I agree with this, my favourite human character was Boone, I thought his depiction of a man working against the Taelon's but still willing to try and understand them particularly with his conversations with Da'an.
Liam was always complaining to Da'an about how the Taelons were trying to dominate humanity with their tech in nearly every episode and I thought it was annoying. The relationship between Da'an and Zo'or I really enjoyed. Loved the show!
For me, I lost interest basically by mid way through the second season. Them killing off Boone did not make any sense at all to me. Of the human characters, only Boone and Sandoval had anything approaching real depth. In fact "Sandoval's Run" was probably one of the best SF episodes I'd seen until BSG ten years later. It was a shame, alltough some of the episodes in the 1st season I would class as average, many of them were really good. So for me this is a show that really only had one season and I think maybe it would have been better cancelled after that.
This show turns in to garbage, it's just one slap in the face after the other. Again after season 2 it's trash and they kill off every main character. This series was based of genes "notes", he had nothing to do with it.
I know this is a few years late, but I just watched the show on Amazon. What The Frack??? They spent 4 seasons on "The Taelons are running out of time! We must save the Taelons!" only to let them become degenerated Atavis in that underground bunker? And we never see Da'an again (my favorite character). If becoming Atavis was the goal all along, they could have done it on their own like they did before. Da'an as an Atavis could have been interesting, but they never explained exactly what happened. We just see a lot of Atavis in Season 5, some of whom came to earth previously... What a MESS! This show could have been an all time great one, but someone totally screwed it up! Still, I loved watching Da'an...
George Orwell believed that we would be enslaved by the things that gave us the greatest pains.Aldous Huxley believed we would be enslaved by the things that gave us the greatest pleasures.This show proved the latter.
Wow I'm glad to have seen this now! Season 4 ended on British television today, season 5 starts on Monday and I'd kind of decided to let it go, but now I definitely will! I really liked Da'an and really disliked Zo'or but Taelon characters were familiar. I have no desire whatever to begin on a 5th series with all new characters! Thanks, standinstann, you've done me a big favour!
Great review. While I think Babylon 5 rose to the occasion even moreso than EFC, this show showed what you could do when you let science fiction on TV become something greater. Sandoval was often the most interesting human character at times despite being the villain. The slow revelation of the Taelon's agenda was done greatly, I think, but my problem with it is that it became too episodic.
I really liked your review! I cared about the human characters, but much more about Sandoval, Augur, Doors, and Lili. I did grow to like Renee, until season 5, at which point I resented her for even being involved with the show. Robert Leeshock's level of acting is much better suited to his nipple-painting Zegerid OTC commercial. It was all kind of a big sci fi soap opera, and that's why I loved it.
I only saw the first season but I enjoyed it. I heard a lot of people lost interest when they switched from Boon to Liam. A lot of these shows tend to suffer from story drift. Either no one ever writes a bible for the show - or, as happened with Andromeda - the studio falls out with the guy that wrote it and burns it.
I would love to hear a review of farscape (series and miniseries), and then reviews of the upcoming webisodes as they air! (There's also talk of bringing the show back in some form if the webisodes do well!)
I thought E:FC was original as well, but not for the reasons you stated. The idea of aliens coming to earth as benevelent ambassadors to the stars, bestowing gifts of technology and enlightenment, but with sinister ulterior motives has been done before. And was done really well. I do recommend you check out the show V.
i just saw the final episode of season 4 and if it was not for season 5 how would we have known what original atavus was like or if liam was correct? i dunno thats just my opinion after seeing da'an and vorjak gone it makes me wonder what the hell happened to augur
i TOTALLY agree with Stan's opinion of season 5. when this series was out, i watched it religiously, i would even see episodes id seen before, even though i knew practically every line, because it was so well done. there was maybe a handful of episodes from the first 4 seasons that i never saw, but it wasnt from lack of trying.
Thanks Matthew, I kindof let it pass by in the 90's as it didn't look like my thing. Maybe I'll give season 1 a try in the best quality. Some shows are starting to suck these days but.. eh. Let's find out. 2009 post? Golden RUclips times.
can anyone tell me where I can buy the serie on dvd? I only have the 1st season. and where it concerns caracters, I find Sandoval best, then Daan and zoor, the rest not so much.
