How I SOLVED Shiny Shaymin with Timers and Blinks

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • That's right. I successfully RNG Manipulated a Shiny Shaymin in the latest update of Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, and put together a guide as FAST AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
    WARNING: This is one of the most difficult RNG manipulations in BDSP.
    RNG Tools Pack: github.com/jja...
    FAQ: docs.google.co...
    Legends & Program Setup Video: • SHINY LEGENDS in an Ho...
    Special thanks go out to:
    Niart120 for originally developing Project Xs in Japanese
    (github.com/nia...)
    Lincoln-LM for the English Version
    (github.com/Lin...)
    Admiral Fish for Pokefinder 4.0
    (github.com/Adm...)
    ...and everyone else in the RNG Community! You made Pokemon my favorite game ever and I'm forever grateful.
    #shiny #pokemon #bdsp
    Follow me on Twitch: / papa_jefe
    Follow me on Twitter: / itspapajefe
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Комментарии • 315

  • @neurophilosophers994
    @neurophilosophers994 2 года назад +36

    Something that could seriously improve the timing and margin of error is having an animation sliding bar for the timing on the 6 second beeps to have say a red line slide and a static target green line to press it once it reaches that point. Because going by sound I find I press it right before or after the 6th beep and this causes about a 30 frame variance that I can’t adjust for I just have to be lucky. This is after I have adjusted making the tunnel behind shaymin so I don’t have to turn around I can just spam A. Really this is more so for the first two 6 second beep periods

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +20

      That's a good idea! I've never spoken to the flowtimer developer, but maybe it's possible?
      The trick I use, is to bob my head in rhythm with the beeps, and then on the 6th beep just move my finger at the same time.
      Everyone kinda comes up with their own little internal system for doing the beeps, as they are a common feature of older games RNG.

  • @DoctorLazertron
    @DoctorLazertron 2 года назад +8

    Sick. Your chat is cringe as hell. But really cool stuff you got goin.

  • @GunsIinger22
    @GunsIinger22 2 года назад +19

    This is so amazing to do on retail man.
    Even tho I got all the Shaymin and shiny Shaymin I need from Gen 4 RNG, I might try this one day, just to see what was harder. This, or starter RNG in BW2 (wich to this day is the hardest RNG I've done so far). Ugh, I already hate myself for the pain I'm going to experience :D

    • @alexd7589
      @alexd7589 2 года назад +2

      This is way harder than BW2 starter RNG. BW2 took me 2 days to get it, this one I've been doing for a couple weeks and can't get it for some reason...

  • @rubygem_8841
    @rubygem_8841 2 года назад +20

    Tried this for about 3ish hours Today. Got very close several times, like 2-8 frames. I noticed that the way I press the buttons has a real impact on the frames as well. Hopefully I can get everything down correctly tomorrow and walk away with a blue, modest hedgehog! Thank you for this tutorial, much more fun than resetting for like 10 hours, hahaha

    • @hermex26
      @hermex26 2 года назад

      How did you get the flowtimer to go off by itself?

    • @Jmulvez
      @Jmulvez 2 года назад +1

      @@hermex26 you have to make sure you click on the tab for flowtimer. example if you click the monitor window thats showing the advances so its the top layer on your screen, it wont trigger. you need to have flowtimer as the top layer on your computer for it to trigger. this same issue was tripping me up too

    • @danredda1
      @danredda1 2 года назад +1

      @@Jmulvez Alternatively in the flowtimer settings where you enable page up, there is a global checkbox. If you check that it recognises page up without being on top. I just managed to do this today and got my Shaymin finally after 39 attempts (tweaked delays etc. to values I found comfortable)

    • @Jmulvez
      @Jmulvez 2 года назад

      @@danredda1 did you really? ive been within 5 frames about 15 times now and just cant get it. what settings did you use on the timer? only adjustment i made was moving the 2nd interval from 8500 to 9000

    • @Larizard
      @Larizard 2 года назад

      @@Jmulvez found this out today after my first try failed to activate Flowtimer!

  • @kartiksaraf4676
    @kartiksaraf4676 2 года назад +11

    I really wish you would do videos for Cresselia, heatran and lake guardians etc as well. Following your guide is really helpful and I have come to trust your voice a lot, you're a great teacher and speaker

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +3

      For sure, videos are coming for everything. Just finished Darkrai on stream today.

  • @kerrygligorovic9758
    @kerrygligorovic9758 2 года назад +9

    I was expecting from Pokemon Present to announce another update patch for Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl so we can finally used Wonder Trade and Global Wonder Station but never happened. I can't believe that we will have to wait a bit longer😒.

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +6

      I KNOW.
      I thought HOME support was for sure coming.
      Boy did they prove me wrong

    • @athenasjustice66
      @athenasjustice66 2 года назад

      GWS is now unlocked with the new update

  • @neurophilosophers994
    @neurophilosophers994 2 года назад +6

    We can shiny hunt Darkrai and Arceus! I am going to try to shiny hunt Shaymin when I get home with this method. And I want to do Darkrai and Arceus too :)

    • @208jdog
      @208jdog Год назад

      Did you get all 3 mythical and legendaries shiny?

  • @tehdrumerer3
    @tehdrumerer3 2 года назад +8

    how do you only have 5k subs?
    most underrated content creator I’ve seen in awhile.

