what an awesome classic JD outfit. This farmer is a good operator and taken great care of the JD equipment. Always hated those deere pto's in that era...just miserable to hook & unhook. Pretty big price tags for the '80s. My family had bought a new 3940 in 1983 or 4 and I remember coming across the paper work and I almost think they paid 24k for it back then and a 2 row corn head. Did you know Halpins sold a bunch of new 716A forage wagons to Kodak back in the '80s? They used them to handle film scraps.
Very interesting on the 3940. They are cool choppers. John Deere stopped making pull types in 2019 and they listed for $95,000 at the time. That is very cool to hear Kodak used 716s. I wonder what happened to those wagons?
Thank you for watching. This was an exciting harvester to video. I had been searching for a 5820 for 6 years to feature. This one was a perfect match to the 1982 John Deere sales brochure with the 716A wagons.
Never seen one chopper box like that here in the Netherlands probably because we only do silage in bunks but we have our own 5820 chopper since begin 2023 with a grass pick up and a 6 row (chain)corn head we plan on always chopping corn and grass with it.we have the only one in our area since most farmers call the contractor with their big claas chopper I do know that there’s more jd chopper,s here but that’s to the southeast part of the Netherlands.
I have seen 5820 choppers in the United Kingdom but never the forage box here we tend to use end tip silage trailers although there is a move to non tipping ejection trailers which are more stable unloading when high sided bodies are fitted and I have seen washed out rear discharge manure spreaders used as well. Typical crops that are chopped in the UK are grass ,maize(corn)whole crop cereals as well as modified machines cut and chop 2-3yr old willow trees for biomass fuel
The 5820 was a big modern chopper in its day. It is interesting to see how different countries haul silage. John Deere, International Harvester and New Holland offered manure spreader box extensions in the 50’s and early 60’s before the chain unload forage wagons gained popularity.
It’s worth checking RUclips and put in silage UK and you will see hundreds of silage videos as well as my own hopeless little channel with videos of round baling haylage and wrapping bales if you’re interested keep up the good work I really enjoy your channel seeing different ways of working @@bigtractorpower
@@bigtractorpower of course I'm a small farm, so thanks for posting older equipment videos I do like to see what modern equipment is all about to I do follow Ivers farms in Illinois , so I'm into trying to understand how that kind of farming works
Corn chopping is great😉👍I've never heard of someone who had a chopper box like that in my area, I think they weren't common in eastern germany back in the day.
It seems that tipping wagons were the most common way to haul silage in Europe in the 1980’s. The chain unloading forage wagons seem to be unique to North America. The 716A was listed o for Europe sales. It would be interesting to know if any made it there.
2 of my late uncles from Manitoba had McKee Stack n' Mover systems much like this forage harvester, but made stacks too big to be handled with the ease this system provides. If McKee had provided more movers (3 for each harvester), and both of their farms a had large enough silo, the system would have been ideal. But it fell out of favor with farmers before its potential was realized.
Thank you for watching. I spent 6 years looking for a 5820. This one with the 716A forage wagon looks like it is right out of the 1982 sales brochure. I am doubtful any 716 or 714 forage wagons were sold in Europe but it would be interesting to find out if they were.
Thank you so much for posting older John Deere forage harvesters in action! Love them so much, the smell the sound and the hole series 5000! Sadly in germany there are no JD 716A chopper boxes (they got no over run brakes and that is illegaly for use on the road). Love these chopper boxes too, knowing they not good to the choppers' transmission. Go on filming the oldtimers, Thank you BTP!👍
The 5000 series are a neat part of John Deere chopper history. I have a video featuring all 50 years of John Deere self propelled forage harvesters from the 5400 to the 9900 posted at ruclips.net/video/imFEn1oeQ34/видео.htmlsi=Q7Tc_GuBKkVGI6RW The 50 years of choppers video took five years of filming to complete. Unfortunately by 2022 I had not located a 5820. They are difficult to find these days. It was exciting to find this 5820 with matching time period forage wagons. I have not heard from farmers that forage wagons hard on the transmission of an sp forage wagons.
however we in Alsace in France no problem after Germany I don't know and I have a farmer friend he only has old equipment we import from the US totally approved by me and no change and we have an original 8r290 290 hp now booster to 390hp and fully approved at home in Alsace in France
@@frankr.1594 yes I noticed that while being in German at one of our German customers only European tractors we were that day the only ones with American tractors authorized in France and I had been arrested and as we have customers in Germany we are at peace on this point we have the right to travel depending on where you are located if one day you see an 8r290 it's probably me this German customer is a 3 hour drive from the farm by tractor
@@noehueber6602 sorry sir but i am fare away from France. This year i visit the corn hatvest show in Dalen Nederlands, the best show i' ve met bevore. So many differend SPFH corn chopper and some pull type as well. There are some Videos on RUclips if you're interested.
