Would you consider doing a capture card roundup, where you basically summarize the most recent offerings in the capture card market and make recommendations?
Pay like $15 more right now and you can get the Avermedia Live Gamer Extreme 3, allowing for VRR, 4K30 recording with 4K60 passthrough and 1440p60 capture. It's worth paying a little extra to get so much more.
I would like more budget capture cards on the market. For now the only thing available is the Genki Shadowcast, and that has significant delay. No HDMI passthrough. It makes playing faster games and rhythm games very unfun. I want a budget card with passthrough so I can play with no delay, while streaming it to my friends so they can watch/know what I'm doing.
When is someone going to make a portable capture card that records to SD card or USB drive? LiveGamer Portable 2 is ancient now and because of that, its capture doesn't meet the quality standards of 1080p capture one would expect.
You threw a lot of numbers and specs I don't understand lol I'm looking to just capture some replay footage from Smash Bros to upload on here. Is this good enough for that? Or is there a better and cheaper option? I don't know what to buy really
Late-comer here: actually only 3~4 frames of lag to OBS preview? Is that with the included USB3.0 cable or is that USB-c to USB-C? I remember the Elgato Game Capture HD having about 1s delay to OBS preview
Included cable, C to C would be the same. The old GCHD and HD60 had multiple seconds of delay most of the time because they were sending pre-encoded video over USB 2.0 - a completely different world compared to their modern cards lol
@@EposVox Holy wow.... I guess other budget options might be better, but these are actually physically available where I am, so easier to return. Now I just need to find out if they work on Linux....
It'd be great to see a round up of all of the sub-50 USD capture cards and what their latency to OBS Preview is like. I wish there was info on why something like a Sunshine/Moonlight combo is so much faster latency-wise
Professor would you have any insight into when/if YT will allow AV1 HDR on RTMPS? So far so good with HEVC it is crisp and colorful but AV1 would be even better. thx!
do you have a video already about how to setup OBS for a 4k60 PCIE card? Looking to know the video settings what to have as main video encoding setting and the P1-P6 settings on what any of that means and what to use. I have a EVGA 3080 12GB GPU card with AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU with 32GB Ram running Windows 11
He released a video (or so) on OBS settings a while ago.Try search up "OBS best settings EposVox" and browse through. Idk if he covered these things in the same video but iirc I've seen him cover capture card settings, presets, mic settings, just the basics What were u planning to stream through the card? (4070S better tho lol)
In a previous video you said you were coming out with a video with a new way to play your video games instead of using obs preview. Have you released that info yet or plan to?
@@EposVox Oh huh! The very snappy movement is what fooled me, haha. It reminded me of when I tested Crash 2 on PS3 digitally where you can't properly activate the analog controls (because it's expecting the Dual Analog controller). Strangely, it does work when you're using a disc!
how does this work with older Retrotink like 2x-multi? I remember previous iterations of the elgato cards not being really friendly with retrotink at all. I have a HD60 S and it would have give me alot of issues and had to eventually move on from it
The NZXT HD60? Go for it. 35ish ms of latency means single player games and some online ones can be played on PC. And with content at 1080p60 recording & streaming, ur really not going wrong. Just make sure ur PC meets the required specs of the HD60 :)
I just want something that will work with my m1 imac and nintendo switch. Will this work. I don't use my voice. I just want to record switch game play.
I had the HD60s back when starting out on RUclips. Creating gameplay videos, I had the most difficult time setting it up, the usb 3.0 wouldn't even be detected. Horrible first impressions of game capture for elgato. Has this changed since 2014? Anybody? Also, is 60fps the best by default for gameplay videos / Walkthoughs?
I never had those issues, last time I had that kind of issue was like 5+ years before that on old AMD FX builds. And yes, 60fps is the standard for gaming videos
@@EposVox Yeah, I was on an Alienware Desktop & the USB 3.0 wasn't even being detected. Terrible first impressions. I was very disappointed, yet, I fucking love Elgato Products. Have a Stream deck, I use it non-stop, it's so fun!!! Thinking of also getting the new HD60S+ I think that's what it's called?
hello will this work with intel i3 6 gen + intel hd 520 ? i want to do Benchmarked video on my intel hd 520 graphics card & also for rtx 2060 ? will this record in 720p for intel hd 520 & 1080p / 60fps for rtx 2060 ?
i only want this for Benchmark purpose ? 720p/30/60fps & 1080p/30/60fps and i don't want any stutter & audio issue in my recording will this work or should i buy elgato hd 60 x ?
