Was inevitable that Marino, Kelly, river, luck, etc would win a Super Bowl and none of them did. The ravens were healthy the last 2 years and came up well short of the SB. That’s problematic bc being as healthy as they were is very rare come playoff time
What irks me is BAL has to stop going out against the grain. They called 0 designed runs for LJ. Guys, that’s like having Shaq and keeping him on the perimeter all game. Or having Curry and telling him to bang the paint all day. Compare that to BUF who called 10 runs for JA and PHILLY who called 20+ zone/read options between JH and SB. You can’t keep going out like that. I fully expect them to make some changes to the coaching staff. You should never settle for 3 when you have 1st and goal from the 2 with DH and LJ.
I'm not fully defending Lamar Jackson when it comes to the post season but when are we going to start having a little more conversation about John Harbuagh
Here's why, he's an excellent head coach. Lol. Your only as good as the sum of your pieces. Ask Mike Tomlin about that. Coaches like Mike and John can make lesser teams over perform. The ravens are built as a run first team, if you are able to stop the RB and contain LJ we all see what happens. Happens every year, LJ isn't as good a passer as JA or Pat. LJ needs to be able to run, or have his RB run all over the defense opening up passing lanes. LJ is fkn amazing, he just has one flaw. A flaw that could be solved with top tier wide outs.
@BestintheWorld247 the coach can't catch the ball nor can he throw or hold on to it.Thats why the players make the money they do .Having said that get a fast player over a smart one has consequences speed run out fast.The mind last a lot longer. 0 super bowls 7 super bowl u see.
His argument is super weak though…… as much as we try to make it as QB vs QB in the NFl …ITS NOT …it sounds good though . …Brady didn’t lose to Nick foles because Foles was a better qb /out played him that day 😂😂😂😢😢…
@@Xtcmxm stop what!! You said that like it mattered he fumbled in the 3rd quarter and the eagles had no turnovers. Wtf are you talking about we're talking about the super bowl game. He had 505 yards passing but that fumble is the reason they lost the game. You one of them dudes that brag you smashed a chick but she got nothing out of it. So did you win no you didn't. Shut up arguing like you made a real point. They lost so it don't matter
@@Ultrabmw319 you’re one of those dudes that hates on the “one guy” who gets all the chicks even though he “has nothing going for himself “ lol get a grip bruh . There’s no way that one “fumble “ cost the patriots the game
He’d be GOATED immediately. With the best head start possible. Would be crazy history to witness. BUT nahh I need to witness my Bills win the 1st one. A rematch from 92’ Super Bowl would be dope.
It's pretty obvious what the NFL is going for here. They don't want to see a pretty boy white guy Josh Allen remind them of what Tom Brady did the league. They're all rooting for the dark skin quarterback. Trying to appeal to the Urban kids more. I don't agree with that assessment cuz I think it doesn't matter but just seems that way to me considering how great Josh Allen is
It was a rebuilding year for Ravens too. They lost 15 (FIFTEEN) guys to free agency. They lost 4 coaches to other teams (that left for advancement). That's a lot of changes. MORE COACHING CHANGES THAN ANY OTHER TEAM (that kept their head coach).
If Lamar wins a third MVP he will be one of seven players to do so. He will also be the only one of the seven without a championship if he never gets one eventually.
Peyton Manning won five MVPs but only two SBs, and Aaron Rodgers won four MVPs but only one SB. Lamar most likely will win his third, and people will not care about it, but that's okay! It's a good achievement.
Lamar isn't Peyton. Slap attack did a video exposing why comparing Lamar to Peyton is lazy and wrong. But you won't even look up the video because this is the narrative you use to cope.
Peyton lost to two legendary Patriots defenses, and the loss to Pittsburgh was also against a great defense. Peyton beat the Patriots defense the following year because Rodney Harrison was out. The Ravens were the better team this year, and they still lost to Buffalo. In the regular season, they lost to Cleveland and the Raiders, two disgusting teams. Lamar is a great talent; something will probably never see again. But those two turnovers that led to 10 points, and of course Mark Andrews cost the team. The Bills's defense (or KC last year) is nothing compared to the Patriots and Steelers defenses in the 2000s.
Dan Marino. Went to the Super Bowl in his 2nd year. One of the most gifted passers ever. I'm sure they said the same thing about him. Never got back to the Super Bowl :(
That's because of the Bills back then. Rn the chiefs are everyone's issue. Refs have a penchant for throwing flags to begging players. Chiefs beg. We need some change on this begging nonsense
To me, Lamar’s career is a success based off the fact that he was told he couldn’t play QB in the league and proved otherwise… that being said, man this playoff thing is hard to shake.. until he can have CONSISTENT playoff success, idk.. hope he gets one but ain’t no telling.. gotta rise to the occasion
Same with Allen, he didn't receive one D1 football scholarship out of high school. Allen had to go play at a Junior College and then got lucky someone offered him a D1 scholarship. No one thought he was good enough to play D1 football, let alone play in the NFL.
Personally I don't think he'll ever win one. It's always something in the post season. He's had great offenses, defenses, and it's never enough. I don't care about his age because people thought Dan Marino would go to more than one, people thought Aaron Rodgers would go to more than one, I'm just in the camp. He's not a playoff QB and it's always something. And that's okay
@alonzojones9626 and there's Rivers, McNabb, Marino, Palmer, Dalton, Newton, Ryan. Kelly, that are examples too. Is it always his fault, no, but I don't believe he'll ever win one. I could be wrong and I have no problem with being wrong, but I just don't feel it.
You're right. That's okay. This is the Mahomes era. I personally think Josh and Joe will also never get 1. Mahomes won't win them all but Eagles & a healthy 49ers will probably steal 1 or 2.
@getmoney3806 I get it, I just think that's a lazy take. Not a shot at you. It's just like if you're that guy and you're that good then you should beat him a time or two. Like if all we say "it's Mahomeboy era" what's the point in playing or even talking about the other teams because it's just a built in excuse
There’s absolutely no way you actually think the media would be destroying the golden boy mahomes. If they lose, everyone turns into Dan orlovsky finding anything but the qb to blame.
A dopey question. There are legit 10 guys every year who can win. It does not all come down to QB play. Bad defensive plays, missed FGs and xtra points, turnovers, special teams play, injuries and coaching decisions can affect the game more than the QBs play. That's the game. If Trent Dilfer can win a SB, I am confident Lamar has it in him. This is a stupid take.
Well, after 7 years Lamar hasn’t shown that he will get through those 3 guys in playoffs. He won against Tannehill, Stroud, Wilson when his defense held them up for 14 or less points. He is 0-5 when they give away more than 14 pts. He seems to take more pressure & crumble in playoffs against big matchups.
@@mryagami8448 who cares what RC says…that’s your oracle for information? If Josh wins MVP this year and doesn’t win the superbowl is his MVP hollow? Lamar has been hated on since he entered the league for no reason at all.
Lamar has been on a ravens team with less talent too stop acting like he has most stacked team of all time smh btw josh allen and the bills aren't world beaters they got a superstar QB a very solid defense and 1k yard rusher in cook so stop that bs
@@ladariusparker7248 Lamar almost had a 2k rusher and the Ravens defense was ranked top 3 in several key defensive stats during the second half of the season. Maybe you stop with the BS.
I'm starting to think that LaMar Jackson has the misfortune of playing in the Pat Mahomes' era. Mahomes has stopped other quarterbacks from getting a ring. Not just LaMar Jackson.
