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  • Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
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  • @RoseAnvil
    @RoseAnvil  Месяц назад +74

    Rose Anvil X JK Boots BEAR SLAYERS, the perfect PNW boot, drop 5/23! Get early access & updates by signing up for the Limited Edition email list here - bit.ly/3WyuY6c

    • @Thelongmanable
      @Thelongmanable Месяц назад

      *_PLEASE CALL OUT "RED BARN" JUNK BOOTS!!!!_*

    • @alexvukovic7814
      @alexvukovic7814 Месяц назад

      Alphawolf t-shirt haha amazing😁I respect you now even more. man of culture😁

    • @Vanadium
      @Vanadium Месяц назад

      I have some Metzeler Boots still and I would not want to replace them. Good stuff...

    • @c-w-h
      @c-w-h Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for helping people not buy trash. In the early 2000s. If I put my hand inside the shoe and push down on the sole. If it didnt even move. It didnt get tried on. You might as well walk barefoot if the sole cant move.

    • @daskes123
      @daskes123 Месяц назад

      Will your Goral SMUGS have another release? I didnt manage to order them in the first round :(

  • @Flumphinator
    @Flumphinator Месяц назад +1770

    Their marketing department: “really, who’s gonna check?”
    This guy. This guy checks.

    • @-COBRA
      @-COBRA Месяц назад +48

      Their marketing department is probably one guy outsourced from India who has chatgpt account.

    • @jdgoesham5381
      @jdgoesham5381 Месяц назад +7

      Like we keep saying, everything DEI touches(like TNF here)goes to utter shit.

    • @mikkojaatinen4508
      @mikkojaatinen4508 Месяц назад

      Lying is normalized.
      "Sponsored by Pfizer!"

    • @SheldonShooter
      @SheldonShooter Месяц назад +7

      Their marketing is more: who is interested in quality? It’s more important that more black people go hiking and buy our trash.

    • @Flumphinator
      @Flumphinator Месяц назад +2

      @@SheldonShooter I figured they’d be more into jogging.

  • @Swimdeep
    @Swimdeep Месяц назад +756

    This heartbreaking to me how corrupt corporate money grubbers destroy decades of goodwill in an instant. Excellent video.

    • @Oldsmobile69
      @Oldsmobile69 Месяц назад +19

      As someone who's been shopping for hiking shoes, gotta say, North Face doesn't really make any good shoes.

    • @Swimdeep
      @Swimdeep Месяц назад

      @@Oldsmobile69 North Face used to be great on the “big three,” tents, sleeping bags, and backpacks. I had the best experience with the brand growing up in San Francisco. North Face in Berkeley totally outfitted us kids in the Sierra Club program “Innercity Outings.”

    • @hunterwilk
      @hunterwilk Месяц назад +3

      Get used to it.

    • @hansmemling2311
      @hansmemling2311 Месяц назад +14

      Consumers should also be more demanding. There are far too many products out there that west out too easy. I have a relative who buys a few pairs of jeans and shoes every year. He thinks it’s normal that his stuff breaks so easy, he buys expensive brands mind you. In my mind if my shoes or jeans have to thrown away after a year then I’m not buying from this brand again.

    • @doccan3848
      @doccan3848 Месяц назад +1

      what did you expect from a brand that created pattygonia😂

  • @D__Lee
    @D__Lee Месяц назад +184

    I bought a used North Face tent in the mid-80s and I still use it today. The quality is outstanding. I was so impressed that I bought a North Face Gore-Tex jacket. It was the most expensive jacket that I ever purchased, but it was worth it. Back in the early 2000, I found a similar North Face jacket at REI and I bought it. When I wore the jacket the next day, the front zipper snagged and I had to take the jacket off by pulling it over-my-head like a sweatshirt. I returned the jacket to REI for a refund and the REI customer return employee agreed with me that it was a piece of junk. Instead of using a YKK zipper, North Face used a cheap plastic zipper. I've never bought a North Face product since then.

    • @NotTheRealRustyShackleford
      @NotTheRealRustyShackleford 28 дней назад +8

      The zipper test is a good metric to go by. If a product has zippers on it and they aren't at least YKK or a better quality brand it is probably not worth buying...

    • @jimmyngo2191
      @jimmyngo2191 18 дней назад +3

      @@NotTheRealRustyShackleford I think YKK is the best. My family is tradition Tailors, so I know a bit about linen and fabric. We always use YKK for our Jeans and pants and those mtf last like forever. My jeans ripped and tear but the zipper still working very fine (I wore that jeans for 7 years and my uncle made it for me.)

    • @HalCogan
      @HalCogan 16 дней назад +2

      I had a zip up north face hoodie I paid $80 for that lasted 15 years while still looking relatively new. Now I'd be surprised if it lasted 15 months.

    • @SenselessUsername
      @SenselessUsername 2 дня назад

      @@NotTheRealRustyShackleford Even YKK has different ranges low-mid-high...

  • @jamesp7351
    @jamesp7351 Месяц назад +103

    that "rocker midsole geometry" was literally taken from Sketchers Shape-Ups (based on Swiss masai barefoot technology). It's meant to have an unstable platform to make you work your calves and ankles more to keep balance and tone your legs. It's horrible for anything other than flat road.

