@@sza2bomI agree, a large sample size could help rule out genetics too. Next summer I’ll do an outdoor experiment with this stuff and I’ll have more room for plants!
That's the only true way to know different phenos and genetics can varry greatly in yeilds, pest resistance etc..even under the exact same growing conditions. Only way to test if mycorrize gives better yields is test on same plant using clones and have everything else the same like same pot size, same amount of nutrients same amount of water etc..
Very cool! Oddly enough, I am growing three cayenne pepper plants that I planned to toss after they sprouted to test two if the seeds I saved this year for viability. It was my first attempt to do so and germination was 100% successful for the two saved seeds and the seed from the original pack. Fast forward over a month and one it crazy tall with buds already. The other one I saved is doing well, but the plant from the seed pack is doing pretty meh. I have another larger pot to use to pot up the plants, so I may add this ie something like it to see if it changes the trajectory of things 👊🏻🌶👊🏻
I believe the flowers you get on the taller plants with the larger root mass is due to it being root bound. I have 2 sugar rush peach planted on same day directly sow on 3 and 5 gallon. The half filled 3 gallon grow bag had flowers in the 3rd month, the 5 gallon 3/4 filled with soil, now towards the 4 month only just started having flower buds. The plant that had early flower is shorter by 15cm.
@ControllerPassAway I agree completely! Someone should do an experiment with different sized pots! I've been doing this for quite sometime and I get so frustrated walking by the pepper plants at Lowes or Home Depot in July and the plants have 3x as many large size peppers than mine! In a stupid quart sized pot!
@@JeffWooten-w3b If you grow Chinense, the yield is also affected by the number of forks at the 1st node. That is largely pre-determined by genetics. I have plants with 1 vertical, 2 side fork a few cm from one another and plants with 2 fork looking like a Y. The ghost pepper with more fork always outperform in terms of yield. I didn't top any of them, but the plant with less fork is taller.
You needed to test on same phenos to get true test results the mycorrize plants could have just been a more robust pheno. That being said mycorrize does help the plant uptake nutrients helps with drout resistance helps protect the plant from diease etc.. tricaderma is another amazing beneficial plant fungi similar to mycorrize. I use tricaderma as well.
You are definitely right a bigger sample size of the same pheno would make for clearer results. I’m going to try to do something like that this summer. I will have to do something research on the tricaderma!
I’ll have to give that fungi a try. After watching your videos and how many varieties of peppers there actually are, I planted two habaneros to get started and they’re thriving! However, even though I started them at the same time, with the same light source, one is so much larger than the other 🤔 but I’m assuming that’s just genetics. Very informative videos! 😄
Awesome! Glad that your plants are doing well. What do you plan to do with the fresh habaneros? Genetics definitely plays a big role. One commenter suggested that I repeat this test with clones of the same plant to rule that out. I think a bigger sample size would help as well.
Really interesting video. I will say that if they were grown in the cups next to each other like that, it’s not equal how much light each plant is receiving as the taller plants shade out the shorter ones and exaggerate the differences overtime
@@JeffWooten-w3b ideally we want to have a more controlled environment than the real world if we want to make any hypotheses or speculation, also, an LED light doesn’t penetrate canopy as far as sunlight so in theory outdoors, it would matter less if there’s some crowding
@aig9672 Can't get much more controlled than this environment. Granted, natural sunlight, wind, etc would be best but each of these specimens is in the same environment. Could it be better? Sure. But I commend this experiment and do believe the results speak for themselves so far. Now that the plants are larger, they should probably be moved further apart...I agree!
Interesting. I have that same dynomyco but I use it in hydroponics. I would crush those pellets and dilute it with water so it dissolves. It doesn't dissolve completely because of the clay I believe. Though I'm not sure if it works doing that. I have recently bought the dynomyco spark. The product is a very fine powder and will instantly darken the water pitch black. I've used it one time which was meant for my aerogarden but I use it on my soil plants. I'm going to try it again, but on plants that have bad root rot. I'm curious to see what would happen using spark only on root rotted plants.
Did the spark make a big difference on your soil plants when you used it? I haven’t used it yet personally, but am really eager to try it. I have some heading my way now but won’t be able to try it until next growing season.
I also used dynomyco this year, very noticeable growth as compared to my grow last year, all though I do wonder what the differences would be between different mycorrhizal brands, I might try a few different ones once I start my indoor grows
Sweet! Glad it worked for you as well. I’m also curious about how other brands compare, so let me know if you try it. When I was starting this challenge the people at dynomyco said I could try it vs. untreated plants or plants treated with another brand of mycorrhizae, so they seem pretty confident in their product.