Ik mahomes is great but he literally lost to the bills twice, the titans once and the chargers once. In that one loss to mahomes, Lamar and the ravens offense scored only 10 points. So if we’re being honest, it has more to do with his poor playoff performances than it does with mahomes
I'm in Baltimore. I support the Ravens. 8 years, and it's the same result over and over. You all gush and praise Mr Regular season performer. But playoffs. Mr choker PERIOD. Spin it Deflect ,do all the justifying you want the reality is. Playoff choker year in and year out. We will never win a super bowl with Lamar. That's life.
The only reason we even make the playoffs every year is because of Lamar. If you switch QB's with our o-line and the way the defense was playing the first 10 games we wouldn't have been in the playoffs. If we switch the head coach we win the SB. If we switch the QB we don't make it to the playoffs.
He literally brought them back wym? Andrews fumbled which was going to be a scoring drive period and he drove down again and actually scored Buffalo wasn’t stopping Lamar that 2nd half which we saw in KC no?? U don’t get 3 TOs and barely win by 2pts without being concerned and worried going forward no? It’s not even debatable
I like Lamar but its going to be tough, not only do you have Patrick mahomes, josh Allen, and burrow. But also Justin Herbert, C. J. Stroud, and bo nix are only going to get better also.😢
And that’s what makes Mahomes so great. Despite all the talent in the afc, he’s the only one competing for super bowls. 3 rings and everyone else has none.
Unfortunately, niether Allen or the Bills as a team can say it's bc they were a top 2 conference team, but rather, they got there bc the Ravens kept defeating themselves. ...but hey, a win is a win, I guess.😕
@@FreddyLu53110. Weird take….. Beating the same team twice when it matters isn’t just a fluke like you’re trying to make it seem. The narrative that the ravens beat themselves is over played. They lost to a defense that outplayed their offense. 3 take aways does not happen by accident. Plus the Bills were literally the 2 seed, in the conference lol. So quite literally the 2nd best team in the conference
And the same amount of Super Bowl wins. If Josh Allen wins the AFC championship but never wins the Bowl he still has zero wins just like Jackson. Teams don't play to just have an outstanding playoff win record. That's an argument for losers that many of you keep making. It's similar to arguing over who has the better loss in a game. A loss is a loss. I wonder if Jim Kelly is bragging about his four straight Super Bowl appearances and four straight losses.
@@thewanderer6388 Another weird take and answer to a debate that is not discussing superbowls…. The word you’re looking for is Loss, not Lose big homie. Now, no-one is arguing that these two have played better than or accomplished the superbowl’s won by the chiefs and Mahomes. This is a discussion regarding Josh Allen vs Lamar Jackson. Which can be had without always bringing up the Chiefs success.
@@thewanderer6388 To further clarify. People can absolutely discuss individual QBs success, without having won a superbowl. Don’t get me wrong, that is / should be the ultimate goal for any competitor in the NFL. But that does not take away from individual success, stats and accomplishments….
"No one will care" and I totally agree ... I was so disappointed in Lamar and it's not inevitable that he gets to a Super Bowl. I believe that Joe Burrow is more likely to get to a Super Bowl before Lamar going forward and I truly believe that if Lamar didn't get it this year, it would be very very difficult for him to ever get to another AFC Championship, let alone a Super Bowl 💯
@@Kevinboy5457 I'm talking about ESPN and all the pundits Stephen A all those guys Stephen A talks about all different sports. Joker already won two, that was their reasoning well,, Lamar already won two
Because they're not a fan of immigrants. They even didn't talk too much about Giannis winning the in-season tournament this year, and they couldn't shut up about the Lakers winning it last year. They would've lost their minds if Doncic won the Finals. Also, there's a reason why they never talk about European football (soccer), despite it getting more attention globally compared to the NBA, baseball, hockey, etc... That's why I respect NBC and CBS for talking more about soccer, because it's way more entertaining
What he’s a legendary player? What do you think they were talking about when Peyton was winning MVPs but not winning any rings they were talking about about him just as much you guys gotta stop acting dumb.
Honestly I believe it’s more likely he never gets a Super Bowl. How many hall of fame players never even made it to a Super Bowl? He’s a great player and I hope he wins one for his own sake and because it’s more interesting than one team dominating the AFC for however long Mahomes is playing, but I don’t think it’s likely. This is coming from a Texans fan. I literally just want the AFC to have multiple teams representing the AFC instead of it just being the chiefs. Anyone but the chiefs at this point.
@@auburnmann3630 This running back also committed two turnovers for the first time all season in the Divisional round playoff game. The last time this running back committed two turnovers was in the AFCCG last year at home! Why does this running back always seem to turn the ball over when the stakes are the highest?
It’s not inevitable, Lamar Jackson is not gonna play as long as Brady. And he’s been in his prime for like 6-7 years at this point. Hasn’t even made a Super Bowl. Do I think he will win a Super Bowl. Yes. Is it inevitable.. no. Also the opportunity for him to win MULTIPLE superbowls is dwindling fast. But no matter what happens I still think he’s pretty much guaranteed hall of fame.
@@DanteGoldzlol allen is the better arm talent, passer, higher ig, more clutch, & read defenses better lol lamar is only better at running plz stop it goofy
Allen would have 2 mvps in any normal season if rodgers wasn't playing like the goat in 2021 and 2020, Lamar's fraud MVP is nowhere near those two seasons by Allen. Even last year wasn't close, Allen was far ahead if you add lamars fumbles and compare touchdowns. Media acts like lamar is so much better it’s so narrative forced and cringe, compare career stats and use the eye test and you will see allen is the superior player.
I like SAS answer on who it will be the bigger deal for. Because I feel the same way if Jayden wins the SB and beats either Mahomes or Allen that would be astronomical.
What’s crazy is, that before the season everyone was predicting the dolphins would run away with the afc east and the bills would be trash with no recieving core, defense or o line and that Allen was gonna struggle. He’s led arguably the best team in the afc to an afc championship and now it’s Lamar mvp? Why?
Mahomes > Allen > Burrow > Lamar. The real MVP won on Sunday and will look to finally take down the future GOAT. This is the "Brady vs. Manning" of this era
If Jayden Daniels goes on to win a SB as a rookie from an analogy perspective might as well call him the “Magic Johnson” of the NFL if you think about it.
Maybe but I think she’s right still. Jayden winning a superbowl is a bigger deal than Josh winning one because he’s doing it as a rookie. And you can say it’s bigger for the Bills franchise sure that’s fine but Jaden is on Washington so him winning means Washington winning therefor bigger for Washington than Buffalo. Buffalo is SUPPOSED to win a superbowl. Washington was supposed to maybe be .500 at best
I keep seeing all these videos about Lamar and buddy lost! He's done for the year! No one is talking about Josh Allen nearly as much as every body is talking about Lamar 🙄 He's definitely about to get the MVP. They just cant help themselves
Talk to Brees about being having to play a whole career with Brady. There was many of years where he was the better qb but couldn’t make it deep into playoffs or win more than 1 chip.
Man Lamar was the youngest to win 2 he’s still the youngest to win 3 MVPs. Stop trying to use history when there’s no history for his age. So what no Super Bowl yet. You still can’t take away from his greatness 3 first team all pros and 3 MVPs at 28. Man that’s insane knowing he’s probably gonna retire with more. There’s guys in the hall of fame with no rings and no MVPs as quarterbacks.
Lamar already has a first class trip to the HALL OF FAME. His bust will live forever, SB or not and all the haters in the world can't change that $#!+ one bit. So go ahead and talk about his playoff record or call him a RB if that gets you off. One day you will be forced to watch him get that award and recognition as having to be one of the best QUARTERBACKS to ever play in the NFL. That yellow jacket will live forever and hopefully your hate too every time you see his image.
Before every playoff game, the ravens flip a coin; heads, you play like the Ravens, tails, you bail on the offense that got you to the playoffs and ditch the run game that you win with. I will be shocked if they win a championship before Monken and Harbaugh leave.