Can I have multiple Neos connected on the same system? I'm looking for a solution to do live multicam out to youtube via a Macbook Pro and OBS. I need 3 HDMI inputs, Cam A, Cam B, and feed from a presentation laptop (zoom/ppt/whatever). Right now I'm using some generic hdmi usb capture dongles, they work ok, but occasionally I'll see a scan line where they look like they are struggling to keep up. I'm looking for something possibly a little more robust. I don't want one device that does the switching on hardware, I want to stick with OBS for that, so independent inputs is what I'm looking for. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
@@EposVox I have an ATEM mini ISO, it works if I use it stand alone. But if I want to have 4 individual inputs in OBS, it only appears as single device/source. I can switch feeds from the device, but I like managing my scenes/feed compositions from OBS. Is there something I'm missing with the ATEM that will parse out the 4 hdmi into individual capture devices in OBS?
So as someone who wants to record ps5 footsge, play in 4k for my personal viewing experience, but just simply create 1080 60fps content, this is perfecr right?
most people only need 1080p 60fps when it comes to recording, since a 4k video is suppressed on RUclips and Twitch anyway. however latency is gonna be the important factor to consider, when choosing a capture device. Elgato in my honest opinion charges way too much, for what you're actually getting. now some might argue there worth it, yeah maybe when you cram a bunch of junk in their that you really don't need, stuff that you hope works out of the box, but the minute you set it up, you get a whole host of problems. the main problem is, most people just wanna stream, but if you have a monitor that's rated at 144hz, or a TV that's 120hz, well there could be a problem trying to get the card to match your monitor or TV. so which card would be better, well the Neo is cheaper, but the Elgato 4K X is still the better the capture device. why because, it can probably handle 1080p 120fps better than the Neo, the Neo most likely is probably only good for 1080p 60 and 4k 30, and it might not even be able to do 4K at all. so that's most likely what your getting if you buy this, but the 4K X can probably do 1440p 60, and up to 1080p 120fps. so if you have a 144hz monitor, that might be the better route to go however there's no guarantee that it'll work even for that setup. but see i don't need all these extra features that come with Elgato cards, that's why i went with the EVGA XR1 Lite, because it's a simple plug n play, that does up to 1080p 60 and that's all that matters to me. plus my TV is only 60, and a capture device can't go higher than what refresh rate is. i don't need HDR or VRR, i just want something that streams and records with little fuss. so will i have trouble running this if i have a 144hz monitor, yeah possibly because most capture cards don't go up that high. so they may say this or that in the description, but think about it why do people often buy 144hz monitors or 120hz TV, it's because they want the best refresh rate possible when it comes to gaming. PC is the biggest factor, now with console you really don't need to go higher than 60, since the vast majority of console games range between 30 and 60. well what capture companies like Elgato do, they try to stay in that range, but people use capture cards also for PC. however there not best fit for PC, unless you get a desktop version, but that's why some people have issues trying to set these up. because it's likely the person wants the card to do what they want, but it may not be able to do that. it's like party chat, you can't do that either. so there's all kinds of variables, but that's just it, people don't like having to give up what there used to doing, but if you want a capture device, you have to cater to that device. like say you buy a cheaper one that gives you 4k 30 pass through that's meant for 1080p, guess what those cheaper capture cards don't go higher than 60hz, and your really only getting 1080p 30fps not 60.
my autistic slow butt is struggling can you explain the "capture card latency to obs LOWER IS BETTER" lower as in like...the lines?? sorry i'm dumb, the numbers beside the lines? like the top one is hd60 x so is that better??? i'm abit confused i am 23 years old i shouldnt be this dumb honestly
This would have made sense like... 10 years ago? Even ignoring the XR1 that isnt really available for its launch price anymore, there are so many cheap capture cards on the market now. You can get 1080p recording for $40 if you are cool with random noname amazon products, or even if you arent, UGREEN and the like are extremely reputable and offer capture cards for only a little bit more. I think UGREEN even has 4k60 recording for a bit cheaper than this. Who exactly do they think this product is for?
It's just too late for a product like this. This would've sold like hotcakes 10 years ago. Now I can buy a splitter for $40 and it'll do exactly what the Neo can do. You're basically buying the Neo for the slightly easier setup and the name at this point.