Hello! The past 3 years I’ve used their classic one. It’s the “Premium Mycorrhizal Inoculant by DYNOMYCO - High Performing Strains” collabs.shop/iedudw I have not tried the spark wettable powder yet. Hope to get my hands on some of that soon!
Measuring mycorrhizae on the potted plants isn't really accurate since mycorrhizae need to build a symbiotic network to more than one plant rooting system including ground water
For sure a bigger mycorrhiza network is more beneficial. I’ve used the DYNOMYCO on some plants in my raised beds that are open on the bottom and they’ve done really well.
I don't know if it's your lighting and camera but it looks like your plants are always nutrient deficient. The leaves are very pale green, almost yellow looking. My pepper plants have deep, dark green leaves. I see at the end of your video the leaves darken up a bit but they still look like they are lacking nutrients.
Hey! The bright lights definitely play a part but these were nutrient deficient for much of this video, I even mention it around 13:16. The fertilizer definitely did help green them up towards the end so I wish I had gotten on that earlier.
Your results to this experiment is one of the worse videos ive seen. You didn't take care of the plants get the best results - the way you were supposed to.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. I can assure you that I ran this experiment with integrity and subjected all plants to the same conditions. I’m open to feedback on how I could have taken better care of the plants if there’s anything specific that you’d like to share.
Could you be more specific with what you thought was wrong because I don't see anything that was significantly wrong in the experiment. If you're upset about the results then to be helpful explain how they could have been made more accurate.
Thank you for your honest review, Jack 🧨🧨
To rule out genetics as a factor, make clones/cuttings from one plant and then try the dynomyco.
That’s a great idea!
cuttings differ a lot based on luck also - some take off better than others, so you are better off with seeds but with larger numbers.
@@sza2bomI agree, a large sample size could help rule out genetics too. Next summer I’ll do an outdoor experiment with this stuff and I’ll have more room for plants!
That's the only true way to know different phenos and genetics can varry greatly in yeilds, pest resistance etc..even under the exact same growing conditions. Only way to test if mycorrize gives better yields is test on same plant using clones and have everything else the same like same pot size, same amount of nutrients same amount of water etc..
I have grown tabasco peppers in the red cups and gotten fruit. One small plant had about 20 peppers. I used maxibloom nutrients only
Nice! 20 peppers is a lot from one double cup plant.
Very cool! Oddly enough, I am growing three cayenne pepper plants that I planned to toss after they sprouted to test two if the seeds I saved this year for viability. It was my first attempt to do so and germination was 100% successful for the two saved seeds and the seed from the original pack. Fast forward over a month and one it crazy tall with buds already. The other one I saved is doing well, but the plant from the seed pack is doing pretty meh. I have another larger pot to use to pot up the plants, so I may add this ie something like it to see if it changes the trajectory of things 👊🏻🌶👊🏻
I believe the flowers you get on the taller plants with the larger root mass is due to it being root bound. I have 2 sugar rush peach planted on same day directly sow on 3 and 5 gallon. The half filled 3 gallon grow bag had flowers in the 3rd month, the 5 gallon 3/4 filled with soil, now towards the 4 month only just started having flower buds. The plant that had early flower is shorter by 15cm.
@ControllerPassAway I agree completely! Someone should do an experiment with different sized pots! I've been doing this for quite sometime and I get so frustrated walking by the pepper plants at Lowes or Home Depot in July and the plants have 3x as many large size peppers than mine! In a stupid quart sized pot!
@@JeffWooten-w3b If you grow Chinense, the yield is also affected by the number of forks at the 1st node. That is largely pre-determined by genetics. I have plants with 1 vertical, 2 side fork a few cm from one another and plants with 2 fork looking like a Y. The ghost pepper with more fork always outperform in terms of yield. I didn't top any of them, but the plant with less fork is taller.
Love the video. it's very informative. I got my dynomyco packages today.
Glad that you enjoyed the video! That was good timing. What kind of plants are you planning to treat with the dynomyco?
You needed to test on same phenos to get true test results the mycorrize plants could have just been a more robust pheno. That being said mycorrize does help the plant uptake nutrients helps with drout resistance helps protect the plant from diease etc.. tricaderma is another amazing beneficial plant fungi similar to mycorrize. I use tricaderma as well.