You can win 10 MVPs if you don’t win a Super Bowl in my eyes it’s not a successful season when you were tired they’re not gonna talk about how many MVPs you won. It’s more about Super Bowl baby.
No they aren’t. Ppl forget SB winners all the time. All you need to do is be on the team that wins it. MVPs put you in the hall of fame. Ring culture has killed sports.
@ never heard them Talk about Marino in months they might bring him to say he was a top 5 at something but you ask any qb Super Bowl are more important than mvp
@@allseasonmaintenance908 Tom Brady wouldn’t be considered the goat without regular season accolades as well. You only naming 1 player too out of thousands of players that have played. SBs are team accomplishments.
If he wins another 5 MVP's and never wins a SB, so be it, Canton will still be waiting and you will still be hating every time he's introduced as a Hall Of Famer. You know, the QB who proved he could. And may your hate grow ever deeper every time his name is mentioned as one of the all time greats.
conditions were actually worse in Baltimore that Sunday. if you watched the philly game with the snow in the second half, that was the conditions in baltimore and bills would've done better in the snow.
@@rashiegarner491 he is right, last year was a fluke, the first one he had a loaded team and now allen deserves much more. Lamar is not only overrated but is also media's darling, i wonder why??
To be honest, this year he really deserves it. But last year he definitely did not deserve mvp. So I hope it goes to Josh Allen. You take Josh away from Buffalo they don’t make the playoffs. Take Lamar off the ravens and they’re still probably a wild card team.
Everything in life is a matter of perspective. Lamar Jackson pre draft wasn't even projected to be a good NFL qb. Instead he was advised to change positions to either rb or wr. They literally said the man couldn't throw. Several years later he is favored to win his 3rd MVP. Not bad for a running back right? He's already exceeded all expectations. But then the goal posts get moved, interestingly by those who haven't won anything. To say nobody cares about LJ winning a 3rd MVP is asinine, assi ten, assi 11 assi 12..... Real talk... These LJ haters can kick rocks.
Josh Allen hasnt gotten to a Super Bowl either, but your cats dont keep bringing that up. Every single one of you are hypocrites. Lamar is playing with house money. All of you didn't believe he could play quarterback, and now that he has proved you wrong, you want to hold him at a higher standard.
When the Ravens stop settling for less around Lamar because ‘We don’t need XYZ because we have Lamar’ and start saying, ‘Imagine if we gave Lamar XYZ’, they will win multiple titles. They took chances on the OL because they had Lamar. Did Peyton Manning have to turn into a RB to open up running lanes for Edgerrin James? No. So why, in year 7, does Lamar still have to turn into a RB to open up running lanes for Derrick Henry?
This is so dumb,Lamar has had a top 10 defense pretty much every year he's been there,and then they added Henry..stop this and just admit that jackson can't get it done In the big moments
@@pcd565 His best WR has been a second year Zay Flowers, HE has had to be the team’s leading rusher five of his six years as the full time starter, and even this year HE had to run the ball to help open running lanes for Henry.
@@Mike-f8u7fThey're just throwing out names that have no rings or started slow in the playoffs. Slap Attack did a great breakdown on why comparing Lamar to Peyton is lazy and wrong.
@@Mike-f8u7f I was saying extreme talent is no guarantee. Dan Marino was unquestionably the most talented QB in the time. Ask the OBs. And he never won one.
Racist at ESPN already setting up the "Lamar was robbed cuz hes black" narrative. Its funny how last year, Lamar didnt lead in a single QB stat and the QB who did lead in multiple stats was dismissed because Lamar had a better team record. Now that Lamar does lead in QB stats, suddenly Josh Allens team having a better record doesnt matter even though that was the argument racist used to justify giving the MVP to Lamar last year. Its so obvious how yall move.
I don't know why people keep forgetting that Josh had 18+ Interceptions last year. Mahomes had a down year from statistics standpoint and had a bad loss at the end of the season to the Raiders. Dak had probably the best QB numbers but lose every "big time" game and the media felt like he and Dallas beat up on bad teams. CMC was an outside chance because he was a RB. Purdy was the favorite at the end but losing to the Ravens with 4 interceptions in a blowout sunk his case in the medias eyes, with Lamar looking like the best player on the field. He followed it up with 5 TD's against a good Dolphins team. Lamar felt like the last one standing in the QB race. Lamar and ravens beat many of the top teams in the regular season and finished with the best record in the conference. Josh and the bills were only number 2 in the conference. If Josh had his 2024 season stats and team success in 2023, he clearly wins the MVP. Lamar had an historic year in many aspects. He had a top 5 passer rating of all time, 40+ TD's with fewer than 4 INT, 4000 passing and 900 rushing yards in the same season which had never been done. It's hard to argue a narrative season(Josh) over an historic season(Lamar). I think this is a year where things should be tied.
It's funny how a few years of perceived bias in favor of blacks people in sports and society at large have sent WHT men into a reverse racism rage. Y'all are still running the world in business, sports, etc. Maybe you now understand what BLK people have been going through for centuries in this land.
Younger me: "ah Cam is young, Peyton is retiring, I know he'll be back in the Super Bowl one day so him losing isn't crazy". Nothing is inevitable in the NFL so you have to seize every opportunity you get
Because Lamar has 3 MVPs and all of those guys have zero MVPs? Breaking news: the guy with multiple MVPs is held to higher standards than guys who don't have any MVPs!!!!
@@lwshamilton44They do get criticism. RC got exposed for his double standards when it comes to babying Lamar and going hard on Josh for a playoff loss. Meanwhile everyone in the media is coddling the 3x MVP, acting like it was all Andrews, when LaRB had two turnovers and a sack in the redzone.
Nobody thinks Herbert & Trevor are Elite QB's, Burrow has a 5-2 Playoff record, beat Mahomes in the playoffs in his house (only 2 QBs have done that), been to a super bowl but lost
I feel like you guys are new to football. Y’all do realize Peyton didn’t win a ring until his 9th year? Lamar’s gonna play football for like another 5 to 6 years. Even if he doesn’t win it next year doesn’t make him the weakest 3 time MVP. What is this trend with downplaying awards and players just because you don’t like them or because they don’t won a ring? why do y’all do that now? Like I don’t see nobody talking about Dan Marino like this Jim Kelly, Charles Barkley, John Stockton. Like we do know that Barry Sanders don’t have any rings and a lot of people have him regarded as the best at his position
@@dariusjohnson6013well for starters, many of the people you just listed either only had one mvp in their entire career and that was their peak year of individual play, or they didn’t win an mvp yet were regarded as some of the best at their position. Year after year we are hearing about how Lamar is either mvp, or possibly mvp. We move the goalposts CONSTANTLY for him, and we didn’t for any of the guys you listed. Mediocre stats + poor supporting cast + good record? MVP. Good stats + great supporting cast + lesser record? Still mvp. Why downplay the award? Because they keep changing the criteria to frame him as the front runner. Especially after last year, we’re all done with him being pushed as the clear mvp favorite.
as a ravens fan i’ve given up hope on winning a super bowl. these playoff off expectations never pan out. will just be pleasantly surprised now if they do anything more than beating up on a wildcard team in the first round
As a Bills fan hearing Stephen A's last comment like Ricky Bobby when he was in the wheel chair. "I hope that both of you have sons... Handsome, beautiful, articulate sons, who are talented and star athletes and they have their legs taken away. I mean I pray you know that pain and that hurt." And everyone in Buffalo and beyond was yelling "Don't you put that evil on me, Stephen A! Don't you put that on us! You are NOT paralyzed!
