinded so I'll end it here. The rest can be figured out easily through normal gameplay. I picked it up within the first 12 minutes, so it shouldn't be too bad for anybody looking to play a larger role within the game.
Pretty much what ive said multiple times to people; Nasus doesnt need Q to be relevant. His w virtually removes 1 person from the teamfight, his E is a massive AoE armor shred in an AD heavy meta. Granted, i personally max W first then E, because i personally find W to be better for myself early and allows better ganks from my jungler and turns on the enemy when they come after me, but i can see E being useful as well. Q max just never should have been a thing. The damage doesnt go up a ton per point, and you generally rush CDR on Nasus anyway.
duo1666 Not maxing q is without a doubt still the best way to carry as nasus. I have been getting very fed almost every game since nasus patch now that i build talisman on him, gives you a lot of gold compared to what the opponents get if you're low elo especially (even more now that its gold cost decreased) Also if you dont max q, then even with 45% cdr the cd on your q is shit not to mention your sieging potential is greatly reduced. Most games as nasus once i get fed i just start pushing and sieging while the now useless top laner is trying to stop you but cant. Youre too tanky so they cant kill you, and your qs do 400 dmg to towers on a 2sec cd. This new nasus is rly only necessary diamond+ imo. I do agree with you on W though, I dont understand why most people max it last, i always max it second. Its the best slow in the game and makes enemy adc useless. Not to mention if youre stacking, its much easier to catch up and kill the enemy
Meteor Yeah, no. Your Q scales with level, with items, with CDR, and with last hits. It literally scales with everything else better than points you put into it. Your W and E, however, scale largely with points put into the skill (unless youre AP nasus). W and E gain much more power power per point than Q does.
"His w virtually removes 1 person from the teamfight, his E is a massive AoE armor shred in an AD heavy meta." Now you made me want to try out support Nasus
this was very insightful, I have been playing alot of Nasus since my start in S4 so I was immediately confused at the prospect of E Max 'lane pressure' Nasus. but your explanation and guide really helped me understand it all and I want to try it out for myself so thank you!
go check how much time the games normally take now (on high elo) also old nasus had an easy counter with cleanse item and some cc on top of him, "now" he can poke also i don't think you need to fall off with nasus, because he continues to scale (your jungle and enemy jungle. 10 stacks on golems only. the birds are also easy stacks.)
stack q nasus on gold or bronze is hard, because you don't know how to stack and people wants kills not objectives. in silver it works, since players are bad and never fell to bronze since season 2 (people that are in silver for 3+ years simply don't know how to play)
Great video Dong! I was actually thinking about making a video like this myself but I think you nailed it! One thing that might've been helpful to note is that E max scales of AP pretty nicely. Back when Runeglave was OP and mid laners took smite in season 5, Keane, the mid laner for Apex (Dignitas now) actually played quite a bit of AP Nasus maxing Spiritfire. It would chunk people for massive damage and quite unexpected. I don't think it worked out too well since it's a bit of a cheese pick, but b/c Quas goes two Dorans rings is where a lot of that early-mid powerspike that "Quasus" gets. Great video, earned my subscription! Keep up the good work :)
I was curious about how the Quas Nasus I heard about worked, what made it strong, and why it was better or worse than traditional Q Nasus. This video answered every question I had without wasting my time, I'm impressed.
King Remember that the stacks are not the only damage source of the attack. You also have your standard attack damage, which at the 20 minute mark should be about 100+, and also his Siphoning Strike has bonus damage, and then it applies the damage from the stacks. So at 550 stacks you can deal about 700 damage, and usually AD Carries have about 1900 HP in late game, so... deleted
King I was just breaking the math down for you man... and btw, one-shotting someone doesn't mean you crush them in one hit, it means you delete that someone before they have time to even react, for example a Rengar one-shot full combo, where you actually use at least 3 abilities + autoattack
I usually play AP Nasus. Looks a lot like this, except he's kinda off-tank because I buy roa, rylai's, lucidity boots, liandry's, rabadon's, and I think archangels's. It's been awhile. xP. The concept is the same, though: harass with e, f*ck stacks. It's just slightly harder to tank.
Jizukè, italian challenger, got two accounts into Euw top 10 challengers by the end of S6. I also remember somebody from the competitive scene making a twit about Jizukè farming medals.
So you mean to tell me that the very first Nasus tutorial that I found that was way back around season 2, is the most powerful build in all of the game and all of the newer ones are garbage?
No, the old one you found was good only if you are good. if you aren't, the new is for you. Bronze - Gold games last longer, sometimes even more than an hour, so stacking nasus wins there. In Plat + people know how to finish games, so farming ain't as sufficient and it is better to push and help everyone, not only yourself... I could be wrong trough, pls don't shit on me what is it in high ELO.
Hey, 2v1 Nasus as he was known of back in beta and preseason 1 before he really solidified his Q farming idea. This was mainly used when the enemy team wasn't running a jungler.
Noel Bertsch Either way he's pretty bad in this meta, plus as I climb elo my usual Nasus shenanigans stop carrying games since people stop being brain dead.
Its Mias Quasus is excellent in this meta, and that's what you're seeing in champion.gg. Classic stack nasus, on the other hand, is only good in low elo games if you're not damn good.
I've been playing Quas Nasus for over 2 years, even before this video. Early Quas Nasus pretty strong and safe (even potentially counter some lane Bullies), normally i would rush 2 Doran ring and finish Zz'Rot Portal as soon as possible (because Portal was really broken back then). But the problem of this build is i always get flamed by teammates for not farming Q and i don't have Triforce or Gauntlet (Mostly because they didn't realize that i took down 2 top towers or pressure enemy top laner), people used to see Nasus with 500 Q and no tower taken at 20mins, so a Nasus with 200 Q and 2 top towers taken can't convince them that the game is fine.
Enzo Sytrix Oh yeah I'm a big fan of AP Nasus. But even when I build him tank in those modes I'll max E first, the way I see it a big AOE with a debuff is much more useful for team fighting then a single target AA buff. I'm not maxing it for the pressure itngives when pushing a lane though, it is rare I push a lane as Nasus. I push when I back
Yeah, when I play Nasus the jungle always babysits me when I start to own their top at 150 stacks, and team does nothing with that time, doesnt get towers, dont get drakes, nothing.