There are 5 seasons?? I've never seen beyond season 2 before it was cancelled where I'm from, and couldn't find anywhere else to watch it... Thanks for telling me, I'll have to track the series down sometime.
Losing so many main characters is always a killing move for a series . The reason was the actors wanted more money and the production company said no . The first season was more like X-files we didn't get much answers only suspicions the seasons after this were a lot different and often cleared up the old plots. The major messages of the show form season 1 to 4(in season 5 only a tiny bit) were often finding some spiritual truth(some times practical) in a highly technology environment About the background before the Taylons showed up earth was again on the bring of a nuclear war but this was the Indian -Pakistan conflict and it seem other conflict resurged similar how it is today. This were humanity said it is enough so they were all too wiling to accept help from aliens.
That was pretty good, keep them coming. (subscribe) I liked EFC too but the one thing that bugged me about it even when it was at its best was the constant cast recycling. Boone, Lili, Sandoval, Doors and Augur were great. I hated Renee, Liam, Juliet and everything in the last season. Are you saying that you and your brother never got into Stargateshame its a pretty good show. Its probably the best of all the sci-fi brought up in this review.
do you read any siece fiction? if so you might want to try a very popular series called DUNE. there is a lot of political intrige as well as an intersting look at ecology religon and freewill
any chance you could give a review of that show mabye one day. i think your brother liked it he said it was one of the only shows to well be based off a movie that worked and actully i think its becoming just like star trek lol.
I loved sandoval, he was the best character of the serie. (with da'an zo'or and boone at 2nd 3rd and 4th place) he was hero and villain (I can`t really put it in the right words)
If any show could use a good reboot to actually utilize its original potential, this would be it. Hey, Ronald Moore, if your Caprica spinoff doesn't pan out....
I agree with EVERYTHING you said about Earth: Final Conflict. The two main Taelon characters, Boone, and Sandoval, were excellent and I couldn't believe it when Boone was killed off. Contract dispute? i don't know. As you said, Season Five is Garbage. I never even saw the last episode, but I'm binge-watching the show on Amazon Prime at this time. As for other Science Fiction shows ... I was born in 1960 and began reading Science Fiction in 5th grade, though I watched The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits in reruns, as well as Star Trek in first run, though at age 6 and 7 it was over my head. In reruns I loved Star Trek. I liked all the Captains and main characters in every spin-off including Discovery, though some series were better than others. Season One of Earth Final Conflict was excellent, and things went down from there, til I didn't care anymore in the 5th season . I thought Babylon 5 was as good as Star Trek TNG. Stargate SG-1 was excellent for the first few seasons but was only good thereafter. Firefly was excellent and way too short lived, just as good as the best Star Trek, in my humble opinion. I also don't watch much TV. Football and maybe one show in original airing and one older show. Keep making vidoes!
Oh, yes, some one gave you a hint to see Babylon 5! You should see it! I love that show! The character interaction is absolutely fantastic! If you see it, keep a close watch on G'kar and Lando's relationship! It's a complex, political, psichological and spiritual sci-fi show that keeps with you long after you see it!
Yep, Babylon 5 is amazing. Only bad thing is it usually takes 1-2 seasons before you realize just how damn good it is. People often try it but stop watching before then and miss out on so much.
Good review! I looooved many elements of this show, but the flaws got to me eventually. Still... Sandoval, Zo'or, the political overtures- all AWESOME!
I really need to get this off my chest-It seems to me that the Resistance could just kill the Taelons just by using those skrills. I mean, if they hate them or whatever becasue they were 'dominating the planet' with WONDERFUL technology and world peace! That 's a freakin' joke! I think the reason they wern't just killed off one by one like they would in other sci-fi shows is that they appeared gentle, frail, ect. Their voices and the blue color correspond to that benevolence.
I find it very interesting that here in England on what we call 'The Horror Channel' on Freeview television, they have actually been through this series twice now, but recently they began showing it on the Sci-Fi 6pm - 9pm section. You get one show a night and then on Saturday morning you get an omnibus edition. Earth Final Conflict followed that course through series 1 - 4, but once Season 5 started ... no more Saturday morning omnibus; we get Star Trek the Original Series instead now. Frankly I see no point to series 5 at all, it might as well have been a completely different series. Da'an and Zo'or were the stars of this series - so why remove them completely from the 5th series? That would be like blowing up the Babylon 5 space station, but continuing the series and still calling it Babylon 5! Total nonsense - and a good series completely ruined.