@@EposVox there are methods that convert HDMI to USB and you use a splitter so one signal goes to your monitor and the other goes to the converter and the PC. Usually costs around $40-$60.
Those are just other capture cards, yes. Most of those cheapo ones send pre-compressed video with very limited compatibility support for what formats you can send to them.
Correction/typo in the Specs section: YUY2 is 4:2:2. >
This is a great product that just works, its not reinventing the wheel and its solid for us console gamers who don't want to overthink it.
$120 for only 1080p60. The EVGA XR1 lite was selling for $40 lol. Who is this marketed towards?
people who don't use Linux (the EVGA capture cards apparently have wayyyyyy better macos/linux compatibility according to Amazon)
@Banana_Knight Yeah I'm not sure why the price skyrocketed. It was 40$ on Newegg when I got it
It's a shame how much the XR1 lite is now. When it first came out, I bought it for $35 bucks
@@kaydawgy1999 its cause EVGA lost their GPU division
I had one that ended up breaking and currently on Amazon the neo is only $10 more
Wow. Actually a decent entry level capture card for someone testing the waters of streaming/recording.
Would you consider doing a capture card roundup, where you basically summarize the most recent offerings in the capture card market and make recommendations?
Pay like $15 more right now and you can get the Avermedia Live Gamer Extreme 3, allowing for VRR, 4K30 recording with 4K60 passthrough and 1440p60 capture. It's worth paying a little extra to get so much more.
I shoulda read this comment before 😞
@@Theyluv_Joelreturn
I would like more budget capture cards on the market. For now the only thing available is the Genki Shadowcast, and that has significant delay. No HDMI passthrough. It makes playing faster games and rhythm games very unfun.
I want a budget card with passthrough so I can play with no delay, while streaming it to my friends so they can watch/know what I'm doing.
When is someone going to make a portable capture card that records to SD card or USB drive? LiveGamer Portable 2 is ancient now and because of that, its capture doesn't meet the quality standards of 1080p capture one would expect.
Atomos Ninja exists
Unfortunately Elgato HD 60X also doesn’t support Steam Deck’s native 1280x800..((
Yeah :/ not common on USB cards, but I’ll keep advocating for it!
There is a custom EDID on the 4K Capture Utility for Steam Deck, have you tried it?
I tried using a Neo but had issues with it causes occasional audio microstutters. Returning it and hoping the HD60 X doesn’t have the same issues.
You threw a lot of numbers and specs I don't understand lol
I'm looking to just capture some replay footage from Smash Bros to upload on here. Is this good enough for that? Or is there a better and cheaper option? I don't know what to buy really
yes. its good enough.
So 1080p/120hz does actually work on the Elgato Neo although marketed to only output 60hz? Interesting
Late-comer here: actually only 3~4 frames of lag to OBS preview? Is that with the included USB3.0 cable or is that USB-c to USB-C? I remember the Elgato Game Capture HD having about 1s delay to OBS preview
Included cable, C to C would be the same.
The old GCHD and HD60 had multiple seconds of delay most of the time because they were sending pre-encoded video over USB 2.0 - a completely different world compared to their modern cards lol
@@EposVox Holy wow.... I guess other budget options might be better, but these are actually physically available where I am, so easier to return.
Now I just need to find out if they work on Linux....
I'm waiting until this card goes on sale for under 100 bucks. Then it's worth it
Would it be able to capture the in game voice chat
It'd be great to see a round up of all of the sub-50 USD capture cards and what their latency to OBS Preview is like. I wish there was info on why something like a Sunshine/Moonlight combo is so much faster latency-wise
I love how you edit your videos. Do you edit them? or you get others to do them?
I edit the vast majority of them!
@@EposVox i see. that must be fun :) how long does it take to make a normal video?
Professor would you have any insight into when/if YT will allow AV1 HDR on RTMPS? So far so good with HEVC it is crisp and colorful but AV1 would be even better. thx!
Still being worked on AFAIK. No clue when it’ll be ready
do you have a video already about how to setup OBS for a 4k60 PCIE card? Looking to know the video settings what to have as main video encoding setting and the P1-P6 settings on what any of that means and what to use.
I have a EVGA 3080 12GB GPU card with AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU with 32GB Ram running Windows 11
He released a video (or so) on OBS settings a while ago.Try search up "OBS best settings EposVox" and browse through. Idk if he covered these things in the same video but iirc I've seen him cover capture card settings, presets, mic settings, just the basics
What were u planning to stream through the card?