My experience with Quas & Stack Q: Stack Q - Lose Lane, Win Late Game (75% win rate) Quas - Win Lane, Lose Late Game (50% win rate) What i'm trying to say is, with Stack Q, it makes it possible to carry your team 1v5. Atleast in low elo. (i'm silver II) With Quas, you're not as strong late game. So you might win lane, but you won't be able to 1v5.
Thanks for this guide, came here by Magikarpusedfly. I can appreciate your vigor, but I think the loud voice together with the bad micro is tough on the ears. Maybe talking a bit more normally rather than almost shouting would've been better. Also it's nice you went ahead and explained to people what this lane pressure Nasus is all about and why it's a good idea vs normal Nasus - but I would've liked to see runes/masteries at the start of the video since I already knew what the good points of the champ are.
Either play something that pushes just as hard and tell your jungler to ignore him top. If the game lasts long enough the build is useless even with triforce.
Actually: Get 20% or 30% scaling cdr on runes and the extra 5% passive and stormraiders. Armor pen reds just to be nasty. Max Q to decrease the CD, farm every single minion and monster you can from the start of the match and buy a Sheen or Ice gauntlet when you have enough gold. Im not saying that you are a "farm nasus", but when you have that gauntlet, Q's cd is almost the same as the Sheen passive allowing you to farm, push (and be a threat with the stacking mechanic) at the same time very fast. You can use TP on bot lane at min 15 with 150-200Q (i dont know im not a mathematician), get a double kill, get the tower, get the dragon. Run mid, kill the mid laner or make him recall and get the tower, recall and go top lane being strong as fuck and push until infinity. Just rush Gauntlet, zzrot and Titanic hydra and congratz, you won the game by yourself. The point is not farming like a little bitch without looking at the map, you have to farm while controlling your lane and a single TP to bot lane at min 10-15 can win you the entire game. A good TP gank on bot by nasus is extremely good because you surely kill someone with W and Q having such a low CD, the extra slow from Gauntlet helps too, you can farm a little while pushing and you get the turret very fast, then you can do the same on mid lane and get the dragon. Nasus'Q have an inmense power when you get CDR, you dont have to be a "farm nasus" because the more dominant you are, the more you can farm. Nasus' passive+CDR+Q's enchanced damage is enough to heal a lot in lane and never leave. E is good to use if the opponent wants to trade, just basic attacks and minion aggro will win the trade because you heal so fast when farming. The mana cost is SO HIGH on E that you cant spam it.
"new way" to play nasus like everyone who had been playing him like this for years until Quas started streaming it and then Dong Huap makes a video on it
In general nassus spikes his power more at mid game with this build and only suffers in the very late game, but also has advantages there with this build in reliability. Q nassus has a lot of issiues with kiteing where as this nassus has a more reliable application of his damage, shreds tanks, and still has a decent q that can hit a squishy for a good chunk should they venture in melle range.
So after the ranked season ended, I've been consistently against all plat and diamond teams, even had some streamers on my or the other team. But then I laned against Cheisu, a challenger, and I have to say there's a significant difference in lane pressure and mid to late fights. I've never lost lane so hard before lmao, I went 1-2 but the CS difference was so massive
i think the new version of nasus is gonna be somewhat useless in low elos because YOUR jungler will probs not take advantage of the situation the ENEMY top and jg are in (bc low elo and game knowledge ya kno). still a good video and its helpful, rlly good job
yea. Im currently gold 2 and i played nasusa bit when he was changed. I have quite a high mmr in normal games so I played against 3 platinu top laners and 2 gold 4 toplaners. I could notice how I had no chance to farm against the platinum toplaners. Every stack I got was punished super hard and there wre next to no openings to farm. Against the gold toplaners I still didnt win lane 8after alll I normally dotn play toplane) but I had no problem getting stacks and frming. Its such a high differenc. And if i comparethat to my games as a silver player this is nothing. Back then Id reach 400 stacks at 20 misn w/out even trying
Actually strongly suggest this be done as the support bot lane. Giving the enemy ADC -20 to -40 Armor is insane, coupled with the W. Ignore stacks focus on bullying enemy ADC.
If you are at low elo, I'd only recommend doing this if you are up against a riven, pantheon, or other early lane bullies. You should play stack q nasus against other matchups
idk what this means, when I play Nasus I bully the enemy Teemo out of lane that thought he could counter me, I max E first to poke him and start Doran's Ring, then proceed to build normally and stack Q until I become the unstoppable god and take down everything they own
Lol I've been playing Nasus like this since S3. This is nothing new, it's just that people thought it was a troll build of course until a pro validated the build, because everyone has to wait for a pro to validate a build before it stops being a troll build.
EXACTLY, thats how i see nasus, A PURE PUSHER, gg for this video iw as ages playing like this, and all flaming me about q stacking, lolong about 200at 30min etc etc, i love this i love that im not alone one who knows nauss much deeper
First: You said it very well, i mean the context of both Nasus and why actually LPN (Lane Pressure Nasus) is willing to won more games. Second: You forgot to said that in 6.21 i guess, nasus R does not give AD anymore, and it gives incressing Armor and Magic Resistance, something that "nerfed" AD/Q Nasus in certain ways. Third: RF Legendary is maxing Q at second and buying Trinity at 2ª item, wich let that LPN keep the damage source, and still being able to tank with the other full tank items, something like i really recommend to do. LPN is great, i used nasus since S1 literaly but to use him in medium-high elo is so punished, and to be able to use him again is something that really makes me feels good. I really recommend to use this nasus playstyle if you like to play with nasus as like me. Well i tryed my best with this language, cause' i speak Spanish jajaja.
I can see this build becoming VERY popular real soon. It's really good and rather easy to play. Though I'm not sure how frequent it'd be in lower ranks considering people don't understand how pressure works.