  • @FCBayernRobbery1
    @FCBayernRobbery1 2 года назад +7

    I have the problem that the time doesnt start automatecly, when the advances reaches the keypress advances. Watched the Video twice and still cant find my mistake unfortunately.

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      Did you set the Timer Start hotkey in Flowtimer to Page Up? There might be a checkbox that says like... "Global" to make it register

    • @FCBayernRobbery1
      @FCBayernRobbery1 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT yh i've done every single step and everything looks like yours. Only the timer doesnt start.
      And i saw now another Problem. I started the time manuell and i cant hit the 3rd time at the right time, cause my animation of shaymin, when i press a, is a bit slower than yours. Your screen is instant black and my screen goes slowly black, when i press a on shaymin.
      Have Animations off. Dont where the problem ist.

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +1

      @@FCBayernRobbery1 I had to edit Shaymin in the second time I show it in the video (because I had already claimed the Shaymin) refer to the first attempt at the beginning which isn't edited. Mine still fades.
      Just make sure you're holding Up and mashing A after leaving the underground, so you start talking to Shaymin as fast as possible.
      There's also a strange quirk in this game where having music off can speed up animation speeds, so try that.
      The only other thing I can think of, is maybe my timing is different because I've run away and respawned it a few times? Maybe the animation is slower if it's your first interaction.
      As for getting the timer to auto-trigger, you might need to click the "install.bat" again, as if you've used Playerblink before, there's a new requirement for doing the keypress.

  • @kimperator4995
    @kimperator4995 7 месяцев назад +1

    why it doesn't work, when I change from camera.json to secret_base.json? Exception is: Window not found.

  • @Zygarde3678
    @Zygarde3678 2 года назад +4

    I sometimes get this error when hitting "Preveiw". "Failed to pull input from target window, make sure nothing else is accessing the window (stop preview before monitoring blinks)."

    • @penguinpulverizers5985
      @penguinpulverizers5985 2 года назад +1

      Not that you will respond to this, but nice job scamming your audience into thinking you actually reset for these Shiny pokemon, at least say you used the blink method and not fake your resets

    • @Zygarde3678
      @Zygarde3678 2 года назад +1

      @@penguinpulverizers5985 i havent lied to anyone. Palkia and Arceus were purely my own hard work. Kyogre i posted was blinked. I never said i didn’t use blink and i never said that i did. The reason the title says how i got this lucky is because it was my first attempt at it 🤷‍♂️

    • @xXunknownXx0000
      @xXunknownXx0000 2 года назад

      @@Zygarde3678 oh hey zygarde

  • @legendary-niko305
    @legendary-niko305 2 года назад +6

    I’m having trouble getting the seed and I’m really interested in the blink method but it seems to complicated tbh

  • @PapaJefeYT
    @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +9

    Legends & Program Setup Video: ruclips.net/video/tBONus3Kg8U/видео.html
    RNG Tools Pack: github.com/jjaldridge2009/Project_XS/releases
    Capture Card recommendation: amzn.to/36h71J0
    EDIT:
    @Josh Moseley created this nice spreadsheet for the public to use. Just go to the top right menu and "Make a Copy" for yourself.
    docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NrT5fcQoGniYA5D1YNbnhgvUZaPgGDvMNt9Ohu5iNXU/edit?usp=sharing
    Also included some tips that I think are valuable, if you're having trouble:
    "You just need to copy the frame you want from Pokefinder into the "Target" column and adjust the delay as you need, then copy the number that appears in the "Press A Frame" column into the Project-XS "Keypress Advance" box, if you've got an early target and see a red or amber "Press A Box" cell just make sure your delay and target frame are inputted correctly.
    Hopefully this will help people RNG for Shaymin like I've been able to do. Also don't be afraid to change the delay by 100 or more from Papa Jefé's delay if you're consistently getting 100 or more over your frame, I ended my shiny hunt with a 2060 delay rather than 1951, this RNG manipulation is all about trial and error and you'll probably fail many times before landing on your shiny frame."
    Thanks Josh!

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      @Sapphire Eclipse Sorry for the late response! Been on vacation.
      This is the one I've been recommending to people, and have one myself. Multiple people have used it successfully.
      www.amazon.com/Rybozen-Capture-Recording-Streaming-Broadcasting/dp/B097DKNS1M

    • @neurophilosophers994
      @neurophilosophers994 2 года назад

      One extra tip, if you dig the tunnel behind shamin you can mash A when you come up from the tunnel instead of turning backwards when you come up if you face him from the front

    • @neurophilosophers994
      @neurophilosophers994 2 года назад

      Also if it takes a long time to monitor you want to move your controllers so the screen doesn’t go dark. You don’t need to press any buttons. Also I find my advances get stuck on 2 before I try to go out and advance more to my target keypress advance I stop preview and re identify and make sure the advance count is going up. It has happened to me where the count just gets lost and there is an error and this tends to prevent it. I have been consistently pretty close now especially digging behind shaymin helped a lot with consistency

  • @VegaLupina
    @VegaLupina 2 года назад +2

    Lol, my follow (which I gave you when you were offline) is displayed at the bottom. :D

  • @bentaylor9134
    @bentaylor9134 11 месяцев назад +3

    Just wanted to share my thanks for making this guide as well! I'm currently 32 attempts in for Shamyin (after successfully getting Dialga, Cresselia, Darkrai and Arceus).
    It's unfortunate that this hunt is so random but I've had a few attempts at +-5 advances so I know it's possible. Thanks for making these guides and I hope I'll get my mint hedghog soon!

