It always is………unfortunately that’s why u should never work in any hospital or care home ect in any capacity….your life and reputation is on the line for such risky jobs
In my opionon the worst case , corrupt police, lying incompetent doctors , biased judge , NHS run like a Soviet tractor factory in the days of Stalin . Turns out the mangement were correct in backing Lucy pity they swapped sides
Read about Peter Ellis and the Christchurch creche if you want to see the double tragedy of false guilt and the impact on the innocent. Never trust the police.
I've said all along she wasn't guilty the hospital just want a scape goat someone to pin all the blame on just think what that woman has gone through !!
Strange isn't it that of all the medical serial killers Lucy used so many different modi. It was clear to me that these babies suffer oesophageal intubation during resuscitation. It is what happens when junior medical staff are involved in neonate resus.
I can't believe how a guilty verdict came about. Possibly the jury didn't understand the terminology used. Legal jargon is hard enough, but medical terms are far more difficult than Legal.
Funny, my Mum 80 yrs of age, has insisted she never murdered those babies. However, she goes by looks a lot. If she had had shark-cold eyes, my Mum wouldn't have said anything. She always says, you can tell whether a person is a good person by their eyes. The case just didn't make sense to her. I am not even sure she understood the evidence. Some people think they have an instinct. I am not so sure you can tell a murderer by their eyes, but I will be watching this one lol
It was a very emotional trial and at least 2/3 of brits trust the CJS in terms of getting it right but over time bits and pieces might make once skeptics think. If she has been wrongfully charged and it is proved she was innocent then we can all demand her immediate release and a huge compensation package whilst a new investigation is launched into the hospital but until then she has been found guilty by a jury of her peers and should continue to serve her sentence
The triumvirate of consultants, one a minor tv celebrity, who reported Letby to the police when their own competency had come under the spotlight in a report, should have been treated as suspects themselves.
Even the post-it note that Letby wrote which was given as evidence of her guilt, it turns out was in response to therapy sessions in which she was encouraged to express dark and irrational thoughts by writing them out. Yet the jury was not told this! Puts quite a different light on it.
@@Etcher if you could point out one bit of the 85% you claim is incorrect, that’d be great. What the OP stated was pointed out at the time of the trial
They keep banging on about the notes they found, but I work as a therapist myself and it is very common practice to suggest writing feelings down. That's all it is.
In this country at this time with what we've experienced over the last four years does any rational person put any faith in the legal system, judges, or the competence of the Establishment powers in general
As a person that’s dealt with that hospital first hand, and had someone very close to me sue them for serious medical issues whilst in their care, and at every opportunity the highest consults where always trying to pin blame on the lower level colleagues. I still believe that Lucy was framed for other people’s actions!
That's the problem with experts. You'll always get different interpretations until in the end it's a game of "I'm more experty than you though!" and that's how you decide who the winner is. 🙄
Ask yourself, if this was a Neonate ICU, why was Lucy left alone with infants that demand a 2 to one nursing ratio. She was made a scapegoat for the failed NHS.
Imagine if this was a death row case its absolutely a miscarriage of justice she should have the door open and let out never mind appealing that poor nurse i hope shes compensated for every day she has spent in prison and the parents of the little children may you have peace in knowing the real truth and not a scapegoat for there poor babies.....
Cases like this are the main reason I’m against the death-penalty. Not saying she’s innocent, but she might very well be. There’s a long-standing case closer to me where a dude called Luke Mitchell was imprisoned 2 decades ago for the murder of his then girlfriend. Another case that has strong intimations that it could be a miscarriage of justice. In both cases, everything is circumstantial. I’m not a betting man, but if I had to put money on Lucy Letby and Luke Mitchell being innocent, I would wager a pretty good amount in each case.
I've no idea if she's guilty or not but your main point is so very important. Our society as a whole, has to understand that the police are trained to find as much as possible against a person. They have never been there to find the truth. Their role needs to change. The police work in a similar system to a salesman,they are there to make a sale(conviction) and to emphasize as much as possible that points towards guilt. The courts decide guilt in a competition where whoever puts forward the best argument wins.The police are bound to be on the side of the prosecution. Every person put on trial is on the wrong side of police policy regardless of guilt. The police are not unbiased as their role is historically to achieve a conviction.