We had one of those wagons on our farm in Washburn, Mo. in the late 70s. It was teamed with a pull-type John Deere forage harvester pulled by a John Deere 4230 tractor.
Why does it seem that every forage harvest video I see, they wait until the corn is about half dead before chopping. I'd've figured that they would chop when it is still totally green. Also, the head on the SPFH, can it be used for other crops, or is it corn only??
Good question. You chop when the corn is at 65% moisture. You do not not want to chop all green. You will basically get slime. You can tell when it’s ready to chop because the tassels go from straight up to a slight upside down j curl. The header can chop sorghum and could be used to chop rye or wheat if you really wanted to.
The Deere wagons do stand out and many have lasted 40 years. Dion builds good wagons and one of the few still offering wagons. I miss Badger they had a good line of products. I grew up not far from Shortsville, Ny where Papec had its factory. The last Papec forage wagons were built in 1979 but they were all over NY for many years.
I'm sure there would have never been anything like that here in Northern Ireland. At that time it would have been grass only, Maize is a fairly recent thing here and with our wet conditions something with small wheels like that would sink up to it's axles and puts no drawbar weight onto the tractor. Also with small farms and narrow roads that would have been very clumsy and unmanouverable.
Yes it was. In 1998 they returned to the forage box market with a line of Victor Forage Wagons built by Miller Pro. The Victor wagons were offered through 2001. I have a video on a 7810 tractor chopping alfalfa with a Victor Wagon posted at ruclips.net/video/X-cL_qP26Fs/видео.htmlsi=rVFauFDw4kq0Brr5
There has never been a better self-unloading wagon built than the 716A as far as I'm concerned. I know lots of farmers who would agree with me. I know of several farms that still use them. One farm near me runs a whole fleet of them behind a Deere 6650 SPFH. I've filled lots of them with our pull type 3970 behind a 4020 and (later on) a 7410. I've also run a lot of corn through our neighbor's 5830 4WD when we used to help them chop. Great memories! Now my brothers run a 7480 and trucks on our farm. Way more productive and comfortable to operate but that old stuff is still awesome!!
I agree the 716A was well built. 40 plus years in the field and you still see many going strong. Filming this chopping team was like being in the 1982 sales brochure. A 4020, 3970 and a 716A is a very cool chopping team.
At $90,000 it was a big investment in 1982. Today the top end John Deere 9900 self propelled forage harvester is rated at 956 hp and lists for $821,000.
what an awesome classic JD outfit. This farmer is a good operator and taken great care of the JD equipment. Always hated those deere pto's in that era...just miserable to hook & unhook. Pretty big price tags for the '80s. My family had bought a new 3940 in 1983 or 4 and I remember coming across the paper work and I almost think they paid 24k for it back then and a 2 row corn head. Did you know Halpins sold a bunch of new 716A forage wagons to Kodak back in the '80s? They used them to handle film scraps.
Very interesting on the 3940. They are cool choppers. John Deere stopped making pull types in 2019 and they listed for $95,000 at the time.
That is very cool to hear Kodak used 716s. I wonder what happened to those wagons?
@@bigtractorpower yes, me too! I’ve asked one of Halpins I’m friends with and he has no idea. $95k….WOW!
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Thank you for watching. This was an exciting harvester to video. I had been searching for a 5820 for 6 years to feature. This one was a perfect match to the 1982 John Deere sales brochure with the 716A wagons.
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Never seen one chopper box like that here in the Netherlands probably because we only do silage in bunks but we have our own 5820 chopper since begin 2023 with a grass pick up and a 6 row (chain)corn head we plan on always chopping corn and grass with it.we have the only one in our area since most farmers call the contractor with their big claas chopper I do know that there’s more jd chopper,s here but that’s to the southeast part of the Netherlands.
Old John Deere machinery is just beautiful, if you have grown farming you can get to smell this kind of videos.