Fun fact earth final conflict takes place in 2199 which means if it's in the same universe as Star Trek it was actually before Star Trek as Star Trek took place in 2266 and I actually do believe that Earth final conflict is in the same universe and what is what happened before Star Trek.
Season five was the final straw. One could tell that there was absolutely nothing left. Most of the familiar faces were gone and plot turned upside down. Was a totally different show. The whole day thing should have just ended a few seasons earlier.
I found it interesting that the Talons presented as cold and calculating female mother figures, trying to find ways to continue to birth new members of their race having faced an existential problem with gestation; while their cosmic adversaries the Jaridians presented as a hot primal male dominant race so energetic that they were close to physically burning themselves out. That the primordial race of the Avatars was a combination of both races was perhaps the only interesting thing about them and season 5. I find it sad that the character of Sandoval was not allowed to find redemption in the main time line of the show and that the characters of Da'an and Zo'or were typecast as good and evil whatever the arc of the plot line became. These shows are always better with more plot twists and character developments. Interesting how the Avatars were recreated in Stargate Atlantis as the Wraith race both having been evil ancient enemies of mankind and feeders off the human life force.
I agree with you totally! Season 5 was a complete turnover from the show, in a very bad way! The show really should have ended in season 4- the way I would see it is the Taelons & Jaridians should have been saved in that volcano, Sandoval died on the mothership & Liam & Renee leave Earth & travel thoughout the universe!
i judge your review the same way i judge efc 4/5th's of it were awesome but u lost your way towards the end ^_^ i agree with almost everything you said, and really enjoyed the Boone character, i would have rather had another season with him, as for the liam character id have to disagree with you in that he was also intriguing, and which he acted more boyish and innocent (yet really inteligent, and aware of all political implications) alot more than just for the first 2 episodes he's introduced
My problem with this series was Zo'or and his smug moustache-twirling demeanor; he seemed to enjoy plotting to kill Da'an and he had “look, bad guy” written all over him. It would be better if he were more so the Taeon counterpart to Jonathan doors: authoritarian and an extremist, but not a smug sadist. Doors tried to have Liam killed, but he didn't do it with a smug face enjoying it, but because he thought it was necessary and thought Liam a liability. It would be more interesting if Zo'or were more like that, rather than the cartoon villain that he is.
I like how you sound in this video much more then the others you've been in, however in this review you cover *too* much content at once. I love a good overview of a season but the other problem I have with the review is that you have more good to say then bad. I'm not sure if that's a good idea, that you'll only be reviewing good points of movies and shows. Lastly I really don't like the intro, but I still look forward to the next video.
then went into the crapper again when the Taelons became....whatever it was that they became ! then i really didn't care about the show anymore ! and that's a shame because the Taelons were a brilliant creation !
yep, and he needs to keep watching. B5 is NOT the sort of show you can watch 5 episodes and then decide if you like it. Need to watch a season or ideally 2
i prefer Andromeda the story is so unique in a way almost comparable to battlestar galactica or babylon 5. plus it didnt make me yawn as much like in EFC half the time. Andromeda has a great cast playing dynamic characters who actually make an attempt at real intelligent conversations. any of u guys ever played a game called Mass Effect it kinda embodies the same concept.
Sadly both these post Gene Roddenberry sci-fi TV shows (Earth Final Conflict and Andromeda) started out so good and became dull and boring later on throughout their runs. but even sadder still is though Andromeda was good for at least 3 seasons. Earth Final Conflict's premise was destroyed soon after they killed off Boone in season 1 however. His revival later on was a case of; too little, too late i'm afraid!
Well - there's 7 minutes and change that I'll never get back. I would point out, though, that in your review, while you are telling us all what a good guy Da'an is - you failed to mention that he was a completely evil SOB during season 1 (i.e. -it was HIS idea to come to Earth in the first place, AND he orchestrated the death of Boone's wife). I'm actually only mildly familiar with the show - it's more my wife's thing...but even I know this fact, which you left out. Also - ditch that opening.
Earth Final conflict was good up until season 4,Season 5 was an abomination since it was basically Buffy the vampire slayer in space. Most of the stories are well written, Bare in mind that this show is not a big budget production like the X-files.