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  11 месяцев назад +2

      You've got this. Good luck!

  • @95josh95
    @95josh95 2 года назад +5

    I've created a spreadsheet similar to the one at 19:00 ( docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NrT5fcQoGniYA5D1YNbnhgvUZaPgGDvMNt9Ohu5iNXU/edit?usp=sharing ) to help anyone keep track of which frame has been hit, I've also added a seed0 and seed1 column if anyone wants to track these as well. You just need to copy the frame you want from Pokefinder into the "Target" column and adjust the delay as you need, then copy the number that appears in the "Press A Frame" column into the Project-XS "Keypress Advance" box, if you've got an early target and see a red or amber "Press A Box" cell just make sure your delay and target frame are inputted correctly. Hopefully this will help people RNG for Shaymin like I've been able to do. Also don't be afraid to change the delay by 100 or more from Papa Jefé's delay if you're consistently getting 100 or more over your frame, I ended my shiny hunt with a 2060 delay rather than 1951, this RNG manipulation is all about trial and error and you'll probably fail many times before landing on your shiny frame.

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      Great stuff. I should have just made my sheet public in retrospect! :)
      Sometimes I forget spreadsheet skills aren't common knowledge.
      I'll add your link and tips to the pinned comment. I definitely agree that depending on your setup and personal reaction-time results could vary on the delay.
      It sounds like you were successful, which is awesome! It's by far one of the hardest RNGs in BDSP. Those advances are COOKIN.

    • @95josh95
      @95josh95 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT It's easy to forget certain skills aren't accessible for everyone if you've been using them for a while, I know I've been guilty of that before.
      Hopefully someone can find the spreadsheet useful and make this RNG a bit more accessible for those who forget to keep track of any changes in delay.
      This RNG definitely took a few hours out of my life, but definitely glad I've successfully completed the challenge

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      @@95josh95 hahaha yeah, I was definitely at my limit after 8 hours straight streaming this thing.
      Thanks again for helping out the community, always a pleasure to have someone else around who appreciates how cool this all is!

  • @riseofhell3506
    @riseofhell3506 2 года назад +3

    Got mine shiny shaymin today thanks for your tutorial it worked. Took maybe 20+ tries, finally got shiny but my dumbass clicked runaway had to retry 3 times again to get it. But i caught it 2nd time. Thank you very much for the tutoral save a lot of time for shiny. I was using this rng after you showed how to use on legendary.

  • @marktreerng
    @marktreerng 2 года назад +21

    Congrats! Amazing job, all the creators of the tools are legendary. May try this one day

  • @justluca_
    @justluca_ 2 года назад +2

    Got Arceus and Darkrai without many issues, but this little bastard is hard as hell. I'm always a couple frames off. Closest I got was 1 frame. Not giving up tho!

  • @Zygarde3678
    @Zygarde3678 2 года назад +2

    So im checking how off i am and its always around 10-20, should i change my delay lower by that much or is it just luck?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +2

      Are you consistently early/late, or sometimes early, sometimes late?

    • @Zygarde3678
      @Zygarde3678 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT I figured it out thanks

  • @Daniel-ru8je
    @Daniel-ru8je 2 года назад +2

    Is this doable with arceus?
    Edit: just saw the video about arceus you posted, good job!

  • @ekim613
    @ekim613 2 года назад +3

    1:24 "using nothing but blinks"
    Shiny Shaymin: *blinks*

  • @alexanderkerner1142
    @alexanderkerner1142 Год назад +2

    Thank You Jefé !!!
    I got my Shaymin 20 min ago !
    3000/8500/19000 offset
    Delay: 1890
    After approximately 15 000 runaways i nearly lost hope...
    Then i found your Video.
    After only 82 Tries i got my Shaymin.

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  Год назад +1

      Nice work, and congrats! That's a rough RNG manip. You're ready to tackle anything now!

  • @jdhejjdjdjfj2075
    @jdhejjdjdjfj2075 2 года назад +4

    Absolutely incredible, I don’t have a cpu to do this but it is mind blowing that people spent so much time perfecting thos

  • @joshdaniel5352
    @joshdaniel5352 Год назад +1

    A little late to the party, when adding the 'Windowed' onto Player Blink, it just inputs a still image and can't seem to get a moving image from OBS. Any ideas anyone on how to fix this?

    • @YouTube_account001
      @YouTube_account001 Год назад

      はい、obsのバージョンを25.○○○にしてください。
      私も最新のバージョンだと静止画になりましたが、バージョンダウンしたら解決しました。
      ↑please translate. from Japan.🇯🇵

  • @neurophilosophers994
    @neurophilosophers994 2 года назад +2

    I re identified and skipped my 2500’sh target up to 41k lmao

  • @tehsiutsai7363
    @tehsiutsai7363 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the wonderful video and application. I am wondering if any user can't import the windowed projector into the application like me. I spend a few time to figure out the problem, and finally I found that the pywin32 package can't function normally under version 303. After i downgraded the version to 300, it can finally function normally.🤣🤣

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +1

      Good tip!
      Most people aren't typically python users, so in my bundled package I include the version of python that is compatible with the tool. Unfortunately I'm not the developer, so I can't update it to work on the latest version.
      Glad you were able to get it working! Best of luck on your hunts!