Poor guy captivates us for 17-weeks. Plays his heart out and puts on show-after-show. Thankfully, in line to receive recognition for the entertainment he gave us! ESPN: *Hate* Sad direction we’re heading in man 🥲
Nothing is inevitable but Lamar’s talent says that he’ll get 1 sooner or later barring a career ending injury! Brady and Mahomes have spoiled people into rushing and comparing players who have different paths to success! As tough as the conference is Lamar is still the best player and will continue to get better!
You all know his team lost right?? Some of it his fault, not all on Andrews espn... Yall dont wanna talk about josh? Hoping he loses so yall can talk about Mahomes..
Yes Harbaugh is a loser and would have nothing without Joe Flacco. I want a qb that can pass efficiently and deliver when it matters and Lamar never has been that. the worst mistake the Ravens franchise ever made was trading away Joe Flacco
The way Stephan walked off was pure comedy 😂😂
Was inevitable that Marino, Kelly, river, luck, etc would win a Super Bowl and none of them did. The ravens were healthy the last 2 years and came up well short of the SB. That’s problematic bc being as healthy as they were is very rare come playoff time
They lost in the AFC championship game last year.
Only one team can win the Super Bowl. Ravens expectations are super bowl and nothing less is a big ask
What irks me is BAL has to stop going out against the grain. They called 0 designed runs for LJ. Guys, that’s like having Shaq and keeping him on the perimeter all game. Or having Curry and telling him to bang the paint all day. Compare that to BUF who called 10 runs for JA and PHILLY who called 20+ zone/read options between JH and SB. You can’t keep going out like that. I fully expect them to make some changes to the coaching staff. You should never settle for 3 when you have 1st and goal from the 2 with DH and LJ.
Luck retired early due to injury. He shouldn’t be on this list. The man literally had a kidney laceration
TERRIBLE PLAYCALLING!
I'm not fully defending Lamar Jackson when it comes to the post season but when are we going to start having a little more conversation about John Harbuagh
Great point. Everybody bashing Lamar for the playoff failures but what about the head coach?
Here's why, he's an excellent head coach. Lol. Your only as good as the sum of your pieces. Ask Mike Tomlin about that. Coaches like Mike and John can make lesser teams over perform. The ravens are built as a run first team, if you are able to stop the RB and contain LJ we all see what happens. Happens every year, LJ isn't as good a passer as JA or Pat. LJ needs to be able to run, or have his RB run all over the defense opening up passing lanes. LJ is fkn amazing, he just has one flaw. A flaw that could be solved with top tier wide outs.
An at least Harbuagh, has 1 SUPERBOWL already.
@BestintheWorld247 the coach can't catch the ball nor can he throw or hold on to it.Thats why the players make the money they do .Having said that get a fast player over a smart one has consequences speed run out fast.The mind last a lot longer. 0 super bowls 7 super bowl u see.
@@jaydbakesHarbaugh isn’t an excellent coach.
The way SAS walked off had me weak
His argument is super weak though…… as much as we try to make it as QB vs QB in the NFl …ITS NOT …it sounds good though . …Brady didn’t lose to Nick foles because Foles was a better qb /out played him that day 😂😂😂😢😢…
He did out play him. Foles didn't fumble the ball at a key point of the game like Brady did.
@@Ultrabmw319 Brady had 400+ MEANINGFUL passing yards he actually set a new record … stop it bruh .
@@Xtcmxm stop what!! You said that like it mattered he fumbled in the 3rd quarter and the eagles had no turnovers. Wtf are you talking about we're talking about the super bowl game. He had 505 yards passing but that fumble is the reason they lost the game. You one of them dudes that brag you smashed a chick but she got nothing out of it. So did you win no you didn't. Shut up arguing like you made a real point. They lost so it don't matter
@@Ultrabmw319 you’re one of those dudes that hates on the “one guy” who gets all the chicks even though he “has nothing going for himself “ lol get a grip bruh . There’s no way that one “fumble “ cost the patriots the game
If josh Allen lost the game and had two turnovers we would never hear the end of it and what a failure he is lol
Doubt it!
They will say the window is still open and give him every excuse like they did last season .
Not really
That’s because Josh doesn’t have that year round tan.
So true! Such disrespect!
The bigger story would be if Jayden Daniels wins the Super Bowl. A rookie?! Playing for Washington no less?! That would be massive!
No rookie qb ever made to a superbowl as the starter for the entire season
He’d be GOATED immediately. With the best head start possible. Would be crazy history to witness. BUT nahh I need to witness my Bills win the 1st one. A rematch from 92’ Super Bowl would be dope.
@@timrichards8533 not true
@ how are you gonna say not true but then not back up your statement by saying who? What rookie qb made it to a superbowl ?
@ because i google the answer and it literally no rookie qb has ever made it to a superbowl so unless NFL is lying you are stupid
It's a rebuild year for Allen..but yea lamar and his pro bowlers even with a loss are still the greatest team ever...
It's pretty obvious what the NFL is going for here. They don't want to see a pretty boy white guy Josh Allen remind them of what Tom Brady did the league. They're all rooting for the dark skin quarterback. Trying to appeal to the Urban kids more. I don't agree with that assessment cuz I think it doesn't matter but just seems that way to me considering how great Josh Allen is
Stop
False narratives
It was a rebuilding year for Ravens too. They lost 15 (FIFTEEN) guys to free agency. They lost 4 coaches to other teams (that left for advancement). That's a lot of changes. MORE COACHING CHANGES THAN ANY OTHER TEAM (that kept their head coach).
If Lamar wins a third MVP he will be one of seven players to do so.
He will also be the only one of the seven without a championship if he never gets one eventually.
Peyton Manning won five MVPs but only two SBs, and Aaron Rodgers won four MVPs but only one SB. Lamar most likely will win his third, and people will not care about it, but that's okay! It's a good achievement.
Lamar isn't Peyton. Slap attack did a video exposing why comparing Lamar to Peyton is lazy and wrong. But you won't even look up the video because this is the narrative you use to cope.
Peyton knew how to throw
@@wisethabrain1100 Lamar can throw as well.
@@bonkcaesar9849 to the running back...sure
Peyton lost to two legendary Patriots defenses, and the loss to Pittsburgh was also against a great defense. Peyton beat the Patriots defense the following year because Rodney Harrison was out.
The Ravens were the better team this year, and they still lost to Buffalo. In the regular season, they lost to Cleveland and the Raiders, two disgusting teams. Lamar is a great talent; something will probably never see again. But those two turnovers that led to 10 points, and of course Mark Andrews cost the team. The Bills's defense (or KC last year) is nothing compared to the Patriots and Steelers defenses in the 2000s.
Dan Marino. Went to the Super Bowl in his 2nd year. One of the most gifted passers ever.
I'm sure they said the same thing about him. Never got back to the Super Bowl :(
That's because of the Bills back then. Rn the chiefs are everyone's issue. Refs have a penchant for throwing flags to begging players. Chiefs beg. We need some change on this begging nonsense
@@jaydbakesif you think it’s just the refs you know nothing of football.
To me, Lamar’s career is a success based off the fact that he was told he couldn’t play QB in the league and proved otherwise… that being said, man this playoff thing is hard to shake.. until he can have CONSISTENT playoff success, idk.. hope he gets one but ain’t no telling.. gotta rise to the occasion
Same with Allen, he didn't receive one D1 football scholarship out of high school. Allen had to go play at a Junior College and then got lucky someone offered him a D1 scholarship. No one thought he was good enough to play D1 football, let alone play in the NFL.