BOONE (KEVIN KILNER) was the focal character. the first storylines were well done, but, it seems the synod had a duel dilemma''. years 3/.4.5., just plain stunk. The TAELONS were too secretive They claimed they were there for humanity,but ,had ulterior momemnts. i really liked AUGUR, a rogue character , that had everyone fooled. As for LILIY , she was too inneffective and not very attractive.
I reached season 4. Ive started to lose interest. The first 3 seasons i give it 9 over 10. Season 3 should have been the end of the arc . Then start another arc with different characters...
Yea not hardley Orginal. V was 1st made in the 80s and later again remade in early 2000s. Its as if "they" are trying to tell us something. Pave the way for somethings in tje near future.
when season 4 ended, it gave you the impression that season 5 would be the best, that the subtle intrigues would be replaced by a whole new era of hope and optimism. whoever wrote the fifth season should hang his head in shame and give up the profession of writing forever, because he/she/it/them took the best possible season hook and turned it into a river of shit by turning the aliens into retards who just killed people. i maybe saw 2-3 episodes of that season, and gave up on it entirely
Makes me laugh when I see the Irish Companion protector talking about Runes - Oh and 'Celtic Runes' at that. Runes were a Germanic writing system used by the Anglo-Saxons (i.e. English), Vikings, etc. They were not Irish, Celtic, and were never used by them. They had a writing system called the the Ogham Just another load of twaddle because lazy researchers would rather propagate the same old romantic nonsense about Ireland and the Irish without any kind of accuracy.
seasons 1 thru 4 are ok. tight writing but plots that went nowhere. season 5 is completely off the rails. the only good part was zo'or returning as an atavus. this, if continued, would have saved the show.
no worth to comment - even 5th season contains ancient wisdom... for one who can see finds the wisdom and beauty everywhere... one who cannot see - well... creates such ego driven clip - cu in another dimension or better not
The first saison was great but after that it went downhill and the last season is unwatchable ... for me the best series stays babylon 5 ... for the stories , the battles , the looks , ...
No one can ever accuse Arthur Clark of not being original. The scenerio in Childhoods End was a little different though. I don't want to give to much away, but it seemed to me that the Aliens weren't sinister or evil. They just weren't forthright about their real reasons for being there. And ultimately believed they were there to help mankind...in a way that mankind wouldn't really understand.
I agree with this, my favourite human character was Boone, I thought his depiction of a man working against the Taelon's but still willing to try and understand them particularly with his conversations with Da'an.
Liam was always complaining to Da'an about how the Taelons were trying to dominate humanity with their tech in nearly every episode and I thought it was annoying. The relationship between Da'an and Zo'or I really enjoyed.
Loved the show!
Do not forget Daan constantly telling Zoor he is doing bad, and thats it! Nothing else. Daan turned, at the end into a helpless fool.
For me, I lost interest basically by mid way through the second season. Them killing off Boone did not make any sense at all to me. Of the human characters, only Boone and Sandoval had anything approaching real depth. In fact "Sandoval's Run" was probably one of the best SF episodes I'd seen until BSG ten years later. It was a shame, alltough some of the episodes in the 1st season I would class as average, many of them were really good. So for me this is a show that really only had one season and I think maybe it would have been better cancelled after that.
sonofcy they killed boone because the actor quit
@@novoeduardoac1248 Could have recast the character
For me the show died with boone.
@@novoeduardoac1248 From what I read, they screwed around with renewal, so he voted with his feet.
When William Boone died my childhood heart broke! 😔
Congrats for an insighting and awesomely spoiler free review!
Holy crap, I didn't think this show was SO forgotten! This is the only review I could find that had over 1k views...
here it is 2019 and I have only just found this series -- must say, I am thoroughly enjoying it. Gene Roddenberry was a genius storyteller!
Yes me 2 I want season 1 episode 8 I'm loving this show already
@jamal robinson Even with the dated cgi and tech?
This show turns in to garbage, it's just one slap in the face after the other. Again after season 2 it's trash and they kill off every main character. This series was based of genes "notes", he had nothing to do with it.
inspired by a synode of 9 out of body characters
I like the fact that they made the show complicated ,like real life.