Watched Quas play Nasus vs Faker a few times and really loved seeing him play and pressure Faker hard from the top lane. Playing against this Nasus though is utter cancer. I've no clue how to play against it. His E base damage is seriously broken and because he goes double doran rings he won't go oom before you're already dead.
The thing is in lower elos people don't understand when to push. While playing this style against a Darius, I was way ahead (2 kills + 20 farm) until my bot lane gave two consecutive kills and I had their jungler and support up at top alongside their Darius. My bot lane didn't realize until I told them, and top lane got ripped apart by 3 people continuously pushing as I E'd every single minion wave and tried to hold until my lanes got their first turrets. TL;DR lower elo teams dont realize when to push even though their lane opponent is up top fighting nasus
I tried it in another game and this time against a Jayce and Zac. Zac obviously camped me and my team did good early game but got shit on late game by their Lux and Ezreal, who got fed as shit. We managed to take two barons thanks to our Yasuo not giving up and I pushed out 2 inhibitors, which led to us winning the game. TL;DR it works as long as your team does good early game and doesn't fuck up in team fights
The reason this build works better for high elo players is because Stack Q Nasus works best in late game where high elo games rarely get to. High elo is all about early and mid game.
Just faced that playing Riven vs Nasus. I was so surprised I didn't know how to react ; ended up in a farm war. Maxed e is pretty good for wave clear, but zoning as well.
GoldenSoooul I know, I play AP Nasus in Aram but on Summoner's I just didn't think it would work too well since the E has a rather lengthy cooldown so after you use E you aren't doing much damage or anything else. The way they are using him, he's still built like a tank but with Zz'rot he can bring down towers if no one stays up there to keep him from shoving into the tower which is still difficult since he'll just keep blowing up whole waves.
I can't stand Nasus players in my team because even in plat they just farm until 30, never ward, yet push and go 0-5. This video surprised me how relevant he can still be! I might try him out again. Thank you!
In certain matchups u can act like push late Nasus but still max q and get a bunch of stacks. Just act like push lane nasus with corrupting potion. worked for me agaisnt a Gnar
I have to say I was very hit and miss with the quality stack Nasus. sometimes I carried hard and I mean hard af. But when I lost it was so hard it was embarassing. I am currently on a 7 game win streak playing only zzrot, banner, full tank max e Nasus top lane. I kind of love it.
back in the day when i had no idea how to play, i always maxed e since i thought thats his main damage. now this is actually a thing, lmao.
Spri I did that with jinx and maxed champers rip
Spri it was always a thing , haven't you heard of Mid AP Nasus
Erez Amir lmao low elo
I maxed e on Akali in season 3 when I was new, then it became a thing for a short while
Well you always maxed E on lanes that won't let you farm Q (like kennen/teemo/riven/what have u). I think this was the trend ever since they made Corruption Potion, but similar things were practiced back in s1-2 before the soft rework. It was all over the guides back in the day.
Don't forget w max nasus where u beg for ganks xD
You're the biggest lifeless loser to have ever existed on League of Legends, stop fucking comment begging for attention on every single video I go to.
hey buddy we both know nothing you say here will change anything i do in the future right ?
true but you're just sad
shujaul Haque hey shut up, youmuus is actually doing something unlike your 12 year old self
Wait doesn't he make youtube videos? So why would he have any business in EVERY comments section when his vids give him attention?
For Quasus players: Now in S7 BUY Banner of Command first. It gives 400 Mana some MR ans Armor + 10% Cdr while having its previous passive!!!
It's also MUCH cheaper, and no longer gives the magic resist aura or health regen.
Exactly it only costs 2200. That item is legit overtuned. I made 1500 gold with it in a 30 minute game. Global map pressure while making a lot of gold!
60 armor > 30 mr
2Kaleb Banner is pretty garbage
Salty Lips only works well against AP tops
This is a great build for high elo players but for people still in low elo bronze-gold(ish) stick with the stack Nasus as your team is probably not good enough to recognize what you are doing
A lot of people see a person with mastery 7 on a champion and think o look that person must be trash then they see at 5 min into the game the team sees that the mastery 7 person already has 10 kills and 0 deaths from the enemy laner and say "having fun panth?" fun fact the enemy laner was supposed to be considered a hard counter to Pantheon.
And the enemy laner was a Nautilus hell Amumu would have done better Not to brag or anything if someone picks a cho'gath a champ that hard counters Pantheon while i play Pantheon then as long as i face them in that lane and my team don't feed it which in solo queue you can't trust your team much then half of the time i will win that match up.
"A lot of people see a person with mastery 7 on a champion and think o look that person must be trash"
When?
Namae Nai Low elo as in gold and below
And this is specific to ranked? I have yet to see anyone call any mastery 7 player trash since the system has been introduced.
Namae Nai The average Ranked person is around silver even if they have not Ranked yet.
And no people won't usually say it unless they see the Mastery 7 player doing bad
and it is usually Ranked to where it is said though rarely said in normal games
i went against this shit a couple of days ago. then i Uninstalled league.
lmao
I feel sorry for you.
i don't even bother climbing anymore im jus having fun by firstiming shits in ranked not in normlas cuz it's boring
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Play an unpopular version of Nasus and get 2 sick coats.
#JustLeagueThings ...?
he is getting 2 sick medallions
Your videos are by far the most informative ever, I took your advice from your last video and I hit diamond on the last day and game of the season. Keep it up dong
so, in a way this is like proxy singed because you're applying so much pressure on the enemy team allowing your team to win the game. Could this be a new meta? these strategies tend to have high win rates
maybe for solo q
Blake Umbers usually the team with the most lane pressure and wave clear wins high elo games.
IF you W, E the enemy it deals a buttload of dmg. I made a teemo ragequit with this strat months ago :D. I dont claim to invent this, I just tried climbing with AP nasus, rushing tear / Protobelt
hipster
Yeah, but proxy singed feeds a lot of the time. Nasus doesn't.
I've always had success with AP Nasus when I'm playing around in normals. This build takes the viable part of that idea and brings it forwards. That wave clear ability is INSANE, no joke. It just scales way too well if you max it first.