He would get one if he was in the NFC I promise you
Personally I don't think he'll ever win one. It's always something in the post season. He's had great offenses, defenses, and it's never enough. I don't care about his age because people thought Dan Marino would go to more than one, people thought Aaron Rodgers would go to more than one, I'm just in the camp. He's not a playoff QB and it's always something. And that's okay
Elway, Manning etc. There’s other QBs that disproves your point to say he can’t win a superbowl.
@alonzojones9626 and there's Rivers, McNabb, Marino, Palmer, Dalton, Newton, Ryan. Kelly, that are examples too. Is it always his fault, no, but I don't believe he'll ever win one. I could be wrong and I have no problem with being wrong, but I just don't feel it.
You're right. That's okay. This is the Mahomes era. I personally think Josh and Joe will also never get 1. Mahomes won't win them all but Eagles & a healthy 49ers will probably steal 1 or 2.
@getmoney3806 I get it, I just think that's a lazy take. Not a shot at you. It's just like if you're that guy and you're that good then you should beat him a time or two. Like if all we say "it's Mahomeboy era" what's the point in playing or even talking about the other teams because it's just a built in excuse
@sunchaser9898 i agree. They should beat Mahomes atleast once and get a superbowl. But like you i don't see it. Hopefully we are wrong.
Mahomes has stopped more QBs than just Lamar.
Facts
Nice when the refs are your ally
Quarterbacks don't line up against each other!
@@peterjohnson1734 FACTS!
Mahomes hasn't stopped anyone. Chiefs' defensive are the ones that have stopped the QBs.
Lamar is the James Harden of the NFL
African fellas 🚬🤦
Naw he's the Westbrook of the NFL 😅
James harden was never as good as Lamar
Ya Westbrook is actually a pretty good comparison!
jokic
Never have I seen a QB get so much media defense. If Allen or Mahomes played like he did the media would be destroying them.
There is a word for that.
Burrow as well. If the bengals lose this game they gon destroy burrow
Lmao context is key children!! You must not watch the same show that’s posted here daily
There’s absolutely no way you actually think the media would be destroying the golden boy mahomes. If they lose, everyone turns into Dan orlovsky finding anything but the qb to blame.
Lamar played bad ? We wouldn’t even have been in the game without him
A dopey question. There are legit 10 guys every year who can win. It does not all come down to QB play. Bad defensive plays, missed FGs and xtra points, turnovers, special teams play, injuries and coaching decisions can affect the game more than the QBs play. That's the game. If Trent Dilfer can win a SB, I am confident Lamar has it in him. This is a stupid take.
Thank you.
Well, after 7 years Lamar hasn’t shown that he will get through those 3 guys in playoffs. He won against Tannehill, Stroud, Wilson when his defense held them up for 14 or less points. He is 0-5 when they give away more than 14 pts. He seems to take more pressure & crumble in playoffs against big matchups.
@@mryagami8448 who is yall?
Josh is still living off that 13 sec game. Who was blasting him?
@@mryagami8448 who cares what RC says…that’s your oracle for information? If Josh wins MVP this year and doesn’t win the superbowl is his MVP hollow? Lamar has been hated on since he entered the league for no reason at all.
Lamar might win the MVP on a roster with 9 pro bowlers! I'll take Josh Allen all day on a roster on a rebuild season!
Lamar has been on a ravens team with less talent too stop acting like he has most stacked team of all time smh btw josh allen and the bills aren't world beaters they got a superstar QB a very solid defense and 1k yard rusher in cook so stop that bs
@@ladariusparker7248ravens are good every year,,what are u talking about, they have always been a threat for years...
@@schnarfschnarf5886Lamar never had a real Number 1 Wr
How u in a rebuild with an elite qb ? Like Josh , Lamar makes his teammates better..
@@ladariusparker7248 Lamar almost had a 2k rusher and the Ravens defense was ranked top 3 in several key defensive stats during the second half of the season. Maybe you stop with the BS.
I'm starting to think that LaMar Jackson has the misfortune of playing in the Pat Mahomes' era. Mahomes has stopped other quarterbacks from getting a ring. Not just LaMar Jackson.
Lamar is getting stoped by everyone else tho lol
Lamar has lost to Ryan Tannehill and just lost to Josh Allen and the Bills
@@lwshamilton44he lost to Derrick Henry Ryan ain’t do Shi them playoffs stop it
Ik mahomes is great but he literally lost to the bills twice, the titans once and the chargers once. In that one loss to mahomes, Lamar and the ravens offense scored only 10 points. So if we’re being honest, it has more to do with his poor playoff performances than it does with mahomes
qbs dont lose to qbs.
Why are we not talking about Jalen Hurts and Jayden Daniels?
Both
Hurts is overrated. Loaded team. Daniel's is special
Because both of them are still playing!
I'm in Baltimore. I support the Ravens. 8 years, and it's the same result over and over. You all gush and praise Mr Regular season performer. But playoffs. Mr choker PERIOD. Spin it Deflect ,do all the justifying you want the reality is. Playoff choker year in and year out. We will never win a super bowl with Lamar. That's life.
speak for yourself
@jamessnjenga I DID. I AM. DON'T CARE TO SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE. WEAK RESPONSE. U MUST BE ONE OF THOSE PROFESSIONAL VICTIMS. SMH
The only reason we even make the playoffs every year is because of Lamar. If you switch QB's with our o-line and the way the defense was playing the first 10 games we wouldn't have been in the playoffs. If we switch the head coach we win the SB. If we switch the QB we don't make it to the playoffs.
@@mrs.lovely8527so Lamar is immune from criticism because he made the playoffs? Just like 13 other quarterbacks
Excuse you.
Can we get Kimberly off the show ???
She has no clue. I fast forward when she speaks.
Man I was wondering if I was the only one.
Can’t wait till Kimberly Martin contract ends with first take
Why does Lamar get a pass for having 2 turnovers and losing?
@@JayyGoated2824 Dei
He literally brought them back wym? Andrews fumbled which was going to be a scoring drive period and he drove down again and actually scored Buffalo wasn’t stopping Lamar that 2nd half which we saw in KC no?? U don’t get 3 TOs and barely win by 2pts without being concerned and worried going forward no? It’s not even debatable
The Ravens just need to trust running in the playoffs. They switch what got them to the playoffs every time.
Ong bro like why go away from running the ball knowing that is yall super power … even w 400+ yards w a lost like wow
@ It brings back the pain of Seahawks not using Marshawn Lynch.
I like Lamar but its going to be tough, not only do you have Patrick mahomes, josh Allen, and burrow. But also Justin Herbert, C. J. Stroud, and bo nix are only going to get better also.😢
I know mun. The most murderous conference in sports today
Take Herbert off that list. He chokes in the playoffs even worse a lot worse than Lamar choke jackson
And that’s what makes Mahomes so great. Despite all the talent in the afc, he’s the only one competing for super bowls. 3 rings and everyone else has none.
I wish they could just let my Ravens rest in peace. Talk about something that's relevant which isn't us.
Lamar is the great black hope. Black Jesus
Yeah don't talk about the guy who's about to be a 3 time MVP because it hurts your feelings that he comes up short every year lol People are so soft
@@mattcarberry368it's funny how they didn't want Jokic to get a 3rd MVP but no talk about that with Lamar..funny
@mattcarberry368
You hard?
@@schnarfschnarf5886Amen. Bow down to Jesus boy
Allen has more afc title appearances than Lamar now
Unfortunately, niether Allen or the Bills as a team can say it's bc they were a top 2 conference team, but rather, they got there bc the Ravens kept defeating themselves.
...but hey, a win is a win, I guess.😕
@@FreddyLu53110. Weird take….. Beating the same team twice when it matters isn’t just a fluke like you’re trying to make it seem.