I know this is a few years late, but I just watched the show on Amazon. What The Frack??? They spent 4 seasons on "The Taelons are running out of time! We must save the Taelons!" only to let them become degenerated Atavis in that underground bunker? And we never see Da'an again (my favorite character). If becoming Atavis was the goal all along, they could have done it on their own like they did before. Da'an as an Atavis could have been interesting, but they never explained exactly what happened. We just see a lot of Atavis in Season 5, some of whom came to earth previously... What a MESS!
This show could have been an all time great one, but someone totally screwed it up! Still, I loved watching Da'an...
Yep, it's wildly erratic for "behind the scenes" reasons.
George Orwell believed that we would be enslaved by the things that gave us the greatest pains.Aldous Huxley believed we would be enslaved by the things that gave us the greatest pleasures.This show proved the latter.
Wow I'm glad to have seen this now! Season 4 ended on British television today, season 5 starts on Monday and I'd kind of decided to let it go, but now I definitely will! I really liked Da'an and really disliked Zo'or but Taelon characters were familiar. I have no desire whatever to begin on a 5th series with all new characters! Thanks, standinstann, you've done me a big favour!
That was one of my favorite tv shows .
Great review. While I think Babylon 5 rose to the occasion even moreso than EFC, this show showed what you could do when you let science fiction on TV become something greater.
Sandoval was often the most interesting human character at times despite being the villain. The slow revelation of the Taelon's agenda was done greatly, I think, but my problem with it is that it became too episodic.
Was excellent, plus the fact that he was a more down to earth man, a good man doing the best he could.
cool review i hope to see more
I really liked your review! I cared about the human characters, but much more about Sandoval, Augur, Doors, and Lili. I did grow to like Renee, until season 5, at which point I resented her for even being involved with the show. Robert Leeshock's level of acting is much better suited to his nipple-painting Zegerid OTC commercial.
It was all kind of a big sci fi soap opera, and that's why I loved it.
I only saw the first season but I enjoyed it. I heard a lot of people lost interest when they switched from Boon to Liam.
A lot of these shows tend to suffer from story drift. Either no one ever writes a bible for the show - or, as happened with Andromeda - the studio falls out with the guy that wrote it and burns it.
V for visitors, was Gene's inspiration for this show
I would love to hear a review of farscape (series and miniseries), and then reviews of the upcoming webisodes as they air! (There's also talk of bringing the show back in some form if the webisodes do well!)
I thought E:FC was original as well, but not for the reasons you stated. The idea of aliens coming to earth as benevelent ambassadors to the stars, bestowing gifts of technology and enlightenment, but with sinister ulterior motives has been done before. And was done really well. I do recommend you check out the show V.
sweet theme song!
Love that Simpsons reference at the end =)
i just saw the final episode of season 4 and if it was not for season 5 how would we have known what original atavus was like or if liam was correct? i dunno thats just my opinion after seeing da'an and vorjak gone it makes me wonder what the hell happened to augur
i TOTALLY agree with Stan's opinion of season 5. when this series was out, i watched it religiously, i would even see episodes id seen before, even though i knew practically every line, because it was so well done. there was maybe a handful of episodes from the first 4 seasons that i never saw, but it wasnt from lack of trying.
Thanks Matthew, I kindof let it pass by in the 90's as it didn't look like my thing. Maybe I'll give season 1 a try in the best quality. Some shows are starting to suck these days but.. eh. Let's find out. 2009 post? Golden RUclips times.
can anyone tell me where I can buy the serie on dvd? I only have the 1st season.
and where it concerns caracters, I find Sandoval best, then Daan and zoor, the rest not so much.
There are 5 seasons?? I've never seen beyond season 2 before it was cancelled where I'm from, and couldn't find anywhere else to watch it... Thanks for telling me, I'll have to track the series down sometime.
So what were the Talons really after?
better then nothing XD
you do good stan, you fill the shoes well
Losing so many main characters is always a killing move for a series . The reason was the actors wanted more money and the production company said no .
The first season was more like X-files we didn't get much answers only suspicions the seasons after this were a lot different and often cleared up the old plots. The major messages of the show form season 1 to 4(in season 5 only a tiny bit) were often finding some spiritual truth(some times practical) in a highly technology environment
About the background before the Taylons showed up earth was again on the bring of a nuclear war but this was the Indian -Pakistan conflict and it seem other conflict resurged similar how it is today. This were humanity said it is enough so they were all too wiling to accept help from aliens.