Poor standards? With 7,000,000 plus waiting list and 120,000 posts unfilled what could possibly go wrong in the rest of the NHS? Time the government started dealing with the trashing of the NHS by providing the funding, pay and services needed and holding to account those who are extorting money from the NHS. Allowing PFI schemes to extort enormous rents is not victimless.
Never understood why TV cameras were at her house when arrested, is it normal for police to inform the media of their intentions, even though she hadn't been tried. That was strange.
She wrote those notes at a time when she was removed from the unit and under suspicion. She was feeling guilty and responsible because she was being made to feel like she was a failure as a nurse and she had killed them. God knows what amount of stress she was under, I can’t imagine how she must have been feeling and where her mind was going but I imagine it went to the darkest depths. Doesn’t make her guilty.
Did you actually listen to the two hours of finding in the press conference today? He went through every single death of every baby in great detail and it was concluded and agreed upon, by 14 of the worlds most renowned authorities in this field, that it was the negligence and incompetence of the doctors and consultants in the treatment and mis-diagnosis, that was the cause of death of these babies. There is no evidence whatsoever pointing to Lucy Letby. This investigation has proven there were no air embolisms. And it was proven that she did not overdose or introduce insulin into the IV bags..
Everybody that was calling for the death penalty to be reintroduced last week would have needed to learn necromancy for justice to have been delivered in this case. If thats not a clear indication of why its a terrible idea..Im not sure what is.
So it was bad hospital stanards that done it and not lucy herself? Huh really? Then again like the presenter said, why not bring that up the first time around?
She was an escape goat so the hospital should not be liable. She never did this and knew it…..she will be vindicated and she probably will get the biggest payout of all time for what the CPS/POLICE/HOSPITAL has done to her and her family.
Remember how those evil bastards at the BBC. Were not bothered those girls were stabbed .and died in agony. Their first thought was we will cover up this Islamist terrorist to say the opposite of islam and call him a gentle choir boy. Who like any good boy scout. Looked on the internet on the best ways to murderer people from this country who took him in the girls were white. But no mention of racist attack
Most people I know can recollect a bad experience at certain maternity wards. I believe beds, and ward coordinators need to be investigated. There may be something about pregnant women being diagnosed with gestational diabetes while having normal blood sugar levels, preeclampsia, and oxytocin drips being run like a tap during C-19 lockdowns (not just during, but may have escalated during C19).
Yeah it don’t add up and we all know how awful our legal and health systems have become. They wanted a big case and to blind side the public and didn’t care. They made it fit.
"However, specialists have now said that it was wrong for scientists representing Liverpool Clinical Laboratories to insist that the only explanation was insulin poisoning, warning that the tests are notoriously unreliable as antibodies can cause interference. Dr Adel Ismail, a retired consultant in clinical biochemistry and chemical endocrinology who was the head of an NHS pathology lab for 25 years, said that at least one in every 200 “immunoassay” tests is wrong and believes from personal experience that the figure is closer to one in every 100 and possibly higher. “Of all the technologies we use in the lab for measurements, the one with the highest error rate is the immunoassay and this is usually due to interference in an individual sample."
So investigste the investigators, the regulators, the prosecutors, those who made allegations, the managers, the colleagues, the witnesses, the lawyers...in other words, all those who Didn't look after the babies 🐐
The main point for the jury, the judge and most of UK's populace... the police thoroughly investigated their only two options. A) It was a failure of staffing care generally, and/or their environment. B) Or if was a specific member of staff. Firstly just one, then all three doctors in the same department agreed it was Letby. The police could find no expert to categorically claim the environment or poor 'staffing procedures', could be the cause - Letby was the only possible suspect. She could enter and leave the ward without being noticed, at any time of the day or night. The Police then 'unfortunately' built a case around her, that was probably not safe. But to everyone involved in the case...all believed it could've only been her. 'Distraught at seeing 'the dangerously premature' suffering, she decided to end their support'. For who would believe a well educated doctor might 'frame' a naive nurse... is inconceivable.