The narrative that the ravens beat themselves is over played. They lost to a defense that outplayed their offense. 3 take aways does not happen by accident. Plus the Bills were literally the 2 seed, in the conference lol. So quite literally the 2nd best team in the conference
And the same amount of Super Bowl wins. If Josh Allen wins the AFC championship but never wins the Bowl he still has zero wins just like Jackson. Teams don't play to just have an outstanding playoff win record. That's an argument for losers that many of you keep making. It's similar to arguing over who has the better loss in a game. A loss is a loss. I wonder if Jim Kelly is bragging about his four straight Super Bowl appearances and four straight losses.
@@thewanderer6388 Another weird take and answer to a debate that is not discussing superbowls…. The word you’re looking for is Loss, not Lose big homie. Now, no-one is arguing that these two have played better than or accomplished the superbowl’s won by the chiefs and Mahomes. This is a discussion regarding Josh Allen vs Lamar Jackson. Which can be had without always bringing up the Chiefs success.
@@thewanderer6388 To further clarify. People can absolutely discuss individual QBs success, without having won a superbowl. Don’t get me wrong, that is / should be the ultimate goal for any competitor in the NFL. But that does not take away from individual success, stats and accomplishments….
"No one will care" and I totally agree ... I was so disappointed in Lamar and it's not inevitable that he gets to a Super Bowl. I believe that Joe Burrow is more likely to get to a Super Bowl before Lamar going forward and I truly believe that if Lamar didn't get it this year, it would be very very difficult for him to ever get to another AFC Championship, let alone a Super Bowl 💯
Joe Burrow has to beat the ravens led by Lamar to get there first. Cincy hasn’t beaten Lamar since ‘21.
Ask Dan Marino if it was inevitable he’d get a championship
Why did espn push against Jokic winning another mvp(because he already won 2)but they are all for Lamar winning another mvp
I'd love to get an answer on this one
It's different sports and voting
@@Kevinboy5457 I'm talking about ESPN and all the pundits Stephen A all those guys Stephen A talks about all different sports. Joker already won two, that was their reasoning well,, Lamar already won two
Because they can Not Accept that a Not US Citizen is the best Player in the nba 😂😂
Because they're not a fan of immigrants. They even didn't talk too much about Giannis winning the in-season tournament this year, and they couldn't shut up about the Lakers winning it last year. They would've lost their minds if Doncic won the Finals.
Also, there's a reason why they never talk about European football (soccer), despite it getting more attention globally compared to the NBA, baseball, hockey, etc... That's why I respect NBC and CBS for talking more about soccer, because it's way more entertaining
The season is over for the Raven and you still talking about it lord do your rating go up talking about Lamar
What he’s a legendary player? What do you think they were talking about when Peyton was winning MVPs but not winning any rings they were talking about about him just as much you guys gotta stop acting dumb.
If the African choker was white y'all be throwing him under the bus 🚬🤨
You're really this soft, huh?
lol they talked about the bengals and the bills losing for literal years afterwards, guess that was for ratings too😂
No they wouldn't stop that lie
Honestly I believe it’s more likely he never gets a Super Bowl. How many hall of fame players never even made it to a Super Bowl? He’s a great player and I hope he wins one for his own sake and because it’s more interesting than one team dominating the AFC for however long Mahomes is playing, but I don’t think it’s likely. This is coming from a Texans fan. I literally just want the AFC to have multiple teams representing the AFC instead of it just being the chiefs. Anyone but the chiefs at this point.
Doggy is right, ravens lost a lot of games this season (tough schedule) but man the SEEDING in the AFC is just too crucial
Can’t spell Lamar without L
Lamarunning back
This running back had less rushing TDs than Josiah Allen, and more passing yards/TDs also.
@@auburnmann3630 This running back also committed two turnovers for the first time all season in the Divisional round playoff game. The last time this running back committed two turnovers was in the AFCCG last year at home! Why does this running back always seem to turn the ball over when the stakes are the highest?
@@lwshamilton44get off his meat u sittin at home talkin bout him lmao
This Lamar first year throwing for 4000 yards 😂😂
It’s not inevitable, Lamar Jackson is not gonna play as long as Brady. And he’s been in his prime for like 6-7 years at this point. Hasn’t even made a Super Bowl.
Do I think he will win a Super Bowl. Yes. Is it inevitable.. no.
Also the opportunity for him to win MULTIPLE superbowls is dwindling fast.
But no matter what happens I still think he’s pretty much guaranteed hall of fame.
Last I checked Josh Allen never won a super bowl yet
Last I checked neither has Lamar 😂😂😂😂
And?
@@joerysz4197Lamar still better
allen has no mvps, lamar has 2. Lamar should receive more criticism therefore. Where is that??? Imagine if the roles were reversed ...
@@DanteGoldzlol allen is the better arm talent, passer, higher ig, more clutch, & read defenses better lol lamar is only better at running plz stop it goofy
Allen would have 2 mvps in any normal season if rodgers wasn't playing like the goat in 2021 and 2020, Lamar's fraud MVP is nowhere near those two seasons by Allen. Even last year wasn't close, Allen was far ahead if you add lamars fumbles and compare touchdowns. Media acts like lamar is so much better it’s so narrative forced and cringe, compare career stats and use the eye test and you will see allen is the superior player.
By far better
Cry
@@elev8lounge44lies
I like SAS answer on who it will be the bigger deal for. Because I feel the same way if Jayden wins the SB and beats either Mahomes or Allen that would be astronomical.
AFC CHAMPIONSHIP IS THIS WEEK!!! Lamar is the new Lebron
LeBron got ring & fainls appearances 😂😂😂
What’s crazy is, that before the season everyone was predicting the dolphins would run away with the afc east and the bills would be trash with no recieving core, defense or o line and that Allen was gonna struggle. He’s led arguably the best team in the afc to an afc championship and now it’s Lamar mvp? Why?
Mahomes > Allen > Burrow > Lamar. The real MVP won on Sunday and will look to finally take down the future GOAT. This is the "Brady vs. Manning" of this era
😂😂
There is no Brady v Manning in this era it’s Mahomes v Everyone else 😂
You racist. Lamar is better than everyone besides Mahomes bruh
Lamar is mvp, we are talking about the regular season buddy lol
@@DanteGoldz I’m racist? Mahomes is white?? Lamar is a choker
If Jayden Daniels goes on to win a SB as a rookie from an analogy perspective might as well call him the “Magic Johnson” of the NFL if you think about it.
Her saying the Commanders is simply based on him being BLACK
STOP IT!
Maybe but I think she’s right still. Jayden winning a superbowl is a bigger deal than Josh winning one because he’s doing it as a rookie. And you can say it’s bigger for the Bills franchise sure that’s fine but Jaden is on Washington so him winning means Washington winning therefor bigger for Washington than Buffalo. Buffalo is SUPPOSED to win a superbowl. Washington was supposed to maybe be .500 at best
They'll be drawing more plays up for Likely too. He's been good since a rookie.
I keep seeing all these videos about Lamar and buddy lost! He's done for the year! No one is talking about Josh Allen nearly as much as every body is talking about Lamar 🙄 He's definitely about to get the MVP. They just cant help themselves
Talk to Brees about being having to play a whole career with Brady. There was many of years where he was the better qb but couldn’t make it deep into playoffs or win more than 1 chip.
Man Lamar was the youngest to win 2 he’s still the youngest to win 3 MVPs. Stop trying to use history when there’s no history for his age. So what no Super Bowl yet. You still can’t take away from his greatness 3 first team all pros and 3 MVPs at 28. Man that’s insane knowing he’s probably gonna retire with more. There’s guys in the hall of fame with no rings and no MVPs as quarterbacks.