    • @jimmyngo2191
      @jimmyngo2191 18 дней назад +1

      Sketchers shoes are horrible. It hurts my feet a lot. I think a pair of Converse is much better than their shoes.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 13 дней назад

      No such thing as "tone your legs", or tone anything else. You cant spot reduce fat, and you arent gonna build any muscle by walking

  • @roooroooooooo1091
    @roooroooooooo1091 Месяц назад +662

    Too many brands are throwing a gore-tex layer in the boot and calling it a day. Rose Anvil has taught me to choose construction over marketing. Have a pair of Gronell stelvios and JG Baobabs coming in the post on Monday. I used to swear by gore-tex, now I think it's for city slickers and yuppies

    • @alwaystheone
      @alwaystheone Месяц назад +31

      Of course the north face brand is for city slickers and yuppies just like Timberland, Polo, Nautica, and much more look how many street people are rocking the brand. We the street people make everything fashionable and just for it's originally cause.

    • @blauer2551
      @blauer2551 Месяц назад +16

      My Danner Quarry are gore-tex lined and keep my feet dry, or maybe it’s the leather and construction, or all of the above. One thing for sure is I don’t walk around puddles on the jobsite.

    • @edrader
      @edrader Месяц назад +23

      @@alwaystheone you're painting with a broad brush. north face makes some excellent jackets and their tri-blend T shirts are the best that i have found

    • @hiramesensei3112
      @hiramesensei3112 Месяц назад +52

      goretex or any breathable membrane is fine when its done correctly. theres a reason why all of the top level professional mountaineers and outdoorsmen use it. it is a literal life saver.
      that being said, 90% of the waterproof breathable stuff on the market is just marketing hype without real function

    • @edrader
      @edrader Месяц назад

      i use goretex socks inside my goretex merrell boots when i want waterproof

  • @Eirik_Bloodaxe
    @Eirik_Bloodaxe Месяц назад +161

    It seems like the recurring theme is “built for function, then becomes popular and becomes built for fashion.” The one thing I haven’t seen yet is 2008 making it suck like everything else lol.

    • @paulandrews7622
      @paulandrews7622 Месяц назад +10

      Doctor Martens being a prime example. Another product that used to be decent many years ago, but for a long time now, just junk. Very sad, but it happens with everything now.

    • @matthewcaughey8898
      @matthewcaughey8898 Месяц назад

      @@paulandrews7622 you can still get real old school docs. You just have to buy them from Solovair. They’re Grigg and company’s own take on Docs the way they used to be made since Grigg actually made Doc Martins boots. They’ve had to change a few things owing to brand copyright but they’re essentially the OG doc Martin boot. Grigg/ NPS also owns the gripfast brand as well and they do have a us distributor. Just be ready to pay good money cause they’re running in the 185 plus range. I personally buy wedge sole type construction type boots for comfort and foot issues that I’ve recently had surface ( plus I can get danner bull runs resoled at least twice )

    • @hansmemling2311
      @hansmemling2311 Месяц назад +2

      @paulandrews7622 The original factory, Solovair decided to create their own brand instead of just manufacturing for dr Martens after dr Martens got bought out and moved most of production to Asia. So I bought Solovair, 3 pairs of their high quality shoes, well that was a disappointment. The quality is still
      Meh, better than dr.Martens from Asia but really not so much better as I expected.

    • @JHattsy
      @JHattsy Месяц назад +3

      Yeah every brand that gets sucked up by corpo does it. Beats headphones did it, skullcandy headphones did it, Like someone else said, Doc Martens did it. The brands start good because they're local and not global, the moment something becomes a global 'easy to get from your local store' type item, it's trash.

    • @jimstartup2729
      @jimstartup2729 Месяц назад +2

      Why is it that so much stuff is junk now. Not even that stylish in most cases. The absolute best trainers I ever owned were some 2004 Merrels that looked great, worked great and lasted great.. I bought two pairs and then it was discontinued. I would buy the same trainers again in a flash if i could but nothing the company makes comes close with build and design. In fact a lot of kit I bought decades ago is very hard to replace with modern kit.. For some reason design seems to have gone backwards in many ways.. all to often there is just something where you look at it and say "why did they do that?.."
      It's kinda sad. I mean stuff should be so good now, but it's all about maximising your consumption by selling you Polished turds.

  • @rodrigoresendes7869
    @rodrigoresendes7869 Месяц назад +61

    thank you for your public service

  • @joeschlepp
    @joeschlepp Месяц назад +49

    made in Vietnam for about $ 1.98 per pair?

    • @antemrkic1702
      @antemrkic1702 25 дней назад +7

      Yupp, every shoe today is made in Vietnam, Cambodia, Bangladesh for less then 2 dollar's and sells from 150-1000+ dollars. You're just paying for expensive junk, you'd be lucky is pair can last you for 2 years without breaking apart.

    • @jimmyngo2191
      @jimmyngo2191 18 дней назад

      We don't made decisions, the company made it. And to you, we have our own line of products in clothings and they are great.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 13 дней назад

      @@antemrkic1702 Every mass produced shoe that is. If you got the $, you can buy good Western made shoes from reputable shoemakers. Of course theyre pretty much all day wear leather shoes, not high-tech hiking shoes

  • @weijia8088
    @weijia8088 Месяц назад +323

    I couldn't even watch this video all the way through, as a former employee at the corp HQ (12 years supporting finance and product) Anvil has it spot on. I've had over 8 pairs of their shoes for all different purposes. The shoes are designed as a throw away...like most shoes are these days. VF is a publicly traded company so they have to answer to shareholders and wall street expectations. It's not about making money, it's about how much $$ can you make vs. the previous year.
    The only stupid comment was re: the D-Ring, it's a D-ring for gaiters...what do you expect? Who wants steel that rust?

    • @nemo4evr
      @nemo4evr Месяц назад

      You hit the nail on the head about what is all about. . . .profits and only profits, regarding the ring, aluminum not only rusts as well but can break easy, a simple stainless steel works fine, but the boot is only designed for a year or maybe two, is just disposable like cars, appliances and now as we are finding out due to the Boeing clusterfuck , airplanes.