That was pretty good, keep them coming. (subscribe)
I liked EFC too but the one thing that bugged me about it even when it was at its best was the constant cast recycling. Boone, Lili, Sandoval, Doors and Augur were great. I hated Renee, Liam, Juliet and everything in the last season.
Are you saying that you and your brother never got into Stargateshame its a pretty good show. Its probably the best of all the sci-fi brought up in this review.
its interesting how the iphone 4 is based off the global used in EFC
do you read any siece fiction?
if so you might want to try a very popular series called DUNE. there is a lot of political intrige as well as an intersting look at ecology religon and freewill
any chance you could give a review of that show mabye one day. i think your brother liked it he said it was one of the only shows to well be based off a movie that worked and actully i think its becoming just like star trek lol.
Subbed for skies!
I loved sandoval, he was the best character of the serie. (with da'an zo'or and boone at 2nd 3rd and 4th place) he was hero and villain (I can`t really put it in the right words)
I think anti-hero is more fitting for Sandoval. He rocked!
If any show could use a good reboot to actually utilize its original potential, this would be it. Hey, Ronald Moore, if your Caprica spinoff doesn't pan out....
I agree with EVERYTHING you said about Earth: Final Conflict. The two main Taelon characters, Boone, and Sandoval, were excellent and I couldn't believe it when Boone was killed off. Contract dispute? i don't know. As you said, Season Five is Garbage. I never even saw the last episode, but I'm binge-watching the show on Amazon Prime at this time.
As for other Science Fiction shows ... I was born in 1960 and began reading Science Fiction in 5th grade, though I watched The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits in reruns, as well as Star Trek in first run, though at age 6 and 7 it was over my head. In reruns I loved Star Trek. I liked all the Captains and main characters in every spin-off including Discovery, though some series were better than others. Season One of Earth Final Conflict was excellent, and things went down from there, til I didn't care anymore in the 5th season .
I thought Babylon 5 was as good as Star Trek TNG. Stargate SG-1 was excellent for the first few seasons but was only good thereafter. Firefly was excellent and way too short lived, just as good as the best Star Trek, in my humble opinion.
I also don't watch much TV. Football and maybe one show in original airing and one older show.
Keep making vidoes!
Oh, yes, some one gave you a hint to see Babylon 5!
You should see it! I love that show! The character interaction is absolutely fantastic!
If you see it, keep a close watch on G'kar and Lando's relationship!
It's a complex, political, psichological and spiritual sci-fi show that keeps with you long after you see it!
Yep, Babylon 5 is amazing.
Only bad thing is it usually takes 1-2 seasons before you realize just how damn good it is.
People often try it but stop watching before then and miss out on so much.
Aside from the last season, I agree 100%.
What was the point of season 5?
Good review! I looooved many elements of this show, but the flaws got to me eventually. Still... Sandoval, Zo'or, the political overtures- all AWESOME!
I really need to get this off my chest-It seems to me that the Resistance could just kill the Taelons just by using those skrills. I mean, if they hate them or whatever becasue they were 'dominating the planet' with WONDERFUL technology and world peace! That 's a freakin' joke! I think the reason they wern't just killed off one by one like they would in other sci-fi shows is that they appeared gentle, frail, ect. Their voices and the blue color correspond to that benevolence.
they should make a prequel too this series. And have it be the taelon's first three years on Earth.
I find it very interesting that here in England on what we call 'The Horror Channel' on Freeview television, they have actually been through this series twice now, but recently they began showing it on the Sci-Fi 6pm - 9pm section. You get one show a night and then on Saturday morning you get an omnibus edition. Earth Final Conflict followed that course through series 1 - 4, but once Season 5 started ... no more Saturday morning omnibus; we get Star Trek the Original Series instead now. Frankly I see no point to series 5 at all, it might as well have been a completely different series. Da'an and Zo'or were the stars of this series - so why remove them completely from the 5th series? That would be like blowing up the Babylon 5 space station, but continuing the series and still calling it Babylon 5! Total nonsense - and a good series completely ruined.
Fun fact earth final conflict takes place in 2199 which means if it's in the same universe as Star Trek it was actually before Star Trek as Star Trek took place in 2266 and I actually do believe that Earth final conflict is in the same universe and what is what happened before Star Trek.