Read the New Yorker article - A British Nurse Was Found Guilty of Killing Seven Babies. Did She Do It? It looks like the babies weren't murdered. It's very tragic.
You either have evidence or you do not. Regardless of how horrible the accusation.. regardless of how strange the accused behaviour might be.. evidence has to mean evidence they actually did the crime. Otherwise we are in the world of witch craft trials. Was there evidence the accused did the crime? If not.. better get a retrial then, regardless of the inconvenience.
Then why did she not attend her sentencing to plead her innocence? If I was on jury duty then that alone would swing my vote against her it was such an arrogant move that stains her character . Lucy had nothing to lose by attending her sentencing, it should be the law anyway.
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As soon as something like this happens in any hospital massive steps are taken to make sure it doesn't happen again and improve the quality of the care given, the hospital would have made big changes to try and rebuild their reputation, I'm open minded but we seem to have a recent history of miscarriages of justice
easy for anyone actually responsible to STOP doing it and think they got away with it? . This used to be my local hospital , the standard of care in that place is shocking
A lot of word salad about standards and practices and sub optimal care, but no substance. If letby didn't kill those babies then what EXACTLY did? I hope the parents can sue David Davis for putting them through all of this.. Disgraceful politicisation of a monster that should never have had access to anyone's babies.
This isn't the middle ages. There was a distinct pattern in babies getting ill on her watch. There were the admissions she wrote down. Tory ministers have a way of seeing deaths at NHS hospitals that speaks for itself.
@ Oh really? Was this the first and only intensive care unit for babies in the world? Did she take on this position on her own with no other staff to help her or look after any of the babies?
@@stonehengemaca Yes really. No, it's not the only intensive care unit in which babies died, its happens a lot all over the world. She worked as part of a team and most of the babies she helped to care for, didn't die.
I’m sure all involved with this case will want the cause, or culprit brought to justice. And not see an innocent person to have to serve a life sentence for a crime they didn’t commit.
This and other tiltok sleuthing has a coincidental effect of driving money and attention. The deaths started where she was working in 2 different hospitals and then they stopped. The torture of the families needs to also stop.
@@unatwomey7112so, the justice system shouldn't ever be scrutinised? They always get it right? And anyone who says otherwise is torturing the families? Tell that to The Guilford 4 and The Birmingham 6 and their families.
People of honour, integrity and good standing work for free when they can see something which is catastrophically wrong. Only mercenaries are bothered about money, ask Dewi Evans how much he got for his story telling.
I don't think this appeal will work, it would have to be sufficient to undermine the considerable circumstantial evidence of her guilt. Funny how the death rate dropped once she was denied entry. If you really believe she is innocent, let her babysit your baby. No takers? Thought so.
@@robleeuknhl3345 Nobody had more information than the jury in this case. Yet they convicted her unanimously with seven murders. Maybe just have a bit of appreciation of your limited information before making judgements. Fortunately the courts are above the rampant uninformed opinions that fills the world these days.
@@peterwilson7532 Two people have responded directly to your main point about the death rate dropping, giving a straight-forward and convincing rebuttal. You have shifted the goalposts back to how the jury convicted her, which everyone already knows and with which nobody has picked issue, whilst acting high and mighty as if you have actually made a good argument. Weird way to engage in the debate and not particularly helpful for your cause. Maybe just take the ego hit and concede on the point about the death rate dropping, as that has clearly been explained. It would go a long way towards removing some of the "rampant uninformed opinions".
Would this much energy be put into overturning her conviction if she were a poor black or muslim woman from Peckham? I doubt it. Poor Lily white Lucy can't surely have done it. 🙄🤔
Course she did it. But a man with glasses says she didn’t so she must be innocent. 9 months trial but apparently jury are wrong. Please stop this now, it’s damaging for the families
Sounds like a hospital cover up , scape goated her ?
You social media detectives are out in force again as usual defending the criminal
yes
Why did she write letters saying she was evil then ? 😂😂😂😂 what a moron
Well if it sounds like a cover up presented by her lawyers it must be true 🙃
It always is………unfortunately that’s why u should never work in any hospital or care home ect in any capacity….your life and reputation is on the line for such risky jobs
One of the biggest miscarriages of justice ever seen in this country.