  • @Zygarde3678
    @Zygarde3678 2 года назад +1

    Whenever i try to open PokeFinder, the c\monitoring screen goes black for some reason

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      Are you on Windows 10 or 11?

    • @Zygarde3678
      @Zygarde3678 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT 10. It seems to happen less now but i see now that it only goes black when i open one of the other programs while its preveiwing.

  • @arjjanwalia5939
    @arjjanwalia5939 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for putting out this guide man! Just got my Shiny Shaymin after 29 tries. This is definitely more fun than soft resetting, since you can actually analyse how off you are after each attempt and then play around accordingly, but pretty frustrating as well with the crazy rng on Shaymin's island, and the assertion errors(I used a droid cam setup through my phone).
    A huge thank you to you, since this was my first RNG attempt of any sort in any Pokemon game and I got it in a relatively short time! Final settings I used were:
    A-Press Delay: 1929
    Flowtimer: 3000/8600/18975

  • @anphoneron
    @anphoneron 2 года назад +1

    Just coincidence that the program makes you wait 666? I think not! Dun dun DUNNN. Is your shiny worth your *SOUL*, trainer!?

  • @Whiteythereaper
    @Whiteythereaper 2 года назад +1

    I completely forgot that I have gotten a capture card since I last watched this, I can finally do BDSP manips, hell yeah

  • @kingmonkeyv
    @kingmonkeyv 2 года назад +3

    Dubs on top of dubs, we call that a quad bossman

  • @darmirmo
    @darmirmo 2 года назад +5

    great job, you are the best

  • @loganmitchell3453
    @loganmitchell3453 2 года назад +1

    I have been on this guy for a while, currently Flowtimer is set at 3000/8500/19202 and with a Delay of 1951, and this is consistently getting me 20-40 early about every time, one time I got 5-6 off!! So close! But I don’t understand how it works if I changed the delay like higher or lower or how to change the flow timer, what do you think would be best to get that 20-40 barely closer?? How do I do that, so I can understand the Flowtimer

  • @quentinmetais8964
    @quentinmetais8964 2 года назад +1

    Hello guys, sorry to bother you but I'm a little bit desesperate. I tried multiple times to link my webcam via OBS to the program unsuccessfully and I don't quite understand what's the matter. I get an "Frame captured is empty, make sure your camera is set up properly" message when trying to link the program to the Windowed Projector and nothing happens. But it's working well on OBS. I've also tried to cycle through the camera numbers but none seems to work, except for one, 1, which makes the app crash

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +2

      If you're using the windowed projector and OBS, make sure "Monitor Window" is checked and that the window is visible on your screen. It can be in the background, but not minimized. Then put the first word of the window's title (in this case "Windowed") into the text box. Sometimes there are also issues with the Window being too small. Try making the Windowed Projector bigger on your screen.
      If that doesn't work, close OBS and then uncheck monitor window when you're using the Camera selector. If a camera # crashes the program, it's either being used by multiple programs at once, or it has driver issues.
      Are you on Windows 10 or Windows 11? I've heard of issues like this on 11. Hopefully you're able to get it working.

  • @wingnutlp2002
    @wingnutlp2002 2 года назад +2

    BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TWO FOR TWO!!!! First Arceus and now Shaymin!!! 17 tries but I got just now!!! Thanks man!!!!

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +1

      CONGRATS! Shaymin is by far the hardest RNG in this game. Others have spent many, many tries trying to get it successfully. Nice work!

    • @wingnutlp2002
      @wingnutlp2002 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT Thanks Man. For possibly helping others here was my setup:
      Timer Offset (3000/9000/17500) interval 500, 6 beeps, Final A press delay was 1495 (down from 1951 from video above). Good luck everyone!!!!

  • @Sebobles
    @Sebobles 4 месяца назад

    I’m pretty late to the party, but I got a shiny Shaymin today thanks to this video. Wholeheartedly I would like to say, thank you.

  • @iTparent
    @iTparent 2 года назад +2

    You da bomb! I went out and bought a webcam 2 weeks ago. This is the first time I’ve ever tried to do anything like RNG minip. Took me a long time, but I finally got my shiny Shaymin today! Thank you buddy, I had a ton of fun learning!

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +1

      Impressive as hell to take on this beast of an RNG first. The world is your oyster now 🤣

    • @iTparent
      @iTparent 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT Shows how awesome your tutorials are if anything! Appreciate what you do!

  • @neurophilosophers994
    @neurophilosophers994 2 года назад +1

    On my first attempt I hit 46880 when my target was 45529. Was that because I was a step away from shaymin ? I know that you said the noise is crazy high in the overworld? Also I hit page up but the flow timer didn’t automatically start ? So I’m sure that made it a bit worse I just tapped to your rhythm

    • @neurophilosophers994
      @neurophilosophers994 2 года назад

      Well if I add 1951 then I get 47480 which was the number in pokefinder does that mean I was actually early ??