Waiy... all the 90s cars and fashion was actually set in 2199??
i'm going to have that song in my head forrrever. also i now must go watch this show AND ITS ALL YOUR FALT!
I remember seeing 'Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda' being advertised and thinking it was a new Star Trek.
Not seen this review for yrs
Season five was the final straw. One could tell that there was absolutely nothing left. Most of the familiar faces were gone and plot turned upside down. Was a totally different show. The whole day thing should have just ended a few seasons earlier.
I found it interesting that the Talons presented as cold and calculating female mother figures, trying to find ways to continue to birth new members of their race having faced an existential problem with gestation; while their cosmic adversaries the Jaridians presented as a hot primal male dominant race so energetic that they were close to physically burning themselves out. That the primordial race of the Avatars was a combination of both races was perhaps the only interesting thing about them and season 5. I find it sad that the character of Sandoval was not allowed to find redemption in the main time line of the show and that the characters of Da'an and Zo'or were typecast as good and evil whatever the arc of the plot line became. These shows are always better with more plot twists and character developments. Interesting how the Avatars were recreated in Stargate Atlantis as the Wraith race both having been evil ancient enemies of mankind and feeders off the human life force.
I agree with you totally! Season 5 was a complete turnover from the show, in a very bad way!
The show really should have ended in season 4- the way I would see it is the Taelons & Jaridians should have been saved in that volcano, Sandoval died on the mothership & Liam & Renee leave Earth & travel thoughout the universe!
You need to put a trap beat on to that theme song
I dont know what that is.
i judge your review the same way i judge efc 4/5th's of it were awesome but u lost your way towards the end ^_^
i agree with almost everything you said, and really enjoyed the Boone character, i would have rather had another season with him, as for the liam character id have to disagree with you in that he was also intriguing, and which he acted more boyish and innocent (yet really inteligent, and aware of all political implications) alot more than just for the first 2 episodes he's introduced
My problem with this series was Zo'or and his smug moustache-twirling demeanor; he seemed to enjoy plotting to kill Da'an and he had “look, bad guy” written all over him.
It would be better if he were more so the Taeon counterpart to Jonathan doors: authoritarian and an extremist, but not a smug sadist.
Doors tried to have Liam killed, but he didn't do it with a smug face enjoying it, but because he thought it was necessary and thought Liam a liability.
It would be more interesting if Zo'or were more like that, rather than the cartoon villain that he is.
well though I don't disagree with the assessment of season 5 completely, thanks for ofending me
I like how you sound in this video much more then the others you've been in, however in this review you cover *too* much content at once. I love a good overview of a season but the other problem I have with the review is that you have more good to say then bad. I'm not sure if that's a good idea, that you'll only be reviewing good points of movies and shows. Lastly I really don't like the intro, but I still look forward to the next video.
4:44 Killed off? What? You can't kill off a lead how did the show survive that? That's impossible, especially for the 90s
I have not seen this show. but it sounds very much like the 80s show V.
i never liked Sandyvol. I did like Book and Kincade both. I thought it odd though that with Kincades abilities he resorted to guns most of the time.
Myers could us Midnight Sun to start the series over and focus on good writing and characters
Yes, he is.
I choose to only acknowledge the 1st season.
I was thinking that
Babylon 5 didn't hold your atention? It seems like a show you'd really like.
This show went into the crapper when they couldn't work out a deal to keep Kevin Kilner
then went into the crapper again when the Taelons became....whatever it was that they became ! then i really didn't care about the show anymore ! and that's a shame because the Taelons were a brilliant creation !
They became the atavus
Good lord you need to watch Babylon 5, it pretty much set the bar for sci fi writing.
yep, and he needs to keep watching. B5 is NOT the sort of show you can watch 5 episodes and then decide if you like it.
Need to watch a season or ideally 2
Hey carefull with that, you know what happened to Bush after he put that up.
OOOO right, nothing. Nevermind.
i prefer Andromeda the story is so unique in a way almost comparable to battlestar galactica or babylon 5. plus it didnt make me yawn as much like in EFC half the time. Andromeda has a great cast playing dynamic characters who actually make an attempt at real intelligent conversations. any of u guys ever played a game called Mass Effect it kinda embodies the same concept.