In my opionon the worst case , corrupt police, lying incompetent doctors , biased judge , NHS run like a Soviet tractor factory in the days of Stalin . Turns out the mangement were correct in backing Lucy pity they swapped sides
You haven’t been looking then
😮 poor Lucy Letby........
@@deadeyes4626exactly
The poor parents of these children have been misled, and a caring nurse has been scapegoated to cover up inadequate care and resourcing.
Read about Peter Ellis and the Christchurch creche if you want to see the double tragedy of false guilt and the impact on the innocent. Never trust the police.
Caring nurse? Delusional idiots name for a baby killer
caring nurse? lol
@NapWinter Yes!
@NapWinterso surprised a guy’s saying this simp💩
Stitched up for a failure of the system , blamed for others neglect.
I've said all along she wasn't guilty the hospital just want a scape goat someone to pin all the blame on just think what that woman has gone through !!
WELL SAID
Strange isn't it that of all the medical serial killers Lucy used so many different modi. It was clear to me that these babies suffer oesophageal intubation during resuscitation. It is what happens when junior medical staff are involved in neonate resus.
I can't believe how a guilty verdict came about. Possibly the jury didn't understand the terminology used. Legal jargon is hard enough, but medical terms are far more difficult than Legal.
@@rozzbrookes9078 "I can't believe how a guilty verdict came about" you obviously paid zero attention then.
Funny, my Mum 80 yrs of age, has insisted she never murdered those babies. However, she goes by looks a lot. If she had had shark-cold eyes, my Mum wouldn't have said anything. She always says, you can tell whether a person is a good person by their eyes. The case just didn't make sense to her. I am not even sure she understood the evidence. Some people think they have an instinct. I am not so sure you can tell a murderer by their eyes, but I will be watching this one lol
The same people commenting here about a miscarriage of justice were slating Lucy Letby in RUclips comments during her trial = absolute sheep.
It was a very emotional trial and at least 2/3 of brits trust the CJS in terms of getting it right but over time bits and pieces might make once skeptics think. If she has been wrongfully charged and it is proved she was innocent then we can all demand her immediate release and a huge compensation package whilst a new investigation is launched into the hospital but until then she has been found guilty by a jury of her peers and should continue to serve her sentence
The triumvirate of consultants, one a minor tv celebrity, who reported Letby to the police when their own competency had come under the spotlight in a report, should have been treated as suspects themselves.
My thoughts exactly
Even the post-it note that Letby wrote which was given as evidence of her guilt, it turns out was in response to therapy sessions in which she was encouraged to express dark and irrational thoughts by writing them out. Yet the jury was not told this! Puts quite a different light on it.
@@keyfeatures and the dark and irrational thoughts came later due directly to the hounding.
She’s wasn’t depressed at the time of the alleged crimes
oh please, you have about 15% of that correct.
@@Etcher if you could point out one bit of the 85% you claim is incorrect, that’d be great. What the OP stated was pointed out at the time of the trial
Poor Lucy, I always believed she was the scapegoat. I hope she gets proper justice and sues the NHS.
So what 'evidence' did the prosecution use to convince the jury she was guilty?
An expert witness that misrepresented a paper written by this expert.
@@AndiWardthat one expert should be on trial himself. Attention seeker.
They didn’t have any pure evidence it was all circumstantial.
It was just circumstantial evidence.
@@PeppermintPatties Most of it wasn't even that, it was just created for the purpose of convincing a jury she was guilty.
They keep banging on about the notes they found, but I work as a therapist myself and it is very common practice to suggest writing feelings down. That's all it is.
Exactly and also common for people to look up people on Facebook so many people do that all the time, doesn't make them a killer.
She has taken the fall for something or someone. Obvious.
she said all along the doctors were fitting her up .but no one listened
Is is really that obvious. Please elaborate.
Thrown under the bus to cover up.
I've often wondered if Lucy was blamed by bad doctors to cover their mistakes....negligence by medics is a real thing unfortunately
Young female nurse scapegoated, doubt she murdered any of them.