    • @Mr.DMZ.
      @Mr.DMZ. Месяц назад +52

      Galvanized or stainless won't rust

    • @sirduckington5641
      @sirduckington5641 Месяц назад +47

      @Mr.DMZ Both Galvanized and Stainless still will rust. Just slower (orders of magnitude slower) with way more discoloration. But aluminium for gaters is fine unless you catch it and bend it out.
      Galvanized just means it has an outer layer of a different metal on it (this is a simplified explanation)(usually zinc) and stainless is just a different ally compound that is less exposed to oxidization because of the charge in the surface. But they will both rust

    • @SHDW-nf2ki
      @SHDW-nf2ki Месяц назад +86

      By the time a good stainless steel rusts the boot will be completely worn out. But the aluminum will bend and snap long long before the boot is ready to be junked.

    • @sirduckington5641
      @sirduckington5641 Месяц назад +18

      @@SHDW-nf2ki Fair nuff. I just felt the need to point it out.
      Because it seems like most ppl think stainless and galvanized *Has absolutely zero chance of rusting* (I work with offshore oil and gas, so it's an important distinction to me).
      Tried to write it in a "I see where you're coming from but maybe you don't know this fact that admittedly doesn't mater super muchin this specific case but is so abjectly wrong I feel you should probably know it" angle.
      Rather than a haughty"NO you are wrong. I am smart you stupid" kinda way 😅😅 Dunno how well I managed if you get what I mean

  • @proscriptus
    @proscriptus Месяц назад +123

    As an old school hiker, I find this really sad. TNF used to be expensive, but it used to be expensive for a reason. Even when it turned into streetwear, it was still highly functional, and the backcountry people and the street where people could live side by side. There *are* still a small handful of serious products in the North Face product stack, but they're hard to find, just like tents are buried on the site. You wonder how long they can go trading on a reputation for things that no longer exist.

    • @titoson3669
      @titoson3669 Месяц назад +5

      there are lots of tents on the site?

    • @ChineseKiwi
      @ChineseKiwi Месяц назад +8

      so the BMW of outdoor gear. Got it.

    • @SWells679
      @SWells679 Месяц назад +1

      My 33 y.o. No Hitch Pitch tent is STILL rock solid!

    • @user-nq5ge2vs7q
      @user-nq5ge2vs7q Месяц назад +3

      I bought the original McMurdo parka iv still got it heavily worn but over 20 years old
      iv slept in snow init many times(bad planning)
      I saw the modern version of it
      What a shame you could freeze going to the shops just a fashion Item now

    • @dextermorgan1
      @dextermorgan1 Месяц назад

      A while. People are stupid.

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC Месяц назад +7

    Just wanted to say a big thank you to your channel for fixing my feet and lower back! For years I had relied on Doc Martens as daily boots but over the last 10 years couldn't understand why my feet and back were playing up...I put it down to being 50, until my mother, a physio, suggested my boots might be the issue. I then watched your dissection of a DM and was both angry and appalled. DMs subsequently replaced with Iron Rangers and Solvairs and my back and feet are now fine.

  • @willypro4949
    @willypro4949 Месяц назад +106

    Golden rule: if the brand is famous for one product line don’t buy their other products: Example, North Face is renowned for jackets and packs, not shoes

    • @justanotherhuman9420
      @justanotherhuman9420 Месяц назад +6

      Precisely! I've got 20yr old North face jackets n trousers that are still going strong, have never n will never buy their footwear mind you....

    • @MrMP-en7vf
      @MrMP-en7vf Месяц назад +36

      Sadly the quality with their jackets isn't there anymore.

    • @XXXX-yc6wv
      @XXXX-yc6wv 13 дней назад +2

      I've had a couple of pairs of their winter boots, not for hiking but they are excellent for trudging through snow in the city, which I guess isn't really that much of an endorsement for an "outdoors" company.

    • @mrb152
      @mrb152 13 дней назад +1

      My favorite shoes are North Face, by far the most comforable hiking shoes for me.

  • @igordugonjic
    @igordugonjic Месяц назад +7

    just found the channel, thank you, I was thinking for years about the bad quality of this and that, especially sneakers, believing that living in poor market like Bosnia we always receive bad products (I just cant afford that Salomon Goretex last few months before insole torn apart and they start leaking) comparing to rich markets, because of your video we can finally take a peak in the overall quality of the products and looks like it not just us

  • @Wolfpak765
    @Wolfpak765 Месяц назад +46

    Turned from The North Face to The North Farce

    • @jdgoesham5381
      @jdgoesham5381 Месяц назад

      Forced DEI does that to a company.
      Shit just look at Boeing. They go full DEI and stop using merit in their production and engineer staff and now look how many issues with Boeing planes falling apart IN FLIGHT! Like every week now. And DEI woke stuff is the only thing that's changed in the company.

    • @proxymilian2630
      @proxymilian2630 18 дней назад

      Hahahaha statement of a legend! North Farce's all around us!

  • @tggonzales7971
    @tggonzales7971 Месяц назад +11

    Glad you’re keeping them honest

    • @Mike1614b
      @Mike1614b Месяц назад +1

      more like exposing them and their fancy words

  • @Vidme01
    @Vidme01 Месяц назад +5

    I always watch these videos before buying a pair of boots. Changed my mind more than once. Thank you sir!