Yeah nobody below the age of 35 but Mahomes has won the SB
Lamar already has a first class trip to the HALL OF FAME. His bust will live forever, SB or not and all the haters in the world can't change that $#!+ one bit. So go ahead and talk about his playoff record or call him a RB if that gets you off. One day you will be forced to watch him get that award and recognition as having to be one of the best QUARTERBACKS to ever play in the NFL. That yellow jacket will live forever and hopefully your hate too every time you see his image.
Stephen A saying it would be a bigger deal if the bills went to the superbowl and lost i mean he’s not wrong but he didn’t have to say that 🤣
Why is everyone pushing Lamar so hard the last 2 years? :/
because he has multiple mvp’s
@ the same people that cover the league are the same ones that vote for mvp.
Great drive on prevent defense 😂😢. And in snow where offense has slight edge. Come on, Mad Dog
Lamar is the LeBron of the NFL
Josh is the Dirk
Patrick is Tim Duncan
Definitely not.
Before every playoff game, the ravens flip a coin; heads, you play like the Ravens, tails, you bail on the offense that got you to the playoffs and ditch the run game that you win with. I will be shocked if they win a championship before Monken and Harbaugh leave.
You can win 10 MVPs if you don’t win a Super Bowl in my eyes it’s not a successful season when you were tired they’re not gonna talk about how many MVPs you won. It’s more about Super Bowl baby.
They still talk about Marino and he hasn't won one
No they aren’t. Ppl forget SB winners all the time. All you need to do is be on the team that wins it. MVPs put you in the hall of fame. Ring culture has killed sports.
@ never heard them
Talk about Marino in months they might bring him to say he was a top 5 at something but you ask any qb Super Bowl are more important than mvp
@@Finnissee0122 Tom Brady wouldn’t be considered the goat with 7 mvp…. He’s the goat because of superbowls that’s your answer on what’s more important
@@allseasonmaintenance908 Tom Brady wouldn’t be considered the goat without regular season accolades as well. You only naming 1 player too out of thousands of players that have played. SBs are team accomplishments.
As a ravens fan, I agree with everything they all said 💯
I love it. Bumson Jackson 😂
Smoking on yo ded granny and jb pack hoe
Bumson?? Bruh smh
joe burrow didn’t even make the playoffs dude 😂
@ U could never compare the two bro. Lamar lost the game for the Ravens, Burrow carried the Bengals all season.
@@estaj9252 totally agree Burrow, Allen and Mahomes are all better than Lamar. At best Lamar is the 4th best qb in the AFC
Mahomes, Stafford and Brady have won the most recent bowls 😂 every other QB sucks compared to them 🤷🏿♂️ that’s the logic that we’re going with
Let Lamar win another 5 MVPs... he will never win a Super Bowl
Neither him nor any other QBs in this generation, if Mahomes stays around
@@auburnmann3630Borrow got there. Aka beat Mahomes
ESPN will help all they can with that...
If he wins another 5 MVP's and never wins a SB, so be it, Canton will still be waiting and you will still be hating every time he's introduced as a Hall Of Famer. You know, the QB who proved he could. And may your hate grow ever deeper every time his name is mentioned as one of the all time greats.
@@elev8lounge444 years ago bro let it go
conditions were actually worse in Baltimore that Sunday. if you watched the philly game with the snow in the second half, that was the conditions in baltimore and bills would've done better in the snow.
People cry about black coaches not getting a “fair shot”
But over look how Lamar gets undeserved MVPs
bro this is a terrible take
You might be retarded
@ I’m not wrong
@@rashiegarner491 he is right, last year was a fluke, the first one he had a loaded team and now allen deserves much more. Lamar is not only overrated but is also media's darling, i wonder why??
To be honest, this year he really deserves it. But last year he definitely did not deserve mvp. So I hope it goes to Josh Allen. You take Josh away from Buffalo they don’t make the playoffs. Take Lamar off the ravens and they’re still probably a wild card team.
Shady is the worst sport analyst in tv!
Kobe only had one mvp always focused on playoffs more than season because jobs not finished
Everything in life is a matter of perspective. Lamar Jackson pre draft wasn't even projected to be a good NFL qb. Instead he was advised to change positions to either rb or wr. They literally said the man couldn't throw. Several years later he is favored to win his 3rd MVP. Not bad for a running back right? He's already exceeded all expectations. But then the goal posts get moved, interestingly by those who haven't won anything. To say nobody cares about LJ winning a 3rd MVP is asinine, assi ten, assi 11 assi 12..... Real talk... These LJ haters can kick rocks.
I Just Love Looking at Kimberly🤫
Stop lying.
I think Molly looks better she just annoying
Ryan Clark is on video saying that if Lamar doesn’t win a superbowl he’ll leave espn , I can’t call it
She should leave his racist mouth closed if anything
Josh Allen hasnt gotten to a Super Bowl either, but your cats dont keep bringing that up. Every single one of you are hypocrites. Lamar is playing with house money. All of you didn't believe he could play quarterback, and now that he has proved you wrong, you want to hold him at a higher standard.
Nope but the supposed most overrated player has made a title game with a sub par coach twice...like burrow
Im not going to say it again.! Please tell this guys this is as far as the bills go.!.! Period .!,!
When the Ravens stop settling for less around Lamar because ‘We don’t need XYZ because we have Lamar’ and start saying, ‘Imagine if we gave Lamar XYZ’, they will win multiple titles. They took chances on the OL because they had Lamar. Did Peyton Manning have to turn into a RB to open up running lanes for Edgerrin James? No. So why, in year 7, does Lamar still have to turn into a RB to open up running lanes for Derrick Henry?
Lamar has always had xyz what are you talking about😂
They should’ve tried harder to get Devante Adams
This is so dumb,Lamar has had a top 10 defense pretty much every year he's been there,and then they added Henry..stop this and just admit that jackson can't get it done In the big moments
@ Agreed. His presence would’ve not only helped the passing game, but made it impossible to stack the box against Henry.
@@pcd565 His best WR has been a second year Zay Flowers, HE has had to be the team’s leading rusher five of his six years as the full time starter, and even this year HE had to run the ball to help open running lanes for Henry.
Refs protect Mahomes in the playoffs like ESPN protects Lamar for the MVP.
Dan Marino would beg to differ
So would Cam their fellow analysts!
Dan Marino only started 11 games his rookie season..Dan Marino lost in the SB to San Francisco in his Second Year
@@Mike-f8u7fThey're just throwing out names that have no rings or started slow in the playoffs. Slap Attack did a great breakdown on why comparing Lamar to Peyton is lazy and wrong.
@@DaausbyCam’s rookie season:4051 yds passing,21tds pass,17 ints,713rush,14 rush tds,& 6-10 record…JD5’s rookie year:3568 pass,25tds,9ints,891yds rush,6tds rush,& 12-5 record..JD5 has the higher rookie yr. passer rating & higher rookie yr. QBR
@@Mike-f8u7f I was saying extreme talent is no guarantee. Dan Marino was unquestionably the most talented QB in the time. Ask the OBs. And he never won one.
I agree with Mad dog I’m not watching the Super Bowl if it’s the eagles and chiefs. Haven’t watched the Super Bowl in 5 years
Racist at ESPN already setting up the "Lamar was robbed cuz hes black" narrative. Its funny how last year, Lamar didnt lead in a single QB stat and the QB who did lead in multiple stats was dismissed because Lamar had a better team record. Now that Lamar does lead in QB stats, suddenly Josh Allens team having a better record doesnt matter even though that was the argument racist used to justify giving the MVP to Lamar last year. Its so obvious how yall move.