In this country at this time with what we've experienced over the last four years does any rational person put any faith in the legal system, judges, or the competence of the Establishment powers in general
Ive seen in horse racing the judicial system is very very suspect.
British history is littered with high profile coruption and miscaridges of justice, the last four years is irrelevent.
our prisons are full to breaking point because the CPS is addicted to convicting the innocent.
As a person that’s dealt with that hospital first hand, and had someone very close to me sue them for serious medical issues whilst in their care, and at every opportunity the highest consults where always trying to pin blame on the lower level colleagues. I still believe that Lucy was framed for other people’s actions!
If it turns out that Letby is innocent this is truly shocking and changes everything in the UK
That's the problem with experts. You'll always get different interpretations until in the end it's a game of "I'm more experty than you though!" and that's how you decide who the winner is. 🙄
Flawed evidence, no motive, She is innocent.
Aye the Tories got her wrong she should be released and she should sue the hospital
The tories?
@@carolinecarberry1160 tories? They’re scum, but not directly involved
Cover up by the hospital, police and judiciary
This has been going on for nearly 10 years (first case June 2015) & this is the first we are hearing about this?!
Everyone was too caught up in the witch hunt.
Ask yourself, if this was a Neonate ICU, why was Lucy left alone with infants that demand a 2 to one nursing ratio. She was made a scapegoat for the failed NHS.
Only if you only listened to the msm during the trial. Other media did question the narrative.
No. It’s the first the MSM are reporting on it
Not at all. People have been shouting this all day long.
But the mob was baying for blood.
Imagine if this was a death row case its absolutely a miscarriage of justice she should have the door open and let out never mind appealing that poor nurse i hope shes compensated for every day she has spent in prison and the parents of the little children may you have peace in knowing the real truth and not a scapegoat for there poor babies.....
The hospital was a calamity. The defense team just rolled over and produced no evidence.
If she gets a re trial and found innocent!! Boyy shes goner get millions and rightfully so
Ok, let’s put The McCanns in trial now.
😂😂😂 had to laugh
If the McCanns had been working class (or not doctors) they would have been charged with neglect imo
@@derpleyew the sun already did that
Cases like this are the main reason I’m against the death-penalty. Not saying she’s innocent, but she might very well be. There’s a long-standing case closer to me where a dude called Luke Mitchell was imprisoned 2 decades ago for the murder of his then girlfriend. Another case that has strong intimations that it could be a miscarriage of justice. In both cases, everything is circumstantial. I’m not a betting man, but if I had to put money on Lucy Letby and Luke Mitchell being innocent, I would wager a pretty good amount in each case.
Highly likely she is innocent.
If she is innocent then god will prove it and she will be free
Never doubted her innocence for a moment. I spent 16 years in ICU, 3 as director and this was classic cya witch hunting. Never trust the police.
I've no idea if she's guilty or not but your main point is so very important. Our society as a whole, has to understand that the police are trained to find as much as possible against a person. They have never been there to find the truth. Their role needs to change. The police work in a similar system to a salesman,they are there to make a sale(conviction) and to emphasize as much as possible that points towards guilt. The courts decide guilt in a competition where whoever puts forward the best argument wins.The police are bound to be on the side of the prosecution. Every person put on trial is on the wrong side of police policy regardless of guilt. The police are not unbiased as their role is historically to achieve a conviction.
Poor standards? With 7,000,000 plus waiting list and 120,000 posts unfilled what could possibly go wrong in the rest of the NHS? Time the government started dealing with the trashing of the NHS by providing the funding, pay and services needed and holding to account those who are extorting money from the NHS. Allowing PFI schemes to extort enormous rents is not victimless.
Will lucy be let out ov jail if this is correct? 😮. If so she will need to be protected. Gulty or not. She will be a wanted woman😮
WOW...😮😮😮😮...POOR WOMAN THEN. EVERYONE HAS TO SAID TO HER SORRY.
Never understood why TV cameras were at her house when arrested, is it normal for police to inform the media of their intentions, even though she hadn't been tried. That was strange.