  • @winc06
    @winc06 Месяц назад +27

    Appreciate the exposé. North Face was never really a boot maker. Tents and clothing which morphed into mountain fashion. I would argue with you on the rocker sole which is a traditional European mountaineering shape that backpackers have used since the 60s. I never had a problem with it in a good boot sometimes with 40 pounds on my back and a 10 hour hiking day. Especially good clambering over rocks.

    • @philsmith2444
      @philsmith2444 Месяц назад +5

      Right, but the rocker is necessary on mountaineering boots with no flex in the sole and ankle. Hiking boots, and more specifically, *light* hiking boots that aren’t rigid enough to need or benefit from it? I wouldn’t be surprised if the squishiness of the sole flattened the rocker right out so it didn’t do anything anyway.

    • @El_Peto
      @El_Peto Месяц назад

      40 pounds,
      Hobbyist

    • @lunijo7
      @lunijo7 Месяц назад +8

      @@El_Petodoes that add to the conversation? Gate keeping isn’t helping anyone. 40lbs in my world has been 5 day backpacking trips or 2 day fast and light alpine missions.

    • @SeanHardaker
      @SeanHardaker Месяц назад +5

      Anvil doesn't know shit about proper mountaineering boots.

    • @hansmemling2311
      @hansmemling2311 Месяц назад +5

      @SeanHardaker He does have some misses here and there. He understands leather and shoe construction really well but is sometimes a bit biased with childish or simplistic mindsets. Meaning he takes shortcuts in his logic and misses the mark.

  • @Dyshof
    @Dyshof Месяц назад +78

    Oh man! These vids are priceless! Revealing what is hidden! Please can you do it on the real hiking brands such as Lowa, Raichle, Salomon, Asolo, La Sportiva, Merrell, Scarpa, Meindl? These are the benchmarks!!!

    • @bayareanewman1566
      @bayareanewman1566 Месяц назад +4

      I’d love a hiking boot month! Like 10 videos talking about the 10 best one, then at the end of the month a video that picks like the top ones

    • @idrisddraig2
      @idrisddraig2 Месяц назад

      Some of these are still made by craftsmen in the original factories (at least for the European market) some are made by the lowest bidder from low end garbage.

    • @larstorders9695
      @larstorders9695 Месяц назад +1

      I've worn Merrell for the last 20 years, they were the most comfortable hiking boots I ever had and were quite durable and consistent. I bought my last pair about 6 months ago, never again.

    • @nemosotillo
      @nemosotillo Месяц назад

      ​@@larstorders9695 he escuchado eso muchas veces, tal parece que merrel ya no es más para nada una marca decente.

    • @toxy3580
      @toxy3580 Месяц назад

      What about Nike Hikey

  • @richb8282
    @richb8282 Месяц назад +3

    Thanks for honest review

  • @mountainspider342
    @mountainspider342 Месяц назад +3

    Great review ...Honest reviews makes your channel the best out there.

  • @Ted_Kenzoku
    @Ted_Kenzoku Месяц назад +62

    They are just a fashion brand using internet hype to sell

  • @michaelhess4825
    @michaelhess4825 Месяц назад +58

    I've always hated Patagonia, so overpriced, but their gear is great. I have a wool/recycled plastic jacket and a parka, they are truly good products.
    Northface has always been on the opposite end in my mind, garbage, over hyped, over priced junk.

    • @Battlehammer333
      @Battlehammer333 Месяц назад +2

      Nah, TNF was good and priced fairly a while ago. Just not anymore after all the hype.

    • @BabyJesus66
      @BabyJesus66 Месяц назад

      I've only owned one of their winter coats but I got it on sale for pretty cheap (not much more than a coat from Target) and it's so damn warm it's almost too hot to wear. Not sure how long it'll last, but it definitely keeps you (almost too) warm in snowy winter weather. I'm really happy with it for the money I paid... and obviously subjective but it looks nice, I've gotten more compliments on it than any other winter coat I've owned.

    • @d.i.m.eproductions6925
      @d.i.m.eproductions6925 Месяц назад +1

      I just go with new/unissued surplus, saves me a ton of money and I end up with damn good gear, especially German and Swiss gear

  • @veranfung432
    @veranfung432 Месяц назад

    thank you so much for such a detail description 🙇

  • @dfgdfg_
    @dfgdfg_ Месяц назад +15

    These takedown videos are pure chef's kiss. Passion, knowledge, and some grass-kicking graphs to back it up. Ooh yeah.

  • @antonwearsakilt5209
    @antonwearsakilt5209 Месяц назад +10

    TNF was once a decent company that actually put out cutting edge technology in their products, however once they went to fashion over function, they became just another outdoor company that was more about their past laurels than striving to be the best.
    To be fair, most of the outdoor companies have done exactly the same thing.
    Making room for beginning companies to fill those voids left by the bigs...

  • @joshuawesteros5345
    @joshuawesteros5345 Месяц назад +1

    Propulsive vective technologies, Great Scott!!

  • @pelletierbvincent
    @pelletierbvincent Месяц назад +21

    this is why I love this channel. Helping customers identify actual good products from bad marketed products

  • @notthatproud7453
    @notthatproud7453 Месяц назад +8

    I hope you do some Salomons. I had a pair for a long time and they were great--waterproof, durable, comfortable. Maybe the best pair of sneaker-style hiking boots I've had.

  • @psibug565
    @psibug565 Месяц назад +6

    They spent more on the fictional marketing than on making the boot.

  • @RexusOutfitters
    @RexusOutfitters 13 дней назад

    Way to tell it like it is! Thanks for the heads up!

  • @robertosmmjlist
    @robertosmmjlist Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for what you are doing! My next pair of boots for bow hunting will be based on your info or straight up your bran.