You are definitely right a bigger sample size of the same pheno would make for clearer results. I’m going to try to do something like that this summer. I will have to do something research on the tricaderma!
I’ll have to give that fungi a try. After watching your videos and how many varieties of peppers there actually are, I planted two habaneros to get started and they’re thriving! However, even though I started them at the same time, with the same light source, one is so much larger than the other 🤔 but I’m assuming that’s just genetics. Very informative videos! 😄
Awesome! Glad that your plants are doing well. What do you plan to do with the fresh habaneros?
Genetics definitely plays a big role. One commenter suggested that I repeat this test with clones of the same plant to rule that out. I think a bigger sample size would help as well.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Of course! Looking forward to more experiments with it.
Really interesting video. I will say that if they were grown in the cups next to each other like that, it’s not equal how much light each plant is receiving as the taller plants shade out the shorter ones and exaggerate the differences overtime
That’s a great point. When I’m doing my outdoors experiment next summer I’ll be sure to space the plants to where that isn’t a factor.
I disagree. Same condition as the real world.
One grows better for a reason and eventually the weaker one will be overpowered by the healthier one. Plus, the DynoMyco plants are staggered.
@@JeffWooten-w3b ideally we want to have a more controlled environment than the real world if we want to make any hypotheses or speculation, also, an LED light doesn’t penetrate canopy as far as sunlight so in theory outdoors, it would matter less if there’s some crowding
@aig9672 Can't get much more controlled than this environment. Granted, natural sunlight, wind, etc would be best but each of these specimens is in the same environment. Could it be better? Sure. But I commend this experiment and do believe the results speak for themselves so far. Now that the plants are larger, they should probably be moved further apart...I agree!
Interesting. I have that same dynomyco but I use it in hydroponics. I would crush those pellets and dilute it with water so it dissolves. It doesn't dissolve completely because of the clay I believe. Though I'm not sure if it works doing that.
I have recently bought the dynomyco spark. The product is a very fine powder and will instantly darken the water pitch black. I've used it one time which was meant for my aerogarden but I use it on my soil plants. I'm going to try it again, but on plants that have bad root rot. I'm curious to see what would happen using spark only on root rotted plants.
Did the spark make a big difference on your soil plants when you used it? I haven’t used it yet personally, but am really eager to try it. I have some heading my way now but won’t be able to try it until next growing season.
I also used dynomyco this year, very noticeable growth as compared to my grow last year, all though I do wonder what the differences would be between different mycorrhizal brands, I might try a few different ones once I start my indoor grows
Sweet! Glad it worked for you as well. I’m also curious about how other brands compare, so let me know if you try it. When I was starting this challenge the people at dynomyco said I could try it vs. untreated plants or plants treated with another brand of mycorrhizae, so they seem pretty confident in their product.
Which Dynomyco did u use??? There are 2..Ty
Hello! The past 3 years I’ve used their classic one. It’s the “Premium Mycorrhizal Inoculant by DYNOMYCO - High Performing Strains” collabs.shop/iedudw
I have not tried the spark wettable powder yet. Hope to get my hands on some of that soon!
The original which looks like small balls, not spark which is a powder
Measuring mycorrhizae on the potted plants isn't really accurate since mycorrhizae need to build a symbiotic network to more than one plant rooting system including ground water
For sure a bigger mycorrhiza network is more beneficial. I’ve used the DYNOMYCO on some plants in my raised beds that are open on the bottom and they’ve done really well.
I don't know if it's your lighting and camera but it looks like your plants are always nutrient deficient. The leaves are very pale green, almost yellow looking. My pepper plants have deep, dark green leaves. I see at the end of your video the leaves darken up a bit but they still look like they are lacking nutrients.
Hey! The bright lights definitely play a part but these were nutrient deficient for much of this video, I even mention it around 13:16. The fertilizer definitely did help green them up towards the end so I wish I had gotten on that earlier.
@@jackspepperpatch I may have missed it. What fertilizer did you use?
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Your results to this experiment is one of the worse videos ive seen. You didn't take care of the plants get the best results - the way you were supposed to.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. I can assure you that I ran this experiment with integrity and subjected all plants to the same conditions. I’m open to feedback on how I could have taken better care of the plants if there’s anything specific that you’d like to share.
Could you be more specific with what you thought was wrong because I don't see anything that was significantly wrong in the experiment. If you're upset about the results then to be helpful explain how they could have been made more accurate.