What about the notes she wrote in her diary saying she was evil with regards to those babies
She wrote those notes at a time when she was removed from the unit and under suspicion. She was feeling guilty and responsible because she was being made to feel like she was a failure as a nurse and she had killed them. God knows what amount of stress she was under, I can’t imagine how she must have been feeling and where her mind was going but I imagine it went to the darkest depths. Doesn’t make her guilty.
I thought all these babies had got insuline shots which was the cause... What happened to that "evidence"?
Did you actually listen to the two hours of finding in the press conference today? He went through every single death of every baby in great detail and it was concluded and agreed upon, by 14 of the worlds most renowned authorities in this field, that it was the negligence and incompetence of the doctors and consultants in the treatment and mis-diagnosis, that was the cause of death of these babies. There is no evidence whatsoever pointing to Lucy Letby. This investigation has proven there were no air embolisms. And it was proven that she did not overdose or introduce insulin into the IV bags..
Didn't you listen to this presentation
Easy, Dewi Evans changed his mind.
Not all but some did but is conveniently being ignored by the free Lucy brigade.
@@robleeuknhl3345presented by her lawyers!.. you can’t be this brain dead
I've said this since the start. I'm not sure what it is, but I don't think she's guilty.
@@Giantdwarf00 she didn’t fit any kind of profile for a serial killer, there was no MO, the evidence provided was circumstantial or hearsay.
Everybody that was calling for the death penalty to be reintroduced last week would have needed to learn necromancy for justice to have been delivered in this case.
If thats not a clear indication of why its a terrible idea..Im not sure what is.
The incompetent staff and managers for whom LL was the scapegoat will have returned to their own countries by now.
Set up, she was stupid enough to think it might be her doing it.
Who wouldn't freak out and question themselves in that situation?
She was diagnosed with PTSD because of all the accusations, none of us would be able to think straight in those circumstances.
She has zero resource or knowledge of how to approach the expert that is capable of doing justice.
What about the seeping of ‘raw sewage’ into the neonatal unit?
Or was that a false rumour?
So it was bad hospital stanards that done it and not lucy herself? Huh really? Then again like the presenter said, why not bring that up the first time around?
She was an escape goat so the hospital should not be liable. She never did this and knew it…..she will be vindicated and she probably will get the biggest payout of all time for what the CPS/POLICE/HOSPITAL has done to her and her family.
It’s been 5 years she’s been locked up I wonder how much compensation they deem fit for the loss of 5 yrs of freedom is worth
That hospital, the police, prosecutors, & the judge have alot of question to answet in locking up an up innocent person
What a shabby miscarriage of justice.
Except the letters she wrote ? Saying she was a devil
Who would have guessed no BBC news coverage on this
It's been on BBC via broadcast TV today.
Remember how those evil bastards at the BBC. Were not bothered those girls were stabbed .and died in agony. Their first thought was we will cover up this Islamist terrorist to say the opposite of islam and call him a gentle choir boy. Who like any good boy scout. Looked on the internet on the best ways to murderer people from this country who took him in the girls were white. But no mention of racist attack
What are you on about?
You what?
It was the third item on the BBC evening news, after the school shooting in Sweden and Trump's tariffs.
I wouldnt trust this devil with a bag of jelly babies.
She fell foul of the British legal system so who knows what the truth is, can not take anything for granted thats for sure.
I think Lucy Letby was set up by senior staff who were her colleagues! June H
If only the NHS hadn't been critically underfunded, understaffed, under-resourced and underpaid for the last 20 years.
Who defended her and how did they drop the ball like this?
People have been expressing concerns over this since she was incarcerated, I hope the truth will out but I doubt it.
This conviction on this ex nurse will make all other murder convictions seem trivial.
Most people I know can recollect a bad experience at certain maternity wards.
I believe beds, and ward coordinators need to be investigated.
There may be something about pregnant women being diagnosed with gestational diabetes while having normal blood sugar levels, preeclampsia, and oxytocin drips being run like a tap during C-19 lockdowns (not just during, but may have escalated during C19).
… and her diary confession to being a muderer?
Let the jury decide.
seems like a case of gross negligence . I hope she is released .