  • @LarryKapp1
    @LarryKapp1 Месяц назад +3

    many years ago I had a pair of insulated North Face winter hiking boots and they were the best warmest boots I ever had , and very comfortable. There was zero leather in them and they lasted a really long time . Too bad if the quality is going way down . I would like to see some older North Face boots cut open and see if they were good quality at one time.

  • @christiandilday7543
    @christiandilday7543 Месяц назад +6

    Hey everyone stay blessed happy mothers day 🎉

  • @slthlrdz
    @slthlrdz Месяц назад

    thanks for making these

  • @miguelalves274
    @miguelalves274 Месяц назад

    Thank You for the review!!!

  • @SolemnStacker
    @SolemnStacker Месяц назад +10

    So many products these days are Marketing > Quality.

    • @videoviewer2008
      @videoviewer2008 Месяц назад +2

      Marketing Hype, not just marketing. Especially as we see really low effort photoshop and AI generated ads on stock photos.

  • @rickybaruah
    @rickybaruah Месяц назад +61

    The big brands forget Rose Anvil exists!

  • @Dnte-qg3mb
    @Dnte-qg3mb Месяц назад

    Excellent video!! Thank you!!!

  • @allangoodchild8989
    @allangoodchild8989 18 дней назад

    Thank you for your videos Sir, definitely providing a valuable service!

  • @kimbeck7163
    @kimbeck7163 Месяц назад +5

    Man I just love this ... U call out North Face for Marketing jargon ! ... And then sales piths your "Bear Slayers" boots, ... Mic drop !

  • @ahamsandwhich
    @ahamsandwhich Месяц назад +3

    My only critiques. I used to work for TNF PT when I was in grad school. Futurelight is TNF proprietary and not Chinese. They own all the machinery required and it's manufactured quite differently from gore-tex or other membranes. It's most similar to Outdoor Research's AscentShell but is significantly more waterproof while being more breathable than gore-tex. Unless that changed since 2019... Also, these are light hiking boots. You don't need a steel d ring for gaiters you might use once hiking or backpacking. But yeah their quality on many things has definitely dropped, esp. when they started to do all the fashion collabs.

  • @_Dezman
    @_Dezman Месяц назад +1

    Haha, really enjoyed this video 😁 Thanks!

  • @kart182
    @kart182 Месяц назад

    Excellent review

  • @ittylink
    @ittylink 21 день назад +13

    Don't do videos on Boeing.

  • @antonengstroem1999
    @antonengstroem1999 Месяц назад +8

    Not all steel is magnetic. Depends on the phases of the steel and alloying elements. Austenitic steels are generally not magnetic for example

    • @GoatzombieBubba
      @GoatzombieBubba Месяц назад +6

      That is why he scratched it to see what it was.

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 Месяц назад +3

      @@GoatzombieBubba Literally IMMEDIATELY after too, I mean dude, c'mon...🤣

  • @Beauweir
    @Beauweir Месяц назад

    Never thought I'd love a video about walking boots

  • @cliffguthrie7530
    @cliffguthrie7530 Месяц назад +2

    Awesome- straight to the truth !

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Месяц назад +5

    I love my Salomon Quest 4 hiking boots! they may be determined to be garbage but they have kept my feet warm and well protected in mountains with snow and ice as well as being an absolute joy for my feet, knees and back after a long day of use.

  • @davidjernigan8161
    @davidjernigan8161 Месяц назад +35

    A $ 195 virtue signal.

    • @IYragFreedom
      @IYragFreedom Месяц назад +1

      And to thing you can do it on x for free

  • @Riva1000
    @Riva1000 13 дней назад

    Thanks a lot for the reviews. I have your channel bookmarked for when ever I'll be buying new boots :)

  • @DonSmith1
    @DonSmith1 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the review! I had a pair of North Face boots many years ago, they weren't much better then either. Hey please do a review on the Limmer hiking boots.

  • @noicemcnoiceface4006
    @noicemcnoiceface4006 Месяц назад +14

    Perhaps its nostalgia, but I remember that the quality was way higher even just a few years ago - I got a few pieces about 7 years ago and they're still going strong
    I bought a hoodie a few weeks ago and I seldem wear it anymore since it started loosing color and cuffs went loose on the first wash
    It's disappointing since it was my go to store I often work in the outdoors and depend on what I wear to keep me warm or cool, as well as reliably protect me from any other hazards

    • @NetherHawk
      @NetherHawk 11 дней назад

      It's likely not nostalgia. Capitalism has shifted towards a consumerist planned obsolescence mindset more than ever. Things become unusable as soon as possible in order to have people buy again.

  • @Chrizzy.t
    @Chrizzy.t Месяц назад +20

    Yo Weston, been a fan of the channel for years with a pair of ND1's in the cupboard.
    As an engineer with a materials background though I wanted to point out that you didn't consider corrosion as a key factor for material choice in the D ring. If it had been a ferrous metal as you had hoped it would rust away as soon as it is exposed to even rain, let alone rivers or puddles, even a stainless steel would corrode in these conditions (see cybertruck pannel issues), the same can be said of copper and most other metals. Something stable like brass or aluminium is the only choice in this situation, so the aluminium makes a lot more sense than you give credit for. Just some food r thought for future critiques.
    Great video regardless, love a bit of corporate shredding!

    • @mountainspider342
      @mountainspider342 Месяц назад +1

      Stainless d-rings if it was on this boot would still be in one piece and not rusted through at the dump while the rest of this boot would be garbage compose.