TheEarthdeity me too ive played it in mid and i gotta say it was broken as hell. i started corrupting pot and as soon as i got points on my e i could bully the enemy midlaner tfo
TheEarthdeity I remember playing it on URF and nearly getting cancer myself.
Grammar Nazi XD opop
Actually it's not broken at all. Especially in this meta atm, all nasus has is wave clear. Mid is not an isolated lane like top and it needs more wards, so pushing all the time is not safe either. Nasus' E damage isn't that good, he doesn't have mobility, his roam is pretty shit and he has to rely on other people to hit their CC and so on. All he has going for him is that it's ahrd to siege against him.
It's fun and really good for aram, but all popular mid picks bring much more to the table than him, so he's horrible for ranked games. He might seem broken in something like Plat(maybe not even that high) and below, but that's because people have no idea how to deal with him. If we're talking about the champion's actual strength and potential, he's pretty shit.
Tasos Kozi yeah but like akali, against those lower elo opponents he just dominates so hard
There's an EU player called Jizukèè he has 2 accounts in TOP4. Quas isnt the only one to have 2 accounts in top10
Perhaps he meant on the NA server
He just said that to show to his viewers how good quas's nasus is. There have been many people who had multiple accounts in high challenger.
***** I'm totally fine with it but he didnt mention on the NA server. I only wanted to say that quas isnt the only one. To have more than 1 account in top10 you need to be really good and jizukèè doesnt get any recognition for this.
MLG Hize
Well unless he's a streamer or a pro people usually ignore him.
Well he is the carry that got Team Forge (4G) into Challenger series, and almost got the LCS spot for his team. He is actually a pro.
Nice video Dong, please keep making these informative insight videos, short and easy to understand!
Can't wait for the next :D
You're honestly the funniest LoL RUclipsr! Your analogies and jokes get me everytime... Keep it up
i dont get it just play singed lmao same shit just 3 times better
Nasus shreds the fuck out of armor though. His W will just shut someone down in a teamfight. He has his uses over singed. Also his Ult is like a Sunfire cape on mega steroids.
Gage Wileman the slow part you were talking about is useles bcz singed with a relays can slow the hole enemy team
Doesn't slow attack speed and doesn't slow movement speed to 1%. The presence of the doge shuts an enemy adc out.
MingLee Wither lasts I think 5 seconds and yeah it pretty much negates movement as max level. An adc who can't move is a dead adc.
Does the doge have the swag laugh though? Nope, point for Singed.
I really respect you for not trying to make a 10:30 video like Nightblue or all the others. The length was perfect and you didnt threw shit in just to make it past 10 min
"I dont see the big deal stacking Q , it just gives little extra damage" - diamondprox season 3 LCS
the god himself
Probably advised by his timelord teammate.
I don't ever play league anymore yet still love watchin huap vids. It's just so entertaining and informative.
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This is the "Gates Nasus" that has been around for like a year now, played by Sirchez.
ZzRot portal rush, push lane,feed, win the game.
The only difference is, sirhcez* maxes Q first still. The build is similar, the playstyle is still different.
his speech is so pressured.....exhausted just listening to this guy.
if you want to tilt stack nasus just pick karma and shield a siege mid his q so that he misses the stack.
Easy tilt, easy win
so he is basically singed? drawing as much attention as possible, while pressuring the lane.
Yea but, with shittier scaling.
Guts Dovakjin but u dont need to poxy waves and feed enemys like many singeds
It's a singed for pussies : tankier and takes less risk.
yeah, but tankier earlier, can't run away as well, and takes turrets faster. plus wither is still huge in teamfights when you join them, so argueably stronger in teamfights
It's funny, I still main this variation of Nasus now, and am still tweaking it to make it more and more viable per season. Thank you for making Nasus more fun for me all those years ago.
quasis? have you never watched SirhcEz?! Guy has been doing this kind of things since Quas was a nobody in diaper league. Nothing new about it, you simply pressure. anyone who has actually watched nasus players knows that the King of Nasus is SirhcEz. Quas just a copy cat. Give credit where credit due mate.
Erik Pearson lol funny joke. Hardstuck diamond player > Quas
SirhcEz maxes Q, right? Quas maxes E, putting a different spin on Nasus than SirhcEz.
Sirhcez max e first
SirhcEz is a low elo noname, unlike Quas top10 who's been in the scene since forever and was a regconizable toplaner in the LCS. fanboys must be quiet sometimes.
Burns low elo????
You should be more popular I love videos like this keeps people more informed on what's going and explained everything very well!
DONG HUAP PUMP OUT MORE VIDEOS PLEASE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT QUALITY I CARE ABOUT YOU BEAUTIFUL FACE!
this was how I played nasus before I knew I was supposed to stack q
and I was successful lol
Ah see this explains what I was facing as Singed once, anyone playing this while I'm playing Singed is simply awesome, as opposed to them getting free stacks they are not doing anything except protecting their tower (if you proxy ofc) and since Nasus only has the slow and won't be doing much damage it would be fair to say proxy Singed is a good counter to this as it's very similar except that no one is pushing xD. It's sort of a fight fire with fire strategy.
I played as Q nasus against a singed with warlord lust and pretty much i could farm and sustain tanking the wave not missing a single cs and farming them all with Q, Thanks to that singed i oneshoted their vayne at the 20 minute mark with a 554 stacked Q. Lol
well as LutizzTV said by playing singed against nasus you give the nasus free q stacks.
if quas would be playing against a singed that proxies he would happily go for 2 dorans blades instead of the rings and stack q in front of his tower while you are behind his tower.
He'd just proxy in the middle of the lane, which is what all champs should do against proxy singed when they can afford to due to their inept lifesteal
LutizzTV
Oh how I love playing GP against Singed/Nasus. Especially when they buy their ZZ'Rot and I get 6 gold per voidling, plus the cull and spellthief gold. Champs who proxy or constantly push but don't have any real kill potential are a wet dream for GP mains.