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I have seen 5820 choppers in the United Kingdom but never the forage box here we tend to use end tip silage trailers although there is a move to non tipping ejection trailers which are more stable unloading when high sided bodies are fitted and I have seen washed out rear discharge manure spreaders used as well. Typical crops that are chopped in the UK are grass ,maize(corn)whole crop cereals as well as modified machines cut and chop 2-3yr old willow trees for biomass fuel
The 5820 was a big modern chopper in its day. It is interesting to see how different countries haul silage. John Deere, International Harvester and New Holland offered manure spreader box extensions in the 50’s and early 60’s before the chain unload forage wagons gained popularity.
It’s worth checking RUclips and put in silage UK and you will see hundreds of silage videos as well as my own hopeless little channel with videos of round baling haylage and wrapping bales if you’re interested keep up the good work I really enjoy your channel seeing different ways of working
@@bigtractorpower
That was a big set up when it was new. The chipper was huge and the wagon was some of the largest available
Big time chopping in 1982.
My kind of equipment
Anything newer then the early 90s is getting fancier then I need
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@@bigtractorpower of course I'm a small farm, so thanks for posting older equipment videos
I do like to see what modern equipment is all about to
I do follow Ivers farms in Illinois , so I'm into trying to understand how that kind of farming works
Corn chopping is great😉👍I've never heard of someone who had a chopper box like that in my area, I think they weren't common in eastern germany back in the day.
It seems that tipping wagons were the most common way to haul silage in Europe in the 1980’s. The chain unloading forage wagons seem to be unique to North America. The 716A was listed o for Europe sales. It would be interesting to know if any made it there.
2 of my late uncles from Manitoba had McKee Stack n' Mover systems much like this forage harvester, but made stacks too big to be handled with the ease this system provides. If McKee had provided more movers (3 for each harvester), and both of their farms a had large enough silo, the system would have been ideal. But it fell out of favor with farmers before its potential was realized.
Excellent forage harvester video once again big T 👍👍👍 Can't say I've saw a JD forage wagon around here...
Thank you for watching. I spent 6 years looking for a 5820. This one with the 716A forage wagon looks like it is right out of the 1982 sales brochure.
I am doubtful any 716 or 714 forage wagons were sold in Europe but it would be interesting to find out if they were.
I just love the sound of a forage harvester brings back so many memories
They do have a great sounds. One of my favorite sounds in farming.
Thank you so much for posting older John Deere forage harvesters in action! Love them so much, the smell the sound and the hole series 5000!
Sadly in germany there are no JD 716A chopper boxes (they got no over run brakes and that is illegaly for use on the road). Love these chopper boxes too, knowing they not good to the choppers' transmission.
Go on filming the oldtimers,
Thank you BTP!👍
The 5000 series are a neat part of John Deere chopper history. I have a video featuring all 50 years of John Deere self propelled forage harvesters from the 5400 to the 9900 posted at ruclips.net/video/imFEn1oeQ34/видео.htmlsi=Q7Tc_GuBKkVGI6RW
The 50 years of choppers video took five years of filming to complete. Unfortunately by 2022 I had not located a 5820. They are difficult to find these days. It was exciting to find this 5820 with matching time period forage wagons.
I have not heard from farmers that forage wagons hard on the transmission of an sp forage wagons.
however we in Alsace in France no problem after Germany I don't know and I have a farmer friend he only has old equipment we import from the US totally approved by me and no change and we have an original 8r290 290 hp now booster to 390hp and fully approved at home in Alsace in France
@@noehueber6602there are some very interisting Videos out of France with for example SPFH JD5440/ 5460 or th Caterpillar 880M.
@@frankr.1594 yes I noticed that while being in German at one of our German customers only European tractors we were that day the only ones with American tractors authorized in France and I had been arrested and as we have customers in Germany we are at peace on this point we have the right to travel depending on where you are located if one day you see an 8r290 it's probably me this German customer is a 3 hour drive from the farm by tractor
@@noehueber6602 sorry sir but i am fare away from France. This year i visit the corn hatvest show in Dalen Nederlands, the best show i' ve met bevore. So many differend SPFH corn chopper and some pull type as well. There are some Videos on RUclips if you're interested.
Always enjoy watching forage harvesters.
This one is a true 1980’s classic. 👍👍
Great video
This was a classic combo right out of the sales brochure.