Yeah it don’t add up and we all know how awful our legal and health systems have become. They wanted a big case and to blind side the public and didn’t care. They made it fit.
I can't imagine how difficult it must be for a woman in a women's prison for a crime like that.
No evidence - what about the synthetic insulin injected into the babies? How did that happen? She is guilty.
"However, specialists have now said that it was wrong for scientists representing Liverpool Clinical Laboratories to insist that the only explanation was insulin poisoning, warning that the tests are notoriously unreliable as antibodies can cause interference.
Dr Adel Ismail, a retired consultant in clinical biochemistry and chemical endocrinology who was the head of an NHS pathology lab for 25 years, said that at least one in every 200 “immunoassay” tests is wrong and believes from personal experience that the figure is closer to one in every 100 and possibly higher.
“Of all the technologies we use in the lab for measurements, the one with the highest error rate is the immunoassay and this is usually due to interference in an individual sample."
So investigste the investigators, the regulators, the prosecutors, those who made allegations, the managers, the colleagues, the witnesses, the lawyers...in other words, all those who Didn't look after the babies
🐐
The main point for the jury, the judge and most of UK's populace... the police thoroughly investigated their only two options.
A) It was a failure of staffing care generally, and/or their environment. B) Or if was a specific member of staff.
Firstly just one, then all three doctors in the same department agreed it was Letby.
The police could find no expert to categorically claim the environment or poor 'staffing procedures',
could be the cause - Letby was the only possible suspect.
She could enter and leave the ward without being noticed, at any time of the day or night.
The Police then 'unfortunately' built a case around her, that was probably not safe.
But to everyone involved in the case...all believed it could've only been her.
'Distraught at seeing 'the dangerously premature' suffering, she decided to end their support'.
For who would believe a well educated doctor might 'frame' a naive nurse... is inconceivable.
She is due millions in comp !
The authorities have done a right number on this poor woman
So the real killer is still out there?
If it's not Lucy Letby then there is probably no killer, just a hospital with a poor infant mortality rate.
The real killers were the Drs whagging their fingers at Lucy…
Yeah shity british hospital's
Yeah. His name is Jeremy Hunt...
Read the New Yorker article - A British Nurse Was Found Guilty of Killing Seven Babies. Did She Do It?
It looks like the babies weren't murdered. It's very tragic.
Well Lucy Letby did a horrible job trying to defend herself from what I've heard from her court appearances, if it's true that she's innocent.
I had a strange feeling about this one from the start. I didn't look very deep in to it but my gut said she was innocent.
Who are these alleged experts? Give me a break. Would all this be happening if it were any other nurse?! I think not.
Explain what you mean by any other nurse
@@robleeuknhl3345 a non white British woman.
"Bad medical care" that obviously led to deaths, intentional negligence. Look at what she wrote in her own diary about her own actions!
Always felt that something was off with this case. Trial by media.
She confessed privately under no duress. If she is innocent she has only herself to blame.
Everyone’s an expert after all the trials…
Exactly
You either have evidence or you do not. Regardless of how horrible the accusation.. regardless of how strange the accused behaviour might be.. evidence has to mean evidence they actually did the crime. Otherwise we are in the world of witch craft trials. Was there evidence the accused did the crime? If not.. better get a retrial then, regardless of the inconvenience.
Then why did she not attend her sentencing to plead her innocence? If I was on jury duty then that alone would swing my vote against her it was such an arrogant move that stains her character . Lucy had nothing to lose by attending her sentencing, it should be the law anyway.
Oh my god.
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If so wow this is awful.
Scrap the NHS
Its embolisms..not emblems
Watch the video of her arrested at home she’s guilty
Yet when she was no longer working on the ward the alarming death rates ceased...
Keeping an open mind
As soon as something like this happens in any hospital massive steps are taken to make sure it doesn't happen again and improve the quality of the care given, the hospital would have made big changes to try and rebuild their reputation, I'm open minded but we seem to have a recent history of miscarriages of justice
easy for anyone actually responsible to STOP doing it and think they got away with it? . This used to be my local hospital , the standard of care in that place is shocking
For who would believe a well educated doctor might 'frame' a naive nurse... it's inconceivable.