This is referred to as AP nasus and some of us have been using it for several seasons now. It isn't new. Its basically the go to build when something gets cheeky and tries to hard counter you in lane so you first blood them because they aren't building MR or expecting you not to try to stack.
if you dont stack q you lose a part of nasus's kit
Same with when tank yasuo was a thing and he didnt build crit but was op.
they still bought phantom dancer (For damage reduction passive) which is %60 crit.
im a main yasuo and my firts build is greaves then PD
after that i got mallet then titanic hydra
idont get lot of damage but i take all of the advantages
Why go attack speed runes? If you're depending on E to clear waves and Q to stack, what does attack speed get you? Lifesteal?
So basically AP nasus but you dont build AP?
So not ap nasus, tank nasus and you max e. Completely different from ap nasus.
SooDoneWithYou With AP nasus you focus on maxing E and putting pressure to the lane, not focus on stacking Q. This is exactly like AP nasus except you build tank instead of AP.
Your E scale on AP yes but you don't need to build more ap to push the lane, so you just go full tank.
You want some potato with that roast?
weasel I'm just saying that saying AP Nasus implies that you know, he builds AP, which he doesn't.
omfg! jesus man the detail of this guide is insane! good job! subbed!!!
gotta admit .Try that quasus ,i got camp from first min then my team just falls a part and i lost
it happens when your mid and jungler are garbage and they don't take advantage of no jungler pressure.
thats why he said it's probably better to play normal nasus in lower elo
average moe BRONZE :DDDDDD
wow, didn't know others were doing this, i've been playing kinda like that on nasus recently except no corrupting pot, 2 doran rings and i've been seriously raping my lane opponent every game, gotta admit i really enjoyed seeing a yasuo main tilt when i dived him and survived his ult and 7 turret hits...
i got the idea when i saw ap nasus's E dmg in aram and seeing how he could spam it with a mana regen item...
i just like going full tank on champs and since his q dmg grows by farming and his e basic dmg is already pretty high this is the ideal champion build for me.
I made an account with a Doge name originally intending to play warwick. But warwick became total garbage after season 2. So I picked up Nasus. Couldn't work out stack Nasus so I tried something very similar to this. Same problem.
Elo hell yes.
I eventually ranked that account up to low plat tho so maybe it's worth a shot again?
people have been maxing e in hard matchups for ages .-.
Stones ikr...nothing new, I swear Trick2g did this mid season 5
Stones I always would max different abilities depending on my lane opponent...
Your Q not being maxed first isn't the end of the world for stack Nasus. I either max W or E first. Sometimes W to wackamole when my jungler comes. You can't flash far when you have a 99% slow.
There's a difference between sometimes doing it, and always doing it. Quas didn't think of the E max, he perfected lane pressure. He puts insane pressure on his lane while not dying to ganks.
lol thought my doggo gettin rework
Nasus main here. Consider getting Rylai's if you're maxing Spirit Fire first. I normally use that item to snowball fast. It works wonders for Nasus because it gives MAJOR cc, damage, and health. The AP damage is also converted into extra damage on turrets too. Stacked with swift boots, Stormriders Surge, wither, and possibly even an Iceborn for CDR/Damage no one gets away. It also gives you much needed CC for teamfights, since Nasus is normally really bad at team fights since he gets targeted so hard.
When you said quas is the only player in challenger who managed to get 2 spots on top 10, there is godbro and jiizukee on euw who both got top 10 on 2 accs...
Trump built a wall so they can't see what's going on in the EU as usual
lmao
In BR server Ayel got 2 acc at Top 2.
you think he went into every server to check the ladder? he was talking about NA obviously
Love your mic quality makes this so pleasant to listen to in the background!!!! +1
theres also a point you forgot that makes q stack nasus bad:
by the time you reached your stack goal and are a monster its not even garantueed that you get your dmg off since in teamfights you ll just be useless and get kited to death
Yeah, true. That's why you never teamfight as Nasus. You only splitpush. But that only works if the enemy team has bad rotations.
You dont get kited if you build him properly, Stormraiders and ghost are a must on nasus
Sylphix You definitely still get kited lol
If you're getting kited with Nasus late game you're playing him wrong.
Just tried this in a game against a swain and udyr splitpusher. Worked pretty well, even though I took the wrong masteries and runes. Took all 3 top towers, inhibs and managed to rotate through to win a fight right after a baron skirmish.
And this was while my bot lane was 1/7 from frequent ganks. Eventually it turned around late mid game after they came after me so many times.
Final score was 5/5/5, 256 CS and spent the least amount of time on either team dead with the highest cs.
This sht works. Try it.
Some more things to add is to play somewhat passive because it becomes difficult to trade against most champs when your E should be saved for clearing minion waves and takes obscene amounts of mana. Your Q should be used sparingly.
Do NOT make the mistake of trying to get a corrupting pot in your first back unless you ABSOLUTELY need it or are dominating lane. You may feel a distinct lack of mana, but only until around level 7. And that is to be expected since your E takes 70 mana at rank 1 and 130 maxed out.
Even if it gives you a little trading power, you will probably need to use your W to come out on top. Your sustain compared to usual nasus will be much weaker since you are not trying to stack and therefore get far less damage on your autos, and by extention, your lifesteal. It makes more sense to step back and just waveclear. They can't harrass you forever, unless they are ranged top (in which case you made a horrible mistake both picking nasus and trying this tactic in the first place) and just take opportunities to passively stack your Q.
...This is getting quite longwinded so I'll end it here. The rest can be figured out easily through normal gameplay. I picked it up within the first 12 minutes, so it shouldn't be too bad for anybody looking to play a larger role within the game.
Pretty much what ive said multiple times to people; Nasus doesnt need Q to be relevant. His w virtually removes 1 person from the teamfight, his E is a massive AoE armor shred in an AD heavy meta.
Granted, i personally max W first then E, because i personally find W to be better for myself early and allows better ganks from my jungler and turns on the enemy when they come after me, but i can see E being useful as well.