  • @AlbertTan505
    @AlbertTan505 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this guide.
    After getting shiny Darkrai and Arceus within a few hours, I was feeling kinda confident when I tried to do this one. Got to say it's probably the wildest, most frustrating, and most difficult one so far.
    Got my shiny shaymin after around 6 days with more or less 18 timer accurate tries, and a lot of botched attempts.
    With the 3000/8500/19000 Flow Timer, I got my delay tweaked to 1869 for my final try with wildly varying offsets per adjustment. Plus noticing how shaymin may or may not blink during the cutscene, I think I got lucky on my final try.
    Getting the delay was kind of frustrating considering the varying input delay with my 8bitdo controller, my own mental timing, and using a Genki Shadowcast as my "capture card", on my gen 1 switch.

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  10 месяцев назад +1

      congrats on shaymin! this is very difficult.

  • @TheZyiu
    @TheZyiu 2 года назад +1

    I wanted to Thank You for another great tutorial.
    I just got my Shiny Shaymin thanks to you.
    The numbers and everything where exactly the same from the video so... Lucky on my side?

  • @dinicolibiagio7366
    @dinicolibiagio7366 2 года назад +3

    this is insane 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @Jmulvez
    @Jmulvez 2 года назад +2

    arceus took a few tries but got him pretty easy. shaymins been tough. closest i got was 3 frames. but usually hit around 20 frames early or late

    • @razrv3lc
      @razrv3lc 2 года назад

      same. I got Arceus on the 3rd try. Shaymin... not so much. Closest i've gotten was 34 frames lol.

    • @Jmulvez
      @Jmulvez 2 года назад

      @@razrv3lc ive gotten within 5 frames 3 times my dude 😂 i finally have a consistent timeline but 270 advances per second is still tough to hit

  • @mobious01
    @mobious01 2 года назад +1

    Damn i was on the live and missed this because of work rip

  • @corundite
    @corundite 5 месяцев назад

    Just used this same method to RNG Spiritomb, if anyone reading is interested I used a timer of 3000/8500/18000 with a final delay of 367. Thanks Papa Jefe, couldn't have done it without your guides :)

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  5 месяцев назад

      Omg the NPCs 😵‍💫
      Nice work!!

  • @youapunka8447
    @youapunka8447 2 года назад +2

    Ok so from doing my own tests on getting shaymin... The method portrayed in this video requires a huge unnecessary step, using the flow timer. If you calculate the exact frame you step out of the secret base to immediately going up and encountering shaymin as QUICKLY as possible. It is a delay of 1354 or 1355 1378 1379 1405 or 1408 and 1454. As well as other possibilities between the smallest and largest delay I have listed here. Using the flow timer will more than likely have you attempting this longer than you should simply because it is HEAVILY reliant on correctly timing the button press according to the flow timer beeps versus doing it in the same way on every attempt by doing it as swiftly as possible. Choose one of the delays I have listed here or test it and see for yourself. Choose one and consistently attempt at that delay and you will get shaymin before too long

    • @thetestinggrounds7855
      @thetestinggrounds7855 2 года назад

      I have a question for you. If someone is using the console version and is simply riding a bike in and out of the area to respawn, what would be a good amount of time to wait between coming into the area and clicking on Shaymin? Been looking everywhere for a guide on this but no luck. But you seem to know what you're talking about, so I figured I'd ask.

    • @youapunka8447
      @youapunka8447 2 года назад +1

      We are all using the console version, or at least most of us and I am not sure if you mean with or without rng manipulation. Without it your just going to have to keep trying at the fastest most constant pace and you will get it in time. Can’t say for sure when. It took me 14 days give or take one day and doing it an average of 5hours per day without using rng. Using rng it took me about 15 hours total spread across 3 days

    • @thetestinggrounds7855
      @thetestinggrounds7855 2 года назад

      @@youapunka8447 Oh sweet Jesus. ☠

    • @Matt-G90
      @Matt-G90 2 месяца назад

      Random comment after two years but, I tried Papa Jefe's method for a little bit a week or so ago and the best I could get was within 60 frames. As my Switch was low on charge I was scrolling through here and saw your comment and decided the next time I was to attempt Shaymin I would give this a go. That day was today, I tried a delay of 1379 to experiment and got within 10 frames twice (out of maybe 5 attempts), I felt good about my chances and on my 6th attempt (and using a delay of 1380) I managed to snag my shiny Shaymin. Thanks so much for your recommendation, really suited my style more of consistently speeding through!

  • @zant00
    @zant00 2 года назад +3

    grats on shiny shaymin in bdsp, for me it did take me 11 years to get shiny shaymin on platinum last april

    • @SuperDarkNeutral
      @SuperDarkNeutral 2 года назад +1

      11 years ?!

    • @zant00
      @zant00 2 года назад +2

      @@SuperDarkNeutral yes was very unlucky with shaymin and was also super boring and getting shiny in platinum was a small 1/8192 chance insted of todays 1/4096 chance

  • @Alchristis
    @Alchristis 6 месяцев назад

    This is very cool! I'm going to keep trying this; I misinput the S[0-1] code a couple times and so I was very confused on how I was off by 100000 advances, but I now I'm off by just around 100.