    • @Chrizzy.t
      @Chrizzy.t Месяц назад +9

      @@mountainspider342 But exactly the same can be said for the aluminium D-ring, its a light, strong material that doesn't corrode and it'll be there long after the rest of the boots have fallen apart. While I agree with the overall read of the video on big companies making shit products, imo the D-ring criticism is not 100% accurate so it provides a good opportunity to learn more and clarify.

    • @mountainspider342
      @mountainspider342 Месяц назад

      @@Chrizzy.t Good point

    • @dgoodman1484
      @dgoodman1484 Месяц назад +2

      Aluminum corrodes as well. Don’t believe me, ask someone with a Cessna! Although to be fair, if they chose a decent aluminum alloy for that D (and it’s safe to assume they didn’t) I’d be fine with it. Personally I doubt it was even aluminum. Likely zinc.

    • @BatCaveOz
      @BatCaveOz Месяц назад

      Copper would be fine.
      Some surface "patina"... sure, but it isn't bearing any significant tensile or shear load.

  • @nonmarking1
    @nonmarking1 15 дней назад

    Awesome Video!

  • @mirkoszitovszky7007
    @mirkoszitovszky7007 Месяц назад

    I love you man!! Keep on pushing!!!

  • @tooruoikawa8985
    @tooruoikawa8985 Месяц назад +9

    “It’s Gortex Jerry, GORTEX!” LOL

    • @mpqw
      @mpqw Месяц назад +1

      You like saying "Goretex" dont you?😂

  • @betulaobscura
    @betulaobscura Месяц назад +5

    Spot-on review!
    BS boots.

  • @Dnte-qg3mb
    @Dnte-qg3mb Месяц назад

    Can’t wait for the next version of NDs boots!!

  • @mw5145
    @mw5145 Месяц назад

    Incredible Video. You make a difference

  • @shaunpugh3287
    @shaunpugh3287 Месяц назад +13

    Would be interesting to see how European hiking boot brands compare to this - brands such as Altberg, Meindl, AKU, Lowa, Scarpa, etc.

    • @TylerWardhaha
      @TylerWardhaha Месяц назад +4

      They're not even in the same class. North Face was never really known for their boots, and when they started making them, they primarily made lightweight boots. European brands tend to be heaver and sturdier. I have a pair of Asolos that I've beat for about 15 years and I can still wear them. My dad had a pair of Asolos he bought in college and lasted for decades. My pair of Scarpa mountaineering boots will likely never wear out.

    • @JohnH-mo5mb
      @JohnH-mo5mb Месяц назад +2

      Every 20 years I buy a new pair of LOWA in Germany. What you can find on the US market is a joke.

    • @shaunpugh3287
      @shaunpugh3287 Месяц назад

      @@TylerWardhaha I know they are worlds apart, which is my point really - we've seen what not to buy, how about what we should buy. I've had a couple of pairs of Salomon's and recently a pair of Keen Targhee III's and while they are very comfortable the durability of them is not great. The Keen's also seem to struggle with wet and muddy conditions that we have in the UK. This, and wanting something better than Dr Martens is what got me onto this channel and just looking at boots in general. I've replaced the Keen's with a pair of Iturri Patrol boots, full leather, new in box for £70. I also got a pair of Altberg Defenders and I'll rotate between them for hikes and dog walks. I'll probably get something from AKU as a summer boot as they have lots of good options.

    • @shaunpugh3287
      @shaunpugh3287 Месяц назад +2

      @@JohnH-mo5mb It's not just the US market, it's also the UK market. Most high-street chains are full of mediocre or overpriced stuff. It amazes me how many of these companies brag about their green credentials, but all of their products are disposable. Almost none of them can be resoled.

    • @TylerWardhaha
      @TylerWardhaha Месяц назад

      @@shaunpugh3287 Quality wise I would say $250-300 is the sweet spot for European brand boots. The ASOLO tps520 of the powermatic 200, because of my experience with the brand, is what I personally would buy.
      The stiff midsole, the flexible tongue, seemingly indestructible Vibram outsole, and pulley lacing system make wearing these boots for a decade something I’ve never regretted.

  • @Kendo121e
    @Kendo121e Месяц назад +3

    breathable waterproof?

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 13 дней назад

      Yes that can be accomplished nowadays. Water vapor, which is what comes out of your skin, is in much smaller form than droplets. You can block the droplets, and let small water molecules pass through. However its not perfect, not all the perspiration will go through and it will start to build up eventually especially if youre doing athletics. But its much better than what we had before

  • @lexs.8713
    @lexs.8713 Месяц назад +1

    i love the internet and this channel

  • @Sam-qt5ff
    @Sam-qt5ff Месяц назад +1

    I sincerely hope that someday with enough people and channels like roseanvil, that we can run these big brands into the ground. Enough selling garbage. I want good stuff that’s gonna last me years. Heck. Even decades. I’m sick of the disposable world. Nothing is repairable not even shoes. This is obviously not sustainable. But what’s really hard as a consumer is to find the time to research what is good and what is garbage. So thanks roseanvil for making it a little bit easier. Your work is appreciated.

  • @jimmymc10021
    @jimmymc10021 Месяц назад +5

    North Face is a fashion brand now, they used to make top notch gear. I still have my Mountain Jacket from 96. However, nowadays about 99% of their gear is too poorly made for serious outdoor use.

    • @buckodonnghaile4309
      @buckodonnghaile4309 Месяц назад

      I still have my North Face steep tech Scott Schmitt jacket from the early 90s. Thing is indestructible. My son wears it at retro ski day. Yep, I'm old as dirt.