Because they down graded the ward to be lower dependency
Maybe because the hospital upped its performance levels after her arrest. Think outside the box.
A lot of word salad about standards and practices and sub optimal care, but no substance. If letby didn't kill those babies then what EXACTLY did? I hope the parents can sue David Davis for putting them through all of this.. Disgraceful politicisation of a monster that should never have had access to anyone's babies.
People of all ages die, including babies, It's mostly not someone's fault. The babies were not in day care, they were in intensive care.
This isn't the middle ages. There was a distinct pattern in babies getting ill on her watch. There were the admissions she wrote down. Tory ministers have a way of seeing deaths at NHS hospitals that speaks for itself.
@ Oh really? Was this the first and only intensive care unit for babies in the world? Did she take on this position on her own with no other staff to help her or look after any of the babies?
@@stonehengemaca Yes really. No, it's not the only intensive care unit in which babies died, its happens a lot all over the world. She worked as part of a team and most of the babies she helped to care for, didn't die.
I’m sure all involved with this case will want the cause, or culprit brought to justice. And not see an innocent person to have to serve a life sentence for a crime they didn’t commit.
free this diva
Who is paying for these quacks for hire?
This and other tiltok sleuthing has a coincidental effect of driving money and attention. The deaths started where she was working in 2 different hospitals and then they stopped. The torture of the families needs to also stop.
Quacks as in the leading experts in the world?
@@unatwomey7112so, the justice system shouldn't ever be scrutinised? They always get it right? And anyone who says otherwise is torturing the families? Tell that to The Guilford 4 and The Birmingham 6 and their families.
@@unatwomey7112 These trolls do not care, they are totally devoid of empathy for the victims' families.
People of honour, integrity and good standing work for free when they can see something which is catastrophically wrong.
Only mercenaries are bothered about money, ask Dewi Evans how much he got for his story telling.
They are making a stupid decision she did it every one knows it
Really? Evidence...
Clown
Is every case going to get the attention of David Davis? 💩🤡
Only two people know the truth: Lucy Letby and her boyfriend
Innocent!
I don't think this appeal will work, it would have to be sufficient to undermine the considerable circumstantial evidence of her guilt.
Funny how the death rate dropped once she was denied entry. If you really believe she is innocent, let her babysit your baby. No takers? Thought so.
But it only dropped because as soon as she left they lowered the ward to less dependent babies
The unit was downgraded, obviously you need to research the case
@@robleeuknhl3345 Nobody had more information than the jury in this case. Yet they convicted her unanimously with seven murders. Maybe just have a bit of appreciation of your limited information before making judgements. Fortunately the courts are above the rampant uninformed opinions that fills the world these days.
@@peterwilson7532 Two people have responded directly to your main point about the death rate dropping, giving a straight-forward and convincing rebuttal. You have shifted the goalposts back to how the jury convicted her, which everyone already knows and with which nobody has picked issue, whilst acting high and mighty as if you have actually made a good argument. Weird way to engage in the debate and not particularly helpful for your cause.
Maybe just take the ego hit and concede on the point about the death rate dropping, as that has clearly been explained. It would go a long way towards removing some of the "rampant uninformed opinions".
Would this much energy be put into overturning her conviction if she were a poor black or muslim woman from Peckham? I doubt it. Poor Lily white Lucy can't surely have done it. 🙄🤔
They are crazy lies lies trying to get her off the hook shut up you lot
Inclls quiet 🤫
When arrested she never reacted like an innocent person simple.
Yes she did.
Good thing you're not on a jury. You can't base someones guilt on how they react to police showing up
Learn about the fight, flight, freeze, fawn response.
She was shocked ya 🤡
How does an innocent person react?
Course she did it. But a man with glasses says she didn’t so she must be innocent. 9 months trial but apparently jury are wrong. Please stop this now, it’s damaging for the families
Stop showing this face
Why
We really need translation when the Chinese dude mangles the English language like that.
Trump will get her freed
What
He's too busy with your Mum.
😂
Dewi Evans should be arrested on fraud charges
Lucy is innocent its a terrible miscarriage of justice free her NOW