  • @Picozee
    @Picozee 2 года назад +1

    whenever I preview the scene, it gets way too big and cuts out all the options on the right side, how do I fix this?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      Change "Display Percentage" to a smaller number

    • @Picozee
      @Picozee 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT oh shoot, my bad, seems obvious now lmao. thanks!

  • @Hashikawaa
    @Hashikawaa Год назад +1

    using ur guides I got regigas heatran and shaymin all in one night. Shaymin took only 3 tries! I feel like im showing my dad my good grades on my report card

  • @andrewjones6583
    @andrewjones6583 2 года назад +1

    Is there another way I can do this since I don’t have a computer or capture card?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +1

      Afraid not. You're limited to just hunting the normal way. Run away from Shaymin, walk back down the path a bit, then come back and he'll respawn.

  • @SubwaySandwichBossIngo
    @SubwaySandwichBossIngo 2 года назад +1

    Bro this is insane. Almost as insane as the RSE RNG manip stuff.

  • @Regiultima
    @Regiultima 2 года назад +5

    Imagine not being subscribed at this point

  • @michaelmayes9697
    @michaelmayes9697 2 года назад +3

    Damn dude, this is sick. I need to start an RNG save file.
    I’ve previously done RNG manip in mostly Gen 4, so will be awesome to put my capture card to use!

    • @bimgus5808
      @bimgus5808 2 года назад

      We must see

    • @michaelmayes9697
      @michaelmayes9697 2 года назад

      @@bimgus5808 we must see what?

    • @bimgus5808
      @bimgus5808 2 года назад

      @@michaelmayes9697 we need to see you start the rng save file

  • @Huwarf
    @Huwarf 11 месяцев назад

    Thx for the video Papa Jefe. Got Shiny Shaymin efter 4-5 hrs of trying. Was always either a few frame or 30 off so I kept going. Thx for your video.

  • @TheStone190
    @TheStone190 2 года назад +2

    Thanks a lot

  • @walterkester7566
    @walterkester7566 Месяц назад

    Does anyone know how to pkhex the items for shaymin and darkrai in or is there a guide for how to get these items now?

    • @shinylugia
      @shinylugia Месяц назад

      Pretty sure you go into the items section in the trainer info and add it, or there might be an event injector like the gen 3 games. Not sure though.

  • @maxtaylor3531
    @maxtaylor3531 2 года назад +1

    Thank you! Got it 7th attempt. I’ve not done this since sun and moon, I forgot how fun it was.

  • @shawnloh4898
    @shawnloh4898 6 месяцев назад

    Sometimes the flow timer doesn’t start automatically, is it just me?

    • @JassielHernandez
      @JassielHernandez 6 месяцев назад

      You need to make sure that you have focused the window of the flowtimer

  • @grayfullbuster2857
    @grayfullbuster2857 2 года назад +1

    Hey I was wondering! How do you do this with heatran?

  • @platsnake1328
    @platsnake1328 2 года назад +7

    Haven't even seen the full video yet, but from your previous videos I know this will be good. Already spent 3.8k~ SR on this damn hedgehog so I'm so keen for blink Shaymin. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @RicPendragon
    @RicPendragon 2 года назад

    I remember doing this on Diamond/Soul Silver for the cute charm glitch...do I really have the energy to master the timing again for Shaymin?

  • @PokeDaD88
    @PokeDaD88 2 года назад +1

    Let's Go!!! Fr the best Reaction I have seen yet!

  • @atlaserol172
    @atlaserol172 2 года назад +4

    finally got it after like a week of on and off attempts, and messing with my delays.
    I found that my delay was wildly off from the "1951" that you suggested using. I found that a delay of "1399" was allowing for me to hit 1-10 advances off on a good attempt. The only thing I can assume causing this difference being that I chose the male gendered playable character versus the female gendered character you used in the video.
    Hitting the timing was also a little daunting at times, mostly on the exit from underground part of the manipulation. Whenever I wasn't frame perfect(or nearly perfect) on the menu open to exit the underground I had greater variance in the advances I was hitting, usually an extra 10 advancements off of the average. But I'm not super versed in BDSP RNG manipulation so as far as I know this is just my bias.
    For real thank you for the guide, as well as the resources to be successful with it. Keep up the banger RNG manip content my guy!!

    • @kartiksaraf4676
      @kartiksaraf4676 2 года назад +1

      for me also I am experimenting with around 1400 with female character. I did notice that his delay with going up from underground is a lot less than I have. Might be the reason

  • @chromeverse
    @chromeverse 2 года назад +1

    Enjoy your well deserved holiday brother. remember you’re the GOAT and catch a big dinger for me while fishing 💪💪

  • @nxxcturnal2484
    @nxxcturnal2484 Год назад

    I was super excited to try this method out! However when I go to set up my preview window for my capture card (an avermedia one) it only reads it under the camera option. And trying with the camera setting, its constantly registering blinks when my character hasn’t done any. :(

  • @TreeVinee
    @TreeVinee 2 года назад +1

    You're goated 🔥🤘🏼

  • @sleepzzz8621
    @sleepzzz8621 Год назад

    Thank you Papa Jefe for this wonderful guide!!
    I was able to get the shiny shaymin after closely to 100 tries and it was definitely one of the toughest of them all..
    Changing the delay from 1951 to 1952 or 1962, counting the numbers from heart to actually speaking out loud XD
    After thouroughly investigating your guide video with Shaymin and checked one by one on how your voice and the FlowTimer matched
    My final FlowTimer Offset was 3150/8600/19000 while having 1951 delay
    I was able to count the beeps normally instead of having to count slow or fast in several intervals : )
    Great guide thank you!!!!