Sadly both these post Gene Roddenberry sci-fi TV shows (Earth Final Conflict and Andromeda) started out so good and became dull and boring later on throughout their runs. but even sadder still is though Andromeda was good for at least 3 seasons. Earth Final Conflict's premise was destroyed soon after they killed off Boone in season 1 however. His revival later on was a case of; too little, too late i'm afraid!
You should review the Twilight book or movie. Don't try to subject yourself to both.
Well - there's 7 minutes and change that I'll never get back. I would point out, though, that in your review, while you are telling us all what a good guy Da'an is - you failed to mention that he was a completely evil SOB during season 1 (i.e. -it was HIS idea to come to Earth in the first place, AND he orchestrated the death of Boone's wife). I'm actually only mildly familiar with the show - it's more my wife's thing...but even I know this fact, which you left out. Also - ditch that opening.
I think their is a reason you are the only defender for this not love story/not vampire story.
I liked that show.
But it lost a lot of its potential after Boone(Boon?!) was gone.
Colony , V #1 V #2. The Stargate universe. Last star fighter. Etc etc. A deception is soon coming. Don't be decived.
Earth Final conflict was good up until season 4,Season 5 was an abomination since it was basically Buffy the vampire slayer in space.
Most of the stories are well written, Bare in mind that this show is not a big budget production like the X-files.
HAHA its not better then confused mathew but its better then nothing. nice i think i like the op theme better then mathew's.
BOONE (KEVIN KILNER) was the focal character. the first storylines were well done, but, it seems the synod had a duel dilemma''. years 3/.4.5., just plain stunk. The TAELONS were too secretive They claimed they were there for humanity,but ,had ulterior momemnts. i really liked AUGUR, a rogue character , that had everyone fooled. As for LILIY , she was too inneffective and not very attractive.
I reached season 4. Ive started to lose interest. The first 3 seasons i give it 9 over 10. Season 3 should have been the end of the arc . Then start another arc with different characters...
Yea not hardley Orginal. V was 1st made in the 80s and later again remade in early 2000s. Its as if "they" are trying to tell us something. Pave the way for somethings in tje near future.
you never liked stargate...
Your putting Earth Final Conflict above Babylon 5? Blasphemy.
It really picks up and turns into much more than just a trek clone after season 1.
when season 4 ended, it gave you the impression that season 5 would be the best, that the subtle intrigues would be replaced by a whole new era of hope and optimism. whoever wrote the fifth season should hang his head in shame and give up the profession of writing forever, because he/she/it/them took the best possible season hook and turned it into a river of shit by turning the aliens into retards who just killed people. i maybe saw 2-3 episodes of that season, and gave up on it entirely
Makes me laugh when I see the Irish Companion protector talking about Runes - Oh and 'Celtic Runes' at that. Runes were a Germanic writing system used by the Anglo-Saxons (i.e. English), Vikings, etc. They were not Irish, Celtic, and were never used by them. They had a writing system called the the Ogham Just another load of twaddle because lazy researchers would rather propagate the same old romantic nonsense about Ireland and the Irish without any kind of accuracy.
What the hell is going on in season 5? Watched this with the hopes it would get better, what a disappointment
Season 1 was perfect. Season 2-4 was a random jumbled mess. Season 5 was horrible, with the only redeeming factor was having Boone come back.
You did not like Babylon 5?....HEATHEN...!!🤬
seasons 1 thru 4 are ok. tight writing but plots that went nowhere. season 5 is completely off the rails. the only good part was zo'or returning as an atavus. this, if continued, would have saved the show.
no worth to comment - even 5th season contains ancient wisdom... for one who can see finds the wisdom and beauty everywhere... one who cannot see - well... creates such ego driven clip - cu in another dimension or better not
The first saison was great but after that it went downhill and the last season is unwatchable ... for me the best series stays babylon 5 ... for the stories , the battles , the looks , ...
Stargate rules, this not...
No one can ever accuse Arthur Clark of not being original. The scenerio in Childhoods End was a little different though. I don't want to give to much away, but it seemed to me that the Aliens weren't sinister or evil. They just weren't forthright about their real reasons for being there. And ultimately believed they were there to help mankind...in a way that mankind wouldn't really understand.
Why does everyone love Boone so much? The character was boring and the actor was HORRIBLE.
Sandoval and all of the Taleons were the stars of the show.
Yes season 5 was bad. Kill of the whole alien race. and trying to create a new race. WHYYYY. Actually missed the tylons and there mischief ways.