  • @xsickpeoplex
    @xsickpeoplex Месяц назад +5

    I wore north face hedgehogs for walking my dogs and playing airsoft in basically a swamp in nortu wales and they were EXCELLENT.
    About 3 years ago i got a new pair.
    The goretex references had gone. Changed for their own new in house materials tested in the french alps by record holding climmers and Olympic athleties.
    Took me 20 minutes on the field near me to get my feet SOAKED.
    Took them back to the shop and was told this was "impossible" because they had been tested in the Alps. Must be a malfunction in this pair somewhere and gave me a new pair. Next day....same wet feet. Took em back and they got sent away for testing for 4 weeks!
    Emded up with a refund and apology and an offer of a new pair with 40%. Didn't even bother.

    • @bradsmede
      @bradsmede Месяц назад

      The fastpack hedgehogs i bought in 2017 were my favourite lightweight hiking shoes ever. the generic outsoles were the only downside, but it still took 4 years of solid use to wear out. the rest of the shoe was almost as new. went to north face shop to buy some new ones and walked out empty handed because they were all dog shit. ironically the outsoles were the only thing that looked improved. was so sad :(

  • @galefraney
    @galefraney Месяц назад

    Excellent video!!!

  • @KidCorporate
    @KidCorporate Месяц назад +8

    Yeah but you can take a DEI class for 20% off!

  • @Trash-Castle
    @Trash-Castle Месяц назад +6

    Been like this since 2012

    • @sinepari9160
      @sinepari9160 Месяц назад +1

      Even before, when they sold out in 2k it was downhill and it's WAY downhill now lol

  • @michaelyates3424
    @michaelyates3424 Месяц назад

    Um, how do you really feel? Thanks again for the videos. Bought pairs of Thursdays boots for my wife, daughter and me for Christmas and we all love them.

  • @phillfromspain8154
    @phillfromspain8154 15 дней назад

    I work in geophysical exploration so we hike all day everyday when on contracts. I’ve tried Keen, karrimor (lasted like 2 days lol), Salamon and even hoka hiking boots (had foot problems at the time and they claimed to be good for the problem I had). My current boots are head and shoulders better than anything I’ve tried. If you do long distance hikes on rough terrain, not just dog walking on paths, I can’t recommend salweas enough. They’re the only boot that’s lasted me more than a year and they’re still going strong.

  • @dang.8743
    @dang.8743 Месяц назад +8

    When focus shifts from quality to DEI the result is hot 💩

    • @nile7999
      @nile7999 Месяц назад +1

      how mentally ill r u

    • @sumyunggui8750
      @sumyunggui8750 12 дней назад

      Seems to be a pattern nowadays...

  • @johnferguson40
    @johnferguson40 Месяц назад +5

    I LOVE THIS CHANNEL.

  • @Patrickorwa
    @Patrickorwa 14 дней назад

    Milwaukee work boots are out - can’t wait for the review

  • @dannyarcher6370
    @dannyarcher6370 20 дней назад

    I'm in the market to get into hiking and camping and am looking for my first pair of boot.s This is the kind of detail I'm looking for. Subbed!

  • @alanmaier
    @alanmaier Месяц назад +3

    Several years ago I bought a pair of North Face boots - they were a total joke. Never again.

  • @karenstein8261
    @karenstein8261 Месяц назад +3

    And they want HOW MUCH?!!!!
    Now you know why I have a bias in favor of Mil-spec or actual issue footware. Seems that’s the only way to get something both appropriate and affordable - buy something developed for, tested by, and made en masse for thousands of infantrymen. (FWIW, my current “winners” are the Desert Storm boots and the USAF boots).
    It’s a real pity, because I really like a “just over the ankle” boot. GI boots are taller than I prefer. (And USN Boondockers are unfit for use off the ship).
    I think “waterproof” is over-rated. Various liners break down, and truly waterproof boots quickly become foot saunas and fungus farms. I’d much rather use a very breathable, quick-dry boot coupled with multiple layers of socks. It’s amazing how much heat is generated simply by walking.

  • @Hellboy-sj4vk
    @Hellboy-sj4vk Месяц назад

    Hehehe always funny this types of videos ! And helpfull for us, so thank you !!

  • @lelenbates3367
    @lelenbates3367 Месяц назад

    Yeah thanks for the Bear Slayers, I have been trying to buy new work boots from JK and they don't have any inventory because they are busy apparently. Will there be a safety toe version of this boot?

  • @LostInIce4
    @LostInIce4 Месяц назад +9

    North Face used to be my favorite brand. I have spent tens of thousands of dollars on their products over the years. However, since they have become "woke," I will never buy anything from them again.

    • @hunterwilk
      @hunterwilk Месяц назад +3

      You're equating two totally separate things. Wokeness has absolutely nothing to do with them putting out shitty products. That's the fault of capitalism and being beholden to market share and stock holders. It's a company, their only goal is to make money. Whether that's by convincing idiots to buy their products because they are recycled or by convincing idiots to buy their products because they own the name of a company once respected by idiots, their only goal is to make money... They don't care about you and your opinions.

    • @ShaggyRodgers420
      @ShaggyRodgers420 Месяц назад

      So what company do you buy stuff from now?

    • @LostInIce4
      @LostInIce4 18 дней назад

      ​@ShaggyRodgers420 Mammut and Fjellreven are my go-to brands now.

  • @Lycan3303
    @Lycan3303 Месяц назад +5

    VF stock price down 86%

  • @CreatorMan12
    @CreatorMan12 Месяц назад +1

    Have you reviewed LOWA boots? I've personally had no complaints from my LOWA Renegade boots for years.

  • @gsp0113
    @gsp0113 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you so much for speaking truth to corporate power. Great content.

  • @donatelloDoesmachines13
    @donatelloDoesmachines13 Месяц назад +27

    i quit buying them once they went woke. I just want a clothing brand that does not force any ideology in my face.