Did a lot of farming in the 90s with that type of forage wagon. Unloaded in to silos and bags .
The 716A was built to last. Not many 40 year old forage boxes still in use yet you see these still going strong.
Check out Kip Siegler farming ,he and his family have an older sp jd chopper and at least 10 or 13 716A chopper boxes.
Kip has an awesome farm. I am a subscriber. I talked with him a little about this video for details on the 716A before I published it.
We had one of those wagons on our farm in Washburn, Mo. in the late 70s. It was teamed with a pull-type John Deere forage harvester pulled by a John Deere 4230 tractor.
Looks like a nice operation, not an army.
I live in England 🇬🇧 middle of the country right on the east coast and I not seen them silage carts
Thank you. I appreciate the information. Thank you for watching BTP in England.
My brother still runs 3 of those wagons. Always loved seeing those choppers running around western New York, all 4wd.
😁👍👍. The 716 and 714 were built to last. Thanks for the specs for this video Tom.
I know this farm. Thats so cool you was filming in my area!
I love these old school machines, and seeing them in action is just flat out great.
This was fun day in the field.
those older choppers will still bring half of new money at auction, i'm starting to restore my NewHolland Sperry/Rand 880 pull type
Sperry New Holland was the best 😁👍
Why does it seem that every forage harvest video I see, they wait until the corn is about half dead before chopping. I'd've figured that they would chop when it is still totally green. Also, the head on the SPFH, can it be used for other crops, or is it corn only??
Good question. You chop when the corn is at 65% moisture. You do not not want to chop all green. You will basically get slime.
You can tell when it’s ready to chop because the tassels go from straight up to a slight upside down j curl.
The header can chop sorghum and could be used to chop rye or wheat if you really wanted to.
I always thought those John Deere chuck wagons were beautiful. We had a big Dion being our newest along with a Badger and the oldest was a Papec
The Deere wagons do stand out and many have lasted 40 years. Dion builds good wagons and one of the few still offering wagons. I miss Badger they had a good line of products. I grew up not far from Shortsville, Ny where Papec had its factory. The last Papec forage wagons were built in 1979 but they were all over NY for many years.
I'm sure there would have never been anything like that here in Northern Ireland. At that time it would have been grass only, Maize is a fairly recent thing here and with our wet conditions something with small wheels like that would sink up to it's axles and puts no drawbar weight onto the tractor. Also with small farms and narrow roads that would have been very clumsy and unmanouverable.
Thank you for the information. The weather conditions and road love would be a limiting factor for a wagon.
So great grass cating mashin
Thank you for watching.
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Was 1989 the last year Deere offered forage wagons?
Yes it was. In 1998 they returned to the forage box market with a line of Victor Forage Wagons built by Miller Pro. The Victor wagons were offered through 2001. I have a video on a 7810 tractor chopping alfalfa with a Victor Wagon posted at ruclips.net/video/X-cL_qP26Fs/видео.htmlsi=rVFauFDw4kq0Brr5
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Thank you Paulo.
Good video.
Thank you Frank.
Sure a cool chopping combo
It sure is. Right out of the 1982 sakes brochure. I spent 6 years looking for a 5820 to film and this one was perfect.
@bigtractorpower yea one thing that be nice would be see a new 5820 with some of the new technology that john deere has put into forage harvesters
There has never been a better self-unloading wagon built than the 716A as far as I'm concerned. I know lots of farmers who would agree with me. I know of several farms that still use them. One farm near me runs a whole fleet of them behind a Deere 6650 SPFH. I've filled lots of them with our pull type 3970 behind a 4020 and (later on) a 7410. I've also run a lot of corn through our neighbor's 5830 4WD when we used to help them chop. Great memories! Now my brothers run a 7480 and trucks on our farm. Way more productive and comfortable to operate but that old stuff is still awesome!!
I agree the 716A was well built. 40 plus years in the field and you still see many going strong. Filming this chopping team was like being in the 1982 sales brochure. A 4020, 3970 and a 716A is a very cool chopping team.
That's a really expensive machine!
At $90,000 it was a big investment in 1982. Today the top end John Deere 9900 self propelled forage harvester is rated at 956 hp and lists for $821,000.
Fantastic sound coming from that harvester
One of the great classics from the 80’s.
Harvester is in immaculate condition. Nice video
This was a super find to highlight the way chopping was in the early 1980’s.