(4070S better tho lol)
In a previous video you said you were coming out with a video with a new way to play your video games instead of using obs preview. Have you released that info yet or plan to?
Not yet
2:00 Definitely not Epos playing Crash 3 with the D-pad instead of the sticks!
Nah was using sticks, just laggy obs preview
@@EposVox Oh huh! The very snappy movement is what fooled me, haha. It reminded me of when I tested Crash 2 on PS3 digitally where you can't properly activate the analog controls (because it's expecting the Dual Analog controller). Strangely, it does work when you're using a disc!
Would I be able to get 120 hertz on my monitor?
So I am tryna play 120hz 1440p on my Xbox is that why it’s not working ?
This card will not support that
how does this work with older Retrotink like 2x-multi? I remember previous iterations of the elgato cards not being really friendly with retrotink at all. I have a HD60 S and it would have give me alot of issues and had to eventually move on from it
Should be fine, I showed 480p working
So what capture card should I buy? This one or the hd60
The NZXT HD60? Go for it. 35ish ms of latency means single player games and some online ones can be played on PC. And with content at 1080p60 recording & streaming, ur really not going wrong. Just make sure ur PC meets the required specs of the HD60 :)
this product doesnt help anyone and is clearly inferior to the slightly more expensive variant we already have....
does the capture card capture xbox party chat audio/microphone audio?
Also would like to know this
I just want something that will work with my m1 imac and nintendo switch. Will this work. I don't use my voice. I just want to record switch game play.
Yep!
@@EposVox Thank you!
I had the HD60s back when starting out on RUclips.
Creating gameplay videos, I had the most difficult time setting it up, the usb 3.0 wouldn't even be detected.
Horrible first impressions of game capture for elgato.
Has this changed since 2014? Anybody?
Also, is 60fps the best by default for gameplay videos / Walkthoughs?
I never had those issues, last time I had that kind of issue was like 5+ years before that on old AMD FX builds.
And yes, 60fps is the standard for gaming videos
@@EposVox Yeah, I was on an Alienware Desktop & the USB 3.0 wasn't even being detected. Terrible first impressions.
I was very disappointed, yet, I fucking love Elgato Products. Have a Stream deck, I use it non-stop, it's so fun!!!
Thinking of also getting the new HD60S+ I think that's what it's called?
hello will this work with intel i3 6 gen + intel hd 520 ?
i want to do Benchmarked video on my intel hd 520 graphics card & also for rtx 2060 ?
will this record in 720p for intel hd 520
&
1080p / 60fps for rtx 2060 ?
i only want this for Benchmark purpose ?
720p/30/60fps
&
1080p/30/60fps
and i don't want any stutter & audio issue in my recording will this work or should i buy elgato hd 60 x ?
do you have to use obs for this capture card
Can I have multiple Neos connected on the same system?
I'm looking for a solution to do live multicam out to youtube via a Macbook Pro and OBS. I need 3 HDMI inputs, Cam A, Cam B, and feed from a presentation laptop (zoom/ppt/whatever).
Right now I'm using some generic hdmi usb capture dongles, they work ok, but occasionally I'll see a scan line where they look like they are struggling to keep up.
I'm looking for something possibly a little more robust. I don't want one device that does the switching on hardware, I want to stick with OBS for that, so independent inputs is what I'm looking for.
Any recommendations are greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
Atem mini is what you want
@@EposVox I have an ATEM mini ISO, it works if I use it stand alone. But if I want to have 4 individual inputs in OBS, it only appears as single device/source. I can switch feeds from the device, but I like managing my scenes/feed compositions from OBS. Is there something I'm missing with the ATEM that will parse out the 4 hdmi into individual capture devices in OBS?
So as someone who wants to record ps5 footsge, play in 4k for my personal viewing experience, but just simply create 1080 60fps content, this is perfecr right?
Yes
Will it support a dual core processor intel i5 ? @EposVox ?
iPhone and Android support this capture card
But does it work on Linux?
Wondering the same. What is a good card that works on Linux?
Can i use this capture card for mobile iphone 13
Game paly in mobile and streaming from my computer
I this working on mobile phone?
I have an XR1 Lite and while I’m not the expert here like you, I throughly enjoy it and recommend it! Good alternative to this it seems.