    • @kennethmaclean9357
      @kennethmaclean9357 Месяц назад +3

      That's fine an all, but do you really think that's their ideology or maybe it's just a cynical marketing bit? They're basically saying to you, "we don't care that you won't buy as we've identified the consumers who will and they are worth more to our bottom line, bye". Personally, I won't buy them due to quality issues.

    • @donatelloDoesmachines13
      @donatelloDoesmachines13 Месяц назад +2

      @@kennethmaclean9357 I could not care any less about your comment

    • @this_isntmyname
      @this_isntmyname Месяц назад

      Walk i to a store, take their "Im an evil racist" quiz and maybe theyll give you 5% off​@@kennethmaclean9357

  • @fochdischitt3561
    @fochdischitt3561 Месяц назад +13

    They're chasing Bridge money and promoting DEI so screw them. I wont touch anything with their branding.

  • @PenRippyJr
    @PenRippyJr 18 дней назад

    thank you

  • @tomislavbaier
    @tomislavbaier Месяц назад +1

    Can you get your hands on some Italian brands like Scarpa, Asolo or Crispi and see if they are worth a try? I have a pair of Scarpa Rush Trek GTX and have been very pleased with them so far, but I have had them for only a year.

  • @Leo23XR
    @Leo23XR Месяц назад +4

    Too much negativity in those titles and videos bro.

  • @Barkotina
    @Barkotina Месяц назад +3

    I like how he disses the North Face and then casually promotes his own boot (twice).

    • @infunerous666
      @infunerous666 Месяц назад +5

      Yeah Because their boot is 💩, and his boot is not

    • @AriWeismanchester
      @AriWeismanchester Месяц назад +5

      Hes gotta pay the bills. Also, his boots are not competing with NF sneaker boot.If you are buying a pair of Bear Slayers you were never considering NF.

    • @christopherrowley7506
      @christopherrowley7506 Месяц назад

      As someone that designs boots he'd know what he's talking about. Also he does limited run collaborations with numerous companies, he doesn't have his own boot company.

  • @mustang19ms
    @mustang19ms 20 дней назад

    I wonder if you cut a boot to find that it's a good hiking boot?

  • @dirtyhannie
    @dirtyhannie 29 дней назад

    I actually retired my north face backpack yesterday after 17 years of service. Not because it is broken but because a new one was more practical. So they do make some great products.

  • @Barkotina
    @Barkotina Месяц назад +15

    But the boots you sell are better, right?

    • @danyuzunov
      @danyuzunov Месяц назад +3

      Am I missing something

    • @BL-yj2wp
      @BL-yj2wp Месяц назад +7

      The will certainly last longer. The lining on these North Face is a complete joke.
      Weather or not someone likes the fit and comfort is an individual decision, obviously.

    • @SAMK1
      @SAMK1 Месяц назад

      He's in his feelings, don't mind him​@@danyuzunov

    • @jamalsalads
      @jamalsalads Месяц назад +8

      @@danyuzunovyes obviously, thats like comparing your local burger joint to McDonald’s

    • @93DracoX
      @93DracoX Месяц назад +4

      Even if you hate the design they are certainly built to a standard that the rose anvil collabs will last longer. Which is the critique here.

  • @jdkgcp
    @jdkgcp Месяц назад +3

    Well I'll be sure to not walk through lava and...what else exactly?
    This guys like the stereotypical "hatetuber" but for....checks notes...boots? Bruh.

    • @Barkotina
      @Barkotina Месяц назад +2

      He sells boots too. They are the best. Everything else is thrash.

    • @christopherrowley7506
      @christopherrowley7506 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Barkotinahe doesn't really sell boots. He has collaborated on designing limited runs for numerous different companies

  • @Jay-bw3fl
    @Jay-bw3fl Месяц назад

    I have the low version of these and they’re very comfortable lol. Needed a waterproof shoe and started with the Gore Tex Hoka Clifton 9 gtx and they didn’t have the plastic shank and they hurt my heels and arches very bad. That thin plastic shank in the north face boots made all the difference for me. Plus they were on sale for about 80 bucks.

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies Месяц назад

    My North Face ultralightweight, waterproof boots are absolutely perfect for the use-case I intended for them: playing disc golf in wet conditions.
    They keep my feet dry, even if I stand in water 70mm deep. The grip is superb, and doesn't get clogged with mud.
    The only downside is that the top hooks for the laces are a bit tight, and need careful use.

  • @TommyNitro
    @TommyNitro Месяц назад

    I was interested in the bear slayer, but the Munson last and 7inch are a must.

  • @yo1717zh
    @yo1717zh Месяц назад

    Wearing The North Face Safien GTX for 3 years now, still no issues, very comfortable.
    I have the one from this video, but haven't cold winter last year to wear it 😂

  • @Anza_34832
    @Anza_34832 Месяц назад +1

    @3:17 Thanks for giving credit 💪🇩🇪 🍻

  • @commander_fu6457
    @commander_fu6457 16 дней назад +2

    This is true to most things nowadays. "Shoes" are not a hard problem to solve in an advanced civilization like we are living in currently. But the problem is, once your company has developed a really good shoe and the market is saturated your company can't grow anymore and therefore will fail. That's why companies create new desires through "design", since we all strife to individualize ourselves and sell them as if its is something really valuable and good while it is just hot air, that nobody ACTUALLY needs.

  • @TheRetroEngine
    @TheRetroEngine 12 дней назад

    I don't wear boots, don't go hiking, but wow I think I need a pair of those boots with the quick lace mechanism.