Q max just never should have been a thing. The damage doesnt go up a ton per point, and you generally rush CDR on Nasus anyway.
duo1666 Not maxing q is without a doubt still the best way to carry as nasus. I have been getting very fed almost every game since nasus patch now that i build talisman on him, gives you a lot of gold compared to what the opponents get if you're low elo especially (even more now that its gold cost decreased)
Also if you dont max q, then even with 45% cdr the cd on your q is shit not to mention your sieging potential is greatly reduced. Most games as nasus once i get fed i just start pushing and sieging while the now useless top laner is trying to stop you but cant. Youre too tanky so they cant kill you, and your qs do 400 dmg to towers on a 2sec cd. This new nasus is rly only necessary diamond+ imo.
I do agree with you on W though, I dont understand why most people max it last, i always max it second. Its the best slow in the game and makes enemy adc useless. Not to mention if youre stacking, its much easier to catch up and kill the enemy
It isn't actually the best slow in the game, Janna and Nami can reduce someone's movement speed to literally zero.
Thezanlynxer They dont reduce attack speed by 90%
Meteor Yeah, no. Your Q scales with level, with items, with CDR, and with last hits. It literally scales with everything else better than points you put into it. Your W and E, however, scale largely with points put into the skill (unless youre AP nasus).
W and E gain much more power power per point than Q does.
"His w virtually removes 1 person from the teamfight, his E is a massive AoE armor shred in an AD heavy meta." Now you made me want to try out support Nasus
this was very insightful, I have been playing alot of Nasus since my start in S4 so I was immediately confused at the prospect of E Max 'lane pressure' Nasus. but your explanation and guide really helped me understand it all and I want to try it out for myself so thank you!
So....instead of being a lategame threat, you hope to finish the game off early so you don't fall off...bloody weird, mate.
go check how much time the games normally take now (on high elo)
also old nasus had an easy counter with cleanse item and some cc on top of him, "now" he can poke
also i don't think you need to fall off with nasus, because he continues to scale (your jungle and enemy jungle. 10 stacks on golems only. the birds are also easy stacks.)
If ur low elo, Stack Q Nasus is better cuz the other laner won't punish you. The Quasus is for high elo, for players who know how to close out a game
stack q nasus on gold or bronze is hard, because you don't know how to stack and people wants kills not objectives.
in silver it works, since players are bad and never fell to bronze since season 2 (people that are in silver for 3+ years simply don't know how to play)
Tiago Rocha how do u mean this? it wouldve been better if they'd fall into bronze??
Basically just Nega-Nasus, really.
Great video Dong! I was actually thinking about making a video like this myself but I think you nailed it! One thing that might've been helpful to note is that E max scales of AP pretty nicely. Back when Runeglave was OP and mid laners took smite in season 5, Keane, the mid laner for Apex (Dignitas now) actually played quite a bit of AP Nasus maxing Spiritfire. It would chunk people for massive damage and quite unexpected. I don't think it worked out too well since it's a bit of a cheese pick, but b/c Quas goes two Dorans rings is where a lot of that early-mid powerspike that "Quasus" gets. Great video, earned my subscription! Keep up the good work :)
WoW i only played Quasus this whole time wtf i thought that it was the normal way to play him LOL
PollasEnVinagre :-D
yeah bc no1 gives a fuck if ur using the same thing but ur not climbing w/ it and ur in bronze V or some shit
Divised Silver 1 didn't mange Gold this season :-)
i was just using a example but still not a lot of people would copy a build off a silver 1 if you know what I mean
Divised Yes i understand completly it's all because of the fame and popularety( not sure if my grammar is ok so sorry).
I was curious about how the Quas Nasus I heard about worked, what made it strong, and why it was better or worse than traditional Q Nasus. This video answered every question I had without wasting my time, I'm impressed.
0:43 "You can one-shot those squishy carries with just one hit of your Q." Holy shit. You can one shot someone with just one hit?
Yes, if you farm and stack Q properly i did it once at the 20minute mark with a 554 stacked Q to a vayne.
Whoosh.
King Remember that the stacks are not the only damage source of the attack. You also have your standard attack damage, which at the 20 minute mark should be about 100+, and also his Siphoning Strike has bonus damage, and then it applies the damage from the stacks. So at 550 stacks you can deal about 700 damage, and usually AD Carries have about 1900 HP in late game, so... deleted
Protherus Dude, I get it. I was joking about the redundancy of uploader's sentence "One-shot ... with just one hit"
King I was just breaking the math down for you man... and btw, one-shotting someone doesn't mean you crush them in one hit, it means you delete that someone before they have time to even react, for example a Rengar one-shot full combo, where you actually use at least 3 abilities + autoattack
Sirchez has been doing this against teemo and pantheon for 3+ years. It's great to see a challenger pick it up.
I usually play AP Nasus. Looks a lot like this, except he's kinda off-tank because I buy roa, rylai's, lucidity boots, liandry's, rabadon's, and I think archangels's. It's been awhile. xP. The concept is the same, though: harass with e, f*ck stacks. It's just slightly harder to tank.
Jizukè, italian challenger, got two accounts into Euw top 10 challengers by the end of S6. I also remember somebody from the competitive scene making a twit about Jizukè farming medals.
So you mean to tell me that the very first Nasus tutorial that I found that was way back around season 2, is the most powerful build in all of the game and all of the newer ones are garbage?
No, the old one you found was good only if you are good. if you aren't, the new is for you. Bronze - Gold games last longer, sometimes even more than an hour, so stacking nasus wins there. In Plat + people know how to finish games, so farming ain't as sufficient and it is better to push and help everyone, not only yourself... I could be wrong trough, pls don't shit on me what is it in high ELO.
Hey, 2v1 Nasus as he was known of back in beta and preseason 1 before he really solidified his Q farming idea. This was mainly used when the enemy team wasn't running a jungler.
So he's basically Singed now. Good thing I stopped maining him recently.
Yamik its just a build so you can still do everything you did before
Noel Bertsch Either way he's pretty bad in this meta, plus as I climb elo my usual Nasus shenanigans stop carrying games since people stop being brain dead.
He's the second best top laner according to champion.gg
Its Mias Quasus is excellent in this meta, and that's what you're seeing in champion.gg. Classic stack nasus, on the other hand, is only good in low elo games if you're not damn good.
I remember when Nasus had a "pusher" tag. It was some years ago, and now he finally lives up to his original intent.