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  Год назад

      Amazing! Congratulations, not an easy RNG to attempt.

  • @shinyplay7045
    @shinyplay7045 2 года назад

    正在使用发音
    Can you issue a video about rotom? I want this.thank you

  • @thatguyjared8560
    @thatguyjared8560 Год назад

    Is it normal for the preview when monitoring the blinks to be a solid image, or is it supposed to be a video?

  • @GlitchShark
    @GlitchShark Год назад

    Is shaymin reachable on 1.0 with glitches? I'm very late to the party but I still want to do this.

  • @Urahara08
    @Urahara08 2 года назад

    Wow this is all so crazy impressive that you took the time to do all the math and took into factor every single polygon on Shaymin's a**hole! However can break this down for people who don't have all this equipment or is it just impossible?

  • @WorldEaterZero
    @WorldEaterZero 2 года назад +1

    This is so crazy good method

  • @EbonyPerry-bh7ou
    @EbonyPerry-bh7ou 10 месяцев назад

    I've almost gotten the hang of it, but after the 40 blinks are logged the input window says "Failed to deduce seed from monitored blinks" What am I doing wrong?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  10 месяцев назад

      You might need to join my discord and post some screenshots in #rng-help
      Hard to know what's going wrong, but its probably fixable.

  • @ParadoxBrony
    @ParadoxBrony 2 года назад

    I have no PC or capture card. Soft resetting is gonna be hell for Shaymin, Arceus, and Darkrai.
    Awesome video still.

  • @FrifiTV
    @FrifiTV 2 года назад

    Im always getting an error after the 40 blinks and don’t get a seed. Pls help me

  • @overdose5786
    @overdose5786 2 года назад +7

    I really love this channel where I can always learn something new (plus reliably sourced and tested) from you!

  • @kartiksaraf4676
    @kartiksaraf4676 2 года назад

    Can you also RNG for the swords of justice in Sw/Sh. I have unfortunately caught all others in Sw/Sh

  • @abottoni83
    @abottoni83 Год назад

    Wow! Thanks Papa for this amazing video. I honestly didnt understood much how to get the delay properly so I started playing with numbers there (your 1951 delay) was nowhere close to my frames, but after literally 5 tries I kinda narrow the number (catching the shaymin everytime and do a lot of math to get the number) and i ended up with a delay of 1623 which gave me shaymin at 6th try. I honestly thought that i missed the frame because I kinda pressed the a button a bit late (to get out of the underground) but oh boi when i saw the sparkling shaymin.. couldn't believe it. I was planning trying for a little longer and worse case scenario do the usual hunt for it, but no needed in the end.
    Your rng guides have been amazing. Working through the legends (got Dialga, Arceus, Registeel, Regice, Azelf, Uxie, Cresselia, Darkrai and Giratina already). Just getting close to finish with all outside of Ramanas Park to keep grinding for mysterious shards to get the slates (boring stuff) to continue the hunt there!
    Thanks again :)

  • @T-Sharp
    @T-Sharp Год назад

    I'm sorry if this is already clear, but I've watched a bunch of these videos and I'm still not sure. Does clicking a button cause advances? I'm not manipulating, just curious about how the system works. I've got a controller that auto-presses A for soft resets and I'm wondering if that puts me on the same advance everytime or if it depends on when I stop. Not a super important question, I just like learning more about the system.

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  Год назад

      In the case of BDSP, no it isn't affected by button presses. The seed changes every reset, so your soft resets are fine.

  • @PeaceLoveMusic504
    @PeaceLoveMusic504 2 года назад +1

    If I am coming in about 50 eraly on average should I move the delay up or down 1?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      You want to hit the button later, so I'd make delay smaller.
      Larger Delay = Earlier Button Press
      Smaller Delay = Later Button Press

    • @PeaceLoveMusic504
      @PeaceLoveMusic504 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT I really appreciate the help I'm within 10 each time now. Gonna get it soon. Can you use this method to hunt Regigigas? And will there be an update now that Arceus and Darkrai are confirmed coming to BDSP?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      @@PeaceLoveMusic504 Yes, Yes, and Yes!

    • @PeaceLoveMusic504
      @PeaceLoveMusic504 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT I cant find it anywhere online, is there a config I should be using for Regigigas? And is he easier than Shaymin?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      @@PeaceLoveMusic504 Yes it is easier than Shaymin, but there isn't a video up for it yet.
      You can use Config_mtcoronet and start RNG right at the entrance to the stairs to his chamber. I do about 200 advances early for timeline, and start with 100 advances for target. Start Timeline, walk down the stairs when it hits 0 and proceed to Regigigas.
      Make sure the path you're walking is CONSISTENT. Use the Dpad to walk, not the joystick. The floor tiles are active with wild Pokemon, so every step moves the RNG.
      After you catch your first Regigigas this way, you'd adjust your delay by how many you were off.
      Keep repeating this process until you start hitting within 1-2 advances every time.
      Consistent movement is key, but he also Blinks, so its possible to miss even if you're perfect.
      If you join the discord, there's some past conversations in the RNG help channel that could be of use to you as well.