I don't know why people keep forgetting that Josh had 18+ Interceptions last year. Mahomes had a down year from statistics standpoint and had a bad loss at the end of the season to the Raiders. Dak had probably the best QB numbers but lose every "big time" game and the media felt like he and Dallas beat up on bad teams. CMC was an outside chance because he was a RB. Purdy was the favorite at the end but losing to the Ravens with 4 interceptions in a blowout sunk his case in the medias eyes, with Lamar looking like the best player on the field. He followed it up with 5 TD's against a good Dolphins team. Lamar felt like the last one standing in the QB race. Lamar and ravens beat many of the top teams in the regular season and finished with the best record in the conference. Josh and the bills were only number 2 in the conference.
If Josh had his 2024 season stats and team success in 2023, he clearly wins the MVP. Lamar had an historic year in many aspects. He had a top 5 passer rating of all time, 40+ TD's with fewer than 4 INT, 4000 passing and 900 rushing yards in the same season which had never been done. It's hard to argue a narrative season(Josh) over an historic season(Lamar). I think this is a year where things should be tied.
It's funny how a few years of perceived bias in favor of blacks people in sports and society at large have sent WHT men into a reverse racism rage. Y'all are still running the world in business, sports, etc. Maybe you now understand what BLK people have been going through for centuries in this land.
This is what schizophrenia looks like
Younger me: "ah Cam is young, Peyton is retiring, I know he'll be back in the Super Bowl one day so him losing isn't crazy". Nothing is inevitable in the NFL so you have to seize every opportunity you get
Its funny how Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence does not get as much criticism as Lamar Jackson smh.. i wonder why ?
Because Lamar has 3 MVPs and all of those guys have zero MVPs? Breaking news: the guy with multiple MVPs is held to higher standards than guys who don't have any MVPs!!!!
@@lwshamilton44They do get criticism. RC got exposed for his double standards when it comes to babying Lamar and going hard on Josh for a playoff loss. Meanwhile everyone in the media is coddling the 3x MVP, acting like it was all Andrews, when LaRB had two turnovers and a sack in the redzone.
There not a 3x mvp you idiot 😂😂😂
Nobody thinks Herbert & Trevor are Elite QB's,
Burrow has a 5-2 Playoff record, beat Mahomes in the playoffs in his house (only 2 QBs have done that), been to a super bowl but lost
@@cenanation123456 The key is that Burrow went to a SB and lost. Zero SB wins just like Allen and Jackson. Participation trophies don't count.
Saquon should be MVP. He’s gonna make SB while Jackson and Josh Allen are sitting at home.
Sdfu eagles not goin to no SB
The only time I agree with Kimberly. Also, if Lamar wins MVP again then he’s going to be the weakest 3x MVP in NFL history.
The white wizard should be the MVP he treated the African choker like he broke eggs when it counted in the playoffs 🚬🤨
I feel like you guys are new to football. Y’all do realize Peyton didn’t win a ring until his 9th year? Lamar’s gonna play football for like another 5 to 6 years. Even if he doesn’t win it next year doesn’t make him the weakest 3 time MVP.
What is this trend with downplaying awards and players just because you don’t like them or because they don’t won a ring? why do y’all do that now?
Like I don’t see nobody talking about Dan Marino like this Jim Kelly, Charles Barkley, John Stockton. Like we do know that Barry Sanders don’t have any rings and a lot of people have him regarded as the best at his position
Weakest 3x mvp? Man isn’t even 30 yet, yall acting like his career ended this season
@ you live a sad and miserable life
@@dariusjohnson6013well for starters, many of the people you just listed either only had one mvp in their entire career and that was their peak year of individual play, or they didn’t win an mvp yet were regarded as some of the best at their position. Year after year we are hearing about how Lamar is either mvp, or possibly mvp. We move the goalposts CONSTANTLY for him, and we didn’t for any of the guys you listed. Mediocre stats + poor supporting cast + good record? MVP. Good stats + great supporting cast + lesser record? Still mvp. Why downplay the award? Because they keep changing the criteria to frame him as the front runner. Especially after last year, we’re all done with him being pushed as the clear mvp favorite.
He always has time to celebrate his MVP because he will always win it during his offseason.
Lamar is the peyton manning of this era. It will happen soon.
Yeah right. Don’t disrespect Manning like that. He’s clutch in big moments. Lamar folds.
@teesolomon he aint clutch up in his early years
dont disrespect manning like that lmao
@@Henrique-wy6cv sadly manning is similar to lamar in the early stages of there career either u like it or not
as a ravens fan i’ve given up hope on winning a super bowl. these playoff off expectations never pan out. will just be pleasantly surprised now if they do anything more than beating up on a wildcard team in the first round
How is nobody mentioning that Zay Flowers didn’t play in this postseason????
Do you really need Zay to keep up with a Bills team that has no true #1 WR of their own?
As a Bills fan hearing Stephen A's last comment like Ricky Bobby when he was in the wheel chair. "I hope that both of you have sons... Handsome, beautiful, articulate sons, who are talented and star athletes and they have their legs taken away. I mean I pray you know that pain and that hurt."
And everyone in Buffalo and beyond was yelling "Don't you put that evil on me, Stephen A! Don't you put that on us! You are NOT paralyzed!
4:30 😂😂😂 boy stop we love Lamar and I’m not a ravens fan
Nobody cares
Poor guy captivates us for 17-weeks. Plays his heart out and puts on show-after-show. Thankfully, in line to receive recognition for the entertainment he gave us!
ESPN: *Hate*
Sad direction we’re heading in man 🥲
I think Lamar will have more regular season MVP s than Super bowl appearance and trophies
Who cares?? Should be talking more bout the BUFFALO BILLS!! He’s out and gone! Talk bout the playoffs
Love Stephan A I was thinking same thing with the Bills I want them to beat chiefs then lose in the Super Bowl to the rookie QB 😂
There’s a difference here: it’s inevitable that he’ll get a bowl but it’s not inevitable for him to get it with the ravens
Lamar should go to the NFC fr I believe if he was in the nfc he would be in the Super Bowl
As much as I wanna see Lamar win a ring as a Ravens fan all he does is choke in big games man
Nothing is inevitable but Lamar’s talent says that he’ll get 1 sooner or later barring a career ending injury! Brady and Mahomes have spoiled people into rushing and comparing players who have different paths to success! As tough as the conference is Lamar is still the best player and will continue to get better!
Lamar only needs one (SB) and a third year of Monkens offense will help. They both will be better for it.
Meanwhile I’m over here wet dreaming about Molly, Kimberly, Mina, & Joy Taylor😂😂
Ravens are out...its time for yall to focus on the 4 teams standing.
Lamar Jackson derangement. Can't have a broadcast without him.
Lamar has played 4 full seasons and won MVP 3/4 times and led his team to the #1 seed twice
You all know his team lost right?? Some of it his fault, not all on Andrews espn... Yall dont wanna talk about josh? Hoping he loses so yall can talk about Mahomes..
SaS really loves to disrespect Philly losing to jalen hurts is an insult .
This is why ESPN is going down the toilet.
That would be insane that team would forever be cursed
6:50 There is NOTHING that is a bigger deal than the Bills winning a Super Bowl
Other than, I'll concede, the Lions winning a Super Bowl.
They would’ve been saying the same thing about Dan Marino.
Joe flacco > Lamar is wild
Yes Harbaugh is a loser and would have nothing without Joe Flacco. I want a qb that can pass efficiently and deliver when it matters and Lamar never has been that. the worst mistake the Ravens franchise ever made was trading away Joe Flacco
How long it took manning ?
The pressure for Lamar to win a Super Bowl is finally starting to manifest. He's officially left the just make the AFC Championship zone.
I want Bills vs. Commnaders SB. Bills deserve it more but I would rather see the Commanders win.
Every year its a same talk😂