Why is he talking like it's a Motivation Video lmao
I've been playing Quas Nasus for over 2 years, even before this video. Early Quas Nasus pretty strong and safe (even potentially counter some lane Bullies), normally i would rush 2 Doran ring and finish Zz'Rot Portal as soon as possible (because Portal was really broken back then). But the problem of this build is i always get flamed by teammates for not farming Q and i don't have Triforce or Gauntlet (Mostly because they didn't realize that i took down 2 top towers or pressure enemy top laner), people used to see Nasus with 500 Q and no tower taken at 20mins, so a Nasus with 200 Q and 2 top towers taken can't convince them that the game is fine.
Why the fuck is this guy screaming.. relax.
He's not ?
Patrick Yeo???
he definetly speaks very loud
If anyone remembers the old Nasus builds used to max E first. It used to be the correct choice and "cooker cutter" option for him.
So I play him like ARAM or URF Nasus? Cool.
you dont go ap so no...unless you werent going ap in these modes (you rly should it soo fun!)
Enzo Sytrix Oh yeah I'm a big fan of AP Nasus. But even when I build him tank in those modes I'll max E first, the way I see it a big AOE with a debuff is much more useful for team fighting then a single target AA buff. I'm not maxing it for the pressure itngives when pushing a lane though, it is rare I push a lane as Nasus. I push when I back
Looking back on this, this was when Quas spammed Swain and Swain was a god. I miss Swain so much.
Yesterday i had to go against a nasus with 600 stacks. It was awfull. We still won doe ;)
CC works great against stack Q nasus
Love your videos Dong keep up the entertainment man
Yeah, this is good. Expect in low and mid elo where no people use the time you buy them to anything useful... Hate being a gold..
i know what do you mean and the worst thing is
"omg u only have 220 stacks u suck as nasus".
i find no word for this morons
Yeah, when I play Nasus the jungle always babysits me when I start to own their top at 150 stacks, and team does nothing with that time, doesnt get towers, dont get drakes, nothing.
Opa Pelailee Philippines?
Opa Pelailee Maybe your just shut
You're still gonna stack no matter what, so you can still be pretty spooky late game even if you max q second/third.
for s7 run cotc nas q is hard cc last i checked
there's no better CC than one shooting your opponent, am I right?
Anubis Lockward
thanks rito
I thought about this but he can't actually use it. His W(Wither) is a slow and cotc only procs with hard cc.
Mike Brown
a long time ago in patch notes his Q was counted as "hard cc", that's why i mention it
My experience with Quas & Stack Q:
Stack Q - Lose Lane, Win Late Game (75% win rate)
Quas - Win Lane, Lose Late Game (50% win rate)
What i'm trying to say is, with Stack Q, it makes it possible to carry your team 1v5. Atleast in low elo. (i'm silver II)
With Quas, you're not as strong late game. So you might win lane, but you won't be able to 1v5.
my brother kept playing ap nasus couple years ago is it any good?
In ARAM yes! =D
+Daniel Alejandro thx
Gameeer 124 Np
He's great vs immobile mages who can't get out of your e. But he falls off hard and it's hard to carry with
+Arsen john I played him once ap pretty funny when your against a teemo
Thanks for this guide, came here by Magikarpusedfly. I can appreciate your vigor, but I think the loud voice together with the bad micro is tough on the ears. Maybe talking a bit more normally rather than almost shouting would've been better. Also it's nice you went ahead and explained to people what this lane pressure Nasus is all about and why it's a good idea vs normal Nasus - but I would've liked to see runes/masteries at the start of the video since I already knew what the good points of the champ are.
i just got shit on by this, how do i deal with it?
play an adc top.. or gnar.
yeah play an adc top and get w'd to death rofl
Either play something that pushes just as hard and tell your jungler to ignore him top. If the game lasts long enough the build is useless even with triforce.
Manu B
well if you are not bronze, you can kick serious ass.
Petko Fuchalksi
you get one w and you're useless. So tell me more
Take a drink everytime you hear "This version of Nasus"
Actually: Get 20% or 30% scaling cdr on runes and the extra 5% passive and stormraiders. Armor pen reds just to be nasty. Max Q to decrease the CD, farm every single minion and monster you can from the start of the match and buy a Sheen or Ice gauntlet when you have enough gold.
Im not saying that you are a "farm nasus", but when you have that gauntlet, Q's cd is almost the same as the Sheen passive allowing you to farm, push (and be a threat with the stacking mechanic) at the same time very fast. You can use TP on bot lane at min 15 with 150-200Q (i dont know im not a mathematician), get a double kill, get the tower, get the dragon. Run mid, kill the mid laner or make him recall and get the tower, recall and go top lane being strong as fuck and push until infinity. Just rush Gauntlet, zzrot and Titanic hydra and congratz, you won the game by yourself.
The point is not farming like a little bitch without looking at the map, you have to farm while controlling your lane and a single TP to bot lane at min 10-15 can win you the entire game. A good TP gank on bot by nasus is extremely good because you surely kill someone with W and Q having such a low CD, the extra slow from Gauntlet helps too, you can farm a little while pushing and you get the turret very fast, then you can do the same on mid lane and get the dragon. Nasus'Q have an inmense power when you get CDR, you dont have to be a "farm nasus" because the more dominant you are, the more you can farm.
Nasus' passive+CDR+Q's enchanced damage is enough to heal a lot in lane and never leave. E is good to use if the opponent wants to trade, just basic attacks and minion aggro will win the trade because you heal so fast when farming. The mana cost is SO HIGH on E that you cant spam it.
"new way" to play nasus like everyone who had been playing him like this for years until Quas started streaming it and then Dong Huap makes a video on it
In general nassus spikes his power more at mid game with this build and only suffers in the very late game, but also has advantages there with this build in reliability. Q nassus has a lot of issiues with kiteing where as this nassus has a more reliable application of his damage, shreds tanks, and still has a decent q that can hit a squishy for a good chunk should they venture in melle range.
It should also be noted that in the current meta games very rarely make it into the late game. Which makes Nasus a handicap champion.