  • @JracoMeter
    @JracoMeter Год назад

    Could you combine this with NXBT for exact timings?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  Год назад +2

      If its accurate enough, that might be an interesting thing to try!

  • @TheOnlyGam3changer
    @TheOnlyGam3changer 2 года назад

    By any chance is there a way to unlock the event now that you can’t get it from Nintendo 👀

  • @mr_tanuki
    @mr_tanuki Год назад

    Quick question, if i can only catch one shaymin, how do i keep track of how far im missing the catch window frame? Do i need a modded switch to reload a save before i catch Shaymin, or am i missing something.

    • @emilioemilio4245
      @emilioemilio4245 Год назад

      so catch it, and then put in its stats+nature and so on and it will appear with its code and compare that to what your target was

  • @Trisilverfire
    @Trisilverfire 2 года назад

    I can't seem to get the setup to work. I'm going through OBS, and I was looking at the FAQ. I have everything as listed, but when I click on "preview" the command box says "window not found" . How do I solve this issue?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +1

      Try not closing OBS, and then unchecking monitor window. Click camera.bat to get the ID number of your camera or capture card, and then select that number with the camera selector.
      OBS Window Capture gives people issues, and we've since found using the camera selector to be more reliable on more computers

  • @awful999
    @awful999 Год назад

    homie does all that just to put it inna quick ball

  • @zaojakify
    @zaojakify 2 года назад +1

    Heck yeah man keep up the content 👏 hope your channel keeps growing

  • @SoyKayTbCGames
    @SoyKayTbCGames 2 года назад

    I'm waiting for a video where you teach how to rng with honey trees

  • @neurophilosophers994
    @neurophilosophers994 2 года назад

    3092 was my target and I got either 2661/2/3 they were all identical somehow so that means I’m still early so less delay so I’ll take that 1795 down to about 143 based on the same premise from before so 1652

  • @Shadows9980
    @Shadows9980 Год назад

    Papa Jefe how did you create your delay?

  • @Dkailie
    @Dkailie Год назад

    How entertaining is this way of doing it.
    What would be the difference of starting with camera or with cofig secret base?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  Год назад +1

      The different configs are essentially just saved presets. Any config can be modified to match any encounter, they are just recommended starting points from people who have already successfully completed the RNG.

  • @yabski_
    @yabski_ 2 года назад

    what program are you using to preview your game? i have a hd 60 s and the el gato game capture program isnt playing nice with Player Blink. My progress is stuck at 0/0 and I have to deselect "monitor window" to get my game to show up in the program and whenever it is selected, nothing works

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      Monitor Window isn't necessary. If you can get a preview without it, use that.
      PlayerBlink has two ways to get a video feed, Camera Index and Monitor Window. Different setups will have an easier time depending on operating system and capture device.

  • @anggelobelletti4027
    @anggelobelletti4027 Год назад

    Bro I just figure out your videos 3 days ago , I’m watching all of them , thank you for showing me this new world of rng

  • @neurophilosophers994
    @neurophilosophers994 2 года назад +1

    Just saw you catch shiny Arceus on twitch that’s so sick haha I just got 34 frames too early for shaymin on my latest attempt will try again tomorrow haha

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +1

      You're so close now! You're gonna get it :D

    • @Hawkeyes2017
      @Hawkeyes2017 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT Can I still get a shiny shaymin without doing this? By doing a lot of runaways? It won’t matter by worrying about the frames? Just do it the old fashion way not worry about movements?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      @@Hawkeyes2017 Yes of course. Runaways are the best normal shiny method.

  • @05BIRDMAN09
    @05BIRDMAN09 2 года назад

    Why is the secret base config not working for me when I want to preview or monitor the blinks. Plz Help!!

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      Consider joining the discord (link in desc) I can help ppl better there.

  • @PeaceLoveMusic504
    @PeaceLoveMusic504 2 года назад

    Hey if someone could help me, i have the eye monitor software installed correctly and have the blue box around my eye, within a red box just like Papa Jefe, however when I click monitor blinks, it is not counting the blinks in the progress section. Any help?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад

      Click stop preview, before you click monitor Blinks.
      The command prompt window shows error messages, it should say something to that effect.

  • @sonicstyle6590
    @sonicstyle6590 2 года назад

    Why sometimes the blinks doesnt register? Is very annoying.

  • @tenebrarum91
    @tenebrarum91 2 года назад

    I got it with this method after 17 tries

  • @Orangeninja5000
    @Orangeninja5000 2 года назад

    I am assuming this isn't possible using just a switch, you'll need to be on a computer?

    • @PapaJefeYT
      @PapaJefeYT  2 года назад +1

      You need both unfortunately. A Switch to run the game, and then a computer to view the video with a camera\capture card.

    • @Orangeninja5000
      @Orangeninja5000 2 года назад

      @@PapaJefeYT Darn. Back to good ol SRing

  • @shadowmaker8402
    @shadowmaker8402 Год назад

    To bad not everyone can use this