120$ for a BASIC capture card!? 😱
Streamlabs?
its perfect for kids who wanna get into streaming imo
please somone help me , my elgato neo on obs or stream labs is showing a green hue on every game i play , how do i fix this
Seems like a weird product that doesnt know what market its actually targeting
Does anyone have an idea how to set the neo up on a Gaming PC and Streaming Laptop setup?
dose audio pass through the card
Yes
most people only need 1080p 60fps when it comes to recording, since a 4k video is suppressed on RUclips and Twitch anyway.
however latency is gonna be the important factor to consider,
when choosing a capture device. Elgato in my honest opinion charges way too much, for what you're actually getting. now some might argue there worth it,
yeah maybe when you cram a bunch of junk in their that you really don't need,
stuff that you hope works out of the box, but the minute you set it up, you get a whole host of problems. the main problem is, most people just wanna stream,
but if you have a monitor that's rated at 144hz, or a TV that's 120hz,
well there could be a problem trying to get the card to match your monitor or TV.
so which card would be better, well the Neo is cheaper, but the Elgato 4K X is still the better the capture device. why because, it can probably handle 1080p 120fps better than the Neo, the Neo most likely is probably only good for 1080p 60 and 4k 30,
and it might not even be able to do 4K at all.
so that's most likely what your getting if you buy this,
but the 4K X can probably do 1440p 60, and up to 1080p 120fps.
so if you have a 144hz monitor, that might be the better route to go
however there's no guarantee that it'll work even for that setup.
but see i don't need all these extra features that come with Elgato cards,
that's why i went with the EVGA XR1 Lite, because it's a simple plug n play,
that does up to 1080p 60 and that's all that matters to me. plus my TV is only 60,
and a capture device can't go higher than what refresh rate is.
i don't need HDR or VRR, i just want something that streams and records with little fuss.
so will i have trouble running this if i have a 144hz monitor,
yeah possibly because most capture cards don't go up that high.
so they may say this or that in the description, but think about it why do people often buy 144hz monitors or 120hz TV, it's because they want the best refresh rate possible when it comes to gaming. PC is the biggest factor, now with console you really don't need to go higher than 60, since the vast majority of console games range between 30 and 60.
well what capture companies like Elgato do, they try to stay in that range,
but people use capture cards also for PC. however there not best fit for PC,
unless you get a desktop version, but that's why some people have issues trying to set these up. because it's likely the person wants the card to do what they want,
but it may not be able to do that.
it's like party chat, you can't do that either. so there's all kinds of variables,
but that's just it, people don't like having to give up what there used to doing,
but if you want a capture device, you have to cater to that device.
like say you buy a cheaper one that gives you 4k 30 pass through that's meant for 1080p,
guess what those cheaper capture cards don't go higher than 60hz,
and your really only getting 1080p 30fps not 60.
I aint readin all that
Looking for something good enough game capture but also wanna stream and play and have camera trying to learn all that if anyone can help me.
Noice
There are so many better capture card options now there’s no way anyone should be buying this for 119 dollars for 70 to 60 sure
my autistic slow butt is struggling can you explain the "capture card latency to obs LOWER IS BETTER" lower as in like...the lines?? sorry i'm dumb, the numbers beside the lines? like the top one is hd60 x so is that better??? i'm abit confused
i am 23 years old i shouldnt be this dumb honestly
The lower score is better. The measurement in ms
I returned my 4kx its so unstable...its horrible...I'll never buy again
What instability did you encounter?
This would have made sense like... 10 years ago? Even ignoring the XR1 that isnt really available for its launch price anymore, there are so many cheap capture cards on the market now. You can get 1080p recording for $40 if you are cool with random noname amazon products, or even if you arent, UGREEN and the like are extremely reputable and offer capture cards for only a little bit more. I think UGREEN even has 4k60 recording for a bit cheaper than this. Who exactly do they think this product is for?
It's just too late for a product like this. This would've sold like hotcakes 10 years ago. Now I can buy a splitter for $40 and it'll do exactly what the Neo can do. You're basically buying the Neo for the slightly easier setup and the name at this point.
An HDMI splitter is not the same thing as a capture card at all, what?
@@EposVox there are methods that convert HDMI to USB and you use a splitter so one signal goes to your monitor and the other goes to the converter and the PC. Usually costs around $40-$60.
Those are just other capture cards, yes. Most of those cheapo ones send pre-compressed video with very limited compatibility support for what formats you can send to them.