So after the ranked season ended, I've been consistently against all plat and diamond teams, even had some streamers on my or the other team. But then I laned against Cheisu, a challenger, and I have to say there's a significant difference in lane pressure and mid to late fights. I've never lost lane so hard before lmao, I went 1-2 but the CS difference was so massive
i think the new version of nasus is gonna be somewhat useless in low elos because YOUR jungler will probs not take advantage of the situation the ENEMY top and jg are in (bc low elo and game knowledge ya kno).
still a good video and its helpful, rlly good job
yea. Im currently gold 2 and i played nasusa bit when he was changed. I have quite a high mmr in normal games so I played against 3 platinu top laners and 2 gold 4 toplaners. I could notice how I had no chance to farm against the platinum toplaners. Every stack I got was punished super hard and there wre next to no openings to farm. Against the gold toplaners I still didnt win lane 8after alll I normally dotn play toplane) but I had no problem getting stacks and frming. Its such a high differenc. And if i comparethat to my games as a silver player this is nothing. Back then Id reach 400 stacks at 20 misn w/out even trying
Actually strongly suggest this be done as the support bot lane. Giving the enemy ADC -20 to -40 Armor is insane, coupled with the W. Ignore stacks focus on bullying enemy ADC.
If you are at low elo, I'd only recommend doing this if you are up against a riven, pantheon, or other early lane bullies. You should play stack q nasus against other matchups
idk what this means, when I play Nasus I bully the enemy Teemo out of lane that thought he could counter me, I max E first to poke him and start Doran's Ring, then proceed to build normally and stack Q until I become the unstoppable god and take down everything they own
Lol I've been playing Nasus like this since S3. This is nothing new, it's just that people thought it was a troll build of course until a pro validated the build, because everyone has to wait for a pro to validate a build before it stops being a troll build.
Of course you understand, that this build was made viable after R buffs? Before that, nasus was simply a shit tier champ.
Thanks For The Tips Man This Will Really Help..
EXACTLY, thats how i see nasus, A PURE PUSHER, gg for this video iw as ages playing like this, and all flaming me about q stacking, lolong about 200at 30min etc etc, i love this i love that im not alone one who knows nauss much deeper
First: You said it very well, i mean the context of both Nasus and why actually LPN (Lane Pressure Nasus) is willing to won more games.
Second: You forgot to said that in 6.21 i guess, nasus R does not give AD anymore, and it gives incressing Armor and Magic Resistance, something that "nerfed" AD/Q Nasus in certain ways.
Third: RF Legendary is maxing Q at second and buying Trinity at 2ª item, wich let that LPN keep the damage source, and still being able to tank with the other full tank items, something like i really recommend to do.
LPN is great, i used nasus since S1 literaly but to use him in medium-high elo is so punished, and to be able to use him again is something that really makes me feels good. I really recommend to use this nasus playstyle if you like to play with nasus as like me.
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Ayel had 1st and 2nd place in BR Challenger ladder if I remember it right. So Quas is not the only one.
I can see this build becoming VERY popular real soon. It's really good and rather easy to play. Though I'm not sure how frequent it'd be in lower ranks considering people don't understand how pressure works.
Watched Quas play Nasus vs Faker a few times and really loved seeing him play and pressure Faker hard from the top lane.
Playing against this Nasus though is utter cancer. I've no clue how to play against it. His E base damage is seriously broken and because he goes double doran rings he won't go oom before you're already dead.
The thing is in lower elos people don't understand when to push. While playing this style against a Darius, I was way ahead (2 kills + 20 farm) until my bot lane gave two consecutive kills and I had their jungler and support up at top alongside their Darius. My bot lane didn't realize until I told them, and top lane got ripped apart by 3 people continuously pushing as I E'd every single minion wave and tried to hold until my lanes got their first turrets.
TL;DR lower elo teams dont realize when to push even though their lane opponent is up top fighting nasus
I tried it in another game and this time against a Jayce and Zac. Zac obviously camped me and my team did good early game but got shit on late game by their Lux and Ezreal, who got fed as shit. We managed to take two barons thanks to our Yasuo not giving up and I pushed out 2 inhibitors, which led to us winning the game.
TL;DR it works as long as your team does good early game and doesn't fuck up in team fights
The reason this build works better for high elo players is because Stack Q Nasus works best in late game where high elo games rarely get to. High elo is all about early and mid game.
this nasus is so busted in S8 dude i love this
This is just AP Nasus. People have been doing this as a joke forever and it has always worked.
This got me to Plat 3... Dong Huap I wish you could see this message. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIPS
Jacuzi (an EuW player) reached the top10 challenger with 2 account and the third is in top20
Just faced that playing Riven vs Nasus. I was so surprised I didn't know how to react ; ended up in a farm war. Maxed e is pretty good for wave clear, but zoning as well.
Yeah we're gonna say goodbye to the recent buff on his ult
I thought about doing Spirit Fire Nasus before but never considered it viable til now. Definitely need to try this out, I miss playing the Doge.
Full ap nasus, his E actually does a shit ton of damage if you stay in the full duartion or have little magic resist
GoldenSoooul I know, I play AP Nasus in Aram but on Summoner's I just didn't think it would work too well since the E has a rather lengthy cooldown so after you use E you aren't doing much damage or anything else.
The way they are using him, he's still built like a tank but with Zz'rot he can bring down towers if no one stays up there to keep him from shoving into the tower which is still difficult since he'll just keep blowing up whole waves.
I can't stand Nasus players in my team because even in plat they just farm until 30, never ward, yet push and go 0-5. This video surprised me how relevant he can still be! I might try him out again. Thank you!
AWESOME VIDEO! I learned so much of this
In certain matchups u can act like push late Nasus but still max q and get a bunch of stacks. Just act like push lane nasus with corrupting potion. worked for me agaisnt a Gnar
nice to see nasus get a new lease life, but imo yorick does the same thing but does more damage late.
I have to say I was very hit and miss with the quality stack Nasus. sometimes I carried hard and I mean hard af. But when I lost it was so hard it was embarassing. I am currently on a 7 game win streak playing only zzrot, banner, full tank max e Nasus top lane. I kind of love it.